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I hope we get to be matched up against Penn State in the Cap One Bowl.  The Nittany Lions have always been one of my favorite college football teams (outside the Tigers of course).

 

Sorry ya'll are gonna have to lose but someone has to be our annual sacraficial bowl victim. 

 

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Sacrificial bowl victim? Let’s look at the scoreboard.

LSU’s Bowl wins = 21

JOE PATERNO’S Bowl wins = 23

Weak. I hope we do play the Tigers.

by BSD on Dec 2, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

Piling on

How did LSU do against PSU in the 1974 Orange Bowl?

Don’t bother looking it up. They lost 16-9.

by BSD on Dec 2, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

I tried it and it sucked....

all I saw was Ryan Perrilloux sitting on the bench.

by RudyWasOffsides on Dec 2, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Ryan Perrilloux

I tried it too, but all I got was a failed a drug test, a missed team meeting, a skipped class and I even ended up being a "person of interest" in a Federal investigation

by Bob Sacamano on Dec 3, 2009 8:35 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ohmagosh

A joke about Paterno’s age. How original.

by BSD on Dec 2, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Brilliant

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Help me out here...
Sorry ya’ll are gonna have to lose but someone has to be our annual sacraficial bowl victim.

When was the last time LSU played a Big Ten team that wasn’t Ohio State (no one takes them seriously anyway)? It was Iowa in 2005. Was the above attitude the attitude you had in December, 2004? You know, before a Big Ten defense with tough linebackers and a great defensive taclke made your runningbacks scared to go up the middle.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

"taclke"

My, that’s bad spelling. Like that of an SEC football player.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuhR-i1shcI&feature=related

Mmmm…. your tears taste like rainbows!

Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.

by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Dec 4, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

No jokes about Paterno's age from me

I think you misinterpreted my post. I wasn’t joking about Paterno’s age at all. I’m a big fan of his.

I was responding to the person who brought up the 1974 Orange bowl and the overall bowl victory counts of the two teams.

Recent history = LSU winning their bowl games pretty convincingly the last few years. Not sure about the Nitany Lions.

by methuselah on Dec 2, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

I didn't know you could specify a starting point in a YouTube clip

When you click on gumbercules link, it jumps 4 minutes and 52 seconds into the clip.

Born and raised in the shadow of Mount Nittany

by Elihu on Dec 4, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

"Not sure about the Nitany Lions"

We’re 5-3 against the SEC since joining the Big Ten. We only lose by double digits when going up against a USC squad that was the best team in the country.

SEC speed doesn’t usually matter when we’re involved.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

just a FYI

it wasn’t the bowl record of the 2 teams. It was the bowl record of your team vs the bowl record of our coach

by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.....

I didn’t think you were being a jackass. I know a lot of LSU fans and to a person they are fun and don’t take things too seriously. One might say, the anti-Florida fan.

Your chicks are smokin hot too. I hope we get matched up becasue I’m definitely going if the Lions are in Orlando.

"When is the last time you heard a CEO say, "You know, I am REALLY glad we lowered our standards. Its really worked out well for us"."

Colin Cowherd

Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.

by ech2os on Dec 2, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

No one said he was being a jackass

But Penn State doesn’t play sacrificial victim to anyone but USC (evidently, I guess).

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

It was obvious.....

to me the guy was joking around and everybody gets all riled up.

I’d hate to think people from another school come here and their first exposure to other Penn State fans is overly sensitive trash talking. That’s what my asshole Florida buddy would do and that’s why people hate Florida.

"When is the last time you heard a CEO say, "You know, I am REALLY glad we lowered our standards. Its really worked out well for us"."

Colin Cowherd

Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.

by ech2os on Dec 2, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah seriously

I don’t understand it… just some friendly banter, folks.

Welcome, methuselah, I certainly hope we play LSU as well. If it were to happen, it should be an awesome game.

by GreatScawt on Dec 2, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

As far as I’m concerned, we’re just returning the favor.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I tried it and it sucked...

It was like a football coach calling for a spike with :01 left on the clock

by AdamShell on Dec 2, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

This is what I'm talking about!

Screw the BCS! Bring on LSU!

And by the way, tell your coach he needs to look at a different clock!

by Mr. Rosewater on Dec 2, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

methuselah

I want to play Pitt. But if we don’t, Ill be more than happy to face you. Maybe we can share a sprite.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Dec 2, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

hahaha, I finally got you on record

You should have been more careful, Fugi.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

What would make you think I didn't?

Of course I want to play them.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Dec 2, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Except for that one time when you said you didn't?

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Regular season?

No. Nothing more than a home and home once IF they keep it up.

But I want them in this bowl game.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Dec 2, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever

I’m pretty sure you said something different before.

Semantics.

cheers

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he was fairly consistent

his “I don’t want to play Pitt” comments earlier during your guys back and forth a few days ago, to me, seemed more about a regular season series, and not about this bowl game. He’s definitely had a hard on for a bowl matchup against Pitt, though.

by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I really hate Kyle Singler

I don’t know why I’m posting this here, but I am.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

This

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Dec 2, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Gingers...

GROSS

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Dec 2, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

In all seriousness, methuselah

What’s your opinion of your defensive line?

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

Our D line

Our defensive line has been kind of disappointng to me this year.. They don’t really have the one stand out stud like they traditionally have. They are usually pretty tough against the run but the really good O lines we’ve faced like Bama and Florida and even Ole Miss have opened some holes in our line.

And the coaches have a tendancy to rush 3 and drop everyone into coverage on 3rd down. We’ve given up a lot of 3rd and longs this year. (It even has a name – 3rd and Chavis, after our D Coordinator).

Oh – and guys, don’t worry about a little trash talking. The LSU site I post on gets a lot rougher than this.

by methuselah on Dec 2, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Allrite, thanks a lot

I’ll post about our o-line here after basketball is over

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok

I’ll leave it to someone like jtothep to actually post about the skills of individual players (is it spelled Stankewitch?), I’m a little ignorant there, but the gist is that our offensive line has been good enough to get us to 10 wins, bad enough to get manhandled by Iowa and Ohio State.

If I were LSU, I would blitz, blitz, blitz. I don’t trust our ability to pick up fast blitzers or to throw quick passes to neutralize the blitzing.

How good is your secondary, and corners in particular? Our WRs were shut down by Iowa and Ohio State’s bump and run coverage.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 3, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I hear TigerDroppings went nuclear after the Miles clock/spike fiasco.

I’m looking forward to a matchup with LSU. Fun people, fun SEC school to passively root for.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Dec 3, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus!

Sexy! Don’t forget that.

/smartass off….I do agree. Tiger Stadium would be a fun, fun place to see a game sometime. I’m bummed, tho, my wife’s Baton Rouge friends just split up, so my connection there kinda disappeared.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 3, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Who gets you guys in the divorce?....

Just because they split up doesn’t mean you can’t use them horribly for free lodging.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Dec 3, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

She was one of my wife’s bridesmaids, and I only met the husband through both of them. So I lose him in the divorce.

I could probably score him back if we both traveled to the bowl game and our teams are opponents, but I don’t think either of us can make a long distance relationship work.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 3, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

your wife's bridesmaid sounds hot

stay with her

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

by psupride on Dec 3, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Rambler

Maybe we should start a thread.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Dec 2, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Gimme a minute

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2009/12/2/1181795/open-thread

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Secondary

Our secondary is very good. Chad Jones and Patrick Peterson are excellent athletes and the remaining DB’s are pretty good. Jai Eugene is great against the run from the secondary. Also, Chavis has gone with fast linebackers that help out in pass coverage a lot.

They can give up some underneath stuff, especially if the opposing QB is not feeling pressure from the d-line and/or blitzing. But overall they are one of the strong points of the team.

by methuselah on Dec 3, 2009 8:31 AM EST reply actions  

Response

LSU can play man to man and pressure the QB. The problem comes when they try to mix it up and play zone and rush 3 or 4. They are pretty good against the run but if teams make space with a spread type offense the can develop some big holes.

on offense our O line giving time to our QB is not one of our strong points. Nor is our QB stepping up into the pocket and getting rid of the ball.

i admit that I’m skeptical of Big 10 teams claimaing they have the speed to keep up with SEC teams. Ohio State said much the same thing prior to our game with them. I’ll have to take a wait and see on that one.

And I don’t think you’ll find too many Tiger fans claiming les Miles is any type of game day coaching guru. But, to be honest (if i can say this without rufflling too many feathers), I’m kinda unsure of how much hands on coaching Paterno has been doing for Penn State.

by methuselah on Dec 3, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i admit that I’m skeptical of Big 10 teams claimaing they have the speed to keep up with SEC teams. Ohio State said much the same thing prior to our game with them. I’ll have to take a wait and see on that one.

We’re not Ohio State. Neither is Michigan or Iowa (you may remember them, Drew Tate, Jonathan Babineaux, Matt Roth, etc). Tennessee said the same thing about us. Penn State has always had fast linebackers. Penn State has had fast, smart defensive linemen since Larry Johnson, SR took over. Hell, we now run an offense that is predicated more on speed than power, in my view. And importantly, speed is just one of many facets of the game. An SEC team’s fast skill players don’t matter when Jared Odrick or Jay Alford or Lou Benfatti or Courtney Brown is sacking the quarterback.

As for Paterno and “hands on coaching”, he injured his knee last year while demonstrating to his kicker the proper technique for an onside kick. FWIW.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 3, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Auburn too

After they beat us, I think Ronnie Brown said; we speant too much time trying to run around them, we told the coaches at halftime that we should be going straight ahead.

Or something to that effect.

Pressure the quarterback, force a shitty throw into three deep coverage. That’s the game plan. If they want to dink and dunk underneath, I’ll take my chances with Sean Lee and Navarro Bowman.

I say let's rock the Orange Bowl, because nobody will remember in five years anyway.

by jesse. on Dec 3, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The key is you have to get pressure out of your base defense without too much blitzing. Teams that have slowed our offense down with a scheme, usually get beat badly in the second half after the offense tweaks the game plan. If your defensive line can consitently physically dominate our offensive line, you’ll win. Otherwise, we’ll score 25 points, and that should be plenty for our defense given what you indicated.

USC did not out “athlete” Penn State. Mark Sanchez threw darts for the entire second quarter by throwing on time while beating a pretty intense pash rush but a pretty small margain. They spent the first quarter skeptical of our athletes and didn’t do much of anything. It was skill that beat us, not speed.

I don’t much concern myself with who does the coaching. But there aren’t too many teams that are more fundamentally sound than Penn State. Not to ruffle to many feathers on your end, but LSU isn’t one of them. Penn State has about two centuries worth of coaching experience on the sideline, and it’s a group that above all other things, is pretty good at winning bowl games.

I’m pretty confident that Penn State would put on a pretty good show against LSU. I am concerned that we won’t be able to handle your defensive line, as I suspect it’s probably a little better than advertised, even if it’s dissapointing by your normal standards.

Also, we’ve got awful special teams. If we can’t get that corrected, all bets are off.

I say let's rock the Orange Bowl, because nobody will remember in five years anyway.

by jesse. on Dec 3, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

but I mean...with a month to prepare

they HAVE to be able to improve special teams…right?….right?

by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I just checked the stats:

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=4&rpt=IA_teamsacks&site=org

LSU’s 27th now. Apparently they’ve improved dramatically in the last few weeks.

I think they’ll get plenty of pressure on us. I just can’t say for sure if they’ll be as dominant as Ohio State. And with weeks to prepare, maybe we’ll think of something. We usually do.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 3, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Supplementary stats

Turns out our Stop sign-to-Turnstyle Oline is only 28th in the country in sacks allowed (16 for 92 yards in losses):
http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category20/sort01.html
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And LSU’s sack attack? 84th (19 sacks for 132 in losses)
http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/leader/national/team/offense/split01/category20/sort01.html

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 3, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I made a booboo

My link was for 2007.

"I don't know. I don't know. [waves hand dismissively] First, you'd have to tell me what a 'BCS' is. I don't know."

by ReadingRambler on Dec 3, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Watch

I’ll get all worked up about the Sexy Tigers and we’ll end up in Glendale.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 3, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

LSU

PSU’s special teams have been worse than horrible. Trinden (sp?) Holliday (sp?) could have a big, big game. PSU should study how LSU uses him and do the same with Devon Smith.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 3, 2009 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

I'm already having Holliday nightmares.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Dec 3, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully the time off to get our guys healthy

will return our best special teams players to the field. That and lots of practice time for them. We should go RichRod on the special teams practice once finals are over. HAH!

by PSUinBOSSton on Dec 3, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Us using Devon Smith

Requires him actually going to classes so JoePa will let him play.

by mvrck on Dec 3, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Is he in the doghouse?

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Dec 4, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like it's offical

For awhile there it looked like you guys were going BCS over Iowa. No offense to them but for me (and I think the vast majority of LSU fans) a matchup with Penn State is way more exciting.

by methuselah on Dec 6, 2009 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

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