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Penn State Hoops: Lucky And Fresh


Via the PennStateHoops.com discussion forum, exclusive footage of Talor Battle's second half performance last night in Charlottesville:


 

Meanwhile, noted Big Ten and college basketball expert John Gasaway revisits a favorite topic of his (and ours):

Star-divide

DeChellis is virtually unrivalled in the field of achieving wins in spite of a silly and extraneous factor like how well your team scores points and prevents scoring. Behold:

Exceeding expectations to an extreme degree 
Largest differences between per-possession performance and W-L
Conference games only: ACC, Big 12, Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, SEC, 2006-09

                      Mean   Actual
Penn St., 2008      3-15    7-11
Oregon St., 2009      3-15    7-11
Kentucky, 2008        8-8    12-4
Texas Tech, 2008      4-12     7-9
Villanova, 2006       11-5    14-2
Georgia, 2009         0-16    3-13
Missouri, 2006        2-14    5-11
Alabama, 2007         4-12    7-9
St. John’s, 2007      4-12    7-9  
Penn St., 2009      7-11   10-8
Penn St., 2006      4-12   6-10

Clearly you don’t want to get in a close game if you’re playing against DeChellis. Only thing: Don’t call it luck. I now prefer the more precise term "degree of DeChellis," which, I suppose, comprises my own modest stab at coming up with something as succinct and accurate as UHB.

 

What's behind this PSU phenomenon?  As Gasaway wrote late in the 08-09 season, "Penn State (Actual: 8-7; Predicted: 6-9) . The Nittany Lions popping up here is actually quite interesting. Last year Ed DeChellis' team posted the single most fortunate conference season out of the 219 complete league records in this particular vault. (PSU went 7-11 in the Big Ten in 2008, with a scoring margin that would more customarily give you a 3-15 record.) Meaning Penn State has been lucky now two years in a row. How can this be? Take it away Ken Pomeroy: 'When you have 340-some D-I teams, you would expect about a fourth of them to be lucky two years running.' The Nittany Lions are very much in the vanguard of that fourth. Either that or Talor Battle really is Robert Horry. You make the call."

Robert Horry?  Maybe that explains the haircut.

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No way

If I have to listen to another year of “Why do they call it a challenge?” coverage from ESPN, I’ll go crazy.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Battle

loves to keep the haircut fresh…

I’m hoping senior year it is the Brandon Jennings High Top Fade

Big Ten Titles for everyone.

by QBsneak12 on Dec 1, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He stole it from another Jennings...

PSU’s Michael Jennings was the original “Q-Tip” with his Kid n Play high top fade back in the early 90s.

I’ll fondly remember him as the only Penn State player to dunk regularly in the early years of the Big Ten.

He also kept us in the infamous “LIckliter” game against #1 Indiana by taking over the point and scoring 22 points with 10 rebounds and 7 assists…

by jtw126 on Dec 2, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Presenting the Fresh Prince basketball strategy guide to take PSU basketball to an elite level

Defense: 1-4 zone. Very aggresive set. 1 guard guards his opposite. Rest of the team stands in a irregular line to dare the offense to take 3s. Crash the boards!

Offense: Weird high post thing. Center acts like he’s getting in postition under the basket…when he’s standing near the 3 point line. Everyone else stands around while the SF (Will Smith) does this really cool thing with the ball where he dribbles it and does some other things. Not really all that different from Penn State’s “waste the shot clock, then pass to Battle and hope he does the Sam Cassell dance” offense. We can modify.

Keys: Recruit really great “athlete” (cough cough) from Philly and play against predominantly white teams. We could kick Wisconsin’s ass.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Did you see the missed shot the one dude from the green team took?

Did they even bother getting actors who had any clue what basketball was? They’re making the Fresh Prince look like freaking Wilt Chamberlin…..

by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 1, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Look at Carlton run point!

Was that the same episode where will choked at the end of the game with the Georgetown coach in the stands?

by speedomike on Dec 1, 2009 5:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I missed the game

Sounds like it was another classic performance?

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Dec 1, 2009 6:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Up by a lot with a little time...

Other team erupts in 3 pt shooting… Battle teases them with missed FTs, then makes enough FTs to force a 3 pter with 5 seconds left and we win….

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Dec 1, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is this analysis a fancy way of saying

We tend to suck rocks at the end of games and let people back in?

by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 1, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We're like Hannibal at the Trebia

We let them think we’re losing….and then we send in the cavalry!

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 1, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

tangent

they need a blockbuster movie about Hannibal with CGI elephants and stuff.

The historical one, Not the Anthony Hopkins serial killer one.

RR, write a screenplay now.

by Cairo on Dec 2, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Was he married? I don't recall

Cause we’ve gotta have a sex scene to keep the layman interested.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's a "when we're bad, we're REALLY bad" thing.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Dec 1, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Expect the worst

and the best seems so much sweeter

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Dec 2, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

TWSS

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"The only cohesive passing game in the whole damn conference was in Happy Valley." -Rivalry Esq.

by BSmith717 on Dec 2, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bingo

When we lose, it’s not by 3, it’s by 30. Skews the statistics.

by PSU Mudder on Dec 2, 2009 7:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Some other fallacies I'd like to point out in the Fresh Prince video:

What’s the length of the court? 30 feet? Looks like an elementary school gym that doubles as a cafeteria. You also gotta love how they tried to lay down an NBA-length 3-point line for a HIGH SCHOOL game!

http://www.happyhourvalley.com/

by Happy Hour Valley on Dec 2, 2009 2:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I need to check the rule book,

but I don’t think you can catch the opening tip mid-air and shoot it from half court. I think another player needs to gain possession first.

by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 2, 2009 6:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also,

I’m not sure how the away team expects to compete with the fresh prince with only an 8 man roster.

"The only cohesive passing game in the whole damn conference was in Happy Valley." -Rivalry Esq.

by BSmith717 on Dec 2, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm mostly curious about what period there are 6 seconds left in

I don’t recognize _`i

And the other team with 0 fouls…pretty impressive.

by The JuggerNitt on Dec 2, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Also noted:

There were 10 players on the court for the jump ball, but I’m pretty sure they played 4 on 4 the rest of the way. Maybe someone fouled out, and the coaches pulled a Norman Dale and said, “my team is on the floor” instead of putting in a 5th?

by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 2, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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