In Defense of Jared Odrick (or Up Yours, Rittenberg)
[Formatted this a little for you. - RUTS]
I can't take it anymore.
Okay, I know it has been awhile, but I have just got done with playoffs, and have really been trying to get 6 months worth of neglections taken care of around the house. I have been wanting to make another post recently but was not sure what to write about. Well thanks to Adam Rittenberg I now have that topic. Like many of you Jared Odrick's DPOY award came as a bit of a surprise to me, not because he did not deserve the award, but because I felt he would be overlooked, and that his value to the Nittany Lion's defense would not be appreciated. I was mistaken and the value #91 brought to the defense was appreciated and rewarded by the coaches vote. The media on the other hand made a "Sexy" pick and choose Greg Jones.
That is fine, the media is free to choose its own selection and there is nothing wrong with that choice. But what bothers me and led me to pick up my electronic quill was the following article by ESPN's Adam Rittenberg. I am not going to get into the pissing match of what is Rittenberg's agenda, that has been discussed ad nauseam on the boards here and at ESPN.com, but I will say that he is totally off base in his assumption that Odrick was a "puzzling pick". The coaches selected Odrick, and that shows a level of understanding about what his value was to the PSU defense. These are men who spend hours and hours in the film room, hours meeting to discuss game planning, and then on top of it all, and this will surprise some readers, ACTUALLY KNOW FOOTBALL BETTER THAN ALL OF US COMBINED.
These guys must have saw something on film that led them to vote for Odrick. These guys watch games on mute, and let the flow of the play and the results on the field dictate their actions. Odrick's play on the field, devoid of senseless commentary (did you know Royster played Lacrosse?), led the coaches to vote him as DPOY. These guys must have felt that in order to win against PSU they would have to start by handling Odrick. That sucked up two of your offensive lineman, which left 4-5 players left to block 6 others. Three of those defenders were linebackers, the great job Josh Hull did this year can be attributed to some degree to the phenomenal play of JO.
Bottom line is JO made everyone around him better, and was a force the coaches felt made a big difference on PSU's defense. I think I will trust career football men, over ball following media members (remember the media's preseason OPOY?). So Adam Rittenberg here is an open message to you (and I know you are a reader here) get off the PSU hate wagon and recognize the great job Odrick did this year.
This was posted today on Rittenberg's Blog you can find the article here.
Scott from Sanibel, Fla., writes: Re your comment about PSU down the stretch: You failed to mention how PSU did against Minnesota, Michigan and Northwestern (all in the second half of the season). I agree that Iowa should go to a BCS bowl, but your bias continues to show. Please try to be more objective. Thanks.
Adam Rittenberg: Penn State certainly took care of business against those teams, and deserves credit for doing so. I realize I'm not very popular among Penn State fans this year -- as opposed to last year, when they loved me for acknowledging the team's obvious success -- but when it comes to the on-field argument, I'm not going to sugarcoat things. Iowa has the edge. It doesn't mean I hate Penn State, just like it doesn't mean I don't think Jared Odrick is a great player even though I disagreed with him being Big Ten Defensive POY. The Lions had a nice season. They also lack a signature win. Those are the objective facts.
Rittenberg, Rittenberg, Rittenberg, you want to throw objective facts around now? Iowa has an edge? If the teams lined up on the last week of the season and played that game who do you feel would win? I doubt it would turn out to be the same score we saw on a wet and raining night in September. We loved you last year for telling us how great we were? No, we loved you because you didn't openly campaign against our team, and take shots at our BCS credibility every time you got a chance. Then on top of it all you imply that you know more about what defensive player was the best in the Big Ten this year than the coaches who gameplan and feel the pulse of their teams. Come on Rittenberg you can do better, you are starting to sound like a younger Dodd.
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Rittenburg
He’s just towing the line for ESPN and like everyone else at ESPN he’s hellbent on prognosticating. I mean c’mon, he’s got to write about something right? Here’s the formula for generating thousands of words of garbage in the name of so-called “sports journalism”:
1. Make either a very safe, or a very popular prediction; hope that these are mutually inclusive.
2. Underscore the points that make that verify that prediction, do this repeatedly, daily, and tirelessly.
3. At the end of the year write a hit piece if for some reason your prediction didn’t come true; undermine those rotten bastards who jobbed you out of another self-gratifying “I was right, just like always” article. Otherwise, go right ahead and write that self-gratifying “I was right, just like always” article.
4. Rinse and repeat.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
by millzners on Nov 24, 2009 12:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Adam Rittenberg is Pat Forde?
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Nov 24, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
shades of gray
or grey, for those of you prefer it
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
Hey, hey-hey!
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
It's been funny to see
Rittenberg lose the masses. I remember him being very well liked less than 12 months ago.
BSD
to be more specific
I think ESPN is bringing the ‘old guard’ out in him, he still has a good tone IMO and goes very good beat work, but his analysis and commentary seem to have drifted somehow.
BSD
Mixed bag
Like you said, I like his content and additional information he brings to the table.
But to repeatedly see him hammer on Penn State is tiring. When they rolled out the conference bloggers on ESPN, it was nice to have some additional, in-depth coverage of college football without any of the real or perceived bias that the corporate ESPN throws about.
But this season it seems like Rittenberg got an interoffice memo from the big guys about bashing Penn State. Especially lately. Every post about the conference takes stabs at Odrick, whether or not we’re “deserving” of a BCS bid, Clark, etc.
I really don’t see how people can be this flabbergasted by Odrick getting the award, unless they really think they somehow know more about the conference’s defensive players than the actual, real-life, professional coaches that have to scheme against these guys as a part of their jobs. It’s like some fry jockey at Mickey D’s telling me I don’t know how to design a damn storm sewer system. I’m going with the 11 Big Ten head coaches over some ESPN blogger on this one.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
to be honest, I don't believe you know how to design a damn storm sewer system, either
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 24, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest
it’s not all that difficult.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
Just make sure...
it goes down hill and not up!
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
It all started with the videos shot in his living room
He is one ugly dude, and couldn’t he at least shoot them in front of a white wall to give a more professional look. I am also an ugly dude, but am smart enough to not be on videos broadcast to the masses.
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
Bill Cosby
by psu on Nov 24, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He should be more like that guy from Iowa that showed a little bit of chest air
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Nov 24, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
hair
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Nov 24, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
More like less than 3 months ago
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Nov 24, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Ruts, Thanks for the edit.
The firewall I am behind during the day is killing me on the SB blogs. I can hardly even view the website most days.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
Also some folks have claimed that SIDs and GAs make the votes.
I have seen the school of thought that “they just picked the best player from the best unit” blah, blah, blah…
That theory doesn’t really hold up. The casual observer, or stat reader would never truly see what Odrick brings to PSUs defense, they most likely would vote for Bowman as PSUs defensive MVP based on stats, and exposure. Instead who ever voted saw the “intangibles” that don’t translate into stats and voted Odrick MVP.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
100% Agree
Rittenberg does not like PSU, and it is reflected in is supposed journalism.
I applaud you for your write-up, as I was harshly criticized last time I brought up Rit’s anti-PSU overtones.
Oh, please
You were not “harshly criticized”. By our standards, what you got was nothing.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Nov 24, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
We’ve dedicated whole posts to ripping posters a new one, especially if they’re a troll. See: “I tried it and it sucked”. You guys literally followed the idiot around on SBN to make sure any bit of credibility he had was flushed down the toilet, and no one even considered buying what he was selling (not that they would anyway). Compared to that, you received a slap on the wrist.
That was funny.
I say let's rock the Orange Bowl, because nobody will remember in five years anyway.
You see...
This is why I only read BSD and the Onion. Nobody else knows anything, and they’re all out to get us.
I say let's rock the Orange Bowl, because nobody will remember in five years anyway.
you know I only vote after being informed by the onion...
everything else is just left wing agenda driven drivel.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on Nov 24, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
another good one
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/sec_replay_official
"No, Donny, these men are nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of"
by psu in the w-b on Nov 24, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Check out JNitt's link about the history of ND football. Very funny
One of the best parts: “1943: With the boys fighting World War II overseas, the women of Notre Dame take the reins of the football team and pummel the notorious draft-dodging Michigan Wolverines to bring home another national title to South Bend”
"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"
one of the big down sides of the internets....
..back in the day Joe probably got a phone call from the conference commish, then Joe held a squad meeting the next day and they announced the all big ten selections and everyone clapped and gave each other props.
Now….the kid may or may not find out from someone other than the internet and before half his teammates have even seen him, a thousand doucheas have commented on how the kid did or did not deserve the pick.
So rather than college football fans sitting around 20 years from now debating on who their favorite big ten player was from 2009, some kid will google “Jared Odrick all big ten” and the search will come up with all kinds of flak saying how he didn’t deserve it.
F that…11 big ten coaches (or at least the majority of them) felt Odrick was worthy. That’s good enough for me.
don't get me wrong...
…I love this blog and the venue of communication it provides. I just don’t care for some of the asinine comments out there as a whole.
Whole or Hole?
Cuz I got your asinine comments right here! ;)

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
reading the mailblog post today (tonight)
made me want to vomit. 3 or 4 of the emails were about ppl bitching in round-about ways that the psu team or players didn’t deserve something.
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/7498/big-ten-mailblog-32
We decide when you hear the snap count...
I read them and was waiting for the response to read
Thanks for the email You are right PSU does suck. BLAH BLAH BALH
"No, Donny, these men are nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of"
by psu in the w-b on Nov 24, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN Big Ten Blogger
Who appears to have an apparent man crush on the Iowa Hawkeyes this year. He is campaigning harder for them then Urban Meyer did for Florida in 06.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
On the other hand...
If Rittenberg honestly believes Iowa is the better team this year, and also believes can help put them in the BCS by pointing that out, maybe he’s just trying to make the system less about following the money and more about putting the best teams in the biggest games. I can’t fault the guy for that. If I were in the media, I would be pushing for the best teams to get in too.

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