Hello from an LSU fan.
I hope we get to be matched up against Penn State in the Cap One Bowl. The Nittany Lions have always been one of my favorite college football teams (outside the Tigers of course).
Sorry ya'll are gonna have to lose but someone has to be our annual sacraficial bowl victim.
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Sacrificial bowl victim? Let’s look at the scoreboard.
LSU’s Bowl wins = 21
JOE PATERNO’S Bowl wins = 23
Weak. I hope we do play the Tigers.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Piling on
How did LSU do against PSU in the 1974 Orange Bowl?
Don’t bother looking it up. They lost 16-9.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
and let's keep in mind that even though this was 35 years ago it is relevant as JoePa was the coach.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
I tried it and it sucked....
all I saw was Ryan Perrilloux sitting on the bench.
by RudyWasOffsides on Dec 2, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ryan Perrilloux
I tried it too, but all I got was a failed a drug test, a missed team meeting, a skipped class and I even ended up being a "person of interest" in a Federal investigation
by Bob Sacamano on Dec 3, 2009 8:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but you have to look at the current century
:)
by methuselah on Dec 2, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ohmagosh
A joke about Paterno’s age. How original.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Dec 2, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Don't think he was making a paterno's age joke
I think he was just saying LSU’s been good in the post season lately.
Brilliant
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Help me out here...
Sorry ya’ll are gonna have to lose but someone has to be our annual sacraficial bowl victim.
When was the last time LSU played a Big Ten team that wasn’t Ohio State (no one takes them seriously anyway)? It was Iowa in 2005. Was the above attitude the attitude you had in December, 2004? You know, before a Big Ten defense with tough linebackers and a great defensive taclke made your runningbacks scared to go up the middle.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
"taclke"
My, that’s bad spelling. Like that of an SEC football player.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuhR-i1shcI&feature=related
Mmmm…. your tears taste like rainbows!
Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Dec 4, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
No jokes about Paterno's age from me
I think you misinterpreted my post. I wasn’t joking about Paterno’s age at all. I’m a big fan of his.
I was responding to the person who brought up the 1974 Orange bowl and the overall bowl victory counts of the two teams.
Recent history = LSU winning their bowl games pretty convincingly the last few years. Not sure about the Nitany Lions.
I didn't know you could specify a starting point in a YouTube clip
When you click on gumbercules link, it jumps 4 minutes and 52 seconds into the clip.
Born and raised in the shadow of Mount Nittany
"Not sure about the Nitany Lions"
We’re 5-3 against the SEC since joining the Big Ten. We only lose by double digits when going up against a USC squad that was the best team in the country.
SEC speed doesn’t usually matter when we’re involved.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Recent history
PSU has won three of their last four.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Dec 2, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
God bless Tennessee and their aversion to tackling Tony Hunt.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
just a FYI
it wasn’t the bowl record of the 2 teams. It was the bowl record of your team vs the bowl record of our coach
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah.....
I didn’t think you were being a jackass. I know a lot of LSU fans and to a person they are fun and don’t take things too seriously. One might say, the anti-Florida fan.
Your chicks are smokin hot too. I hope we get matched up becasue I’m definitely going if the Lions are in Orlando.
"When is the last time you heard a CEO say, "You know, I am REALLY glad we lowered our standards. Its really worked out well for us"."
Colin Cowherd
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
No one said he was being a jackass
But Penn State doesn’t play sacrificial victim to anyone but USC (evidently, I guess).
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
It was obvious.....
to me the guy was joking around and everybody gets all riled up.
I’d hate to think people from another school come here and their first exposure to other Penn State fans is overly sensitive trash talking. That’s what my asshole Florida buddy would do and that’s why people hate Florida.
"When is the last time you heard a CEO say, "You know, I am REALLY glad we lowered our standards. Its really worked out well for us"."
Colin Cowherd
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
Yeah seriously
I don’t understand it… just some friendly banter, folks.
Welcome, methuselah, I certainly hope we play LSU as well. If it were to happen, it should be an awesome game.
As far as I’m concerned, we’re just returning the favor.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
eh, he came in with "you will lose to us"
we replied with “scoreboard”
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
I tried it and it sucked...
It was like a football coach calling for a spike with :01 left on the clock
by AdamShell on Dec 2, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This is what I'm talking about!
Screw the BCS! Bring on LSU!
And by the way, tell your coach he needs to look at a different clock!

methuselah
I want to play Pitt. But if we don’t, Ill be more than happy to face you. Maybe we can share a sprite.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
hahaha, I finally got you on record
You should have been more careful, Fugi.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
What would make you think I didn't?
Of course I want to play them.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
Except for that one time when you said you didn't?
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Regular season?
No. Nothing more than a home and home once IF they keep it up.
But I want them in this bowl game.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
Whatever
I’m pretty sure you said something different before.
Semantics.
cheers
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
I think he was fairly consistent
his “I don’t want to play Pitt” comments earlier during your guys back and forth a few days ago, to me, seemed more about a regular season series, and not about this bowl game. He’s definitely had a hard on for a bowl matchup against Pitt, though.
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
I really hate Kyle Singler
I don’t know why I’m posting this here, but I am.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
Gingers...
GROSS
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
In all seriousness, methuselah
What’s your opinion of your defensive line?
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
Our D line
Our defensive line has been kind of disappointng to me this year.. They don’t really have the one stand out stud like they traditionally have. They are usually pretty tough against the run but the really good O lines we’ve faced like Bama and Florida and even Ole Miss have opened some holes in our line.
And the coaches have a tendancy to rush 3 and drop everyone into coverage on 3rd down. We’ve given up a lot of 3rd and longs this year. (It even has a name – 3rd and Chavis, after our D Coordinator).
Oh – and guys, don’t worry about a little trash talking. The LSU site I post on gets a lot rougher than this.
Allrite, thanks a lot
I’ll post about our o-line here after basketball is over
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Ok
I’ll leave it to someone like jtothep to actually post about the skills of individual players (is it spelled Stankewitch?), I’m a little ignorant there, but the gist is that our offensive line has been good enough to get us to 10 wins, bad enough to get manhandled by Iowa and Ohio State.
If I were LSU, I would blitz, blitz, blitz. I don’t trust our ability to pick up fast blitzers or to throw quick passes to neutralize the blitzing.
How good is your secondary, and corners in particular? Our WRs were shut down by Iowa and Ohio State’s bump and run coverage.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 3, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
traffic cone and stop sign and scarecrow and turnstile and banana peel
those are their names
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
I hear TigerDroppings went nuclear after the Miles clock/spike fiasco.
I’m looking forward to a matchup with LSU. Fun people, fun SEC school to passively root for.
Twitter: @scrappled
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Dec 3, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Plus!
Sexy! Don’t forget that.
/smartass off….I do agree. Tiger Stadium would be a fun, fun place to see a game sometime. I’m bummed, tho, my wife’s Baton Rouge friends just split up, so my connection there kinda disappeared.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Who gets you guys in the divorce?....
Just because they split up doesn’t mean you can’t use them horribly for free lodging.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Yeah
She was one of my wife’s bridesmaids, and I only met the husband through both of them. So I lose him in the divorce.
I could probably score him back if we both traveled to the bowl game and our teams are opponents, but I don’t think either of us can make a long distance relationship work.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
your wife's bridesmaid sounds hot
stay with her
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
is there any way we could get Andy Reid as a guest coach if we face off against LSU in the Cap One?
Maybe we could pair up Lou Holtz and JoePa to do the announcing/commentary.
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Rambler
Maybe we should start a thread.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
Gimme a minute
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2009/12/2/1181795/open-thread
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Secondary
Our secondary is very good. Chad Jones and Patrick Peterson are excellent athletes and the remaining DB’s are pretty good. Jai Eugene is great against the run from the secondary. Also, Chavis has gone with fast linebackers that help out in pass coverage a lot.
They can give up some underneath stuff, especially if the opposing QB is not feeling pressure from the d-line and/or blitzing. But overall they are one of the strong points of the team.
Ohio State beat us
by using press coverage on the recievers and blowing up our offensive line with their front four. Do that, you’ll win. If you can’t do that, Penn State has the best skill players you’ve never heard of. In two losses it was quarterback pressure and bad special teams play that killed us.
Other than that, we have 10 blow out wins. If you can’t disrupt Clark, it will be a long day. Believe it or not, Penn State’s offense is simply too balanced run/pass and too skilled to hang with for four quarters. Most of our games have been close at halftime, followed up by second half romps.
You can forget about having superior southern speed. This team can run with anybody in the country. It’s been that way for about 20 years now, but there is something about the uniforms that throws everybody for a loop.
The key to beating our defense is also very simple. You have to have to protect your quarterback, and he has to be able to consistently complete downfield passes against a zone scheme. You won’t be running the ball. Your screen pass will get blown up. Any talent advantage LSU might have gets made up for by discipline and tackling. I can’t remember our secondary blowing two coverages all year.
All things being equal, there is no way in hell Les Miles outcoaches Joe Paterno in a bowl game.
I say let's rock the Orange Bowl, because nobody will remember in five years anyway.
by jesse. on Dec 3, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
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LSU can play man to man and pressure the QB. The problem comes when they try to mix it up and play zone and rush 3 or 4. They are pretty good against the run but if teams make space with a spread type offense the can develop some big holes.
on offense our O line giving time to our QB is not one of our strong points. Nor is our QB stepping up into the pocket and getting rid of the ball.
i admit that I’m skeptical of Big 10 teams claimaing they have the speed to keep up with SEC teams. Ohio State said much the same thing prior to our game with them. I’ll have to take a wait and see on that one.
And I don’t think you’ll find too many Tiger fans claiming les Miles is any type of game day coaching guru. But, to be honest (if i can say this without rufflling too many feathers), I’m kinda unsure of how much hands on coaching Paterno has been doing for Penn State.
i admit that I’m skeptical of Big 10 teams claimaing they have the speed to keep up with SEC teams. Ohio State said much the same thing prior to our game with them. I’ll have to take a wait and see on that one.
We’re not Ohio State. Neither is Michigan or Iowa (you may remember them, Drew Tate, Jonathan Babineaux, Matt Roth, etc). Tennessee said the same thing about us. Penn State has always had fast linebackers. Penn State has had fast, smart defensive linemen since Larry Johnson, SR took over. Hell, we now run an offense that is predicated more on speed than power, in my view. And importantly, speed is just one of many facets of the game. An SEC team’s fast skill players don’t matter when Jared Odrick or Jay Alford or Lou Benfatti or Courtney Brown is sacking the quarterback.
As for Paterno and “hands on coaching”, he injured his knee last year while demonstrating to his kicker the proper technique for an onside kick. FWIW.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 3, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Auburn too
After they beat us, I think Ronnie Brown said; we speant too much time trying to run around them, we told the coaches at halftime that we should be going straight ahead.
Or something to that effect.
Pressure the quarterback, force a shitty throw into three deep coverage. That’s the game plan. If they want to dink and dunk underneath, I’ll take my chances with Sean Lee and Navarro Bowman.
I say let's rock the Orange Bowl, because nobody will remember in five years anyway.
The key is you have to get pressure out of your base defense without too much blitzing. Teams that have slowed our offense down with a scheme, usually get beat badly in the second half after the offense tweaks the game plan. If your defensive line can consitently physically dominate our offensive line, you’ll win. Otherwise, we’ll score 25 points, and that should be plenty for our defense given what you indicated.
USC did not out “athlete” Penn State. Mark Sanchez threw darts for the entire second quarter by throwing on time while beating a pretty intense pash rush but a pretty small margain. They spent the first quarter skeptical of our athletes and didn’t do much of anything. It was skill that beat us, not speed.
I don’t much concern myself with who does the coaching. But there aren’t too many teams that are more fundamentally sound than Penn State. Not to ruffle to many feathers on your end, but LSU isn’t one of them. Penn State has about two centuries worth of coaching experience on the sideline, and it’s a group that above all other things, is pretty good at winning bowl games.
I’m pretty confident that Penn State would put on a pretty good show against LSU. I am concerned that we won’t be able to handle your defensive line, as I suspect it’s probably a little better than advertised, even if it’s dissapointing by your normal standards.
Also, we’ve got awful special teams. If we can’t get that corrected, all bets are off.
I say let's rock the Orange Bowl, because nobody will remember in five years anyway.
but I mean...with a month to prepare
they HAVE to be able to improve special teams…right?….right?
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I just checked the stats:
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=4&rpt=IA_teamsacks&site=org
LSU’s 27th now. Apparently they’ve improved dramatically in the last few weeks.
I think they’ll get plenty of pressure on us. I just can’t say for sure if they’ll be as dominant as Ohio State. And with weeks to prepare, maybe we’ll think of something. We usually do.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 3, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Supplementary stats
Turns out our Stop sign-to-Turnstyle Oline is only 28th in the country in sacks allowed (16 for 92 yards in losses):
http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category20/sort01.html
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And LSU’s sack attack? 84th (19 sacks for 132 in losses)
http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/leader/national/team/offense/split01/category20/sort01.html
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
I made a booboo
My link was for 2007.
"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."
by ReadingRambler on Dec 3, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Watch
I’ll get all worked up about the Sexy Tigers and we’ll end up in Glendale.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
LSU
PSU’s special teams have been worse than horrible. Trinden (sp?) Holliday (sp?) could have a big, big game. PSU should study how LSU uses him and do the same with Devon Smith.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
I'm already having Holliday nightmares.
Twitter: @scrappled
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Dec 3, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Hopefully the time off to get our guys healthy
will return our best special teams players to the field. That and lots of practice time for them. We should go RichRod on the special teams practice once finals are over. HAH!
by PSUinBOSSton on Dec 3, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Us using Devon Smith
Requires him actually going to classes so JoePa will let him play.
Looks like it's offical
For awhile there it looked like you guys were going BCS over Iowa. No offense to them but for me (and I think the vast majority of LSU fans) a matchup with Penn State is way more exciting.

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