Michigan State Game
A group of us will be heading to East Lansing for the first time this weekend. I was wondering if there were any tailgating/parking restrictions or rules we should be aware of before I get there. Does anyone know which lot the PSU tent will be set up in?
Also, any suggestions about where to go or where not go while visiting East Lansing? Restauants, bars????
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i went in 05
i didn’t have any problems with my mini grill or drinking, no one gave me any problems. the downtown thats close to the stadium kind of feels like a microcosm of a downtown. There was, however, a hoagie shop that sold huge hoagies, im talking like, when cut in fours, they could serve a family. they were amazing too. so you got that going for you, which is nice.
For the glory
by lionalum05 on Nov 16, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just bring
A bottle of whisky, flame thrower, and 2 time outs. Park on the lawn and show them the hate.
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
Bill Cosby
by psu on Nov 16, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I live in East Lansing
there’s nothing “bad” about the tailgating at MSU, but it is far far far inferior to the tailgating at Penn State. No RV lots to speak of, and the tailgating is mostly broken up into various parking lots around campus. The student tailgating area is a bit south of the stadium at the tennis courts, so if you are going to avoid any specific area, that’s probably the place to avoid (though it really isn’t that bad, and I wear my Penn State stuff there all the time).
The Penn State alumni tent will be at Demonstration Field (http://alumni.psu.edu/events/pep/09PepRally/09MichiganStatePep.html) which is basically across the river to the north from the stadium/Sparty statue.
Parking at most of the tailgate lots is something like $15, though if you park about a mile south of the stadium there is the MSU commuter parking lot (intersection of Mount Hope Rd and Farm Lane) which is free, and that’s where I often set up my personal tailgate (if I’m doing a tailgate myself…usually I tag along with my MSU friends to their tailgates). They have constant busses running up to the stadium, which may cost a few bucks (I forget…I usually just do the walk…it isn’t really that far).
As far as the town itself…East Lansing is kinda small (about the size of State College, but with like 1/3 the number of bars). There’s not a lot of options for food/bars, and they’re all about the same. After the game (and Friday night starting around 10/11) the bars will most likely all have lines that will be a slow crawl. They really strictly enforce capacity laws around here, and it gets to be one in, one out pretty quickly (even though once you are inside it doesn’t seem crowded at all). The “downtown” part is really small, only about 3 or 4 blocks, with most everything off of Albert St (equivalent to Beaver Ave). Grand River Ave is the equivalent of College Ave.
Lansing itself is a bit bigger, and there are more bars downtown that you can go to, but nothing especially worth it. I’m not going to go into detail on any bars down there, but if you are interested I’m sure you can look it up. My only “reccommendations” for places down there are the Green Door (definitely an older crowd), and Rum Runners (a dueling piano bar that is kinda fun), but that’s only cuz those are the only Lansing bars I ever usually go to.
For East Lansing the bars are basically like this (in no particular order. I put food choices at the bottom):
Ricks: the “popular” bar which fills up the fastest. Cover is usually $5, and inside it is split into 2 sections, 1 side is a dance floor area with a DJ/band, dimmer lighting, fewer tables, while the other side has more tables, actual lighting, more TVs.
The Riv: also fairly popular, but less of a dance bar and more of a sit around drinking with friends, playing pool type of bar.
Crunchies: usually a little bit of an mixed/older crowd. I think they do karaoke on Saturday nights, but they also have good beer and decent prices (especially if you get the buckets of beer with a group of people).
The Peanut Barrel: This is also a mixed/older crowd bar, and one of the smaller bars in town. More of a local/townie bar, and a place with a jukebox, a few TVs, a pool table, and darts.
Buffalo Wild Wings: just like any other Buffalo Wild Wings chain
Harpers: a microbrewery, where the beer used to be somewhat good, is now not so good anymore. The food also went in steep decline. They usually have good deals, because no one really goes there anymore (even though they have the largest capacity). Easy enough to get into, though, and would be my favorite place if they upped their quality on the food a bit (still probably one of the better places to get food in town, though). Depending on crowd, and if I go to a party or not, this may be where I head after the game (it was full of Penn Staters after the 2005 game, all watching USC almost lose to Fresno St). This is actually one of the better good weather bars as they have a huge patio area, but that won’t be in effect for this weekend.
Under Harpers is a dance club, but it is like a $10 cover without student ID, and never seems to get going until almost 1 am (all the bars close at 2 am, with last call at around 1:45), so not really worth it. This is also the club where all the “locals tough guys” like to get into fights, so more often than not there are cop cars responding to something going on there at closing time.
Beggars Banquet: I don’t really go here that often. Typically an older crowd, and they recently started selling only these really expensive microbrews (like $18 for a pitcher is one of their “cheapest” ones).
The Land Shark: This is the “greek/fraternity/sorority” bar. I usually avoid it, but it is ok if you like that scene. My favorite memory from this bar is drinking beer out of the Stanley Cup a few years back, but that’s obviously not a normal occurance there.
The Post: they recently remodeled this bar and made it “fancier” but I don’t particularly care for it anymore. nothing against it, and they do have these really awesome fried mac & cheese balls.
Lou & Harry’s (LouHa’s): I’m on a personal boycott of this place. A lot of people I know like it, but I don’t see the appeal. They close at midnight, and aren’t that big. Often times one of the owners (Harry) will be working the door, and will let his “good friends” (that he just met, but they are female, so now they’re good friends) cut in line, which I don’t normally care for, but on multiple occasions it has turned into that girl then bringing her 20 other male and female “close friends” in, making the line not move for another hour. Definitely the biggest offender of the “VIP line” in town. (and don’t even get me started on the stupid VIP lines, though most places that have them handle them somewhat fairly)
My bar descriptions may not be the most up to date, as I don’t really go out drinking that much anymore (time & $$ limitations), but when I do, I usually go to the Riv, Ricks, Harpers, Crunchies, or the Peanut Barrel, depending on my mood (or where my friends are dragging me).
For drunken food, there is the ubiquitous Gumby’s Pizza and Pokey sticks, but my personal favorites are Menna’s Joint “Dubs”. These things are phenomenal. They’re grilled “wraps” of different kinds, and one will fill pretty much anyone up. They’re usually meat & potatoes based, but you can do pretty much any combination of things. Seriously try one if you are in town. (my personal favorite is the “Loaded” with Chicken). For Pizza there is Bell’s Greek Pizza, which I usually prefer, but the place Georgios is probably the closest to NY style you’ll get out here.
For mexican food, El Azteco is ok, and Los Tres Amigos is ok, but neither place is particularly great (you may sense a trend here).
If you like Mongolian barbeque, there’s a place about a mile east of campus called bd’s mongolian bbq (a chain). This is one of those places where you mix up your own meats & veggies and sauces and spices and they grill it for you.
If anyone here likes sushi, my personal favorite is Sushi Ya, though Sansu is also really good (and probably a bit better, if I’m going to be honest).
There’s not really anything special or unique to the area that I’d really reccommend (other than Menna’s Joint “Dubs”) food or bar-wise. If it makes a difference, I think Pat Forde reccommneded Crunchies for their food and drink when he was here a couple years back (food is decent bar food, and the beer is probably above average for the bars around here, but again, nothing special).
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 16, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
holy cow that was long
normally I preview it, but my preview button hasn’t worked since the upgraded site, and I didn’t want to risk losing it all. Enjoy the novel, I guess.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 16, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mongolian BarBeQue
Interesting?
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
by PaJoe on Nov 16, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mongolian BBQ joints
are usually attached to Chinese buffets (at least in SE Virginia). Ok if you like that sort of thing. Any I have tried have been remarkably similar.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Nov 17, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, one other bar I forgot, that I go to occasionally
Dublin Square. Probably the “fanciest” bar immediately in town, and I think a bit more expensive than the others, but I enjoy it. They also have 2 sections, up front with the main bar, and a stage with usually good live music, and then in the back with darts and a pool table and usually a DJ.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 16, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, and for the best Long Island Iced tea (in my opinion at least)
the Peanut Barrel has them for $5, they taste good, and 2 of them (they limit people to 2 each) will get most people started on a pretty good night ;-)
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 16, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I only made it to
“I live in East Lansing” and I got so sad for you JuggerNitt that I couldn’t read the rest of your novel.
We are not normal. We are legends.
by NittanyAlum02 on Nov 17, 2009 8:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd for brevity
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
by millzners on Nov 17, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, I really didn't mean it to be this long
but whenever I try to preview and then post anymore it asks me to save some file instead of actually posting, and then I lose everything. It didn’t seem that long as I was typing, though :-p
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 17, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reading this post is like finding El Dorado
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Nov 17, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that near El Segundo
I left my wallet there once.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 17, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't stay in East Lansing
As bad a rep as Dee Troit has, it’s head and shoulders above the EL. Plus, when you’re there, you can do yet another upgrade and head over to Windsor.
Or, you can listen to JNitt, whose above post may or may not be a self-subliminal attempt to rationalize his graduate school decision.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 16, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I assume the poster "Jeannine"...
has no interest in Canadian boobies.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Nov 17, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, she probably prefers the American kind
I suppose I shoulda supplied that info. For topless there is a place called Omars kinda close to the capital building in Lansing. If I recall correctly, when you “tip” you can lay on the stage and hold the $ strategically, and they’ll come and pick it up. If a girl lays on the stage to tip like this, the strippers will sometimes have a little “fun” with them (asking first, of course).
Then there’s the chain “Cheetahs” a few miles south, typical topless club/bar.
Finally, for the full nude connoisseur, then head on down to the Deja Vu. They don’t serve alcohol, though (like in PA)
And jtot will probably reconsider his distaste for my ex after this little tidbit: she’s the one that has dragged me to all those places (unfortunately she hated Penn State and football and sports in general)
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 17, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did she want you to
approve of her working conditions?
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Nov 17, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I reconsidered
And she still sucks. You’re a better man for having moved through that (so to speak). And for the record, brother, at the top of the list of black marks for that chic is she prevented us from having a beer together on the sunny golf course of the Rose Bowl!
Omars sounds quite Windsorian.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 17, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've actually never been to Windsor
around here it is where all the 19 & 20 yr olds go to be able to go out drinking, but I’ve never heard anything but praise for Canadian strip clubs. I’d imagine Omars is nowhere near as fun.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 17, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3 words
SUNDOWNERS – Niagara Falls
That is all
"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno
by Horse N Buggy on Nov 17, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
went in 05
Had no problems walking around with Beer even though I was there for a riot in ‘00 that was suppose to be over the ending of on-campus tailgating? Stayed in EL and it sucked as jtothep said. Some guys smoking tree were parked by my car and spit all over it. Didn’t even have any PSU stuff on it at the time. The hotel also sucked but I never spend too much on those things so that was probably part of my issue.
JoePa in '09
by JGuiher on Nov 16, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by the way
I have 2 extra tickets for this game, if anyone on here is interested (otherwise I may be forced to sell to one of my MSU friends).
I got them through PSU, they’re in “East Upper, section 105”. Face value is $49
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 16, 2009 3:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mediterannean Food
JNitt – isn’t there some sort of mediterannean food place downtown on the strip? I recall eating there when I visited in 2007 but can’t remember the name of the joint for the life of me.
It was an odd place to pre-game, but it had really good food.
by cjapsu on Nov 16, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
probably Woody's Oasis
their food is pretty good, and if you go to their place in the main “strip” area (there are a few of them scattered around town) they have this drink called a Stoli around the world which is basically just a bunch of stoli’s mixed together, and sometimes it is on special, so it is a good tasting, relatively inexpensive buzz. As a bar it is relatively decent…I don’t tend to go there as I usually forget about it, but it is ok.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 16, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the one
I have no idea how or why it was recommended to me. Definitely an odd choice for East Lansing, MI.
by cjapsu on Nov 16, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what's even weirder is they have some agreement with the housing and food services on campus
so all the on campus food stops sell their stuff, and in the International Center (bascailly the second, nicer Union building on campus, right next to the stadium) food court one of the four options for food is also Woody’s. I like their food and all, but their prices (at least for the on campus options) have nearly doubled over the past 3 or 4 years, so I haven’t gotten it in a while.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 17, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This has probably already been said but..
MSU allows open containers as you walk through campus, as long as its not liquor. Strap on the beer belt!
by MrBrianPSU on Nov 17, 2009 5:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
















