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Can we come to an agreement here?

Everyone has pet peeves. jesse. hates Damon's, and with good reason. Jtothep hates Dennis Dodd. Fugimaster24 hates the Pittsburgh media. DawsonPSU10 hates the lack of cougars in Pennsylvania. And I hate humans.

All perfectly reasonable. 

But I have a very, very special hate for the term "Capital One Bowl".

It was one thing when it was "FedEx Orange Bowl", or "Sunkist Fiesta Bowl", but the Citrus Bowl was a great name for the bowl in Orlando. It was so accurate. They couldn't be as cool as oranges, so they just went with citrus in general. Grapefruit? Tangerines? Who knows. But it's perfect for a bowl that will never be as cool as the cool kids and I'm sad to see it go.

They could have added that damn credit card to the name, but no, that was too soft. I hate you, Capital One. 

This game is and always will be the Citrus Bowl and I wish BSD would refer to it as such.

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I'll go on record

You’re crazy! But I like you anyway.

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by PaJoe on Dec 6, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Zug, by the way

and I’m totally down with calling the name of the bowl as the actually the name of the bowl and not a stupid sponsor.

by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 6, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Out of curiosity

How do you address certain countries?

Or if this just about corporate greed, how do you fare on this list?

I think corporate naming is horses**t, but it’s still easier to refer to the current name of the bowl/stadium/country.

"Have I ever told the story of when I met Miley Cyrus?"

by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 6, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions  

I'M STICKING WITH CITRUS BOWL AND I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY

"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09

by ReadingRambler on Dec 6, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Does this make you happy...

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Dec 6, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said, the sponsor’s one thing, but they at least kept the name.

"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09

by ReadingRambler on Dec 6, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

We ran into that

My wife and I counting countries we had been to. Decided it only made sense to count the country as it was When You Visited. Alas, I could not get credit for both Czech Republic AND Slovakia, since it was only Czechoslovakia when I was there. I’m still ahead of her by a few, tho, and the chances of her going to a new country without me are dimming.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

What if you visited Munich in 1989 and 2009?

Would you count West Germany and Germany then?

by Cairo on Dec 7, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

the ULTIMATE in renaming rights

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DISH,_Texas

I noticed this on google maps when I was driving my (now ex) girlfriend down to her new place in Texas. I couldn’t figure why the town DISH was all in capital letters, so I looked it up. Apparently in return for the name change all residents (pop: 181) get free basic TV for 10 years, and a free DVR from DISH network.

by The JuggerNitt on Dec 8, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll take that poll as an homage

and I’m with you, Citrus is much better. and grapefruits ftw.

by PSUisMyHeart on Dec 6, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

How about . . .

The “We won’t come down with Scurvy Bowl”

by psdeuce on Dec 6, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

I like it

"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09

by ReadingRambler on Dec 6, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

shouldn't we already be refusing to acknoledge capital one's sponsorship

on the basis that the nittany lion is never included in that mascot challenge garbage?

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Dec 6, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

I think we won the first one

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. "
George S Patton

by psu in the w-b on Dec 6, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

The Lion lost the first contest in 2002 to Monte the Bear form the University of Montana.

http://www.capitalonebowl.com/history/main

by SlingStone on Dec 7, 2009 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

i heard a rumor

and i’d like to right for the sheer awesomeness of the story:

supposedly in the first mascot challenge, the nittany lion received an overwhelming number of first-place votes. the “selection committee” deemed that there was no possible way that any mascot could win the competition in such a landslide. they determined that the voting was rigged, and the title given to the runner-up. out of protest, penn state has refused to enter the “competition” since. I may be wrong, and your source is better than my rumor-mill, but i want to believe this as the awesomest truth evah.

PLEASE DON’T CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG!!!! just kidding.

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by afields16 on Dec 7, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know if you are right or wrong

but I recall the Lion leading quite handily in the days leading up to the finish. I thought it was a sure thing (and liked that we were also playing in the game, so it was a good tie in), but was quite surprised when they announced a different mascot as the winner. I figured it was rigged, and stopped what little amount of caring I previously had

by The JuggerNitt on Dec 8, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

how the hell did they manage to win 2

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. "
George S Patton

by psu in the w-b on Dec 8, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that because the Nittany Lion never wears any clothing?

Except for the occassional scarf, I think the Cap One Mascot Challenge is unnecessarily biased against nudity.

by jimbo2psu on Dec 7, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

occasional?

when have you seen the lion fully nude…never mind, I don’t want to know.

by The JuggerNitt on Dec 8, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually forgot what bowl this was before Capital One got their $$$$ and name shoved in there.
I’m gonna start calling it the Citrus Bowl – who doesn’t love a nice grapefruit or tangerine? And those little Clementine oranges? Nothing finer.

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Dec 6, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

Dude those clementines are like crack for me

If I don’t pay attention or only take a few with me at a time, I’ll take a crate of them with me to eat, and end up eating half a crate or more at a time. I can’t stop eating them when I have them.

by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 6, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Count me in

Can’t go wrong with a juicy kumquat.

This Mission also expands the thematic possibilities for our game-watching parties. Absolut Citron anyone?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

Absolute Ruby Red for me

Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...

by letsgopsu on Dec 7, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't really care about bowl names

But I’d like to second your hatred of humans.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Dec 6, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

I disagree

Bowl sponsorships are the reason bowls are worth more money and the reason programs like Penn State can support all the athletic programs at the university indepedently.

To say “Let’s call it the Citrus bowl” is like saying, “we’re happy to be coming to your house but we think you’re douchebags”.

I’m grateful we have the Citis and the FedExs and the Capital One’s of the world involved in college football.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Dec 6, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

That said

There’d be nothing wrong with the Capital One Citrus Bowl.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Dec 6, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

With respects, Fugi, I don't think you understand

I didn’t say anything about the corporate names. I would have been fine with “Capital One Citrus Bowl” or something like that.

"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09

by ReadingRambler on Dec 6, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah after reading it...

Perhaps I overreated. But if you pay to put your name on the bowl, you can call it the “I Did Your Mom From Every Possible Angle” Bowl and I wouldn’t blame you.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Dec 7, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

that is a bowl name i can get behind...

and on top, etc etc…

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Dec 7, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

so basically the Fiesta Bowl this year

because those teams (and their mommas) got screwed

by The JuggerNitt on Dec 8, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

But it kind of takes a little away from the history of the bowl, no?

I mean obviously we owe part of the payout to the payouts from corporations sponsoring them, and I guess if you’re paying a ton of money you get to completely erase the history of the name of the bowl just to put your companies name on it, but it’s just a pretty dick move.

by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 7, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Ehhh...

I guess I feel as though the Bowls have no soul to begin with, because at their heart, they’re all money grabs, so it doesn’t bother me when their names are changed.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Dec 7, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

It's really not that big of a deal, everything has to have a sponsor nowadays

but I just feel like any sense of history these places represented is kind of lost (not that the Citrus bowl has the history of say a Rose, etc.). But let us not forget that it was our 1987 NC that set all this in motion (not that it was our fault, especially since it was the highest rated college football game ever played). Before that, you didn’t have all this little consolation prize bowls for every half the teams in CFB with 6 wins, so they actually meant something more than money.

Wiki has a write up on the history of bowls here, and is an interesting read. I hadn’t realized this, but we actually played in the first Rose bowl game played in the rebuilt (and modern) Rose Bowl Stadium in 1923. Wiki kind of illustrates the growth:

The Rose Bowl was the only major college bowl game in 1930. By 1940, there were four major college bowl games: the Rose Bowl, the Cotton Bowl Classic, the Orange Bowl, and the Sugar Bowl. By 1950, the number had increased to eight games. In 1960 there were still eight major college bowl games, but by 1970 the number had increased again, to 11 games. The number continued to increase, to 15 games in 1980, to 19 games in 1990, 25 games in the year 2000 and as of 2008, 34 games in total. Up until around the 1950s, games were played solely on New Years Day, with few exceptions. In the late 1950s, more bowl games began playing their games earlier in December. Also bowl games began to be set in cities which were not thought of as winter vacation destinations due to their colder climates.

by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 7, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

O Dawson, now you've set me off

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Dec 7, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

"we’re happy to be coming to your house but we think you’re douchebags".

I see it more as “we’re happy to be coming to your house, but we’re going to make really sarcastic comments about the insane way you’ve decorated the exterior of your house”

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Dec 7, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

If someone’s house looks like ass, then the visitors are well within their rights to mock the owner for his madness.

"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09

by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Or maybe...

The Bacon-Douchebag Bowl ? …..That would GREATful

by DerryPharmer on Dec 6, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

I actually meant

be GREATFUL !! I’m going to bed…

by DerryPharmer on Dec 6, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

I hate Curley too by the way

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Dec 7, 2009 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

You don't say

"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09

by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Curley who?

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Dec 7, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

There is no one to blame but the bowl itself.

If you call it by the old name, you are rewawrding the bowl and creating a double standard. Take me for example. If I sold the rights to my name, I would either have to condition the sale on including my current name and decrease the market value, or accept the consequences. Whole Foods PSUinBOSSton is worth less than changing my name to Whole Foods. I couldn’t sell it for a higher price unconditionally and then expect my fans to whine that they should have included my old name to pay homage to me.

by PSUinBOSSton on Dec 7, 2009 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

I love how serious people are taking this

"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09

by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

ok, another fail.

It was not intended to be serious so much as an underhanded attempt to drum up support and publicity for the sale of my naming rights.

by PSUinBOSSton on Dec 7, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

you lost us at 'take me for example'

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 7, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Tangerine Bowl

When it started in 1947 it was called the Tangerine Bowl Game.
When the stadium expanded in 1976 from 17K to 52K it was renamed the Florida Citrus Bowl.

Assuming the logic in this post is correct, anyone who calls this bowl the Citrus Bowl is clearly in cahoots with the Florida Citrus growers.


(This is Miss Florida Citrus 2009. Undoubtedly due to some conspiracy hatched by the Florida Citrus growers, there is no Miss Tangerine.)

by Aaron PSU on Dec 7, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

It’s a difficult point with calling it the “Tangerine Bowl” because the current Champs Sports Bowl — which started its existence as the Blockbuster Bowl — was known as the Tangerine Bowl in 2002-2003. So, you can’t really use “Tangerine Bowl” to uniquely identify the bowl currently known as the Capital One.

“Citrus Bowl”, OTOH, is non-ambiguous in terms of which game it refers to.

by Laaaaazzz on Dec 7, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

But there is a Little Mister Citrus!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 7, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

WHOA WAIT A DAMN MINUTE

Those two on the right, and one on the left clearly lack a Y chromosome (I think anyway, otherwise you have some really F’d up parents), and clearly are in the Little Mister Citrus pageant illegally, and totally undeserving of that gigantic freaking trophy.

(Yes, I can read the ‘Little Miss Citrus’ sash, this was a sarcasm button comment)

by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 7, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

My understading is that

Miss Florida Citrus, and Miss Tangerine, are two different categories. Based on size.

I say let's rock the Orange Bowl, because nobody will remember in five years anyway.

by jesse. on Dec 7, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

DawsonPSU10 hates the lack of cougars in Pennsylvania

but their will be a ton of tigers in orlando.

(please don’t laugh at this terrible pun)

We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.

by mikeissurreal on Dec 7, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

like these cougars?

Just gotta know where to look, I guess.

I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member

by TheMightyErik on Dec 7, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Please Zug, let their be an entire pride of hot, sexy cougars looking for college students

You can have the majority of them, my Lord, just leave a few for your most devoted followers! HAIL!

by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 7, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Be careful

What you ask for brother.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 7, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I'm not stupid, she's not even that hot

plus, and I don’t know what it is, she looks like she smokes a pack of day and has a voice like Louis Armstrong

by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 7, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I trust that you're not stupid, but quick quiz just in case

A:

or B:

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 7, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn you Jtot

you know I hate that there aren’t enough cougars (choice A) in PA, but that dress is about to cough up a chesticle (choice B obviously)

by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 7, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

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