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Maybin's drastic change leads to whispers of PED use

A lot of buzz is starting to go around the internet regarding Aaron Maybin's drastic transformation from a undersized DE to a hulking DE/OLB.  Maybin gained 25 pounds of rip since January.  Before and after photos are here.

I honestly don't think Maybin did anything illegal.  In this day in age, it just wouldn't make any sense, especially if you are going to have before and after photos online for all to view.  I know this doesn't mean anything but a lot of the comments on profootballtalk.com are suggesting that Maybin had some chemical assistance with his transformation.

Granted, he did get pretty huge, but if you have been working out every day since January 11th, eating healthy, lifting, running, you are bound to get big.  People are going to point to the fact taht he had trouble gaining weight at PSU, but during his workouts he is not strapped in pads running around in the heat.  I truly don't think Maybin did anything illegal, but in today's world of sports, everyone is guilty until further notice...and that sucks.

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If he........

weren’t a PSU guy, we would all be rolling our eyes.

Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.

"If you hear Ric Flair is in town......WHOOOOO........you KNOW things are takin' place".

Ric Flair

by ech2os on Mar 19, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that and also the fact that

Maybin is a good character kid who comes from a strong family also. We’re not talking about a kid with a troubled past here. Maybin comes from good stock.

by RNF18 on Mar 19, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm simply suggesting that.......

1) I’m no Charlie Atlas, but my bullshit alarm goes off when I see somebody add 25 pounds of muscle in 2 months.

2) If this were somebody else, all the he comes from a good family, hard worker, etc would be completely dismissed at blind faith.

I’m the last guy that wants Maybin to fail. I give these guys all the credit in the world for following their dreams. But, you just have to wonder when you are talking about that kind of bulk that quickly.

Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.

"If you hear Ric Flair is in town......WHOOOOO........you KNOW things are takin' place".

Ric Flair

by ech2os on Mar 19, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire

Also came from strong families, good stock and didn’t have troubled pasts.

I’m pretty sure upbringing has little or nothing to do with the use of PEDs amongst professional atheletes.

by NittanyBadger on Mar 19, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't look good, but...

…it’s not like Maybin didn’t have room to grow.

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by Run Up The Score on Mar 19, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also...IF he was really natural and just hitting the weights/eating right...

what does that say about OUR lifting / nutrition program???

It must suck balls…we could have used a bigger/stronger Maybin this year.

by SweepTheLeg on Mar 19, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I take the other stance.........

its our tutoring program that sucks. If we had better tutors these guys wouldn’t have to spend so much time studying and they could be working out like animals :)

Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.

"If you hear Ric Flair is in town......WHOOOOO........you KNOW things are takin' place".

Ric Flair

by ech2os on Mar 19, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Since he declared for the draft he has left school. He has no more practices to go to, no more classes, all he has done since then is eat sleep and train.

by whiteoutonly on Mar 19, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Class/All Weights

But when you have nothing to do all day but lift and train…no class, no practice…it is possible to get ripped. I bet Maybin hasn’t had a beer or pizza, or wings, or shitty food since he left PSU….it looks sketch, but i think he is fine.

PSU Softball

by QBsneak12 on Mar 19, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you just convinced me

NOT to go on his training regimen. I was all for it, to get ripped like that, but then this:

I bet Maybin hasn’t had a beer or pizza, or wings, or shitty food since he left PSU

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 19, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not exactly the same, but

after I finished up at PSU I altered my diet (4 solid, healthy meals a day) and started working out a lot more, and I put on ~40 lbs in 3 monhts (not all muscle, but I didn’t put on that much noticeable fat). Granted I went from ~170 lbs to ~210 lbs (at 6’2"), and that was without help of a physical trainer (and it was only going from “skinny” to “built”, instead of “built” to “freak of nature”).

Of course my training regimen has changed since then, and I’m down to ~195 with a lot more fat :-p

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 19, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough to say

Yes, there’s been a dramatic change in his appearance, but there has also been a dramatic change in his lifestyle.

He’s not taking classes anymore so he can focus 100% on putting in a solid four hours in the gym every day. And he has a personal trainer telling him every minute of the day telling him what supplements to take, what to eat, when to eat it, and when to sleep.

To come out and say it has to be steroids or even suggest it may be steroids without some kind of proof is very irresponsible and poor journalism.

by BSD on Mar 19, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

blogging = journalism?

I know you weren’t implying that, but I find profootballtalk to be one of the biggest bunch of foil-hat-wearing conspiracy theorists out there. Start with a fact or rumor (photo), add another semi-related fact (lots of steroid use recently in sports, mostly baseball), bake in a fast blog for 24 hours.

Blame Iowa!

by NittanyTide on Mar 19, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, that's the bitch about all the steroid problems

and even if he got tested and came out clean people will just say that he cycled properly, or that he was using some new, undetectable PED.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 19, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly

I didn’t even read the link, so I have no idea who these guys are.

by BSD on Mar 19, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poz

Looks like Poz trains at the same place (along with a bunch of the Steelers)

http://www.powertrainsports.com/index.php?page=ppoz.php

by psuquinn on Mar 19, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I had no idea that Sleepy Millersville

had a facility helping a pipeline of NFLers getting pumped. Someone at Powertrain must know what they’re doing.

Similar to all b4 and after, I imagine they show the worst before pic available, then shoot the after pic right after an intense workout while the muscle is ripped.

I’m not a scientist, so I can’t comment on the legitamacy of adding 25lbs of muscle in a few months. If it is legit, PSU needs to hire away a few of their trainers.

pinkertonpark.com

by rahpsu92 on Mar 19, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point........

about the before and afters.

Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.

"If you hear Ric Flair is in town......WHOOOOO........you KNOW things are takin' place".

Ric Flair

by ech2os on Mar 19, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it were "natural"

Every major college program in the country would be using these techniques. Why wouldn’t PSU have Maybin get bigger and faster last spring, if all it took were 2 months of working his tail off and modifying his diet. Alternatively, why wouldn’t Maybin have enlisted the help of these guys while still in college?

Look, there’s no trick here – bodybuilding and human physiology have been studied extensively, this performance training center has no secret to beat the laws of nature. It’s like a wall street hedge fund manager whose returns keep going up despite the market going down – at some point he’ll be exposed as running some sort of Ponzi scheme (see Madoff, Bernie.)

by DK Jr. on Mar 19, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't always been training for the NFL

Maybin was a beast in college, without this added weight, and while it would have helped, I don’t think you’d bust your ass for two months ignoring all other things including school work, when you’re already destroying people, just to gain a few extra pounds (and risking the loss of speed as well). I’m sure at the beginning of the season he wasn’t always planning to go to the NFL regardless of his numbers that season. What was the one criticism they had of him as an NFL end? Weight. And that’s been his sole focus he’s had for the past few months, and it’s paid off.

by dawsonPSU10 on Mar 19, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

I also read he was closer to 245 at the start of the season… Meaning during last summer he was at a similar weight as he is at now, regardless of the 2-month transformation. That means he WAS doing similar things to build himself up on his own he was only 10 pounds lighter… That doesnt’ seem terrible unnatural.

It’s likely Maybin lost a lot of weight throughout the season trying to balance class and football — not eating properly is a hallmark of the college lifestyle, so is eating cheap non-nutritious food. So you have a guy who’s weight should be closer to 240 actually losing weight by not eating properly and working out all the time while balancing academics — then he stops all that and goes on an expensive and highly scientific nutrition/exercise program and returns to his pre-season weight +10 pounds.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Mar 19, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always took those comments about his pre-season weight

to mean that he was listed at a higher weight than he actually was (sorta like that 5’11", 160 lb guy claiming to be 6’1" 200 lbs that everyone always knows…or similarly the girls who claim they are 5’9" 125 lbs when they’re really 5’7" 135 lbs)

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 19, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

The height/weight numbers are played with a lot – especially in the case of someone like Maybin, who was listed by PSU at 237 until NFL scouts started taking an interest, then he was getting listed at 245.

With our eyes we can see he wasn’t playing at more than 235 last fall, so if he weighs in the 250 range now I would say we are looking at a 15 pound increase in about 2 months.

Even an athlete with elite genetics is not adding 15 pounds of lean mass in 2 months without an anabolic agent. Adding 10 pounds would be incredible.

by DK Jr. on Mar 20, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how there are no pics of Bettis.

I guess it wouldn’t be good for business showing the “before” picture of his fat ass, then the “after” picture with and even bigger fat ass.

by Spats on Mar 20, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybin's routine...you're telling me that he couldn't put on 25lbs of rip? He didn't have fat on his body to begin with...

Intensive Full-Day Program
Our intensive full-day program is a multi-session 6-day a week program with focus on the individual athlete. Designed specifically for athletes preparing for a specific event of competition, such as the NFL Combine/Pro-Day, the program runs between 4-8 weeks, with a mimimum commitment of 4 weeks of training. Each athlete will spend an average of 4-6 hours a day of extensive performance enhancement training coupled with aggressive regeneration therapy allowing the athlete to maximize their true athletic potential. Our performance specialist will closely monitor and motivate each athlete on a ONE-ON-ONE basis, focusing on proper technique and exemplifying the positive emergy required to elevate each athletes confidence and intensity to the highest possible level.

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by QBsneak12 on Mar 19, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Personally.......

I’m not saying he could or couldn’t. I am simply saying that you have to wonder. Also, just pointing out that this is one of those instances where if these pictures were of a guy from USC or Florida, none of this effort to justify the difference as legitimat would be put forth.

Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.

"If you hear Ric Flair is in town......WHOOOOO........you KNOW things are takin' place".

Ric Flair

by ech2os on Mar 19, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that big a deal

Before and after pictures are a powerful marketing tool, probably the most powerful, that the professional strength training industry (and supplement industry) uses. Making the results look more impressive than the competition can achieve is the goal.

There are a whole bag of tricks that marketers can use to make them results look more drastic. Check out how washed out the lighting is in the first picture, then its much clearer in the second. His posture is different in the two pictures. Even the dark shorts/white shorts probably help make him look bigger. They also probably take the first picture when he is “flat” in the morning, then get the second picture right after a big workout.

By no means am I saying its all camera tricks: His back is f’ing hyuge now. But I think that coupled with months of a 24/7 professional strength trainer, you’re bound to see a drastic improvement. I don’t believe you would have to take steroids to see results like his, and if anyone could pull off those results, it’s someone like Maybin.

by rbz14 on Mar 19, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he also looks to be standing closer in the front facing "after" picture

though as you said, he definitely looks a lot more ripped nonetheless. I think the bigger issue is the claim of 25 lbs of muscle (but again, one could have been weighed immediately in the morning, while the next weight could be after a couple huge meals, plus a lot of water, etc)

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 19, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody can work out 4-6 hours a day

Without significant chemical help during recovery. He is definitely on “performance enhancing drugs” but so is every other NFL player. Whether or not those drugs are scheduled by the US government, or even tested for by the NFL, is an open question. But in order to consume the amount of calories he would need to add that much mass “naturally” in 2 months, given the calories he would be expending working out 4-6 hours a day, he could not help but put on body fat unless he was taking an anabolic agent.

The increase in the size of his face, in my opinion, suggests he’s taking some form of human growth hormone. Either that or his jaw muscles have rapidly expanded so he can chew the 10,000+ calories a day he’d have to be eating/drinking. :)

My concern is that adding that much mass that quick is certain to stress the rest of his joints. I would not be surprised to see him blow a knee before 2010.

by DK Jr. on Mar 19, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Increased speed

my only question is how does someone gain 25 pounds and get faster?

by bone man on Mar 19, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Please

This is just the same as people criticizing Ryan Howard for losing 30lbs in the offseason(he must be on drugs). Im not saying its impossible, cause it is, however these people for the most part have bodies capable of much much more than most of ours ever will be, even the most fit of us. I believe Michael Phelps had a diet of 100 gazillion calories a day and was in the pool for 6 hours a day, and the olympics have pretty good testing.(there was some story dring the olympics about it), apparently his only weakness was some mary-j, which I would be more concernec if maybinw as using. or something

"They ain't got the tradition to hold our nuts." - Deon Butler

by Roland86 on Mar 19, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts

He’s probably on something, but let’s face it — he wasn’t really very ‘ripped’ before. He was skinny and had trouble putting on weight. I think if you take a kid with that kind of frame and give him some kind of 21st century nutritional and exercise program designed for his metabolism this transformation isn’t out of the question.

It IS a little sketchy, but like I said it’s not like he was jacked and THEN put on another 25 pounds — he simply went from skinny to jacked in a really short time period.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Mar 19, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

New thought

Find out what he weighed at the begining of the season last year, if it’s within 10 pounds of where he is now, this was nothing more than a guy who lost a lot of weight by not eating properly and working out a lot. The transformation was quick, but it may be because his natural weight should be closer to 250 than 225.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Mar 19, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Steroids

Without making any comments on Maybin’s case specifically, I always simply assume that every football player — especially linemen — are using some sort of PEDs. Despite all the outcry from folks about baseball, no one really cares much that the NFL’s testing is a sham and when people do end up testing positive, there’s little complaining that goes on.

If Maybin is using PEDs, it’s just keeping up with the Jones.

by Laaaaazzz on Mar 20, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, Of Course...

If you knew that essentially the only thing keeping you from being a first round (and possibly top 10) pick in the NFL draft was your small size, wouldn’t you be working your tail off? Of course he was working out non-stop and taking supplements, but it’s anyone’s guess whether those were illegal or not.

And yes, the photos are using a little bit of trickery. The worst photo should be kind of a crummy shot that doesn’t have a lot of contrast in it, thereby not showing much definition in his muscle mass. In the after shot, fire up that Photoshop and tweak the contrast to show some of the defined-muscle goodness.

by smashtheguitar on Mar 20, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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