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In this Saturday, Oct. 17, 2009, photo, Penn State quarterback Daryll Clark passes the ball during the second half of an NCAA college football game against Minnesota in State College, Pa. Penn State quarterback Daryll Clark has what seems to be an embarassment of playmaking options in a passing game that has the No. 12 Nittany Lions rolling into Northwestern this weekend on a four-game roll. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

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22 days ago: In this Saturday, Oct. 17, 2009, photo, Penn State quarterback Daryll Clark passes the ball during the second half of an NCAA college football game against Minnesota in State College, Pa. Penn State quarterback Daryll Clark has what seems to be an embarassment of playmaking options in a passing game that has the No. 12 Nittany Lions rolling into Northwestern this weekend on a four-game roll. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)



Before the season we all circled this game as the one that would make or break the season. Sure, many of us figured we would be 9-0 and competing for a national championship, but those dreams went out the window that soggy night in September. A chance at back-to-back Big Ten championships likely fluttered away as well, but that doesn't mean there's nothing to play for today.

There's a chance at a BCS at-large bid at stake, but there's more than that. This is the game that will define this team. All season long this team has been fighting the label of the soft schedule. After losing to Iowa, Penn State dropped out of the top ten. Though other teams in the top ten have lost, Penn State has not moved up because voters don't want to believe. Penn State has even been passed by teams like Oregon while they hang around just outside the top ten. A win today may or may not correct that. Many voters will surely say all Penn State did was beat a three-loss Ohio State team that lost to Purdue and give them no respect anyway. But if Penn State loses, there will be no shortage of critics who say the 2009 Nittany Lions were fools gold from the beginning. The legacy of this team is at stake.

And beyond that, there is the legacy of Daryll Clark. Though he's been tremendous in his two years as a starter, there are those who doubt his conviction. There are those who doubt he is capable of winning "the big game". Remember last year how we said each week was the new "biggest test" for Penn State. Going into Madison was supposed to be Penn State's biggest test. Then beating Michigan was supposed to be Penn State's biggest test. Then winning in Columbus was supposed to be their biggest test. And week after week Penn State passed the test with Daryll Clark at the helm, but each week the detractors conveniently forgot to give Clark and Penn State credit for passing the test.

Though Ohio State fans refuse to admit it, they are our rival. I've seen a level of vitrol from the Ohio State fanbase unlike any I've seen from them all year. If they consider us nothing more than the equivalent of playing Wisconsin, you could have fooled me. They insult our coach. They insult our fans. They insult our defense. And they insult our quarterback. They hate us, and it shows. Though they refuse to acknowledge it, this is a rivalry game. Both teams hate each other, and the stakes are high.

Of all the games on the schedule, this is the game I want the most. Regardless of what happens in the BCS picture, beating Michigan and Ohio State in back-to-back years is a success in my book. I think this team can get it done.

Go get 'em, boys. Take no prisoners.

Go State. Beat the Buckeyes.

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Time to rip shit up today

by PSUBarge on Nov 7, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

disjointed reasonings for PSU victory below:

OSU’s defense is steller, but will be on the field quite a bit. pryor doesn’t have robiski to bail him out like last year. no beanie wells (not like he was a factor last year). both OLs are shaky, and clark > pryor. evan royster is starting to show some cohesion with the OL. much of osu’s traditional offensive strategy involves pulling guards, and this requires timing and experience-they don’t quite have it yet. home game. psu actually holds the advantage in special teams, and with osu’s kicker going down i truly believe part of the defensive gameplan will be to play all four downs. psu wr’s>>>>>>osu wr’s.

i expect a close first half. for the second half, i expect psu to crush their enemies, see osu driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their fat women.

psu 27
osu 10

back to work and coffee.

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Nov 7, 2009 10:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

one more reason

the mismatch of the osu lbs with

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Nov 7, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If I started a BSD account today.

I would so choose “GODS GIFT” as my username.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 7, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 7, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

depends on which side of the altar you're on

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Nov 7, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Michigan more than Ohio State

Ohio State is Wisconsin to me. Maybe Illinois. Definitely not Iowa.

There is no Ohio State, really. I mean, yeah, it’s a border rival and all but they’re a freaking bar school. Wanna learn to mix drinks? Well go to THE Ohio State University.

Big whooop. Okay, let’s KILL them.

by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 7, 2009 11:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You must not have had too many personal interactions with aOSU fans...

I’m the opposite – I can tolerate MU fans, but can’t stand aOSU. Generally speaking, MU alums, though incredibly arrogant, are mostly intelligent. aOSU fans/alum are generally belligerent, bring forth baseless points when talking about CFB (sprinkled with f-bombs), and dwell amongst the lowest levels of society.

by NoLimitLion1 on Nov 7, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my god. I am Ohio State.

Just standing here, watching Gameday, and reading comments. Realized that I thought of Ohio State’s fans as kind of stupid, arrogant and violent. Kind of how people look at Philadelphia fans. But I’m a Philly fan. Goddammit.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 7, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We are controlled aggression.

We’re pissed because until last year, our teams couldn’t win shit for 25 years. And we’re still pissed because the Eagles, for some reason, can’t win the Super Bowl.

Ohio State fans are just assholes who even though having a lot of success over the years, they are still super assholes with no sense of class or dignity.

"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09

by kmblue on Nov 7, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Arrogance trumps stupid-belligerent in my book

I was at the first PSU-Michigan game and got into a…altercation.

I was also at that PSU-OSU blowout in 1994. Guess I never respected them since.

by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 7, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha, fair enough...

There are a lot of MU alum in my field, so I suppose I have to tolerate them.

aOSU on the other hand…well here’s my story from 2000 from a previous posting…

I went with my in-laws to the 2000 game at that glorified community college they call a university. We got to park the car RIGHT next to the stadium, since my girlfriend’s grandfather had a handicapped sticker (also an AVID tOSU fan). My girlfriend and I didn’t have tickets, so we decided to walk from the stadium (near the time of kick off) to their junky version of our College Ave. called High St, and maybe catch the game in a bar. Couldn’t have been more than a mile, but I can’t TELL YOU how many times we were accosted, and told to go "f ourselves". I counted…17 times in less than a mile, several of which nearly resulted in fights. And these weren’t just students – older, 40-somethings getting in on the action. Ultimately, we decided to skip the bar altogether (a SMART MOVE), and hang out at a friend’s place.

I had never seen such hostility and utter classlessness of any fan base…ever. We reached High St, and I instantly went to a clothing shop to change out of my PSU attire (standard, varsity lettering…nothing truthful, like "Columbus is a s**thole") because I knew that if I had kept wearing my PSU shirt, I might not leave Columbus unscathed.

I will always, ALWAYS remember the trashy, classless behavior of Ohio State, and will NEVER respect their program, alumni, or fan base.

by NoLimitLion1 on Nov 7, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My only experience with Buckeye fans

was during my cousins wedding on Northwestern’s campus (a beautiful campus by the way). Well, the wedding was during the NW-OSU game and there was absolutely no one on the streets except us.

Until this couple donning OSU gear came walking by shouting their stupid chant ( “Go Bucks” or something like that ) and I had to tell them to keep it down cuz of the ceremony. But they didn’t. They continued to chant louder.

And I said, “Look, you little cusses, I’m not some Northwestern sissy boy who’s gonna let you act like retards and get away with it. I went to Penn State and I’m gonna rape and pillage that sorry institution of yours if you don’t shut the f* up!”

Okay, that last part didn’t happen. But they did walk by us chanting louder. At my cousins wedding.

by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 7, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Know what I just realized?

You guys never had an interview with a Buckeye blog this week.

by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 7, 2009 11:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

For as much as I generally hate that "cement his legend" stuff

It’s really true for Clark today. If he happened to light up Ohio State today, he’d probably have to be included in every conversation about the greatest Penn State QB’s for the rest of your life. But with two big losses against Iowa, two wins over Michigan’s worst teams in decades (not his fault), unfinished business last year in Columbus (not his fault), and a big loss in the Rose Bowl (not his fault), there’s no denying a big hole in his career accomplishments.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 7, 2009 11:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

This may sound Dierdorf-ian, but the first quarter will really tell us what kind of game we’re getting. I think it’ll either be like last year’s game (or Iowa this year, if you’re a pessimist) or like Michigan, where it comes out and looks like a dogfight…but when the script runs out, one team looks overmatched.

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 7, 2009 11:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

DROP THE PUCK.

Objectively, I feel like we are better and should win. That said, I’m nervous and sick of all the jawing. Let’s get this thing going already.

by PSUinBOSSton on Nov 7, 2009 11:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Check out ESPN's screencap NOW

There’s Stanzi!! OMGz Terrelle Pryor!!!

Where’s DC?

by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 7, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Of all the Iowa players to highlight, why use Stanzi? Put Clayborn up there.

by gumbercules on Nov 7, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Regardless of star power

You have to admit, Stanzi defines that team. He plays poorly, they are losing. He snaps out of it hits some open receivers, they end up winning.

by PSUinBOSSton on Nov 7, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

According to my research

The last time Michigan and Ohio State lost to to the same team in consecutive years was to Michigan State in 1965-66. Thanks, College Football Data Warehouse!

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 7, 2009 11:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

All three Gameday guys picked us.

Now I’m nervous.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Nov 7, 2009 11:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well...

not Des. He hates Penn State.

by The Mess on Nov 7, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry - haven't been watching

Did Des pick Ohio State?

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Nov 7, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't think Des was there

Fowler, Herbie, and Corso all picked us.

The guest picker for Air Force did a great job too.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Nov 7, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Earlier

He wasn’t there for the final segment, but picked O$U when they were breaking down the game before. Same old BS about Pryor this, Pryor that.

by The Mess on Nov 7, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ballgame, Iowa

With 12:53 left in the first. NW doesn’t belong on the same field.

by gumbercules on Nov 7, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yo, new thread.

http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2009/11/7/1120028/early-games-open-thread

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 7, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs


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