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BSD Staff Predictions: Indiana

 

Mike Says...

I must admit I was more concerned with getting my basketball previews together than I was with researching and previewing Indiana. But I have watched a few Hoosier games this year, and though there's temptation to write this game off, there is plenty to worry about.

Indiana's wide receivers Tandon Doss and Demarlo Belcher scare the crap out of me. They were absolute freaks against Iowa, and both guys rank in the top ten in the conference in receiving yards. They're tall, and I can already see them giving our corners and safeties a tough time.

I've also noticed the Hoosiers are a team that starts fast and jumps out to a quick lead. By contrast, Penn State is a team that starts slow and takes a quarter or two to really get going. So there's potential here for this one to look pretty scary in the early going.

But thankfully, they're Indiana, and eventually their Hoosierness catches up to them. This is a team that blew a late fourth quarter lead against Michigan. They blew a 25 point lead against Northwestern. And of course we're all familiar with how a 14 point lead against Iowa turned into an 18 point loss for them.

It's been a long time since we've seen Penn State have to fight back in a furious comeback effort. I'm going to say this is that week. Look for Indiana to strike quick and jump out to a 10 or 14 point lead as the Penn State offense bumbles and stumbles all over itself. About midway through the second quarter I'll predict Indiana gets a favorable call from the officials, and for a moment it will look like the entire season is lost. Say goodbye to the casual Penn State fan as they get up and start to leave the stadium. But the bad call will spark the Nittany Lions to life. The seniors will realize they don't want to go out like this. The defense will get angry. Daryll Clark and the offense will get focused. And we'll see a furious Penn State comeback in the second half to overcome a double digit deficit. I'll make a crazy prediction and say we'll be watching this game on the Big Ten Network as one of their Big Ten's Greatest Games series ten years from now.

Penn State 27, Indiana 24

Star-divide

RUTS Says...

What adjective do you assign a team who is 1-5 in the conference but was absolutely in every one of those games, other than a clinical beating by the likely conference champion? What's the backhanded compliment for this? Frisky?

Things that scare me about Indiana -- They protect their quarterback and Penn State's defensive ends were practically invisible last week against a suspect Ohio State offensive line. Ben Chappell is capable of occasional flashes of greatness. They're totally due for a big win. Penn State sleepwalked against them for 30 minutes last year after the Iowa game, and that was a Penn State team with a Rose Bowl bid still on the line. Tandon Doss.

Things that don't scare me no sir not a little bit -- Well, Indiana's defense really sucks. Super awesome kick returner Ray Fisher just had knee surgery. Their kicker appears to be the functional equivalent of Collin Wagner (okay from short range, nothing special). Lost by 40 points to Al Groh. Can't run the ball worth a damn. They're Indiana.

Vegas has this as a 25 point game. Twenty-five points! This one gets puckerish when Penn State and a dull crowd can't catch a fire early.

Penn State 34, Indiana 20

Kevin Says...

Against my better judgment I started defending the Vegas line for this game - it's hated by Indiana fans, Penn State fans, and just about everyone else who's watched football the season - but they don't exactly throw darts to come up with this stuff.

I was all ready to predict more of the same crap we saw in last year's Indiana game. A slow start after last week's loss seems likely, as does mediocre offense, and of course that "hey let's put 14 guys in the box against Penn State and see what happens" defense. Our response to that defense against inferior teams has usually been ignorance and 1.8 ypc in the first half.

But screw it. Penn State has a horrible line, and Ohio State and Iowa are probably the #1 and #2 worst teams to have to play against because of that. Indiana is not #3 on that list. They rank 9th in the league in sacks, dead last in passing percentage allowed (64.6) and 106th nationally in quarterback rating allowed (146.4!). Part of that might be on the secondary, but it starts up front.

People bring up Indiana's near misses against Michigan, Northwestern and Wisconsin, but Penn State is built a lot more like Ohio State and Iowa. When time expired, both of those teams had beaten Indiana badly. (Sure that Iowa game was insane, but the Hawkeyes outgained the Hoosiers by 180 yards and had 8 more first downs.)

Point is: we're set up to cover. So why not?

Penn State 45, Indiana 17

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the line is 25 points and indiana is having one of those rare seasons

where they are covering the spread more so than not. 6-3 this year. in the last 12 years though they are the worst covering team in fbs or division 1-a in those years.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 13, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

Mike, you're too specific

Specific predictions never win.

Penn State – 24
Indiana – 21

Game winning field goal!

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

I for one liked the specificity

Thought it was fun. Especially the officials call that rallies the fans and the team and results in a B10 network classic replay.

/end brownnose

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Suck it, jtot from Washington

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Specific predictions are the best

If you’re right, you look like a genius. If you’re wrong? Who cares? No one really expected it to happen, and you can just play along like you didn’t really expect it either.

by PSUisMyHeart on Nov 13, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going with tradition

Indiana doesn’t move it at all, Penn State is adequate to good on offense. One non-offensive score:

PSU 35
IU 10

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2009 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

What are you talking about?

I remember seeing #2 catch that bomb on the first play of the Iowa game.

by BSD on Nov 13, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Who are you here?

Junny? Jtot? Jesse.?

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Rambler?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Get Mike to check the IP

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I can confirm

It’s not Rambler. But I do know who it is.

by BSD on Nov 13, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Fugi!

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Ruts!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Bzzt.

I looked at who it is, too.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 13, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

And I'm *still* waiting

For the username “GODS GIFT” to show up.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 13, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice

written manifestation of the annoying buzzer sound.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No

I really think it’s jesse.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It's Max McGee!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

It's Tim Curley!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

It's Sports4me!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

It's

Brian from MGoBlog!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

It's

!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

It's

birdman jaypafiringfounder!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

It's

Dawson’s sister with swine flu!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

It's

JNitt’s ex-girlfriend!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

It's

Baconway’s Mr. T Rapist!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It's

Big Time Alumnus!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It's Laura Nichols.

"The only cohesive passing game in the whole damn conference was in Happy Valley." -Rivalry Esq.

by BSmith717 on Nov 13, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome

i’m so mad I didn’t think of this first.

BSD

by KevinHD on Nov 13, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If it was me, it would have been "Casual Iowa Fan"

So it wasn’t me.

I think it’s jesse.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

Although I considered taking credit for it.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 13, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Kinda sounds like you...

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome

No. 2—You are so lucky he barely fumbled the ball PSU fans.

by psu on Nov 13, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Me thinks

Someone just outed themselves.

by BSD on Nov 13, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Or got drunk and watched It's Always Sunny last night!

I could definitely think of a few fanposts this guy could do.

by gumbercules on Nov 13, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me borrow his password

I can make magic happen.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

On second thought, no

No. I’m better pretending to be an Iowa fan.

“pretending”.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

time for an intervention

"He's a beast. But so am I. So let the beasting begin."

by PSUtopia on Nov 13, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.

by psu on Nov 13, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

that actually doesn't work

Sen in Dee

A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
Bill Cosby

by psu on Nov 13, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Derrick Williams is struggling this year

because he lost some of his supporting cast, the graduation of Curt Warner and Zack Mills has really affected the team.

by Joe 96alum on Nov 13, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We're really missing Sean Farrell and Glenn Ressler this year

Also, Collin Wagner has been a weak replacement for Chris Bahr. We need to give Alberto Vitiello a chance.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m old if I was at the school with at least one of those guys, right?

by Pentimental on Nov 13, 2009 4:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

As noted - Dull crowd prediction

If you look on the Nittany Lions ticket exchange (what I successfully used to score some good seats last minute to last week’s game) – you can pretty much get awesome seats at the 50 yard line for not much more than face value.

http://teamexchange.ticketmaster.com/html/eventlist.htmI?l=EN&team=pennstate

I don’t think there’s too much enthusiasm for this game, but hopefully a good performance will get everyone in a better mood.

by mundyscorner99 on Nov 13, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

Indiana 10
PSU 31

A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.

by psu on Nov 13, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

I'm with Kevin on his one

Though I was thinking 45-10. Despite the two big losses, this team isn’t going to lose a game they should win (unlike some 8-2 teams that immediately come to mind).

I can’t argue with the other predictions . . . I can see those as possibilities, particularly when you look at history.

I just think that as far as this goes:

But the bad call will spark the Nittany Lions to life

My feeling is that last week gave them all the “spark” they’re going to need this week.

Plus it’s Senior Day.

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Nov 13, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

that is

where “spark” = “embarrassing loss that they want to take out on someone else”

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Nov 13, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The eighth home game

in 11 weeks. Against Indiana.

PSU 64
IU 60

Battle drops in 28 pts and …

by Joe 96alum on Nov 13, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

Hmmm

Anyone want to take side bets?

Who scores more this weekend, PSU Football or Talor Battle?

More defensive touchdowns or SW’OTTs?

Bigger margin of victory?

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Nov 13, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

ooh

the PSU football vs Talor Battle could be an interesting bet

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 13, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Greater....

PSU score or post game complaints on BSD about the special teams?

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 13, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Lifeless Game...

that picks up in the 2nd half.
PSU 35
IU 24

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 13, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

Do I have to be the one picking the upset?

No.

PSU – 24
Bobby Knight U – 20

And don’t forget your College Pick’em!

Man, the loss last week really got to us, didn’t it?

by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 13, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

Penn State domination prediction

I think Penn State will dominate this game for 4 quarters. Not because Indiana are total slackers but because it is Sr. day and the PSU players will all be pumped and ready to roll. I think it will be similar to MSU last year minus the snow!

Peter

by psuboy on Nov 13, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

Only thing about this prediction, though

it’s State College in November. Just because it’s in the mid 50’s today doesn’t mean you can totally rule out snow.

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Nov 13, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Indiana's gonna struggle mightily

To even score. Guarandamnteed three of our biggest defensive players were freakin embarrassed watching film this week:
- I pity the fool(s) who must endure the vengeance of Sean Lee taking out his frustration for Zach Boren knocking him on his arse and catching a first down in the red zone.
- I pity the fool(s) who must endure the vengeance of Lavorro after he watched Terrell Pryor, of all freakin people shrugging him off like a ragdoll and scoring the opening touchdown.
- I pity the fool(s), likely this Tandon Doss fellow raved about above, who must attempt to get open under the vigilant eye of D’anton Lynn, who must still be embarrassed for biting into the backfield and watching as Devier Posey streaked down the field for an armpunted touchdown reception.

Prediction?
PAIN, of course. But with a bit of an erudite flair from our graduating seniors on Senior Day.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Totally off topic

But did anyone see this in Doc Sat’s most recent post.

“(Friend of the blog Clay Travis suggests this has something to do with the HOPE scholarship, a program that allows any high school student in the state with a B average to attend Georgia for free, and the leftover tuition money being delegated to, er, certain cosmetic enhancements for coeds. We’ve seen no evidence to disprove this.)”

So you’re telling me if I lived in Georgia and got a 3.0 in highschool (not the most daunting challenge), I could go to school there for free? Is this real? If it is, I had no idea that the academics for some school are just this lax.

by STU Boy on Nov 13, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

I kind of get this

I’m just shocked I guess seeing it in writing, it just seems so unbelievably easy. Maybe I’m missing something and do not understand the circumstances fully.

by STU Boy on Nov 13, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I think North Carolina might do it too...

I think it makes it very hard for out of staters to get into a state school in these states, but I could be wrong.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 13, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

In Texas

If you finish in the top 10% of your high school class you are gauranteed admission to any state school of your choice. The thinking is to improve the chances of inner city kids to get into college.

by BSD on Nov 13, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

the state of Pennsylvania

is among the worst in the union for its support of public higher education. Just the reality of the keystone state; taxpayers have never had much appetite for paying for post-secondary education.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 13, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

nice

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't hurt

If a century of oil wealth helped Penn State and Pitt have academic endowments in the top 10 of any college in the country like Texas and Texas A&M.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 13, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

^ That.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 13, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I would never ever ever go to Penn State

If I was a high school student now. When I applied as a high school senior in the fall of 1996, I scrounged enough scholarships so that my out-of-state tuition was only $800 per semester. In 2009, that same amount of scholarship money would still leave me with $7700 per semester. I probably would have $100K in student loans if I graduated now. Not worth it.

by Cairo on Nov 13, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny thing

Seems like the more affordable student loans and grants the politicians throw at universities, the higher the price of tuition goes…hmmmm.

by BSD on Nov 13, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

There’s no incentive for colleges to control costs.

by Joe 96alum on Nov 13, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see how anybody can think

spending 100,000 on undergraduate tuition in a good use of financial resources.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 13, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

or graduate education for that matter

dammit.

A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
Bill Cosby

by psu on Nov 13, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

For your sig.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Same for a $150,000 MBA

Hence, I’m your run of the mill BA-only having Pennsylvania cracka. At least I can still say things like: 717 Fo Reallllll!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 13, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Cairo

I just love the fact that you acknowledge that it would take you 6 or 6 1/2 years to graduate. Like the way you roll.

by cwarner28 on Nov 13, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I was factoring in tuition increases over 5 years.

Plus my undergrad degree is a 10-semester program at PSU.

by Cairo on Nov 16, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

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