When can Michigan fire RichRod?

If you don't feel like reading the whole article, here's the article defined: "Where it is in black and white: acts of God nonwithstanding, Michigan has to go 8-5 next year or Rodriguez should be cut loose. 7-6 might be okay if the bowl matchup is obviously bad."

3 months ago ReadingRambler 12 comments 0 recs |

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hahaha, I love it

I know we just lost, and although I myself thought we were going 10-2 at the beginning of the season, was beginning to drink the cool-aid and think we could go 11-1 and make the BCS, but this season is by no means a failure. Anyway, my point is, remember all that hype after they started their season 4-0, and beat OMG NOTRE DAME IS BACK JIMMAH FOR HEISMANNNN? And now they’ve gone into a death spiral and lost to the two worst teams in the B10? I totally feel like Cartman right now licking Scott Tennerman’s sweet, sweet, salty tears.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 9, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Forcier needs to turn into Pat White

And quick.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wrote a couple of posts @ Maize-N-Brew

The tennor of which was essentially, you know that it’s his fault you have a freshman quarterback? The premise of his support seems to be that once he gets “his guys” he’d be okay.

But in all seriousness, if you think our coaches are one trick ponies, this guy gay Ryan Mallet off, so he could ultimately wind up with Nick Sheridan. Oh, and Justin Boren too.

You would think that a coach getting paid like 2 million a year might figure out how to win with the talent he has, rather than blowing everything up to fit his one “system”.

Of course, they don’t agree, so, good for us I suppose.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 10, 2009 12:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Gay was totally a typo. Ooops

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 10, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Or not.

by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 11, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Are we postive Mallett was run off?

Or Boren?

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They weren't

Mallet left b/c he didn’t feel like he would make it to the NFL playing in RR’s system. RR tried to keep him, said the scheme can be more passing oriented depending on the talent (Shaun King, etc.), but ultimately Mallet made his choice. FWIW, he was not very well liked by Carr or most of the team, and almost transferred in year 1. He wanted to be closer to home.

Boren left b/c Michigan would not offer his little bro a scholarship, and his dad (as a UM legacy) got bitter about it. So, OSU offered little bro, basically with the understanding that big bro would transfer. Big Ten schools can’t offer scholarships to fellow Big Ten transfers, so that was a way for OSU to effectively make the family whole (and then some) for the tuition cost.

But “RR ran them off” is a much better story.

by Wlvrn99 on Nov 10, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well

He was recruiting Pryor full steam ahead at the time Mallet transfered, he could see the writing on the wall.

“They were unliked, and not Michigan men”, is certainly a much better story from your end. Except, why would I make it up? I’m not the one that has a football program colapsing around me, and has two pretty talented players being highly successful at other schools. Seems that the Rodriguez version of the story comes with more of a motivation to spin.

It doesn’t change the point, whatever talent problems you folks have can be attributed to your coach and his unwillingness to change his system for anyone or anybody. For a few millon bucks, shouldn’t he have to at least change his playbook?

And it’s the spread. Everybody runs the spread. It ain’t rocket science, high school teams use it. Penn State was able to implement it and improve, with Jay Paterno for god’s sake.

Tell me that you think it’s totally impossible that this guy swindled you.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 10, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It's not spin

Carr did the old “here are your transfer papers, kid” deal with Mallet during year 1. There were stories about him transferring to Arkansas even before he played a game. He did not want to be at Michigan. When a new coach with a reputation for running QBs came in, he and his dad said, we’re leaving. I understand it, and don’t fault them at all. Similar move to Pat Devlin, really.

Everything RR said during that time was along the lines of, we can adapt our system to fit your strengths. I know you want to shape the facts to portray RR in the worst possible light, but there are much lower-hanging fruit than the tired “RR ran off Mallet and Boren” theme.

by Wlvrn99 on Nov 10, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Obviously you've seen Michigan play the last two years

He’s cast himself in his own light that requires no spin from me whatsoever. Not everybody how criticizes the guy has an agenda. He does a lot of things that leave him open to criticism. Circle the wagons all you want, but this is true.

More to the point, it seems that what you’ve bought for your millions of dollars and two crappy seasons is a coach that only knows one way to run an offense. Moreover, there is nothing particularly special about that offense at this point. From and x’s and o’s prospecitve how much better is a Rich Rodriguez spread then anybody else’s? Not appreciably is my guess.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 10, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Talent

I keep hearing the “Carr left the cupboard bare” excuse (eerily similar to the “Ty Willingham screwed us” mantra). Even if true and accounting for some attrition, albeit in key spots, I find it impossible to believe that Lloyd Carr’s final few recruiting classes were so utterly devoid of talent that RR can’t put something together to be better than what is likely to be a 1-7 conference record. Really?? Lloyd Carr out-recruited Indiana and that’s it?

by Nittany Lawyer on Nov 10, 2009 1:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs