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Post-Gazette Bursts Its Own Credibility

[Fisk Tisk Tis the season, I suppose.]

Gene Collier wants you to know your team is garbage, even if he's never seen them play.

The notion that even a bogus election could get Penn State into the NCAA tournament is a perpetually suspect proposition...

Are the big words really necessary for a sentence that doesn't make any sense? What "election"? The selection is done by committee. And as far as the "proposition", Penn State has "perpetually" been legitimately in and out of projected brackets all over the internet.

Your big words do not fool me, I award you no points, and [you know the rest].

Ohio State, not two years removed from a spot in the national championship game against Florida, was clinging to some middling conference station and wasn't far removed from authentic bubble-team status even as most professors of bracketology were working with NCAA models that included Thad Matta's team in spite of itself. In other words, this event represented a bubble bigger than your head. Lose this one, and you pick gum out of your eyebrows for the next three weeks, which is no way to make it to distant March.

I'm really trying to stay on Gene's wild logic train here, but with this cross between loose tacky metaphors, forced figures of speech, and a words-per-sentence ratio that would give me a run for my money, I'm struggling.

But just to try and catch up, I think what he meant to say is that the loser of this game would find itself out of the NCAA tournament.

[T]he Lions might have let too many flattering angles get dulled by extended bursts of incompetence last night.

This would look better as a piece of art than some type of logical sentence, I say get the guy a paintbrush!

"We just didn't execute real well at times," said DeChellis, the Monaca native who still has a broken bubble's chance of getting Penn State into the NCAA tournament for the first time since 2001. "We dribbled the ball way too much. We didn't make the extra pass. We had some open shots we didn't make, and we took some really tough shots too."

Probably not as tough as some of the shots the bracketologists will be taking in the wake of the game.

Everyone take cover!  Big Ten Geeks:

The good news is that shutting the big three down is easier said than done, and so long as the Nittany Lions can take care of Indiana at home, they'll finish with at least 9 conference wins and 20 wins overall. Anything can happen on Selection Sunday, but I think most bracketologists would have Penn State playing on a neutral floor in April.

Oh, false alarm I guess.

But wait, what if Big Ten Geeks, who have spent the entire season previewing, reviewing and summarizing Big Ten basketball on one of those weblog thingies, doesn't know what they are talking about? I mean, what are their credentials? How many times have they been on Around The Horn or been allowed to argue with Stephen A. Smith? Exactly. What we need is an expert. A guy with by-lines who works for a newspaper!

Oh, how about Gene Collier, Pittsburgh resident and P-G writer, is he an expert? Well let's take a quick look at his back log.

His last ten stories are about: The Penguins, the herein linked, Tiger Woods, A-Rod, the Penguins again, Duquesne, Selig and the baseball union, the Penguins again, A-Rod again, Big Ben.

That's five sports in a little over two weeks. Based on the headlines, it doesn't look like Gene has written one single Penn State basketball story this entire season, maybe ever.

So, yeah, thanks for the insight.

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…APRIL!?

Wouldn’t that imply Elite 8?

by stonewall435 on Feb 26, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

Final Four, actually.

Dates here. That one got by me, but I think I get the point.

BSD

by KevinHD on Feb 26, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember...

…just getting the Sweet 16. Was on campus (Senior in HS but visiting friends) for the Temple game and subsequent riots. First time I ever got drunk.

by stonewall435 on Feb 26, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Also

don’t forget to check out some of the related links, I like the SBN platform change. SFBE had us in on Sunday.

BSD

by KevinHD on Feb 26, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

Funny

There’s this thing called parity, it occurs in sports occasionally — it’s when a normally mediocre team is slightly better than mediocre and must be given some recognition in the media for being better than average.

Now sports journalists, if you can call them that, HATE HATE parity. They all admit it. They say it’s because no one cares unless its one of 3 or 4 major names in the sport, otherwise it’s just boring. Collin Cowherd has a bit they re-run 8 times a day on ESPN radio between commercials about it.

I contend the real reason they hate parity is that sports journalists are lazy, vapid, and stubborn. They like easy stories that require absolutely no “journalism” and instead they pump out 500 words on something that’s 40% general knowledge and 60% opinion with absolutely no effort or consideration. They love TO, A-Rod, they love to write about the Patriots or Dallas, not because people really care more, but because those are EASY stories to write.

So when you have some team that’s not supposed to be worth writing about that is, well, that pisses these nimrods off. Instead of gasp putting some time and effort into a story like this — they write something nasty and vicious. They hate it when their boss walks in and says “Penn State basketball is half-decent this season, we need a piece on them”.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Feb 26, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

great point.

This reminded me a lot of a BTN story that read completely ignorant to anyone who has even a small amount of background knowledge.

It’s really sad, too, because the guy has a really great job and he is wasting opportunity when he writes crap like this.

BSD

by KevinHD on Feb 26, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Millzners hit the nail on the head

If it’s about the Yankees, Cowboys, ND, USC, or JoePa being old, these guys just recycle a previous article and change around a few of the words to make it sound exciting and new. Any other team and it’s “aw heck, I gotta do some work??”
I’m convinced that sports writers are the world’s greatest environmentalists – all they do is reuse and recycle.

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Feb 26, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Sports writers also LUV prognosticating

Parity makes it harder to judge who wins, and if they can’t figure out the outcome, they get cranky and self defensive. Billy Packer is a great example. I guess it makes them look exposed as just fans rather than experts or historians.

JoePa’s age is a huge pet peeve with me. Every article begins with “Joe Paterno, who happens to be 83,000 years old…” or “The Penn State coach has been working in State College since the Tyler Polk administration…” and on and on. Can’t read one article or watch one broadcast without being reminded that our beloved Saint is that much closer to death…

…unlike those sportwriters who are geniuses, young, sexy, and immortal.

by Mr. Rosewater on Feb 26, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutely

That’s the other half — they spend all preseason and the first 3 weeks writing artcle after article about how great Georgia is, what a great team they are, their QB is so dreamy, they’re just destined for the NC… oh wait, they lost? Crap, to who? Alabama?! They weren’t even supposed to be ranked this year! Crap, I didn’t write anything about them, how can I spin this to make it look like I wasn’t wrong when I made all those preseason predictions, so no one knows I’m really a hack who just likes watching football games… I know! I’ll say it’s b/c the EEESS EEEE SEEEE is so damn awesome even the obvious NC contender can lose a bunch of games! People love that crap!

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Feb 26, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Or

Just bump Alabama up to the top five on your ballot and start telling everyone how great they are instead.

by BSD on Feb 26, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

wait a second...

are you implying that anyone can argue with stephen a.? the man is so far above the unwashed masses that his opinions need to be yelled for all to hear and contemplate. o yeah, and everyone that disagrees with him a racist.

there, i said it.

World F#$king Champions

by psudrozz on Feb 26, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

I'm just glad he got his own blog

so that he can say what is really on his mind.

BSD

by KevinHD on Feb 26, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll never forget the “Stephen, you’re from PA but have no knowledge of college football, what do you think of Joe Paterno”

“Joe is too old, he should hang it up. He’s lost control of his team”

O’RLY?

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Feb 26, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i believe that

ESPN actually stated something along the line that stephen a. is a person who has a unique insight into the PSU community because he worked at a philadelphia newspaper……still, just as bad and thoughtless.

kevin-i went to his blog. i never will go back. is it even still up?

World F#$king Champions

by psudrozz on Feb 26, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to read the comments the first week

and was not disappointed. I haven’t been back since, but I did hear someone talking about it recently. I would feel better about myself if I didn’t go check, which I probably won’t.

BSD

by KevinHD on Feb 26, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

That's exactly right on the ESPN thing.

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by Run Up The Score on Feb 26, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

Like all of us, the first thing I think of when I hear the words “Penn State” is Philadelphia. Boy, those Philly sportswriters have ALL the dirt on Penn State… especially the ones who write most of their stories about professional basketball.

I’ve seen some stupid stuff on TV… and a lot of it has been on ESPN… but that interview with Stinkin’ A. Smith was unbelievably, inconceivably bad. What in HELL were they thinking??? Was he just hangin’ out at the studio that day with nothing to do, so they thought he might as well comment on something he knew LESS THAN nothing about?

by BSM PSU 93 on Feb 27, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Kevin - Spot On...

Disregarding Collier’s opinions, it was painful slogging thru his weighty language and sentence structure. Symptomatic of an Inferiority Complex….which is typical IMO of anyone who does not drink the Blue Kool-Aid.

by PSURob on Feb 26, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

Collier

Usually, I enjoy his articles, but jeez… this one had awful written all over it. He’s more of a humor guy who writes about the top sports news articles (which mostly involves the Steelers), so this was well out of his comfort zone, and it showed

by WPIALkid22 on Feb 26, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

You've got it all wrong

In case you missed it, Pitt is was number one, so everybody in Pittsburgh knows everything there is to know about basketball now. Hell, some people even pretend to like it, even though they don’t.

But after I saw the score yesterday morning, I agree with him. Seriously, do you really think this team belongs in the NCAA tournament? I’m not asking if you think they can still sneak in (of course they can), but do you hoenstly think they belong there?

I don’t.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Feb 26, 2009 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

That's Easy

Yes. Teams end up on the bubble because they are erratic, inconsistent, and can potentially lose or win every game. Hence the bubble and them not being locks.

by STU Boy on Feb 26, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they belong there

as much as any other team in the 50s to 70s RPI range. That’s the thing with all these teams “on the bubble” is that you can make a case for pretty much every one of them as to why they shouldn’t get in, but someone’s gotta go, so might as well be us ;-)

by The JuggerNitt on Feb 26, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree completely with you guys

I’d much rather take the word of a print newspaper columnist with a by-line, who is such a sports expert that they can masterfully and completely cover dozens of sports over the course of a year over some paltry blog by mere fans who only watch nearly every relevant game of their team and any other team they can. I mean if you’re not getting paid for it, then you must suck at it.

This goes double for BSD bloggers! A bunch of hacks! Remember when they had the gall to actually use video capture and/or statistics (all lies anyway) to make valid points in favor of their arguments? Now a real journalist would have just gone to the archives to pull up a recycled piece of semi-relevant information, since if it worked in the past, then it must be worth something, so let’s just use it again!

by The JuggerNitt on Feb 26, 2009 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Post-Gazette Columnists

And by columnists I’m speaking of Cook, Collier, Smizik (thank God he is retiring) are blatant Pitt homers. I cannot stand the stuff they write about Penn State. They constantly use unfounded logic to prop up Pitt athletics and put down Penn State’s. I remember a Cook article that asserted that Penn State was not a real “State School” because they don’t use as much state appropriated money as Pitt to fund their tuition. What does this have to do with Sports? I don’t know, but maybe it is because Oakland is a shit hole and instead of putting state funds into improving the town, they put it into tuition assistance. I have friends who go to Pitt and tell me that Pittsburgh is Shitsburgh because they went to Pitt for one weekend. Pitt is not Pittsburgh. Something happens when you get into Oakland and it takes away from the aura that is one of the cleanest, friendliest, most beautiful cities in America. Why any sports writer would want to convey Oakland-based ideals to the general public is beyond me?

The Post-Gazette is a great newspaper tainted by its sports columnists. The journalism in 95% of the paper is top-notch and far above the conservative crap of the Trib. It is a case where a few ruin the whole in the minds of many outsiders. Collier is a wordy, pompous ass. They let him write a tribute to the late-great journalist Myron Cope when he died earlier this year and I dry-heaved when I read it. It was a verbose slap in the face to a man who made a living conveying his enthusiasm and spirit through simple, emotion-based writing.

I wish the PG sports editor would hire a columnist that has had a chance to experience and take in life outside of the tri-state area for a few years. They might realize how great of a sports town they get to write in and also experience other unique sports situations inside and outside of the Commonwealth.

I will now step down from my soapbox.

by psdeuce on Feb 27, 2009 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

For folks in Pittsburgh...

what is considered the Tri-state area?

I always thought in terms of PA MD Del, or PA NJ Del.

pinkertonpark.com

by rahpsu92 on Feb 27, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

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