Boise State in 2011?
by AdamShell on Nov 5, 2009 12:57 AM EST
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WAC commissioner Karl Benson told the Idaho Statesman on Wednesday that Boise State is struggling to schedule a BCS-conference opponent for 2011 — even with the help (and exposure and money) of ESPN behind the effort.
The Broncos are not asking for a return game in Boise. Just one road game. And about 10 teams have turned the Broncos down, according to Benson.
Well that's interesting. I, for one, would welcome the chance to play Boise State at home. I can't really see any reason why this isn't already on the schedule. I mean... give me Alabama and Boise State at home in the same season and the SOS debate becomes one of "No quality road opponents" instead of "No quality opponents."
The article goes on to mention some teams that have open schedules (which is just speculation) but mentions that Penn State's schedule for 2011 is already full. I think they mean 2010 because here's Penn State's current home schedule for 2011
2011
Sept. 3 TBA Sept. 10 ALABAMA Sept. 17 at Temple Sept. 24 TBA Oct. 1 at Illinois Oct. 8 OHIO STATE Oct. 15 IOWA Oct. 22 at Northwestern Oct. 29 PURDUE Nov. 5 OPEN Nov. 12 WISCONSIN Nov. 19 at Minnesota Nov. 26 at Michigan State
Come on Tim Curley. Give us an early Christmas present... and ample time for Cairo to start thinking up some HATE!
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TBA is better than BSU
Even if we have to play them twice.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Not true
Who else would we typically schedule for those TBA slots? Random craptastic MAC team? Random 1-AA team? Boise State is a FAR superior opponent to any of the teams we traditionally have to fill out the remaining two games after our premier opponent and Temple OOC obligations. Boise State is a respectable opponent and a respectable team, and would help our SOS.
Let's Go State!
Boise State will probably suck in 2011
Let’s play them home and home in the same year…they can work a deal to drop UNLV or Idaho State or whomever.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
No win situation...
…if you beat Boise State, then “you should have beat them.”
….if you lose to Boise State, then it is curtains on your NC title hopes (see, Oregon 2009). Although Oregon is still in the mix, it is tough to see Oregon hopping Boise State and getting a shot at the title.
WE ARE.......PENN STATE!
It’s probably not that clear cut- I think if they both win out, Oregon will vault BSU eventually on SOS. But is it any worse that playing Syracuse or Virginia? I don’t think so.
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 5, 2009 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
I would argue
Playing Boise State is better than playing Syracuse or Virginia. Or Rutgers, for that matter. We really need to find some additional spice for our OOC schedule after the series with Alabama… Some additional spice paired with Alabama would be nice too, for that matter.
Let's Go State!
I disagree
Playing Boise State this year is better than those teams but if you are playing a team from a BCS conference that is competitive that year it is far better than playing BSU.
Case in point you will never hear tWWL saying well Texas, Floribama etc should have scheudled Utah…
How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?
but we wouldn't get a team from a BCS conference for a 1 & done home game
let alone a competitive team from a BCS conference.
The only reason a team would turn down this offer is they are scared and realize it is “lose lose”, since as Nick7 says, you beat them, no biggy, you shoulda beaten them. If you lose to them, however, people laugh at you, even though BSU is actually a good team, at least as good as an average BCS team, people just can’t look past being non-BCS.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 5, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
The other reason to turn it down would be
the amount of $ Boise State is looking for. I am guessing PSU would not be willing to shell out anything north of 500k in that open slot.
by cpm126 on Nov 5, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, now that makes sense.
I wouldn’t want to pay that kind of money for a potential loss. Good point there.
well, it looks like ESPN was willing to help out with that
a la Oregon State in 2008
At least according to the quoted lines up top.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 5, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure we'd be overlooked for beating BSU
It’s not just that they’re ranked in the top 10 this year for being undefeated. They’ve been in the rankings since 2006, they’ve proven they can beat top competition in the highest stakes (Oklahoma 2006), they’re always in the preseason rankings, etc. I think a PSU/BSU matchup would generate a ton of national attention and be a win for both programs.
I'm thinking 2011 is our next very strong year,
so bring on Boise State, and make them play on actual green grass!
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
They will probably develop some sort of green away uniform
so that they can still have their advantage
This is why it's unfair to criticze Boise's schedule
This, or pretty much any other, year. Nobody will play them anymore.
Personally, I like the match up. Make them come play a Saturday noon game, then beat them, kind of like Oregon State.
Beat Ohio State.
I haven't read the story
but one thing that seems missing in a big way is how much BSU is demanding for the one-n-done. I’m guess lots and lots. That could be a major reason they aren’t getting any love, because the rest of it doesn’t really add up to me.
BSD
My guess is ESPN
would be putting up a fair amount of whatever cash it takes to get this done.
Beat Ohio State.
that's what the article implies
even with the help (and exposure and money) of ESPN behind the effort.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 5, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
i think the bigger problem with that schedule
is that we aren’t playing michigan.
We decide when you hear the snap count...
Seriously folks
What are the chances of playing Boise State the week before Alabama?
Zero, point, zero. Get over it. We’re playing either Tennesse Tech [freshman] or Wissakton Barracks.
Beat Ohio State.
but what about inbetween at Temple and at Illinois
I think that’s a perfect spot for a home game with Boise State
"I'm driven by greatness" - Derrick Williams
Don't be surprised
the way Al Golden has that program going Temple may be a ranked team by 2011 – (you heard it here first)
How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?
it wouldn't have anything against that.
you know joepa is waiting for someone in the media to ask what he thinks of temple’s success, just so he can say, “whatdid i tell ya…”
We decide when you hear the snap count...
they don't play anyone fantastic
but if they win out, i’d be surprised if they get left out at 10-2
We decide when you hear the snap count...
That 'Nova loss killed them for this year though
they would probably be receiving a decent amount of votes right now had they not lost that game
I don't disagree
But ‘Nova is 7-1 and ranked #4 in the country. They’d give a lot of good teams a tough ballgame…
Big matchup this weekend...
Pitting #4 Villanova at #1 Richmond… My future brother and sister-in-law went to William and Mary so I get all of the 1-AA FCS updates…
If they win the MAC championship
they’d have to beat Central Michigan, who might be ranked at that point if they win out too.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Boise
I think we need to play them as soon as possible after Alabama, as a BCS insurance policy. Beating Boise, I think, is a respectable OOC win and if we drop that game to Bama it would be nice to have a mid-range OOC win to point to when the ranking arguments start.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
I heard on a talk show this am
That we are projected (whatever that means) to play Boise this year in a bowl game. That would be plenty of Boise for this decade for me. It would actually suck big time to play them for our bowl game this year, how do we “win” in that situation.
"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."
Umm...They're good.
At what point do we just suck it up and admit it?
“If we lose we suck, if we win it’s no big deal”. I think that this is total bulls#@t. They consestently go 11-1, and 12-0. They win their bowl games. They’ll play anybody that will sack up and take them on.
Get over it. It’s not a dream match, and it isn’t sexy like USC. But they’d be coming to play, and we’d be lucky to win.
Beat Ohio State.
by jesse. on Nov 5, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I couldn't agree harder.
I know that Boise in a bowl, or even Boise at home isn’t ideal, but I feel like nobody has even watched BSU in the past 4 years. They are a legitimate football team. I think scheduling them now, and playing them in 2011 could potentially be huge for our SOS. At this rate Alabama and BSU in the same year could maybe even put us in the MNC discussions with one loss.
"The only cohesive passing game in the whole damn conference was in Happy Valley." -Rivalry Esq.
I don't understand this "no win situation" stuff.
They’re going to be a top five team, and PSU fans will make up 90-95% of the stadium on what should be a neutral field. I think that’s a dream scenario.
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by Run Up The Score on Nov 5, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
There's no such thing as a "no win situation" in football
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by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
sure there is
The Penn State football team no win against Iowa this year.
"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."
by psu on Nov 5, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
They may be good
But it just isn’t a very exciting match up to me. Looking at FSU, tennessee, texas A and M, and USC vs Boise in a bowl match up. I just cannot get as excited about a game vs Boise as I did the other bowls. For all I know Boise could be better than any of them but it is still hard to feel the Hate for them like the traditional big name schools we have played. Maybe I am just too old school and stuck in my ways, but that is how I feel. I would love to see them on the regular season schedule instead of directional state for the mildly handicapped.
"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."
It's hard to know how good a team is
with a sample size of one. Not saying you’re wrong, but I think the idea that we’d be “lucky to win” is a little presumptuous. I mean the knocks on the schedule are valid:
Miami (OH) (1-8)
at Fresno State (5-3)
at Bowling Green (4-5)
UC Davis (who cares)
at Tulsa (4-4)
at Hawaii (2-6)
San Jose State (1-6)
This week: at Louisiana Tech (3-6)
That the majority of your schedule made up of teams that are .500 or worse against non-BCS schools.
BSD
Isn't that what Oklahoma thought a few years ago.
Obviously, their confrence is a joke. But all you can do is win your games.
I think the things people say about Boise are the same things they said about Penn State in the late 60’s and early 70’s. “Their schedule is a joke”, “who cares if you beat them”, “it’s a lose/lose game”. It was all crap then, and I’m just about ready to buy that it’s all crap now.
Every few years or so a new program cracks into the ranks of “legitimate college football program that you have to take seriously”. Sooner or later, Boise is going to get a crack at the BCS title game.
Beat Ohio State.
by jesse. on Nov 5, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm surprised
there isn’t talk about getting all these “almost there” schools and just creating a 7th BCS conference. Travel isn’t much an an issue any more (see: South Florida in the Big East), and the revenue that comes with the auto-bid/being taken seriously would more than cover the downside.
I agree with the concept but I’m not going to consider BSU’s record the same as Iowa’s, it’s just too different.
BSD
Make it like the UEFA Champions League
Look at the rolling 3 or 5 year trend of these schools and the top 8 make the conference.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
I've always been partial
To a Big East/Moutain West playoff game for an automatic BCS bid. But Boise would have to join the MWC for that to solve this specific problem.
Hell, even if the Mountain West added say Boise and Hawai’i, you’d have to think they would generate enough momentum to break in. Bosie, Utah, BYU, TCU, and Hawai’i, would have the core of a pretty tough league, at leat right now. But I wonder if there is enough blue blood in there to sustain the success on a long term basis.
Beat Ohio State.
MWC (9 teams) plus Boise St, Fresno St and Hawai’i = 12 teams, good conference, with championship game. I think that would probably be BCS worthy, at least on par with the ACC and Big East.
Also, they might want to go for Nevado over Hawai’i given the travel costs associated with playing games in Hawai’i (not just football, but in all sports).
And Nevada's usually decent, aren't they?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
For a non bcs, yeah they are decent
Tulsa and Houston are usually competent as well(if either of them are in that conference, i dunno)
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
For me
I mean the knocks on the schedule are valid
is actually one reason why I WOULD like to play them. They get a lot of love for a schedule that doesn’t impress. I’d like to see us knock the snot out of them so we can all say “All right, can we all just shut up about BSU already?”.
"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"
i've also heard georgia tech
right now it’s about 50/50 BSU/GT.
if we could just let BSU/TCU play in the “no one cares about these teams” bowl, and let us play in the orange bowl, i would be happy.
We decide when you hear the snap count...
Boise
Wouldn’t mind playing them. Nice to see a different opponent. Would likely be a national TV game and not on the BTN or ESPN2. Would enjoy a home and home or a 2 for 1. You get more winning against BSU than Akron or Toledo or directional Michigan.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
You get more winning against BSU than Akron or Toledo
Dude, this season you’d get more from beating Boise State than you would from beating USC, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Miami or Nebraska. Or Penn State for that fact.
How many top ten finishes do they have this decade? It’s a bunch.
Beat Ohio State.
I know...
I’m just sick of seeing MAC teams and Temple.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 5, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Touche
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 5, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
I think that's spelled 'Too-shay'
But then I may be Toucountry.
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by leeharvey418 on Nov 5, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I can't believe how many people here are looking down on BSU.
Things like “it’s a lose-lose” and “if we beat them, no one will care” blah blah. I think it’s ridiculous but if a few people wearing the Penn State uniform think that way, it will end up as a loss. Look at a team like 2009 Oregon…lose to Boise State at home the year before, came into Boise State looking to dish out some revenge, got handled. That’s a team that just pasted USC like nobody else has in 10 years that couldn’t hang with BSU. They weren’t even overlooking Boise!
Article motivation
Benson also said the WAC has hired an Idaho public relations firm to do some research and arrange media interviews to help push Boise State’s BCS case. The WAC also hired a public-relations firm to push for Hawaii’s inclusion in 2007, he said.
Is it a coincidence that you have a vague article with no specifics (meaning teams that turned them down, $ involved, etc), which essentially revolves around a quote from the WAC commissioner, which also mentions the WAC hiring of a PR firm?
Yeah
I think this “news” is all too convenient from BSU, as they try to justify their awful overall schedule — which features only only one BCS conference school (at home, no less) out of 5 non-conference games. It’s like BSU is trying to say “look, we try, we really try, but we can’t do it”. Meanwhile, TCU (for example) added not one but two BCS conference opponents (UVa and Clemson) in this past off-season to their schedule — despite coming off a top 10 finish in the polls last season.
I don’t buy it. Teams would be jumping at the shot to schedule BSU in a one and done — unless they are asking some obscene payout (quite possible). More likely, this vague release with non-specific information is just BSU playing the PR game.
This is exactly what it is...
PLEASE, voters, we tried. See, the news papers say we tried!
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Time to call them on it...
PSU will schedule BSU on 9/24. Make it happen BSU.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
That's probably not going to solve anything
So what happens if we beat them? They’re not likely to go anywhere that season, until of course the next season when that crushing loss is ignored and they get hyped again the next season.
Just a quick note about that 2011 schedule
The only open date is 9/24 between Temple and Illinois. Opening week we’ve picked for our FCS team – you guys remember the Fightin’ Larry Birds of Indiana State?
I’m still in favor of playing Boise State. Public perception is getting better with these top-tier non-BCS teams, where losses don’t mean as much, and wins are becoming more impressive. It would also be an insane home schedule that year – ’Bama, BSU, Iowa, O$U, with Purdue and Wiscy always being a hit or miss.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
cue the picture
"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno
by Horse N Buggy on Nov 5, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
2011 schedule
The 2011 schedule is totally filled. On Sept 3, we are playing Indiana St. On Sept 24, we are playing Eastern Michigan. Both at home, obviously. It’s possible that the Eastern Michigan game has since been dropped, but I doubt it.
Anyhow, the 2011 home schedule is killed anyway, there’s no reason that PSU needs to upgrade it. what they really need to do is to add a good home game in 2012 — the home schedule is awful and we play Virginia on the road that year. Is BSU wants to come to Happy Valley on 9/22/12 (our only open day that year), that would be awesome. I’m not holding my breath.
Didn't we drop Arkansas state last year in favor of OrSU?
Or something happened, I don’t remember why.
better than playing a div 1AA team
they should jump all over this oppurtunity. Boise State isnt even asking for a return game. If PSU can make this happen that would make for a sweet home schedule. Alabama, OSU, Iowa, Wisconsin
Scheduling the Rose Bowl Champ?
In 2011, there is a very real chance Boise State will be coming off of a Rose Bowl due to new BCS rules that go into effect in 2010. All that needs to happen is the Big Ten or Pac-10 sending its champ to the title game and Boise being the highest-ranked mid-major. With Virginia Tech and Oregon State on their 2010 schedule, this is absolutely possible.
So, this could potentially make a 2011 home game against Boise a rematch.
Stuff like this drives me crazy...
here is a team begging to come play a one off game in our stadium. A team that has been consistently highly ranked. A game that will probably draw some 3rd party money to make it happen. A type of game that this AD says it needs to schedule to make budget.
I can’t make an arguement not to do it – other than dodging competition.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Currently, here’s Boise’s 2011 non-con schedule:
Sat, Sep 10 Wyoming
Sat, Sep 17 @Toledo
Sat, Sep 24 Tulsa
Sat, Oct 01 Utah
They definitely need a “big fish” for that year. Since they’ve already got a Sep 24 date with Tulsa, that leaves Sep 3 open. I don’t see us wanting to play Boise and Bama in back to back weeks.
Oh, and Boise does play Virginia Tech next season on October 2nd, at FedEx Field.
"Is that right?" Joe answered. "That’s not a problem. But you’ve got a problem. You don’t relate to me. And that’s a big problem."
Would BSU rather play
Tulsa or PSU on 9/24? Make them reshuffle if they really want to get this done.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Another problem with the Boise game
is even if they are good, as soon as we beat them (if we beat them), everyone will just say, “oh, guess they’re not that good this year” and dismiss it as a win over a mediocre non-BCS school. That’s the problem with playing them, especially early in non-con. Only the undefeated Boise States ever get any recognition, and they won’t be undefeated if they lose to whomever they play in 2011.
That would still make them a
better home-and-none opponent than Coastal Carolina, Youngstown St, Illinois St, Indiana St and numerous others in the recent past and future.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
I agree for the most part
except that there is a realistic chance of losing to BSU opposed to the schools you mentioned. Ducking competition, yes, but just saying the “there’s nothing to gain” argument is somewhat valid
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 5, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I really don't get this one guys
There is NO negative to this. None. None. Don’t even try to spin it by saying if we win Boise would be immeaditley discredited, because they wouldn’t. They would still end up at worst 10-2 and in the top 20. Who cares that they’re not a traditional power.
Kellen Moore
He’ll likely be a serious Heisman candidate as a senior as well, so there’s that angle.
The angle of traditionally killing Heisman winners and big time candidates?
Besides, look the wonders they worked for Oregon. And we know they’re classy. To me, BSU is Pitt with potatoes. Why even give them the credibility?
Deus nobiscum, quis contra?
Or, to look back in time a little ways..
Once upon a time someone thought playing Toledo was a NO negative situation. They won like more games than anyone over a span. Wanna know how that turned out? facepalm
Deus nobiscum, quis contra?
Because they routinely win when facing supposedly superior competition?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I don’t get this hatred. This is like saying Gonzaga and Xavier suck at basketball.
Its not hatred. Its apathy.
Their OOC’s (outside Oregon) routinely make ours look rough and tumble. And they play in the biggest joke of a conference around. I’m just not ready to welcome them as a second coming yet.
Deus nobiscum, quis contra?
It's not about second coming
It’s about a match-up with a Top 20 team. What more do you want? I don’t get it.
Its a matchup that isn't happening. What is there to discuss?
Its their whining that they can’t get anyone to play. Let me see where they come to us wanting to play, not yelling from a podium. We might see them in a BCS bowl as it is.
Deus nobiscum, quis contra?
Other than Oklahoma and an Oregon team who isn't the Oregon team they aren't now
Who is this supposedly superior competition? That 28-21 shellacking of traditional rival Tulsa? They lost to a supposedly superior TCU team last year. In the last 4 years they’ve beat Oklahoma and Oregon twice and lost to: Washington, Hawai’i, East Carolina, and TCU.
Deus nobiscum, quis contra?
Since when
Are we snobs, too good to play a perennial top 20 team. Please I am dying to hear this. And give me some facts, not just saying they’re over-rated because God forbid they lose 1 game a year. (Once to an unbeaten Hawaii, another time to a 1-loss TCU team).
I'm saying if they played in the Big Ten, or probably even the ACC
They wouldn’t lose just one game a year. They don’t have the tradition to hold our nuts. Lets see them play Penn State, Iowa, and Michigan in consecutive games. I’m of the opinion they’re full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Deus nobiscum, quis contra?
And your undefeated Hawaii team got shitstomped by the Juggernaut that is Georgia.
After beating such luminaries as Northern Colorado and Louisiana Tech. I’m saying its easy to get up for one good game a year against a team looking past you.
Deus nobiscum, quis contra?
I give up
I am getting no real arugments back, just you telling me they suck, so I give up. I just never want to hear anyone ever complain about PSU Basketball’s nonconference schedule if they actually believe this.
No real argument back to "Are we snobs?" with facts?
I don’t care if we play them or not. I just don’t think they’re as good as you do.
Deus nobiscum, quis contra?
you actually have gotten a few arguments
namely they may be wolves, or they may be sheep in wolves clothing (hey, turnabout is fair play).
I don’t know if they’d be undefeated, but let’s say Purdue had BSU’s schedule and were undefeated through that. Then they beat OSU. Does that mean they’re a great team? Or does that mean they were able to play up for one game a year.
I know this argument could be made for practically any team that has a soft schedule, including PSU this year, but it doesn’t mean it isn’t a “real” argument.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 7, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
I say play them....
but if you want to play for the nationalt title you fill your non-con schedule with cake. This is the strategy of Flordia and Texas. The best way to play for the MNC is to be undefeated.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
True.
But all of those teams have at least one game to look at and say “here, we tried with the schedule!”
In the years of the Virginia matchup we probably won’t even have that. And what will be the excuse then since Virginia isn’t even good now? We can’t pull the Syracuse “they were in an Orange Bowl around the time we scheduled them” excuse.
If the AD and whoever else involved set their priorities to 50%football/50% profit instead of 5/95, we could get a decent schedule that won’t hurt us in the long run.
We have gotten more than 2 lines of press on ESPN like twice this year. The Iowa game, and Michigan. With the conference not what it used to be, that isn’t going to cut it for our exposure. Even if Boise is a fraud, they are a flavor of the week, and better than whatever else we are filling our schedule with.
It's been a long, a long time coming
But I know a change gonna come, oh yes it will-Sam Cooke
Exactly.
I’m not saying don’t play them. I’m saying quit acting like Boise State is Florida squared just because they have a guy on the cover of an NCAA game.
Deus nobiscum, quis contra?
Who is Texas'
at least we tried opponent in the non-conference? Yeah, Fla plays FSU each year, but Fla hasn’t played a non-con out of state road game in forever.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 5, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Because I was curious
Florida’s last regular season OOC not played in the state of Florida was 1991 at Syracuse.
Not taking a stance with this post, just giving out the tidbits of trivia being thrown around.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Exactly what this article
discusses:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-bcs102009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Get off my lawn!
Boize staint isnt even in a BSC confernce, how culd they posibly evar be a goode team.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
I wouldn't know
I only watch SEC games. The Big 10 sux
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by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Oh well played
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by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
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