So Long Casual Penn State Fan
by BSD on Nov 9, 2009 4:40 PM EST
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Well, I guess this is where you get off. Don't forget your lawn chairs and Igloo cooler out of the trunk. Not that you'll be needing those tailgating supplies anymore this year. Indiana in November? Yeah right.
We're still heading down the road a bit, but you look like you've had enough of this season. We wouldn't want to bore you any more than you already are. I mean, it's only Indiana, Michigan State, and the Outback Bowl. Who cares, right? It was a fun ride while it lasted. Thanks for gracing us with your company for these ten weeks. We'll be headed down to Tampa. And then there's the basketball season. You're welcome to come along for the ride if you want.
No? You've got too much to do to get ready for the holidays you say? We don't blame you. Got to get an early start on that Christmas shopping. I'm sure Walmart is having a midnight sale on apathy. Better stock up.
Make sure you get everything out of the back seat. Did you get your cell phone charger?
Well then, good luck and we'll see you next August. Don't be a stranger.
Signed,
Your friends at BSD
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You forgot to mention they will come here on signing day, rave about the class then move on. Although will all the early commits, they know we don’t get anyone on Signing Day, so on second thought you are right to leave this out.
by cjj127 on Nov 9, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, kids.
You’re not getting rid of me that easily.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Nov 9, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
glass half full look
I think we’ll get the Capital One Bowl matchup with LSU, no?
by FunnyBigHat on Nov 9, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You think?
I don’t think the Big Ten is going to get two BCS teams this year. If we finish third that puts us in the Outback Bowl unless the Capital One grabs us over Iowa, which is a possibility given how well our fanbase travels and how it’s been about a decade since we played in that game.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Nov 9, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago Tribune thinks we'll go to the Capital One bowl
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-09-big-ten-bowls-nov09,0,7285126.story
"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno
by Horse N Buggy on Nov 9, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's possible
I’m sure they would love to have us. I don’t think they would take us if Ohio State is available. But I could see them picking us over Iowa. And really, we’ll be tied with Iowa if they lose to Ohio State, so that is a really good possibility now that I think about it.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Nov 9, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Stanzi is out the rest of the season (I admit to not looking into the prognosis at this point) I’d say we’d be chosen over them. Then again, this is all riding on both Iowa and us winning out.
by HValley on Nov 9, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so there is no tiebreaker for mid-tier bowl games?
if there are 2 teams tied for 2nd or 3rd, they just pick who they’d rather have? i guess i’ve never thought about it much…
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Nov 10, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only bowls tied to a confrence champ have to take a specific team
Other than that, they get to take whomever sells the most tickets. There are some rules about not being able to take a 6 win team over a 7 win team, but that is about it.
Beat Indiana, I guess.
by jesse. on Nov 10, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No tiebreakers
The other bowls only have a picking order and have no obligation to choose teams based on where they finish. The only rules are:
1. A bowl can’t choose a team that has 2+ fewer overall wins than an available team. So, if a 9-3 team is available, the bowl can’t choose an 7-5 team over them. But it can choose an 8-4 team over a 9-3 team. Overall record is all that matter, the conference record does not (an 8-4/4-4 team can be chosen over a 9-3/7-1 team in theory).
This is a Big Ten rule with the bowls, though most conference have the same rule.
2. All teams with winning records (7-5 or better) must be chosen before any 6-6 team can be taken. A bowl can only choose a 6-6 team if no 7+ win teams are eligible.
This is an NCAA rule.
If PSU and Iowa and Wisconsin all finish 10-2 and are available, the Citrus Bowl can be free to choose whichever one of them they wanted regardless of head to head results.
by Laaaaazzz on Nov 10, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Capital One
Yeah, if we win out — obviously, not a given with playing at MSU — I think we are virtually certain to go to the Citrus Bowl. In fact, I would argue that we are more likely to make a BCS bowl at 10-2 than the Outback Bowl.
If tOSU beats Iowa, then tOSU goes to the Rose and it’s between a 10-2 Iowa and 10-2 PSU for the Citrus — and PSU definitely wins that, based on more fans, more TV coverage, and even a higher ranking and less recent loss (there would also be the perception of Iowa “reeling” by losing 2 of their last 3). Wisconsin might also be 10-2, but I think we would get chosen over the Badgers as well — they’ve played in Orlando for a bowl 3 out of the last 4 years.
If Iowa beats tOSU, then it’s a choice between 9-3 tOSU and 10-2 PSU. Yes, the Citrus might prefer tOSU considering how long it’s been since they haven’t been there forever (1995 season) but it’s not like we’ve been there that recently either (2002 season). And again tOSU would have the more recent loss and likely a lower rank.
We’ll see…
by Laaaaazzz on Nov 9, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, more I think about it, I think we’ll be in a BCS bowl rather than the Citrus if we end up at 10-2. Notre Dame’s loss to Navy took them out of consideration (I don’t see them climbing up high enough in the rankings to be eligible even if they win out) and so I only see 3 obvious at large teams — SEC champ loser (Bama/Florida), USC (assuming Oregon still ends up winning the Pac-10 and going to the Rose), and TCU/Boise St. The fourth at large would have to come from the Big 10/Big 12/Big East/ACC or a non-BCS team. The bowls are not willingly taking a non-BCS conference team. Neither Pitt nor Cinci (the likely second place Big East team) would be chosen [WVU might conceivably be chosen as an at large if they were eligible, but if they won out to finish 10-2, they’d end up as Big East champ and go automatically]. Oklahoma St is the only possibility from the Big 12 and it would require them to win out (and even then I don’t think a 10-2 Ok St gets chosen over 10-2 PSU). That leaves an ACC non-winner, basically Miami (FL), could does have some national following, but not really a traveling fan base — and would a bowl in Phoenix or New Orleans want them (since they won’t go to the Orange cuz that is where the ACC champ goes)? I think a 10-2 PSU goes over a 10-2 Miami.
The big wrench would be if Texas ends up not winning the Big 12, but gets in as an at large. Then a 10-2 PSU would get dropped down.
Admittedly, it’s possible that a 10-2 Iowa (losing to tOSU) gets chosen over 10-2 PSU, but I doubt it. Especially with Iowa having lost 2 of their last 3 to end the season.
by Laaaaazzz on Nov 9, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I heard on one of the broadcasts last weekend
that the Cinci game, last year in the Orange, was the lowest rated BSC game “ever”?? They had 35,100 in their stadium (that is capacity, I think) for the UConn game,. They just don’t have the large fan base or tradition to travel well.
PITT is a better draw, but only marginally. So even if PITT and UCONN went 10-1, it is very possible that the second place Big East team doesn’t get the BCS. If WVU beats them both, it even makes it a better possibility. That puts PITT at 10-2 (or 9-3) and Cionci at least 11-1 (losing to a fairly low ranked WVU) or 10-2.
Truthfully, I don’t see Cinci losing to one or the other. They could score against anybody. However, their defense is only fair. Lot like our ’94 team.
However, all the speculation is moot (I once had to explain to an upper level manager at work that it wasn’t mute!) if we don’t take care of business. I also think we have to really whip the Hoosiers and MSU. “Marginal wins” may not do it.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
by PaJoe on Nov 10, 2009 7:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nippert Stadium
Capacity is 35,000 and the UConn game was technically their all-time attendance record listed at 35,100. Other games have sold out as well, but they list their attendance real weird. All sellout games in 2007 were listed at 35,097, all sell outs in 2008 were listed at 35,098 and prior to the UConn game, the other sellouts in 2009 were listed at 35,099. I believe that their game against Pitt in 2007 was their first ever sellout since the stadium was expanded to 35,000.
JoePa in '09
by JGuiher on Nov 10, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so basically they add one more "person" every year
just to keep saying it is a record crowd?
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and now it is my turn to explain it to you
it isn’t really “moot”, either. It is “moo”, at least around these here parts.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew that, my fail
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
by PaJoe on Nov 10, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't really see any conceivable senario
where anyone in the big 12 north can challenge texas in the big12 championship game.
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Nov 10, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2 regular season games left.
Let’s remember that ANYTHING can happen. There could still be a three way tie for the Big Ten title. So what if the Rose Bowl is out of reach. Every game counts. This team can still go 10-2 and earn a match-up with a quality opponent in a big time Bowl game.
Would you rather be a Rutgers fan?
Reg4
by Regulator4 on Nov 9, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rose was pretty much out of reach all year...
Think about it…PSU goes undefeated, it gets the MNC..no question.
Ties with OSU or Iowa for the Big Ten, OSU or Iowa goes to the Rose since we were there last year.
About the only way they could get to the Rose is if we would have beaten OSU this past weekend, and OSU goes on to beat Iowa.
I’d take a BCS bowl, but it’s unlikely…
by PawPrintz on Nov 10, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ties with OSU or Iowa for the Big Ten, OSU or Iowa goes to the Rose since we were there last year.
Um, no. Not only was the “last time going to the Rose Bowl” the last tie-beaker, it’s no longer part of the tie-beaker rules.
by Laaaaazzz on Nov 10, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish
I was a casual Penn State fan. Those people have it figured out.
by speedomike on Nov 9, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I'm glad I'm not a casual fan
If I was, the only 2 games of the season I would have attended or watched on TV were the 2 losses.
But instead, I have been to every game this year…each one consisting of 8 hours of driving (round trip)…and I wouldn’t trade that for anything (except maybe 2 wins instead of the losses). This is my team, win or lose.
"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno
by Horse N Buggy on Nov 9, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
This is the worst type of season to be a die hard. There were no great wins. Last year OSU offset Iowa. This year all of our wins were games we were supposed to win so I only felt relief. Our losses were just painful and maddening. If we don’t win out and then win a bowl against a decent opponent, this whole season will be a waste.
Angry Mike
by AngryMike on Nov 9, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
I don’t totally agree with that. Whooping up on Michigan was a lot of fun.
Plus, 10-2 and the Outback Bowl beats Matt Senneca every time. I think the last 5 years have allowed me to be more casual. I’ve seen some success and am not worried about us going into the dark years again.
by speedomike on Nov 9, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Indeed
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree....
The team is who we figured they were. We need an Oline plan and simple.
by jetskijoe on Nov 9, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And 10-2 beats the 9-4 frustration of '06 and '07 any day.
by Spats on Nov 10, 2009 8:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, I made it through the Dark Years, I can make it through this
We lost 50% of our starters from last year, there was going to be some growing pains.
by Screen Name 20 on Nov 10, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Matt Seneca
Too often did I see him drowning away his sorrows at the Den. At least he was a nice guy.
by The Mess on Nov 9, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely not a waste.
I rode it out through the dark years, and I’ll be at the game on Saturday. Flying all the way across the country to do it.
Oh by the way, Saturday’s game is Senior Day. This senior class is 37-12 so far in their career. Not a bad record to have.
"Is that right?" Joe answered. "That’s not a problem. But you’ve got a problem. You don’t relate to me. And that’s a big problem."
by dmoney350z on Nov 9, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
still good for top 10 in the country
I’d say that’s pretty good…
(I didn’t really do the math, as I didn’t find a site that ranks win % including 2009 yet, so I just looked at win % from 2006-2008 (were were 14th), and looked at the teams immediately around us, and “estimated”. At the very least we didn’t drop down any)
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys – win out. Sorry about Saturday. Not as sorry as I am about our Saturday, but still. I hate those guys at tOSU with words I’ve read shouldn’t be posted in these threads. Anyway, there are other teams that quit, and yours isn’t one of them.
by txhawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 4:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Tex
Appreciated. Good luck on Saturday. 14 point underdogs: Kirk is right where he wants to be!
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not quite
14 pt underdogs, down 10 in the 4th Qtr, and Stanzi coming off of 3 first half picks is where Kirk likes to be.
by RNF18 on Nov 9, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's true, that's very true
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You need to win out too
I’ll be rooting for you on Saturday.
"Is that right?" Joe answered. "That’s not a problem. But you’ve got a problem. You don’t relate to me. And that’s a big problem."
by dmoney350z on Nov 9, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beat them anyway!
Anything to keep OSU from winning the Big Ten!!!!!
Quote I heard on my way out of the stadium from an OSU fan:
" Stanzi got hurt? GOOD we’re going to beat them next week then!" THAT pi$$ed me off!!!!!
Good luck IOWA!!
by PawPrintz on Nov 10, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right back at you
Go and take your Dawson’s Creek back-up QB and make Ohio State your Joey. Or Pacey. Hell, I never watched that show, so I have no idea what makes sense here. All I know is that Charlie Conway was a major character.
To recap – go kick ass on Saturday.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
by IcersGuy on Nov 9, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So much for playing Pitt, or someone other than an SEC team in Florida.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." -Joe Paterno
by pslion on Nov 9, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We were never going to play Pitt because they're probably going to lose to Cincy
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This...
I’m at school at Pitt… and can I just say today sucked.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Nov 9, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tell me about it...
i had to hear all the pitt fans rag on PSU and JoePa. on DVE this morning they were talking about JoePa’s win record over the past decade and of course the Pitt fans were jumping on this. I asked them to talk to me when they have had more than one winning record and when the Big East actually becomes a relevent football division again.
"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"
by amandakt on Nov 9, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m still pulling for a Pitt-Temple match-up in the International Bowl.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
by IcersGuy on Nov 9, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if only...
Go Temple!!!
"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"
by amandakt on Nov 9, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm under the false belief that it's still a possibility
Here’s what I posted in the late game open thread on Saturday…
I’ve just had a thought
Let me preempt this by saying this is not meant to be an attack on Pitt. Nonetheless, let’s say Pitt loses their last two Big East games (Cincy and WVU – it’s feasible). If you’re feeling frisky, feel free to add in a loss to ND. Then, lets say Temple continues their winning ways and at the very least, loses in the MAC championship game to CMU. Again, it’s not unthinkable.
Are you still following me? Well, I’m sorry, but let’s continue anyway.
This means Temple is one of the top 3 teams in the MAC and Pitt falls to the 3/4 range of the Big East. This means that the International Bowl might get the chance to pick both Pitt and Temple to play in Toronto.
"But Icersguy – that won’t sell tickets!" It’s the International Bowl – it wasn’t going to sell tickets anyway. Hell, you need a passport to see that game! But I’d watch that game for the match-up of the two other PA teams alone.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
by IcersGuy on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope Temple finishes ahead of, say, Oklahoma or ND in the rankings
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
another feasable matchup
and the one currently being predicted by ESPN would be Rutgers. Both coaches could fight for the right to be the darkhorse candidate to replace JoePa in a few years.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. Today is no better, either.
I just find it striking how they all come out of the woodwork whenever they manage to eke out more than 6 wins, and their measuring stick is always Penn State’s record. I guess we ought to take that as a compliment. And, at least it only happens every 5 or 6 years. Well, their moment of gloating should be fleeting. They’ll have to face an actual offense this week, then again in two weeks.
by Spats on Nov 10, 2009 8:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
let's just hope ND's offense shows up for the game
i’m not exactly sure what happened last wkend, but from the texts i was getting from my friends mom, whatever it was, wasn’t pretty.
"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"
by amandakt on Nov 10, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry
But there’s no way I can root for ND over Pitt.
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That should be an interesting game.
May be bringing an old friend out of retirement.
Beat Indiana, I guess.
by jesse. on Nov 10, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Notre Dame losing to Navy last week makes me feel more comfortable with having them beat Pitt. On a grand scale, I’d rather see Notre Dame lose, but in terms of how the season is unfolding, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Panthers be brought down to earth by the Irish.
Though it would be better if ND beat Pitt, but still lost to Stanford to end up 8-4.
by Laaaaazzz on Nov 10, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I didn't think of Stanford
They probably can take down ND.
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GAH Walmart and Christmas
2 weeks ago I was doing some costume shopping so I head over to the “seasonal” aisles only to get lost in a Christmas Wonderland. I remember when I used to get annoyed at anything Christmas related before Thanksgiving. Then it crept up to Halloween. Now it was friggen BEFORE HALLOWEEN!!!! AAARRGGGG!!!!
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 9, 2009 5:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't remember where but
I saw an entire aisle dedicated to Christmas stuff on October 1st. Nearly a MONTH before Halloween. Soon it’ll start right after Labor Day.
by PSUisMyHeart on Nov 9, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there is a place here in Michigan
in a town called Frankenmuth, called Bronner’s CHRISTmas Wonderland. They operate year round (361 days a year), and have billboards up all over the state. So obnoxious.
This is their motto: “Enjoy CHRISTmas, It’s HIS birthday; Enjoy Life, It’s HIS way.”
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 9, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish i would have known all this
when i couldnt find a santa outfit for halloween…guess i’ll have to wait til next year to be a drunk mall santa
by t. woody on Nov 9, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going as Tressel next year. I can handle the sweatervest and glasses. But, I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to get used to the thumb up my ass.
by MainLion on Nov 9, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it is what it is...
I never bought into the preseason hype and rolled my eyes a bit when PSU got up as high as #5 or whatever they were for that brief week. I find it hard to believe that any team would improve year over year if it lost as many players as PSU did on both lines and its entire cast of WR’s. Granted PSU takes care of business they’ll be 10-2 and off to either Capital one or Outback, a great incoming class (on paper at least) still alot to look forward to.
by RudyWasOffsides on Nov 9, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
True...
and keep in mind it’s still possible to finish the year with the same exact record as last year’s team. 11-2 with a loss to one BCS team each year. I would take that in a heartbeat.
by jimbo2psu on Nov 10, 2009 8:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"with a loss to one BCS team each year"
well both of our losses last year were to BCS teams (I’m assuming you mean teams in the BCS, not just in a BCS conference), and there’s still a chance both of our losses this year could be to BCS teams.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
er, yeah, I'm retarded
just forget I said anything :-p
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im actually
really excited for psu basketball. I’m just saddened i won’t be able to go to the games (i’ll be located in Denver, or what my group of friends call PSU – west campus)
Meadville, PA born and raised.
by mikeissurreal on Nov 9, 2009 5:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I will not miss you casual fan
you don’t know how to spell doucheabag
you sit behind me at the game with tickets “some guy from work gave you” and ask who Graham Zug is
you thought Joe Paterno broke his leg in 2008 and didn’t realize he hurt his hip
you don’t understand why the picture of that guy who does not smile if freaking awesome
See you in September (maybe, unless they decide to go apple picking)
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...
by letsgopsu on Nov 9, 2009 5:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Long hiatus?
Even the start of football next year won’t be enough to bring back the casual fan I think. They’ll either be done by week 2, which is a real possibility if we get an ugly loss. A win though brings everyone back out…until they see our away Big10 schedule.
It's been a long, a long time coming
But I know a change gonna come, oh yes it will-Sam Cooke
by OMEGAMAN on Nov 9, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its not like we play any better against good big 10 teams at home
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Nov 10, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am beginning to realize why the older alums are less rowdy
with each passing year I become more “casual.” It has nothing to do with the losses and everything to do with realizing that other things like family are more important. Having said that, I watch every game and attend multiple games a year. The losses sting a little less than they did years ago but they still sting.
Having said that, like Rambler, I’ll be here all year!
WE ARE!!!
by RNF18 on Nov 9, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"That's why they play the games"
What a stupid saying. If I’m not mistaken, I think we were favored in every game this year. That’s not bad, considering all the people we were replacing. If only those people in Vegas really knew what they were doing … we’d be undefeated!
"I want to eat some dessert." - Brandon Ware
by The Man with One Black Shoe on Nov 9, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We weren't favored this week
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The last Vegas line I saw had us as 5 point favorites.
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2009 6:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
I thought it was the other way around.
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Got up to 6 right before the game.
Twitter: @scrappled
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Nov 9, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it did
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My pain runs deep
so let me say that standing there as the last couple seconds ticked off, wondering wtf just happened, I reminded myself that most of the time We Are Penn State and other times just Penn Tate.
by penntatefan on Nov 9, 2009 5:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hooray
I need to pick up an extra ticket to take my 5 year old son to the Indiana game. Now I’ll be able to get it for a few bucks. Also, I’d rather go to Tampa than watch the game on TV from Anaheim. Hooray?!
"I feel like I'm taking crazy pills! I invented the piano key necktie, I invented it!" - Mugatu
by Captain Hairdo on Nov 9, 2009 6:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Goodbye, casual Penn State students
We’ll really miss the 10,000 of you who complained you didn’t get season tickets, then didn’t bother to show up to any games that weren’t Iowa or Ohio State. I’m sure the extra hours of sleep every Saturday morning will allow you greater time to regret the sled dogs you hooked up with Friday night. Maybe the extra time will allow you more time to shower off the sweat of the guy who anonymously grinded you from behind at Indigo. Enjoy it!
Either way, thankfully you won’t have to bother showing up in the second quarter again this season. See you next fall – but only for Michigan!
by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 9, 2009 6:22 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
+1
and for the record, there were several thousand who never even showed up for the OSU game.
BSD
by Kevin HD on Nov 9, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
3 minutes into the second quarter and there were still huge blocks of seats empty in the freshman section.
GOOD TIMES!
by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 9, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How many empty seats this week?
"Wherever you go, Penn State will go with you. You are now a part of her. Her image will be cast in your image. Your reputation will become her reputation."
by noodlebucket on Nov 9, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whoa whoa whoa
what makes you think they’ll show up for michigan?
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Nov 10, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I get what everyone is saying but....
why should people not be disgusted and disappointed by this team?
We played cupcake after cupcake with an insane 8 game home schedule. I think a lot of fans are 1) burnt out if they went to all the home games and 2) disappointed by the terrible showing in the games we needed to win.
As a lifelong fan and alum, I will always root for Dear Old State but I can understand how some would be less than enthused about the rest of the season.
by Mr. Pennsylvania on Nov 9, 2009 6:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seems people only care if we:
A. WIN FOREVER ALWAYS
B. Play top ten teams
Everything else is pretty ‘meh’ for the casual fan.
As far as disappointed, yes. We had a chance at a Big Ten title, and blew it. Disgusted…. not sure who’s disgusted. If we’re sick of 10 win seasons and NYD bowls, then I think people need to get their head examined.
by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 9, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think a lot of people were thinking that the rebirth that happened would keep building and lead to an MNC. I can’t fault that, but I can fault the disappointment in having a solid, if not great, season year-in, year-out. If we go 10-2, 11-1 or so every year, I can certainly live with it. As long as we beat aOSU every other year.
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2009 6:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you are saying but I would trade a string of 9-3 seasons playing quality out of conference teams for that one 12-0 every few years where we know, without a doubt, that we are good enough to make the title game.
by Mr. Pennsylvania on Nov 9, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No way
There’s nothing that can top being the absolute best, even if it’s just once in a blue moon.
by The Mess on Nov 9, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't tell you how much I envy you
I wish we could say that. Ah well, 9-3 isn’t all bad.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Disgusted
Is a pretty strong word. One I save for things like this..
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/va-parents-accused-in-infants-heroin-overdose-110409
You know what I think part of the problem is? The game was basically the last part of an otherwise awesome weekend. Friends were in town, had a good time Friday night, tailgating was amazing, etc. But then the game happened. And that’s the taste that’s left in my mouth.
by speedomike on Nov 9, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The taste in your mouth
It wasn’t pancakes? I thought you liked pancakes.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 10, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yah I agree with that
Our team quit, twice, at home, in games they needed to win. They were out coached, out executed, out toughed and out worked, and they’d quit by halftime of both games. By way of contrast, in last year’s Rose Bowl we were clearly going to lose, but the team never stopped fighting and I was proud of the boys even in the loss.
I’m a little disgusted about this year and it’s hard to really care right now. I guess that makes me casual, but really it’s just a defense mechanism used to deal with our team’s two gutless performances. The end result will be fine – I think we’ll win out and go to a decent bowl. It’s just how full of quit we looked . . . it hurts so it’s only natural to tune out for a bit.
/shrug
Do I know what rhetorical means?
by NLseattle on Nov 9, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they quit.....
Out coached, out executed, manhandled, but they didn’t quit. Christ, they hardly got started!
It sucks, but OSU was a much better team on Saturday.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
by PaJoe on Nov 9, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Mike’s letter really reached you, huh?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 10, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who quit?
I didn’t see any quit last Saturday or against Iowa. I saw poor execution throughout both games but I saw a team that fought til the end both times. I can live with that.
by jimbo2psu on Nov 10, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the argument is the coaching staff quit when they punted in the 4th quarter down by 3 scores.
by Laaaaazzz on Nov 10, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
i was screaming at that point, but not at the players. between that and repeated 3-yard pass attempts…yeah.
"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who
by afields16 on Nov 10, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that's where I feel we went from Vanilla to French Vanilla
and just surrendered. That and not taking any risks when the conservative gameplan became futile. Sure, we may have lost “worse”, but we weren’t going to win that game once they took a 3 score lead unless we started taking some risks.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Five reasons people shouldn't be "disgusted" by this team:
1. These are student-athletes, most of whom have no realistic chance of going pro and play strictly for their scholarship and pride.
2. 2000
3. 2001
4. 2003
5. 2004
May no act of ours bring shame.
by mushdamma on Nov 9, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3 of those 4 years where while I was there. It was rough to be there, but I went to all but 1 game in my 4 years (2 at Altoona).
by cmdpsu15 on Nov 9, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This ^
but I might add great times!
We are not normal. We are legends.
by NittanyAlum02 on Nov 9, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you and me both, 2001-2004
those 4 years turned me into the alcoholic I am now
For the glory
by lionalum05 on Nov 10, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep I was there then too
We’re a different, perhaps more jaded, group of alumni football fans. The only game I missed was Toledo in 2000 lol.
Those years were brutal, but at least we got to see Joe take the record in that fantastic Ohio State game!
Do I know what rhetorical means?
by NLseattle on Nov 10, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2002
While technically a winner was still a clunker.
by MainLion on Nov 9, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, 2002 actually kind of sucked.
Twitter: @scrappled
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Nov 9, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For those of us in school from 2000 – 2003…well, we’ve got to hold on to whatever we’ve got! Sometimes I wish I would have missed a few games….
by chriseay on Nov 10, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still look at 2002 as the season that was robbed from us
Of course if the team was so good they never should have put themselves in a position where the refs could bungle a call that would hand us a loss. That should have been at least an 11 win season, though (assuming we could make short FGs)
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ladies and Gentleman....
Your Casual Fan.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 10, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
eh, he makes a decent point
the only 2 games worth anything on the schedule this year were Iowa and OSU, and we lost them both. The rest of our in conference schedule has mostly been bad, and our OOC was downright laughable. Still support the team, but still have a bad taste in my mouth.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm playing along
These Casual Fan letters are meant to be divisive, right? Similar to the student attendance chastisements and the ’I’m an alum, you’re not’ angles. I mean, we did lose, so let’s take it another step further and fight amongst ourselves in the living room, right? Mostly kidding, tho historically I’ve been serious in my distaste for these. This one feels better as an attack on the Oh Noes crowd, and this cat responded to the bell, fit the bill, cliche, cliche etc something.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 10, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Intent of the Casual Fan Letters
They’re just my way of calling out the fans and asking them if they are going to believe or give up. I don’t really intend for these letters to be divisive, but they seem to often come out that way. In my book, anyone who spends time reading a PSU blog when they should be working isn’t a casual fan. So these letters aren’t really meant to be addressed to the readers of BSD.
The inspiration for these letters actually came from some relatives of mine. They had season tickets and went to the game, but if you pressed them they probably couldn’t name ten players on the team. It took them two years to realize Jerry Sandusky retired. The only reason they went to the games were to keep up with their friends who were die hard PSU fans. When their friends decided to start tailgating in style and buy a motor home, my relatives went out and bought a motor home. They were the people sucking down their last cigarette before they go up to their seat, and the people who left halfway through to second quarter to go suck down another one because they couldn’t wait until halftime.
It always bugged me when I came out of the stadium after a loss feeling like I had been kicked in the stomach. I’d go back to their tailgate party and they were more worried about where they left the cheese and crackers instead of wondering how the hell this team was going to win anything with Matt Senecca at quarterback.
So these posts should always be taken as tongue-in-cheek. It’s just me poking a little fun at the Penn State fans who don’t die a little bit after every loss like I do.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Nov 10, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
um, if they want to just go and tailgate, that's cool
I’ll take their tickets and use them for them :-D
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Got it
I did really enjoy the Walmart midnight sale on apathy.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather lose to good teams than lose to bad teams while beating a good team. YMMV.
by Laaaaazzz on Nov 10, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also something to take into consideration
is the fact that for tens of thousands of the fans that show up, getting to the game is quite an undertaking that consumes a lot of time and resources. Take me for instance, I went to 4 games this year, including the NW game in Chicago. I had originally made plans to go to the IU game, but to be honest, I’m really not that interested in spending the time or money to get up there from DC when I can watch it from the comforts of my home. I think the casual fans should be given some slack.
I think what angers/disappoints/ most “casual” fans (and the diehards too) is the lack of accountability and lack of change within the staff/program. The same weaknesses seem to plague the team year in and year out. At most programs they’d be addressed. At Penn State we get a healthy dose of “ehhhhh, you don’t know what you’re talking about” and “ehhhh, I’ll have to take a look at some things”. It’s frustrating as fuck.
by brd119 on Nov 10, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Casual Penn State Fans,
It actually it gets pretty funny and hilarious during the off season here. Reading Rambler fanshots are killer and so are Mr. Rosewater’s reactions to them.
Oh, and there are lots and lots of polls (no sex jokes, please).
Bookmark this site and visit us at least once or twice a week. You might learn something important about the insights and miracles humanity has to offer.
Sincerely,
Mr. Rosewater
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 9, 2009 6:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My best work is always in the off season
Also, your reaction was bullsh** and I can’t believe they let you get away with it, you glory hound.
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mondesi's House
Could someone please help me flame over ther?
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Nov 9, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Naw, I'll take the OSU troll approach
I’ll meet ya over there after they lose to Cincy.
Holla back.
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No
After they lose to Cincy we have to completely ignore them to make them feel irrelevent, but now that they’re actually relevent we should probably start talking. Look at my fanshot.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Nov 9, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha droids are untrustworthy
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
I really am completely ambivalent to Pitt. They’re in that giant pool of teams that, if we want to play them, okay. But they get no more special treatment than the Maryland’s or the Boston College’s or the Virginia’s. At this point for me, flaming them would be like flaming Arizona State fans.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
by IcersGuy on Nov 9, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Which is why I’m pretending to argue with “Adam” on Mondesi’s House. Altho I have a feeling he won’t respond. :(
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's been done.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Nov 9, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We should just flood the thread...
…with inside jokes.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Nov 9, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Top that
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Done Sir
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Nov 9, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just finished reading your exchange on Mondesi's House
Now cleaning coffee off screen and keyboard. Friggin’ hilarious! Now for the love of God, will you please comment on the Pens or the Steelers? Especially when the original post is about Pitt and Penn State!?
by Spats on Nov 10, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What you don't think that'd be fun too?
In all seriousness though…
There’s nothing more annoying to me than a fan who doesn’t know his place, and that’s the definition of a Pitt fan. Everything they do, they look for a way to make it a one up on us, and it just drives me beserk. Even on our worst day, like Saturday, we’re still a becon of what college football is all about, from the uniforms, to the band, to the fans.
Pitt’s just a college team in a half-empty football stadium.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Nov 9, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m assuming that’s a Pitt site based on the responses here. In that regard, I wouldn’t be so bold if I were a Pitt fan — they have 3 very losable games to end the season and could easily look very silly if they are flaming PSU fans right now. I’m not saying they’ll lose all three (or any really) but it’s not like they lost to a powerhouse in NC State.
by Laaaaazzz on Nov 9, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Next Season?
Don’t kid yourself, why come back next season?
For the Newsome era to begin? Ohhh, goodie.
Sorry, but the offense will still be unimaginative, while painfully conversative, in games that matter. Which thanks to scheduling there are no more than 3 per year.
The special teams will still be an embarrassment in all facets. Kick return, Fair Catch Signaling (aka Punt Return), and Punting.
I know, how about more Tom Bradley defense? Bend but not break, until you break.
Let’s go Penn State Casual. We’re not fans because fan is short for fanatic, and fanatics suck down the kool aid, and when the going gets tough, they simply lower their expectations.
Penn State Casual should return when the offense shows an ability to score in games that matter, the Special Teams units look like they’ve actually been coached and the program gives Special Teams the attention it deserves, the defense is an aggressor, and the schedule has less than a half dozen laughers.
See you when the current regime resigns. (or sadly, but more likely, dies)
by NittanyBadger on Nov 9, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BOOOOO
"Is that right?" Joe answered. "That’s not a problem. But you’ve got a problem. You don’t relate to me. And that’s a big problem."
by dmoney350z on Nov 9, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This Would Get An Un-Rec
Were it possible.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Nov 9, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yawn
Funny. I don’t remember you from PennLive.
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yawn
yawn, Provocative Fail, yawn.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 10, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn You
I was considering dropping my IU tickets. The three hour drive (starting at 8 a.m., nonetheless) after a tough week just seemed too much.
I’ll be there on Saturday, likely surrounded by folks who took advantage of the others in my section selling their seasons.
But I’ll be there. As I was all season. Thanks to BSD, nonetheless.
by MainLion on Nov 9, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not really related to this post, but...
When do they announce the times for games the following week and what network is on? I’m trying to figure out plans for the Michigan State game and wish they would announce whether we’ll be ABC worthy or a Noon BTN game.
by mundyscorner99 on Nov 9, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
3:30 on ABC
Just announced today.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Nov 9, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent
Thanks for the info!
by mundyscorner99 on Nov 9, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Now!
I never was really into this season 100% to begin with, blame it on the shitty schedule and the fact we looked like garbage against the two ranked teams we faced (and at home nonetheless). So excuse me if I’ve already shifted my focus to basketball season.
And another thing: They need to revert back to the old student ticketing system where students can sell their paper tickets for however much they want. That way, you won’t see half-empty student sections any longer.
http://www.happyhourvalley.com/
by Happy Hour Valley on Nov 9, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF KOOLAID DRINKERS
WE’RE TOTALLY GOING 5-7 NEXT YEAR.
ABANDON ALL HOPE. YE WHO ENTER HERE.
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 11:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No way...
There’s no way you’re stirring up controversy. haha.
by Pentimental on Nov 9, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Casual Fan?
Hey, I’m trying to figure out if I am a casual fan. I graduated on a year that we won the national championship *(Blackledge/Warner). On Halloween weekend, I joined my daughter at Senior Night at her high school football game and danced as Herman Munster to Thriller with her high school dance team at halftime. I got home at 11pm, and was up at 6am to coach my son’s Pee Wee team in their playoff game. They won that and their Super Bowl game. By 11:50am, my daughter and I were on (in, haha) a plane to ORD to try to make the 3:30 kickoff in Evanston. We got to Chicago, rented a car, got to the game and watched a lackluster start turn into a nice win. Three football games in two states and three different stadiums in less than 24 hours My daughter is applying to State and trying to get on the Lionettes. Then, I Tivo the tPOSu game due to a prior commitment, admonishing anyone I meet who may tip the score. I get home after midnight, crack open a cold one, start the game and am filled with overwhelming excitement that turned into hopes for Paternovers, then fear and trepidation. A 48 year old man almost had a tear well up in his eye over a football game. Is that a casual fan?
This was an awesome game!
by Pentimental on Nov 9, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Um, no?
I’d say no.
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You better check yo self
And pick up your game, dude. Soundin a lit-tle too casual with this post.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 10, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rambler, FYI
You’ve been called out at Mondesi’s house, and not by me.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Nov 9, 2009 11:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"Michaela" is wrong
FWIW. Technically, I never said I was a Pitt fan.
Regardless, I was very, very, very bored and will find something better to do than posting references on a Pitt blog.
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Being a semi-troll once in a while is just too much fun to pass up, you know?
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, whatever floats your boat man
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Nov 9, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was fun while it lasted.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Nov 9, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, I saw you asking if anyone else was going to post over there...
Yes. Just not in a serious manner.
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do we post here in a serious manner?
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Nov 10, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BACON!
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I swear to Zug I barely post here in a serious manner hands down, most of the time
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Nov 10, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know, everybody trolls people, flames people, gives them a virus, whatever.
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 10, 2009 7:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Funny....
I don’t see many casual fans on BSD. I’d say most of the posters here post daily.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 10, 2009 7:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
well, they blocked facebook at work
so i have to do something with my time. ;o)
"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"
by amandakt on Nov 10, 2009 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't facebook?
Man I’m out of touch.
Beat Indiana, I guess.
by jesse. on Nov 10, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
blocked facebook at work for me too!
They actually blocked most blogs but for some reason, which i’m in no way complaining about, BSD still works.
by MGPardoePSU on Nov 10, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Google Reader man
Should give you access to any blogs you want. Google home page, links at the top, click on “more,” hit “Reader,” (you need a g-mail account) add subscriptions, and read any blogs/twitters you want. It’s beautiful.
"He's a beast. But so am I. So let the beasting begin."
by PSUtopia on Nov 10, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nice endorsement
finally signed up.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 10, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Penn State is the Ike to my Tina
except Tina eventually left. I’m not so fortunate. UGH.
by brd119 on Nov 10, 2009 9:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
reminds me of an Everlast line
I’m too cold to hold, too hot not to burn ya
Don’t stick your nose in bizness that don’t concern ya
I might have to flip and trip like Ike Turn-a
You’re too old for schoolin, boy, when I’m gonna learn ya?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 10, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Casual bloggers
Just because we get smeared like a dead fly on an old shoe we don’t get an Indiana photoshop thread. Come on, we are talking Corso here.
No. 2—You are so lucky he barely fumbled the ball PSU fans.
by psu on Nov 10, 2009 5:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
fine I will do it myself
No. 2—You are so lucky he barely fumbled the ball PSU fans.
by psu on Nov 10, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no hate left to give to Indiana. I left it all in Beaver Stadium on Saturday
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...
by letsgopsu on Nov 10, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you are just another one of those casual haters, aren't you?
hopefully our team doesn’t take the same attitude, or we may have a rought time this next Saturday
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I was wondering if I was going to have to start spoon feeding you guys.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Nov 11, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will be there Saturday. I am just too depressed to hate. Is it worse to be a casual fan or a casual hater?
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...
by letsgopsu on Nov 10, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dude! All you semi-trolls
and non-casual fans…especially the lawyers…do some more trolling over at BlockO-doucheabag’s post on Bleacher Report where he totally calls out BSD and trashes it. And I really would like to see one of you lawyers with balls to send him a C&D on the photoshop stealing.
by PSUWifey on Nov 10, 2009 10:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Give me a link.
Beat Indiana, I guess.
by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/286391-penn-state-fans-sorry-but-most-of-you-deserve-this
I think Mike handled it pretty well, but it’s a shame he had to defend himself at all.
by PSUWifey on Nov 11, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By the time I got there...
The story was so buried, I hesitated to give the kid the satisfaction of more comments.
Suffice to say, what that guy managed to get posted over there barely qualifies as a halfway decent fanpost here. It seems that a lot of would be pundits have decided to try and build a reputation for cleverness and intellegence in the comment section around here.
Price of fame maybe?
Beat Indiana, I guess.
by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I tried it
And it sucked. Like bleacher usually does. Man, this week reminded me how much I used to hate (and not the cool, fun hate of Hate Week hate) chat rooms and message boards back in the day. I get sucked in reading the tripe and just feel shoddy and yucky and….dumber.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OSU Game
As a season ticket holder for more than 30 years I watched the game in disbelief of what I was seeing. It remeinded me of the Michigan game a few years ago where Anthony the poorly developed highly talented quarterback and PSU were made to look like fools. On Saturday that was the most poorly prepared team I have seen at Penn State. I really enjoy the game of football when two teams are talented and prepared and go at each other. This team is not prepared to play football. Shame on the coaching staff. I don’t mind losing a good game but I hate seeing a Penn State team not prepared to play a game. I think PPSU will get a minor bowl against a hyped up team like Notre Dame and we will hear all the BS about legendary coaches and storied programs etc etc. Two poorly prepared teams playing in a minor bowl isn’t what I want to see. It is damaging to the Penn State image.
by IceLion on Nov 11, 2009 4:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I said the same thing
I thought it was the worst beatdown at Beaver Stadium since either the last OSU game or the Michigan game in 2006.
JoePa in '09
by JGuiher on Nov 12, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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