December Recruiting Thread
by millzners on Dec 7, 2009 10:21 AM EST
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It's a long time until Jan 1st and I know that at least for me, recruiting is only interesting when there's no actual football to talk about... Anyway, here's your updates (I have no insider knowledge or access, no pay site memberships, therefore this is all free content I found on the interwebs):
| COMMITTED/UNSIGNED | Pos | Stars | Ht | Wt | 40 | RR | Video | Enrolled | Hometown |
| Robert Bolden | QB |  |
6-4 | 195 | 4.5 | 5.9 |  |
Orchard Lake, MI | |
| Paul Jones | QB | |
6-3 | 226 | - | 5.9 | |
McKees Rocks , PA | |
| Silas Redd | RB | |
5-10 | 200 | 4.45 | 5.9 | |
Stamford, CT | |
| Zach Zwinak | RB | |
6-2 | 230 | 4.5 | 5.8 | |
Frederick, MD | |
| Adrian Coxson | WR | |
6-2 | 194 | 4.45 | 5.8 | |
Baltimore, MD | |
| Alex Kenney | WR | |
6-0 | 194 | 4.41 | 5.7 | |
State College, PA | |
| Levi Norwood | WR | |
6-2 | 170 | - | 5.5 | |
Waco, TX | |
| Kyle Baublitz | TE | |
6-4 | 254 | 5.13 | 5.8 | |
York, PA | |
| Kevin Haplea | TE | |
6-4 | 226 | 4.75 | 5.7 | |
Annandale, NJ | |
| Miles Dieffenbach | OL | |
6-5 | 277 | 5.5 | 5.8 | |
Pittsburgh, PA | |
| Luke Graham | OL | |
6-5 | 260 | - | 5.7 | |
Harrison City, PA | |
| Daquan Jones | OL | |
6-4 | 302 | 5.4 | 5.7 | Johnson City, NY | ||
| Khamrone Kolb | OL | |
6-6 | 300 | 5.1 | 5.5 | |
Burke, VA | |
| Thomas Ricketts | OL | |
6-6 | 265 | - | 5.8 | |
Wexford, PA | |
| Dominique Easley | DE | |
6-3 | 258 | 4.7 | 5.9 | |
Staten Island, NY | |
| C.J. Olaniyan | DE | |
6-5 | 230 | 4.65 | 5.8 | |
Warren, MI | |
| Dakota Royer | DE | |
6-3 | 211 | 4.66 | 5.8 | |
Manheim, PA | |
| Evan Hailes | DT | |
6-1 | 305 | 5 | 5.8 | |
Chesapeake, VA | |
| Khairi Fortt | LB | |
6-2 | 220 | 4.58 | 6.0 | |
Stamford, CT | |
| Mike Hull | LB | |
6-1 | 215 | - | 5.8 | |
Canonsburg, PA |
The obvious challenge now isn't getting new verbal commits; it's simply signing the kids who've verball committed... When you have a top 5 class you're going to have all the scumbag coaches [cough Meyer cough] in the country coming for your blue chip recruits. Here's some scuttlebutt:
The Good:
Paul Jones: Looks to be enrolling early, as in 1 month from now, after being iffy early in the year is now talking the talk of a great Penn State player. Says he's built great relationships with other commits and he'll get to play with them during the Army All American game.
The Bad:
Dominique Easley: A stellar DE and a serious need for Penn State, committed after a long look at other schools, now recently took an official visit to Oregon "I’m still committed to Penn State, but I’m considering Oregon." Anyway, he's got an official visit to Penn State coming up which might right the ship. Doesn't help matters when this kid visited us during the Temple game, and then visited Oregon during the Civil War.
The Ugly:
Adrian Coxson - McQuerry basically told Coxson there's no room for him, doesn't return his calls, and encouraged him to look elsewehere; this AFTER our boy LJ Sr. recruited his face off to get the kid to commit early. Coxson took a good look at UF, and it looks like he's ready to jump ship on us. Recently LJ Sr and Big Red made a visit to his house, that's left us with a lot of uncertainty at this point. You can speculate all you want on this, but honestly I have no idea why a position coach would undermine the recruiting of another position coach. Big Red lost major points for this debacle, in my book at least.
Kids we're still after:
Lattimore, Floyd, and now Thorton. Thorton (DT) and Lattimore (RB) both visited for the jaOSU game and showered PSU with praise. Thorton is a late offer due to the mess with Floyd. As I'm sure most people have heard, we're basically out of the race for DT Floyd after Urban Meyer gave him all the negative recruiting he could.
Under Armor All American Game: (Black Team)
| 40 | Dakota Royer | DE | 6-3, 220 | Manheim Central (Pa.) | Penn State |
| 47 | Dominique Easley | DE | 6-3, 260 | Curtis (N.Y.) | Penn State |
| 54 | Miles Dieffenbach | C | 6-5, 277 | Fox Chapel (Pa.) | Penn State |
| 75 | Evan Hailes | DT | 6-1, 315 | Oscar Frommel Smith (Va.) | Penn State |
Army All American Game (East Team):
| Khairi Fortt | No. 2 OLB | Penn State |
| Mike Hull | No. 8 OLB | Penn State |
| Paul Jones | No. 7 PQB |
Penn State |
| Silas Redd | No. 6 RB |
Penn State |
| Zach Zwinak | No. 1 FB | Penn State |
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That Coxson situation
Is on the “UGA abandonment of Khairi Fortt while on official visit” level of EPIC FAIL. They better fix this. We’re not bad off at WR, especially with The Drake looking as good as he has, but we can’t afford to lose a kid this close to PA that has been a solid commitment for almost a year.
You ever think that maybe there is a reason for this?
I find it hard to believe that the coaches (or even just one coach) would full out turn a kid away like that, especially an uber talented one. Does anyone have any dirt? I mean did the coaches find out something negative about Coxson and didn’t want him here due to our recent troubles? Grades or off the field? I don’t want to slander someone, Im just trying to figure out a reason for this.
Either way, at least WR is a position we will be fairly set at for awhile and this debacle won’t be devastating. If it is simple as a problem of not enough schollies, I wonder if maybe they just like Norwood more and made Coxson the sacrificial lamb.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
Completely a wild guess
but I bet its something along the lines of personality/meshing with the team. I just hope this didn’t put a sour taste in LJSr.’s mouth (that Big Red can essentially undercut him whenever he wants).
And it’s libelous, what you are saying, not slanderous. Use defame, to be safe.
"Have I ever told the story of when I met Miley Cyrus?"
by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 7, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
BOOOM
/Lawyered
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
Your lucky you didn't just get sued
Why you would get sued, I don’t know, but I’ve heard of lawsuits for equally as petty things.
Actually, I've sued both of you.
And BSD. You’ll be served by a Sheriff soon.
"Have I ever told the story of when I met Miley Cyrus?"
by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 7, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Lawyer freaks
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
You really outlawyered me on that one.
But I’ll go toe to toe with anyone on Bird Law.
"Have I ever told the story of when I met Miley Cyrus?"
by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 7, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
he said?
"Have I ever told the story of when I met Miley Cyrus?"
by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 7, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
/ignored
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
I AM HERE!
EVERYONE IS GETTING SUED!
"Have I ever told the story of when I met Miley Cyrus?"
by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 7, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
JoePa gets this
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
took him 3 years
to get ’er in the stacks
"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who
Apparently I also was flipping through one of the free threads on FOS
and Paul Jones has been actively contacting a bunch of his fellow future Penn Staters, including Coxson, so let’s hope Jones’ loyalty and devotion pays off and he helps to right this EPIC FAIL with Coxson.
Need I remind all of you that if we lose Coxson, we lose the Coxson-Kuntz WR Duo. This is unacceptable.
by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 8, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It is kind of laughable now about the Meyer negative recruiting thing
I have met Meyer and thought he was a decent coach, but to be saying other schools have “legal” issues, while he has had 29 arrests since he started at Florida is a bit of a joke.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
The key to the Meyer angle
Was his claim that Penn State didn’t stick up for its players who got into trouble, specifically our black players. And for the record, if being held accountable for your actions and “sticking up for your players” are mutually exclusive, then Meyer’s right. Meyer has a well document history of not holding his start players accountable for their actions.
The bottom line is that if you expect that you’re going to be in trouble a lot, and don’t want to be held accountable for it, then we don’t want you at Penn State anyway.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
Urban
quickly forgets his star DE was passed out at the wheel, which pretty much hurt the defense enough to pull a no show during the SEC title game…
I know college football is cut throat, but it is pretty pathetic that you have 50 year old men trying to one up each other on the scumbag scale.
Big Ten Titles for everyone.
The key to the Meyer angle
Was his claim that Penn State didn’t stick up for its players who got into trouble, specifically our black players. And for the record, if being held accountable for your actions and "sticking up for your players" are mutually exclusive, then Meyer’s right. Meyer has a well document history of not holding his start players accountable for their actions.
The bottom line is that if you expect that you’re going to be in trouble a lot, and don’t want to be held accountable for it, then we don’t want you at Penn State anyway.
Well from what I gathered of the situation Meyer and a former PSU, now Florida coach claim that PSU does not stick up for its player, especially black players. I think we can all look at the legal issues a few years back. Sure a few guys got booted, but plenty were allowed to stay on the team.
Now Meyer has booted some of his own for legal issues. In this weeks SI issue he says (and I paraphrase since the mag is at home) “some guys violate our core beliefs as a team”. He goes on to say that is “lying to me, stealing and hitting a girl”. Now I am sure there are guys that got booted from PSU I am going to miss, but the two who jump out at me are Chris Baker (god having him jump out at me is scary), and Chris “Stabby McStabbins” Bell. Now didn’t Baker have several run ins with the law? And if attempting to stab a teammate is not “a violation of our core beliefs” I do not know what is a violation.
Meyer wants to point fingers but at least Paterno has never had a highly recruited player go OD on X, after being removed from the program.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
One thing to consider is that if a kid like Baker is in a bad situation, friends with the wrong people, and in trouble all the time the best thing for them is to get a wake-up call and go to another school. Baker will probably end up in the NFL, and he’ll probably be better off than if he had stayed in State College. In the end Joe did him a favor by kicking him off the team, b/c all accounts are that he cleaned up his act and grew up a lot.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
Baker IS in the nfl, I believe with the Broncos, or at least he was at the beginning.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
One thing to consider is that if a kid like Baker is in a bad situation
on a bad Penn State team
friends with the wrong people
his teammates
and in trouble all the time
JoePa puts him in the doghouse repeatedly
the best thing for them is to get a wake-up call and go to another school.
where things are worse
by Mr. Rosewater on Dec 8, 2009 3:02 AM EST up reply actions
Wow, my computer skills suck...
I thought I could do stuff on a computer then I got a computer with super fire walls attached and now I suck.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
Wow
Sure scuttled some butt on this one.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
mandatory:
that’s what she said?
We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.
by mikeissurreal on Dec 7, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Just to make our recruitment class that much sweeter...
Clausen is going pro, apparently on Weis’s insistence. ND’s second stringer is a senior and will graduate. Their third string QB is out with a torn ACL until mid summer at best.
Also, it looks like Hendrix, their 4 star recruit, will not be enrolling early.
So Notre Dame’s new head coach may not even have a quarterback to practice with until June or July at best. I find that deliciously hilarious.
"apparently on Weis's insistence"
This is incredibly bitchy and awesome.
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Truth is after Sam Bradford’s 100 million dollar injury, he was right to get Clausen to the draft. That’s going to be the prime example for a decade at least.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
well that and the salary cap going into effect for rookies
after next year. tate is going too.
"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"
Wait, what?
Isn’t there a requirement that a kid has to be three years out of high school before he can sign? …or is that going away with the new rookie salary rules?
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Dec 8, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Aaah...
I thought the Golden Teat was a junior, and thus already eligible anyway.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Dec 8, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
What's the deal with Easley?
Does anyone take his “I’m considering OREGON” thing seriously? I mean, c’mon, it’s Oregon.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
i always thought
it was a running joke with all the recruits to list “oregon” in their top 3/5 schools.
We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.
by mikeissurreal on Dec 7, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
The issue is...
He committed to us, then sorta opened up to Oregon LONG after committing to us. This isn’t the usual “yeah we like the free nike gear, but we’re never going there” order of things.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Me too
Still do. It’s like an internent meme, only in recruiting circles.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Are we even still trying for Lattimore?
Royster may or may not go, we’ve got Green, Beachum, Carter, Dukes, ZZ/Redd (Little Redd GINGER SMASH)
seems like the stable is full
Full stable is half full
Beachum tore his ACL and may not return until midseason next year at best,
So if Royster goes, and I believe he will, here’s the 2010 depth chart:
Green (converted DB, not an every down back, loves the fumbles)
Carter (perennial 4th string backup, still very talented)
Dukes (looks like a friggin DE, who knows)
Redd (I think Redd is going to be awesome)
So if you’re some 5-star super talented NFL-ready guy, you have to imagine he looks at that depth chart and says “hell yeah I can beat out Carter, Dukes, and Green”…
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
Green
I don’t think he fumbled once this year if I remember correctly. But also wasn’t active for as long as he was. He really beat himself up over that fumble in the Rose Bowl, and practiced ball handling all summer.
Rose Bowl Fumble
Still haunts me. It’s going to take a LOT of carries w/ no fumbles for me to let that one go. I mean everytime I think about it I just… I mean JUST GO OUT OF BOUNDS YOU ALREADY HAVE 50 YARDS WTF ARE YOU DOING CUTTING BACK IN, JUST GO OUT OF BOUNDS !@#%
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
Wow, you really think Royster will go?
Do you think he’s burned out on the JoePa/Penn State scene? He seemed lackluster toward the end, attitudinally as well and apparently Joe ‘had a talk with him?’
Are any of those things considerations that add to your suspicion he’ll leave?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Well, If I were him, I might leave.
He likely will be getting his degree soon, since he is a 4th year JR. Next year(his last) is looking to be tough. He is listed by most as a 2nd-3rd round pick. Given the high bust rate of PSU backs, this is likely the best he’ll get. There aren’t a ton of stud RBs this year (i think).
The only reason he might have to stay is to completely re-write the rushing record book.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
how bad would it suck to be the guy at the bookstore
that has to re-paint all the leading rushers and their yards on the steps…although i’d welcome this job
"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who
That job would be awesome! Are you kidding?
The players all come back to sign their steps in SBS, meaning you could get to meet some great PSU players, there is nothing sucky about that. I’d gladly do that.
two words
Sam Bradford
Go now and get at least 4th round money and a shot at 2nd or 3rd round. Go next year and risk losing it all for (maybe) a bump up in the round you’re drafted in. Royster’s never going to be a first round guy, he just doesn’t fit that NFL mold. So he’s probably going to go in the 3rd round this year, and if he comes back and plays better and avoids injury he might go in the early 2nd round… Not worth the risk.
He’ll get Joe’s blessing he earned his degree and helped us to a B10 title — getting drafted and making an impact in the NFL will give Penn State something to chirp about to recruits.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
From the sounds of it,
3rd round guys this year will get as much as guys in the top 10 next year.
Too many is never a bad thing with young talent
I’ve said it before – I believe Royster stays (maybe just because I want him to.)
If he stay’s or not, BB gets the redshirt, just makes sense.
Green, Carter will see the first action (if sans Royster); if Green or Carter for some reason aren’t playing at the level they should – in goes Dukes. Redd will get the RS.
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Dec 8, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
also
I’m already in love with the idea of ZZ/Redd in the backfield, because I have this feeling that they’re going to be a force. Redd has been absolutely dominant this year in HS, and so has ZZ. For the record I don’t think we’ll need Lattimore.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
I really didn't think we had a chance with Lattimore
but then I was convinced he was actually giving us a shot, and recently I’ve been convinced we really don’t need him. Redd has been getting a LOT of hype from what I remember from the camps over the summer, and is just an all around blue and white blooded guy, which I love.
yeah, I really like Redd a lot — he’s got that compact every-down back type of build, he’s a ridiculous athlete, and he bleeds Blue and White and always has. We’re lucky enough to have him, but to have ZZ back there at FB is almost too good to be true.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
Don't forget we've still got Suhey who's is a RS soph this year
And has really been a great weapon this year. But yes, with the QB talent coming in (unrefined at the moment as it may be), RB stable, and FB situation, our backfield is looking bright as hell. Not to mention the stable of linemen we have too (again, not good this year, but with experience, we’ve got a ton of talent there, Scout has the elligibility chart, just take a gander at the linemen, next year we’ll have available:
Srs: Wiz, Klopacz, and Eliades
Jrs: Barham, Pannell, Tortorelli (don’t know who he is, but his name sounds delicious), and Troutman
Sophs: Farrell, Stank, and Terry
RS Freshmen: Arcidiacono, Cadogen, Figueroa, Gress, Howle (who I think I’ve heard very good things about and was one of the guys that enrolled early last Janurary), Shrive, and Urschel
True Froshes (likely RS’s): Kolb, Rickets, Graham, Diffenbach
i noticed this from tWWL's PSU Roster the other day
Seniors – 17
Juniors – 16
Sophomores – 30
Freshmen – 58
any reason for this?
Holy scheiz...
Never saw that breakdown, but I LOVE it. Part of the reason is 26 (I think that actually matriculated) from last year.
Upon second though, that’s gotta be a typo – probably 48. Either way, keep stocking the talent and I’ll be happy.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
do they combine redshirts and true freshmen?
don’t forget, college football is usually a 5 year program
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 9, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Tortorelli
Could be a very bad matchup problem with Brandon Ware.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Dec 7, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ware eats O-linemen for breakfast
No, I mean he really eats them for breakfast.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Dec 8, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
shit man i could sleep all day
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 8, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I toyed with driving up the road to peep ZZ's play
In Frederick one night, but got too busy. Seems cut from the Penn State cloth, that one.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
"Peep ZZ's play"
Is that some sort of perv lingo, you creeper? Gonna take the ol’ Jtot Candy Van up for a spin around their neighborhood with your binoculars? For shame, sir, for shame!
Douche!
I mean, touche!
/muttering….’jtot candy van…..rass a frassa….
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Redd was named Army AA Player of the Year Finalist.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Man walks on moon....
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2009/12/4/1185469/redd-one-of-6-finalists-for-player#comments
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
Ouch...
I knew it was old, but hadn’t seen the Finalist link on here. Sorry :(
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
that's the problem with fanshots, most people don't see them
I only added the “man walks on moon” b/c that was one of my favorite posts when (was it fui or cairo?) posted someone had committed after it had been posted and everyone went off with old claims
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
PRESIDENT JOHN F KENNEDY SHOT IN TEXAS!
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
bread easier to eat when sliced
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
Bill Cosby
JoePa older than sliced bread
still my favorite non-came part of the Oregon State game
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 9, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Latimore is still considering PSU
this is according to the Charleston Post and Courrier which I subscribe to. He still seems like he is totally up in the air.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
At least it doesn't sound like he's pulling a Pryor an leading us on for nothing more than an ego boost
and frankly it wouldn’t mattered if he did, because we’re pretty solid with depth and talent at RB.
Lattimore
As I work in Lattimore’s back yard and work with his cousin, I think we have a great shot at Lattimore. He loved his visit and loved the coaches. The only drawback is the 9 hour drive for his family. I keep trying to pry info out of his cous but Lattimore keeps it close to the chest. PS South Carolina should be annexed by West Virginia.
You work in his back yard?
Please tell me you’re the gardener doing his mom and that that’s not a euphemism.
/booing self…
/slinks away
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
I knew it, Jtot! (see above comment)
I’m totally calling the cops before you try to touch one of our recruits (which is a legal violation, and most likely a recruiting violation as well)
wow... my home depot crew
can’t speak the language let alone type it. That dude would command top $ out here in Cali
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
by TheMightyErik on Dec 9, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
There's only one bad thing about it:
That’s Home Depot.
And there’s nothing wrong with saying it as it’s a fact, but if you shop at Home Depot you are a damned hypocrite.
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
If Big Red isn't returning calls to Coxson
then why did he and LJ Sr just do an in house visit to him on 12/1? Where are these rumors coming from?
I was summarizing about a months worth of developments with the situation
The most recent development is that LJ Sr. and McQuerry went to his house, and thats the last I’ve heard. Up until then it was reported to some degree (I don’t have any pay site memberships) that things were not going well and that Coxson was being pushed to look at other schools by someone on the PSU staff (allegedly McQuerry). This was probably fleshed out a great deal by the pay sites but to some extent it was posted on BSD and other sites.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
Fleshed out by the pay sites
That’s what I’m kind of wondering. It just honestly makes zero sense to me that anyone on the staff would tell a top WR recruit, “You should look around”, when it’s extremely likely we may not fill out every spot available for this class now that Floyd is pretty much done. Especially of all people the WR COACH! I just saw Scout changed Coxson and Easley to “soft verbal” status, so who knows at this point. I’d like to believe these sites are just flaunting rumors because a kid wants to look around a bit, but it’s pretty much their jobs to confirm rumors.
Just a hunch...
by the sites changing their status, ’prolly sparks more hits/interest to the sites, …no?
I don’t trust anything anymore…I actually think Rambler has more human traits than he lets on to..!
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by BlueWhiteLife on Dec 8, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
I have heard with other recruits that PSU makes them look around to be sure.
Something about telling them that they absolutely want them, but don’t want any hasty decisions and regret. I had never heard it painted in such a negative light, but am not surprised.
Also important to remember
We’re dealing with teenagers here. These are irrational, melodramatic, emotionally-driven people we’re keeping tabs on. So if McQuerry and Coxson aren’t BFF anymore, then one of those creepy recruiting stalkers is probably going to find out and report about it. So it’s really difficult to rationalize the situation.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
I know
My disbelief isn’t that a teenager may be having doubts, it’s with the rumor that a position coach is telling a recruit who he would be coaching, that’s been on board for almost a year, that we’re out of space and he should look around.
If it’s like Boston said, and we encourage recruits to look around to make sure this is the place for them, then I totally respect that, and actually think that’s a great strategy. Get the ones that are sure they’re ready to bleed blue and white for 4/5 years, and they’ll be sure to pour their hearts out when they get here. But telling a recruit we’re running out of room, look elsewhere, just seems ridiculous to me.
exactly
and it’s perfectly reasonable to assume that’s all that happened but Coxson was put off by it in some way, and then he made a whole lot of drama out of a rather mundane situation. Or that the recruiting sites took a whole bunch of liberty with the modest information they had and spun it into this story we got. Or maybe its all true, and there was a dispute on the coaching staff over whether this kid would work here (don’t forget we still don’t put up with egos and Prima Donnas, no matter how many stars they have).
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
man, what would have happened if we did get Pryor?
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 9, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
We would have lost by 50 to USC
Would have lost by 30 to Iowa. Probably would have lost to Indiana.
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt it
Joe wouldn’t have let him play as a true freshman, especially upstaging a Senior QB in Clark. And actually we probably would have moved him to WR by now.
I meant this year
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Just shut up!
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 10, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
we did play USC this year, January 2009 Rose Bowl.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
I win again!
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 10, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
We made Lattimore's top 5
Rebels assistant coach Bobby Bentley said Tuesday that Lattimore has ruled out UNC, leaving the star running back with a final five of USC, Auburn, Penn State, Oregon and Georgia.
Cross off USC and Oregon, b/c it looks like USC’s got a full stable and Oregon is almost always an erroneous part of every recruit’s top 5. My opinion is this is a Gerogia/Auburn/Penn State battle.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
Auburn got Dyer, too... so there's that.
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-J.V.Pa.
Wait.....USC as in South Carolina right? not Southern Cal?
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"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
USC = South Carolina
And from what I’ve heard, they are the front runner.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 9, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Why would any recruit want to go to South Carolina?
I think the ol’ ball coach lost that mystique awhile back. When was the last time they mattered in the SEC, let alone nationally.
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When they had this guy:
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, this guy:
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Not to burst your bubble...
but South Carolina matters ALOT to folks in the state here. It is a matter of state pride. I know that seems absurd, and will most likely get a lot of smart ass remarks from folks, but down here it is either Clemson or Carolina when you are a kid, that is the thing people talk about 365. So these kids get a big push from their families and friends to stay in state. You do see the top talent leaving, but the in state talent does seriously consider the two in state programs. Just two years ago the number 1 recruit in the country was Da’Quan Bowers, and he went to Clemson, there is a real pull there.
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by carolinaeasy on Dec 10, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but does South Carolina have a lot of pull nationally or in the rest of the SEC?
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 10, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
that means nothing when talking about an instate prospect
This guy doesn’t know what is talked about nationally. He hears what is discussed daily on the news here and on the television here, which has happened to show just about every South Carolina game on Prime Time down here this year. Of the 12 games they played like 7 or 8 were 7 or 8 pm starts.
They get great exposure and the SEC train of thought is that they will compete for the SEC east next year. They are a young team with a great defense. A returning junior QB and young receivers. Until you see the atmosphere and the coverage down here you really have no clue how much pull they have. How is a local boy going to know about what people in Pennsylvania think about USC? Or people in Cali for that matter? He only knows what he sees and I can tell your right now every day in the newspaper, on the news, and on ESPN he sees USC and Clemson.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on Dec 10, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don't pay that much attention to recruiting
I thought Lattimore was from the northeast.
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 10, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Nope he's all ESSS EEE CEEEE SPEEEEEED
At least until he leaves the South to go to school somewhere else
i didn't take any disrespect,
and if it was a northeastern prospect, I would agree with you 100%, but alas the problem is solved.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on Dec 10, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I meant no disrespect.
However, nationally they really haven’t been a factor in awhile.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
I'm not sure what you have heard
but the consensus down here in South Carolina is that he is leaving for greener pastures.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on Dec 10, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing premium, just the normal internet rumor mills.
If he’s leaving according to SC folks, then that has to bode well for us. I was under the impression, and correct me if I’m wrong, that he was USC’s to lose, and then we were pretty high as well. But then again, Robert Bolden was MSU’s to lose and look how that turned out…
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 10, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
I have heard a lot of talk about him being wide open
He really hasn’t taken a stance other than to say his top 5. But I will say this about him, he is on a team with 10 or 11 other Division 1 prospects in the senior class. Byrnes is a loaded team, he does get a ton of yards, but he is also playing on a much better team than just about everyone around him.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on Dec 10, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Re: Bolden
MSU was only looking to take one QB in this class. Once they got their QB was when Bolden came to us.
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 10, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno
South Carolina could just be filled with pessimists
by PSUisMyHeart on Dec 10, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
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