As The Blogdome Turns: Big Ten Recruiting Review

With the 2009 recruiting season more or less over, it's worth a quick look at how the team-specific blogdome reacted to their list of future players.
The Big Ten was top heavy as usual. Ohio State pulled what Scout calls the #1 class in the country (Rivals calls it #3). After that it is up to the reader to decide how the order goes. Michigan is the next Big Ten team on the list for Rivals, but Scout liked Penn State's class better. Either way it was a decent day for the top three name brands in the conference. As for some internal reaction...
- Illinois continued their celebration of Zookapalooza, although they lost out to some last minute snake oil when verbal wide receiver Kraig Appleton signed with Wisconsin.
- Indiana had its class signed by 11:15am, and it's either interesting or extremely normal to note that 17 of the 18 signees were dual sport athletes in high school.
- Michigan's class is well documented on the 45 related blogs, but for those interested Michigan Sports Center has charts and MGoBlog has your guest posted communist take (via WLA, of course).
- Minnesota locked down their home state, apparently, although no word on how southern recruits took the news that The U will be playing outdoors starting next year.
- Purdue took a more wide open approach: 70% of their class is from Florida and Boiled Sports notes that this is the first time since 1975 that the school did not sign a player from the state of Indiana.
- LTP has a short post on Northwestern's class, which comes in at #69 on Scout. They landed their first four-star recruit since 2002.
- Ohio State had a mostly disappointing signing day, missing out on wide receiver Marlon Brown and losing athlete Justin Green to Illinois snake oil. They still had an elite recruiting season, though, and 11W has a guest speaker look at the list.
- Bucky's 5th Quarter doubts Bielema's claim that not one single verbal commit "waffled" after their 7-6 season.
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FYI
The link to the communist article is the same as the link to Michigan Sports Center.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
by ReadingRambler on Feb 5, 2009 2:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"dirty talk about unicorns"
sounds hot.
This sound a little too Onion.
pinkertonpark.com - you owe yerself a laugh.
by rahpsu92 on Feb 5, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Waffling
Boy I can’t wait to see Beilema’s face after he goes 6-7 this season. I bet you’ll see a bit of waffling then.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
by millzners on Feb 5, 2009 2:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
tWWL
Boy do I have a vendetta against them. I’m picking up on all kinds of negative vibes from them. This time, it has to do with their continued lack of respect for the Big Ten when it comes to recruiting.
While Scout has tOSU’s class at #1, Rivals at #3, ESPN ranks them wayyyy down at #9 as the highest Big Ten class, followed by Michigan at #10.
Naturally, the top of the rankings are littered with OMG ESS EEE SEE teams and USC.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
by 06Lion on Feb 5, 2009 2:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, they are contractually linked
and coming off the last 3 MNC’s.
by Screen Name 20 on Feb 5, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you notice Jamelle Cornley's brother, Javon, signed with IU? He's a 6'5, 220 DL.
They signed a Javon, Jamonne, Damon and Colin (that’s a bit of a stretch). It’ll be nice if they all get on the field at th same time. Maybe they’ll sign some Beatles songs or something.
In Indiana B-Ball is king, so all F-ball players have to be dual sport in HS so they can talk and play hoops.
by PaJoe on Feb 5, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The best recruiting news is that
Zookapalooza did not “recruit” LJ Sr.
"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza
by NJ lion on Feb 5, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Michigan's class looks very strong.
Interestingly, Rod got twice as many kids from Florida (8) as he got from Michigan. Shall we begin to call them the U of North Florida? (Actually, I do like scUM and some of the other creative names used in BSD).
Since Je’Ron Stokes is now a Wolverine, he could fill in with the group from IU.
by PaJoe on Feb 5, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No Shit......
I missed that Stokes went to Michigan. On paper, in terms of measurables, that sucks.
To kick a dead horse…………since 2000 the SEC is 10-3 in BCS games and the Big 10 is 4-11. The SEC wins its BCS games by and average of almost 18 points per game while the Big 10 has won theirs by an average of 8 points per game. Same thing on the other side……….our losses are by 2 TDs and the SECs few losses are by 8 points. When the BIG 10 starts winning big games and winning them either regularly or win them convincingly……….you will never here our conference mentioned with the SEC.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on Feb 5, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
Je’Ron will realize after this season that he’d have greater success at [enter FCS team here] than at scUM, and will transfer, and yet another D1 talent will be wasted by getting wooed by the snake oil
by dawsonPSU10 on Feb 5, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeeeez
Someone should really tell the WLA two things:
1. The commies lost, and are still losing. Hell, even the Chinese are becoming more capitalist.
2. This photo is of the Soviet Army in Afghanistan. Where they lost.
Is there a point to this post? Not really, but I just don’t get why you would want to act like your Wolverines are a bunch of people who start off weak, then act all tough and strong for a while, and then lose badly to drunk Boris Yeltsin. Who knows, maybe that’ll end up being a microcosm of the Dear Leader RichRod Era. Except for the Boris Yeltsin part.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
by ReadingRambler on Feb 5, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not to piss on a decent recruiting class BUT
This will keep us competing, (not favored) for the top 2 or 3 spots every other season or so in a mediocre conference, not the top 2 or 3 spots in the nation. Perhaps the Big 10 has come back to us more than we have improved, (and we have). If competing for Big 10 championships is what we aspire to, that isnt the Penn State football I want.
by tr88 on Feb 5, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well unfortunately with the BCS
that’s about all you can control/aspire to.
In 2005, even if we were undefeated, we wouldn’t have gone to the MNC game.
In 2008, even with the same record as the 2 teams competing in the MNC game, we weren’t even considered for it.
As long as it is a subjective system based on polls by people who don’t watch a lot of games (coaches especially, but even the media, since they’re busy focused on their specific team), then teams who aren’t USC, Oklahoma, Texas, OSU, or from the SEC are going to have this disadvantage.
by The JuggerNitt on Feb 6, 2009 7:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh and of course
let us not forget 1968, 1969, 1973, and 1994
by The JuggerNitt on Feb 6, 2009 7:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's Not forget, USC's Second team had as much talent as our First team
Nonsense. Dont blame the polls, (Like 94) which are indefensible, but we are not an elite team right now and dont play in an elite conference. Had they been competitive with USC, especially in the Rose Bowl, you could make a case., but let’s face it, they blew us out. Let’s be happy just being competitive in the Bg 10.
WE ARE. Just OK.
by tr88 on Feb 6, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally Agree.
Rivals was sold to Yahoo for around 100 million and Scout was sold to Fox for 60 million. Like it or not………keep swimming upstream if you wish……..but your recruiting impacts the preseason polls. Its always been big in the South and with the acquisition of these two sites by Yahoo and Fox, its huge everywhere and now, I believe, plays a roll in how your team is mentally slotted with the fans, pollsters, and media.
Having said that, it obviously isn’t impossible to win it all with lower rates classes. However, like everything else in society people respond to offense and they respond to either underdogs winning (which the Big 10 hasn’t been doing) or favorites blowing other teams out in Big Games (which the Big 10 hasn’t been doing). All this leads to a perception that is frankly hard to argue against given the statistics. The SEC is the King of college football and the Big 10 has a lot of work to do. Even when Ohio State plays in the “big games” they either get blown out or they have to go 3 OT’s to win. You can’t do that when a lot of the people watching you may have only heard how great you are all year long and then the first time they see you you look mediocre at best. That leads to………well……..they didn’t play anybody which translates to the Big 10 sucks which translates to Penn State is over-rated which is subsequently corroborated when people pay attention to the lack of “star system” power we tend to give scholarships too.
Again……..having said that…….I don’t have a problem being a top 10 program. However, I don’t like to watch us look bad when playing agains the elite teams either.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on Feb 6, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, seems like Ohio St got their shot
3 NC games in 7 years. Quit Crying about the Big 10 getting cheated. If we have a good enough team, it will work out. Usually.
by tr88 on Feb 6, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't recall crying about the Big 10 being cheated
in fact I put OSU in the list of teams who get “passes”. And yes, there are teams in the SEC that would get similar treatment that PSU gets, I just felt it easier to list the conference than the 6 or so teams individually that get the benefit of the doubt.
But I think there is something to Penn State historically not getting the same level of respect as some of these other teams, even when they’ve proved to be just as good, or better. Both 1982 and 1986 Penn State was considered to be outclassed by their opponents. Neither year were they given a “chance”, and yet both times they won it all. Then there were the other years I pointed out that we were undefeated, and still got snubbed. I pointed out 2005 and 2008 just to show that even when we performed just as well in the regular season as the other teams, we still didn’t get considered for the MNC game (I made the assumption of being undefeated in 2005 still wouldn’t have gotten us in over USC or Texas just because those 2 programs were USC and Texas, and started out higher in the polls.)
As for PSU in 2008 in the Rose Bowl, yes they “blew us out”, and I’m not trying to make excuses or be like “if we throw out the 2nd quarter then we won that game” type of person, or “if Royster didn’t get knocked out of the game we might have won it”. But it is important to note that except for really just a couple plays in the second quarter we did hang with USC, and gave them as good as they gave us. We knew all year that our secondary was our weakness, and when you play a team like USC with tall, fast receivers, then they’ll be able to exploit that weakness. With that said, I don’t think any other team in the country, except Florida, would have done any better against USC. I think if we replayed the Rose Bowl 10 times, USC would probably win it 6 of those times, and Penn State would have won it 4. I still believe we were one of the best 3 teams in the country last year, and I’m satisfied with that. Would I have liked more? Of course, but we get what we get.
But, I wasn’t even trying to say any of that, I was just pointing out that Penn State could go undefeated every year, but as long as there are 2 more undefeated teams in the country, and those teams are USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Miami, or any “premier” SEC school (it would be impossible for OSU to also be undefeated, since we play them every year), then we will be relegated to 3rd place.
by The JuggerNitt on Feb 6, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, sorry, missed the OSU
My bad. I think if last season’s teams played 10 games against SC, 5 in L.A. and 5 in Beaver Stadium, they would probably win 7 or 8. They have more talent. It’s undeniable. When we both play our best game, no contest. I think losing Royster hurt a lot, but the fact is had they wanted to keep throwing on us, they could have scored at will. We couldnt get to Sanchez and we couldnt cover their receivers. They also go 4 or 5 deep at running back (among other positions), so if they lose a starter, just replace him and there is no change. Not us. It’s no disgrace, most of their first team will play on Sundays and so will a lot of their second and at some positions, 3rd team. I’m just saying we arent at that level.
Believe me, i think we have been disrespected, especially in 94 in the modern era, but we were downright awful in the early 2000’s so you cant expect to have the same respect and we are sufferring from the overall view of the Big 10 right now – and i think thats justifiable in this bad system. That being said, we were really co -champs of the Big 10, it’s not like we dominated. Had we beaten Iowa, we would have played for the NC, and would have deserved to, but without the best team. Stupid system, but it can cut both ways. If you think about it, SC had 1 loss and they didnt get their shot either. Which was a bigger injustice, us not getting a shot with one loss or USC?
by tr88 on Feb 6, 2009 9:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Depth
The significant thing about this class is not the marquee players but the depth we recruited. We got a lot of solid players in the right positions that have excellent upside. Depth is what separates the elite from the others, just look at our basketball team. Last night we lost because we basically rely on 3 players and as the season goes on, it’s taking its toll. That was the first time this season we lost after leading at the half and it’s going to get tougher.
Keep it in perspective
by JuniataMan on Feb 6, 2009 9:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
2005
Actually, if we had gone undefeated in 2005 we would have played in the BCS NC game. We were projected to have a higher BCS average than either Texas or USC, I forget which one.
by gradiology on Feb 6, 2009 10:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
source?
I find it hard to believe we would have been able to jump USC or Texas, who went 1-2 the entire season, while we had to move up in the polls, being unranked until week 5, and the polls are 2/3 of the BCS formula. I can’t imagine our computer score would have been THAT dominant to place us above either of those teams.
by The JuggerNitt on Feb 6, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1994
Agreed. 1994 Nebraska got a sympathy NC for Osborne. But that would not have happened in the BCS era as we would have gotten to play them head-to-head.
by gradiology on Feb 6, 2009 10:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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