Just Stop It
by KevinHD on Dec 9, 2009 12:00 PM EST
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PrintThings have officially swung too far the other way, and it's kind of depressing. It used to be fisking was fun, but now with so many people quite literally begging for the attention and links, what's the point?
If you're interested you can watch a really long, loud commercial here.
And then see the 15 seconds of desperate attention grabbing afterwards.
If you don't want to watch, it goes like this: The worst non-BCS bowl game is, according to an expert from Rivals, none other than the Penn State-LSU Citrus Bowl. It's not Southern Methodist vs Nevada, not Iowa State vs Minnesota, but the one with the biggest payout that matches up higher ranked teams than any other available for selection.
Why? Because it's going to have "good defensive, hard-nose football," which is just awful, apparently.
And there are lies of course, things like "all season long both teams have really labored to score," which is apparently what it's called to finish second* in the Big Ten in, uh, scoring, and 19th amongst BCS schools in yards per game.
(*Behind only Wisconsin, who didn't have to play Penn State's defense, and who somehow played an easier set of OOC opponents than Penn State.)
What's probably most outrageous, and ends any believable argument that this guy is serious, is the idea that Joe Paterno, a bowl legend, and Les Miles, who hasn't lost a bowl game at LSU, don't drive a compelling story...or that the brand name of the schools alone isn't enough to make this watchable.
Because no one is even going to notices let alone care about--oh wait:
I think I'm supposed to be outraged by all of this. "WTF IS HE THINKING?!?" ect. But how can anyone even take this guy seriously?
Ridiculously under-thought "expert analysis" used to simply pass as truth, and that's how FJM and its less wide-reaching decedents starting do what they did (to some extent, I consider myself par to this crop).
But now fisking is such a big business, pageviews so clearly the #1 priority, that people are no longer doing this because they are arrogant, but because they really need the attention.
Jason King is an idiot, and the "work" he's doing is actually making people dumber, but there actually seem to be more of the Gregg Doyels around now than before FJM became a staple.
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...Capital "D" too
freaking clown!
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Dec 9, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I also like 15 & 25 vs 30
our conference may be slow, but our internet searches are SEC fast
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 9, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
History buffs
Probably a large number of people wanting to learn about the Great Schism of 1054.
by Cairo on Dec 9, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're not a history buff if you don't already know about the Great Schism of 1054
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Byzantines forever
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. "
George S Patton
by psu in the w-b on Dec 9, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
Surprised what with
Tiger Wood’s life lately you would think chasm would have a ton of hits.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
I do.
It’s a Brett Favre thing. He was interviewed over the weekend on one of the NFL pregame shows and said something like “I don’t even know what a schism is, I had to look it up.” Guess he wasn’t the only one.
Twitter: @scrappled
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Dec 9, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh brother
That douchea probably knows what a schism is. I’m betting this is just part of his folksy, blue collar routine.
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Don't hate...
JoePa knows a thing or two about that routine…
“First you’d have to tell me what a BCS is, I don’t know.”
Yeah, but at least JoePa doesn't make commercials for Best Buy
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
How am I supposed to know the difference?
Same thing.
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Favre stole it from Minnesota DL Jared Allen.
A few weeks ago someone asked him about a ‘schism going through the Vikings’ and he said, “listen guys, I didn’t even know what that word meant until now. I thought it was an STD or something.”
Clausen
I guess the pieces did fit
/pieces being his face and some dude’s fist
//reaching a little too far on this one
by Bob Sacamano on Dec 10, 2009 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
It really has gotten ridiculous
I get that 42-39 offensive explosions are fun to watch, and I enjoy them as much as anyone else. But this aversion towards defensive-minded football is just…..I don’t know…..stupid? Is it really that hard to appreciate good defense? I guess it’s just too much for some people to think about.
I hate 42-39 offensive explosions
And find them increasingly hard to watch.
Hey, look! Another missed tackle! Exciting.
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I wouldn't mind these types of offensive explosions
if they were representative of offenses just completely dominating defenses. Unfortunately that is very rare, and the usual culprits for these types of scores (when the games are actually watched) are blown coverages by inferior dbacks and missed tackles all over the field. Heck, even if it was just a power back breaking tackles all over the place that would be fun to watch, but I get sick of the “let me fly by and try to arm tackle you…oops that didn’t work” technique.
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 9, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
oh, and on the same line
I hate “defensive battles” that are really just incompetent offenses unable to execute.
Yes there’s a lot of chicken-egg in these arguments, but it is usually pretty obvious when a team is failing due to mistakes vs failing due to matching up with an equal or superior opponent.
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 9, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I think Clausen-to-Tate fits your exception
There is no love lost between myself and Notre Dame, but it was something to see Tate bring down some of those balls this year (the first half Hail Mary against Washington State is my personal play-of-the-year — maybe fifty humans on the planet make that catch). It reminded me of Fitzgerald as a sophomore, answering almost every one of Rutherford’s prayers.
On the other hand, FSU’s season became the standard bearer for unwatchable, fast-paced, high-scoring games.
No one is going to like...
…the BCS champ game because that will be all defense
WE ARE.......PENN STATE!
no it won't.
Texas doesn’t have a defense, despite the stats. 38-13 bama.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
I think Nebraska would disagree with you
I know they’re no great shakes at this “offense” thing, but even an absurdly incompetent team will get to 100 yards unless they’re playing a really good defense.
The fact that everyone’s counting Texas out has me convinced that they win.
Yeah, but...
I used that same logic before the 2009 Rose Bowl.
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 10, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think #12 was highlighted because it was thought that we might be sneaking into the Orange.
Or it could be something else entirely.
You're probably right, but
several other teams thought the same thing, I’m sure that helped the ol’ ranking a bit.
we highlighted 5 and 12
To try and emphasize that the orange and fiesta would’ve been better served to take us, our fanbase being uber awesome and all.
NittanyWhiteOut.com. Arguably the second best Penn State blog I know of.
by PSUdevon on Dec 9, 2009 1:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The point is the BCS game is less popular than Penn State's game.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Signal:Noise
Lacking.
Any six year old with an internet connection can look up stats. Jason King, apparently, can not.
Twitter: @scrappled
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Dec 9, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions
It's just garbage for garbage's sake.
And there seems to be a lot of it lately.
Hell CBS and Bleacher Report are building successful businesses on the fact that people will read crap they know is wrong just to tune and bitch about it.
I know about your diabolical plan.
This is an example...
….of just too much information in cyberspace. Everyone has a voice. I’ve never heard of this guy, won’t click the link, don’t care.
I think tv ratings are a pretty good assessment of “interest” in bowl games, we’ll see what those look like for all the bowls after they’re played.
What is fisking?
At the risk of being un-family friendly, does Kevin Jennings know what it is?
"Have I ever told the story of when I met Miley Cyrus?"
Slang for shredding moronic writing.
Bacon is almost as great as being a Penn Stater
Aka, the entire content of FireJoeMorgan, which, if you haven’t read the archives, go go go
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Dec 9, 2009 7:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
At least Geoffrey Canada came in ahead of Brenda Warner
There is some hope left in the world.
what does it mean
that the number 1 search for his name is misspelled?
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 9, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I don't get this take on it
Mark Schlabach from ESPN.com has PSU-LSU as the best game outside of the BCS, and actually has it above the Orange Bowl.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls09/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=4724361
And Mandel...
I cant tell if hes being sarcastic or idiotic when he says
If the Tigers win, it’s yet another example of the SEC’s superiority over the Big Ten. If the Nittany Lions win, it’s because LSU was without injured running back Charles Scott.
I take it as sarcastic and more as a shot against LSU fans
Mandel has long been against the Conference chest beating that occurs in college football. I think he’s just speaking as that stereotype.
"I'm driven by greatness" - Derrick Williams
He is an idiot.
He is up there with Todd McShay as biggest dooshebag working for a major sports network.
Mcdufuss
in my book is neck-n-neck with MM. In fact, he’s an adult tool now; thanks for helping with the “upgrade” cjj..!
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Dec 9, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Link fail.
But thats nearly the only thing he wrote about our game. He also ranked it as the best non-bcs game.
At least Eddie George didn't agree with that DBag.
Nor did “Raj” the host of the show.
Jason King looks like he hasn’t stepped onto any athletic field of any sort throughout his whole life…..other than to ask a coach or player questions……im surprised he appreciates sports at all.
"We are not normal. We are legends. We are Penn State." - Deon Butler
by Stately NOVA Lion on Dec 9, 2009 12:46 PM EST reply actions
Rivals listed PSU/LSU as the #6 game....certainly better than the Orange and Fiesta!
Personally I am excited about playing LSU! This is only the second meeting between the schools, both have a large fan base and national following, tailgating at the game should be a blast, and it should be a competive game as Joe PA “King of Bowl Wins” takes on The Mad Hatter……what’s not to love? Really can’t wait to see this one live in Orlando!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
I'm not sure what all the stink is about.
There’s no way I’m watching PSU - LSU. Pangasinan State versus Leyte State in a defensive battle?
It’ll probably be a reinactment of the Battle of Leyte Gulf: PSU defensive coordinator Halsey foolishly leaves the LSU right flanker uncovered to go chase Bobby Bowden to put him out of his misery once and for all. But PSU lucks out when the LSU right flanker mistakes a blitzing Sean Lee for a massive deployment of naval power, and runs off the field in a state of confusion.
The world wonders…
Bacon is almost as great as being a Penn Stater
by NittanyTide on Dec 9, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Halsey...ugh
History tells us that Halsey’s mistake was pursuing the northern force, but he was right to pursue the northern force with his carriers. Taking Task Force 34 with him was the dumbest decision in the history of the U.S. Navy, and was totally indefensible, not just in retrospect. Task Force 34 could have crushed any Japanese forces in the San Bernardino Strait.
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
No, that at least didn't cost the lives of hundreds of "tin can sailors"
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'm still confused by Halsey's fit upon hearing the "world wonders" message, even if it was intentional.
Even if the conversation happened behind closed doors, it would have been:
Nimitz: Kincaid is under attack. Could you ask TF 34 to help him out?
Halsey: TF 34 is up north with me.
Nimitz: You’re kidding, right? Does the phrase “tenuously vulnerable amphibious offensive” mean anything to you? Man, when I’m done tearing you a new one, McArthur’s gonna light it on fire.
Bacon is almost as great as being a Penn Stater
Maybe if the dumbass had actually told CINCPAC what his intentions were…
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
it all worked out in the end
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. "
George S Patton
by psu in the w-b on Dec 9, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
I know this book
Your conclusions were all wrong, Ryan. Halsey acted stupidly.
by PSU Mudder on Dec 9, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
What?
How can you say such a thing about The Fighting Sailor?
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
Huh?
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Oh nevermind
It’s been years since I’ve seen that movie. lol
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
can we all start calling Ramber "Ryan" from now on?
btw, GREAT movie, and now I have an urge to watch it again.
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 10, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
Jason King lost all credibility when he said “both teams really labored to score all year.” Honestly? Labored to score? Maybe the case with LSU (only because I don’t know) but I’m pretty sure that Penn State hasn’t "labored all year’ to score.
and yes, I’m so awestruck by his idiocy that i used his quote 3 times to make my argument. something that asinine deserves it.
For the glory
sounds like my friday nights
I’ve also really labored to score all year
"He's a beast. But so am I. So let the beasting begin."
by PSUtopia on Dec 9, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we labored to score in 2 games all year
against the #5 and the #10 scoring defenses in the country (PSU finished #4 by the way). That’s not too shabby. The rest of the games it was almost hard not to score.
So in conclusion, Jason King probably didn’t watch a single Penn State game, and if he did it was the Iowa and OSU games (which is unfortunately pretty typical, but honestly I didn’t watch too many other non-primetime matchup games of other teams, either)
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 10, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
"labored to score all year"
I bet he only watched the OSU/Iowa games, and formed his opinion based on those.
or maybe the first half of several games
"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"
Waw waw wawwwwwwwwww
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
As Rambler is my witness...
never again
by Mr. Rosewater on Dec 9, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
sort of like a pact with Satan
yeah, he’ll pull through, but in the end, something bad happens
by Mr. Rosewater on Dec 9, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hi, I have new product I like to share
It called “Conficker”.
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I probably don't need to spell out what I always read that as.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
It's like vowing to do something in front of the toaster or DVD player.
I mean, a machine isn’t going to hold you to anything.
Twitter: @scrappled
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Dec 9, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Your virus protection was weaker than usual
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Of the first 34 presidents, George Washington was definitely the worst.
Also, A River Runs Through It was the worst of the Legally Blonde series.
I know about your diabolical plan.
all GW did was rally a rag tag group of troops against the British, both of whom labored to kill each other, which is boring
Now Millard Fillmore…just WOW
by Mr. Rosewater on Dec 9, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
It was a defensive struggle
and no one was interested in the outcome. It was the worst war of independence that year.
No way man.
F*** Warren G Harding.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
No way, man. No way.
Fillmore knows how to reprezent!
by Mr. Rosewater on Dec 9, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
You're full of it
Harding was awesome.
Rutherford B. Hayes was from Ohio. Screw him.
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
He was no James Buchanan
Only bachelor president…..from Pennsylvania…….SWEET. Amiright?!?!?!
"He's a beast. But so am I. So let the beasting begin."
Ah, the "do nothing" presidency
Everyone assumes he did nothing to prevent the crisis forming in the country because he was incompetent. Maybe you have a point.
"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09
by ReadingRambler on Dec 9, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
He had as much a chance...
of stopping the civil war as the PSU offensive line would have in blocking Suh.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 9, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
PITT's in Pennsylvania too
is that Sweet?
Answer: No
by Mr. Rosewater on Dec 9, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lets give it back to the french
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. "
George S Patton
by psu in the w-b on Dec 9, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
hey...pittsburgh itself
is a great city. the school…not so much. but the city yes.
"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"
agreed cant argue with Primanti brothers
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. "
George S Patton
by psu in the w-b on Dec 9, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Harding lost Madisons china ina poker game +1 for awesome
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. "
George S Patton
by psu in the w-b on Dec 9, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Good to see Hangin' with mr. Cooper still has some relevancy.
"Have I ever told the story of when I met Miley Cyrus?"
"but now with so many people quite literally begging for the attention and links, what's the point"
After reading that, I totally thought that this post was in regards to SouthernMan’s “Shameless Plug” fanpost.
Dude watched two PSU games all year
Iowa & OSU. Extrapolates that we can’t score.
Whatever. I fully expect a can of WHUPASS to be opened on LSU.
by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 10, 2009 6:37 AM EST reply actions
Nothing worse...
… than when two ranked teams who are also storied programs that rarely play each other get together to play a football game. That sucks. Who would want to watch that? I mean, we might be exposed to actual defense being played.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
http://www.andthevalleyshook.com
by Poseur on Dec 10, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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