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Which is better?

Which is a better outcome for the team:  Making the tourney, maybe going one & done or at best making the second round.

OR

Playing well in the NIT, getting 4 or 5 games under their belts, including another good road win and a win without a soon-to-be departing senior?

 

Sure, the NCAA tourney gets more attention, but does anyone remember the 10 or 11 seeds from one or even two years ago?  Not saying that anyone would remember the NIT champion two years from now; instead, I wonder if the added practices & games might prove advantageous in the long run. 

 

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Which is better: One game in the NCAA tourney or a deep run in the NIT?
NCAA, even with a first round loss
57 votes
NIT run to the Final Four
98 votes

155 votes | Poll has closed

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If we're talking a definite first-round NCAA loss

I’ll take our current situation any day. This is better for the team in the long run.

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by Run Up The Score on Mar 25, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Also, I'm sad that "Fire Curley" isn't a choice.

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by Run Up The Score on Mar 25, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

At this point

“Fire Curley” is insufficient. They have to put his head on a pike on Old Main lawn as an example to all who follow him. It’s the only way really.

I voted for the NIT run. It’s good to get younger players some tournament experience, and more importantly tournament success.

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by jesse. on Mar 25, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I based my thinking on "no more than one win"

I figured that Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin – the last three Big Ten teams in went 2-1 in the first round and 0-2 in the second. Take one of them out and replace them with us, would we have done any better? Maybe, but probably not.

by Tailgate Shogun on Mar 25, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's positives to both

From a recruiting standpoint it’s better to make the Tourney. From an experience and practice standpoint it’s better for the younger guys on the team to play a few more games and practice a couple of more weeks because of the NIT. The NIT has given us tournament experience and given our guys a taste of what it’s like to play good competition back to back. The road win in Gainesville is huge for this team’s psyche. They know that they can go into a good OOC team’s house and take their lunch. This NIT run will pay dividends next year! Hopefully they schedule smarter next year. We don’t have to schedule Duke, UNC, UCLA, Texas, Georgetown, and Villanova next year. We just can’t schedule NJIT and their friends.

by RNF18 on Mar 25, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd say the NCAA bid would still be better than a Final 4 NIT run

just because it would make people believe the team at least deserves to be mentioned on the “national” scene. If we go to/win the NIT finals, that would probably be better because then we’d have the added experience, plus the knowledge that we were good enough to win the NIT, we were probably good enough to at least be IN the NCAA (and perhaps even good enough to knock off a team or 2).

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 25, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

The NIT is a heck of a lot more fun for us

But an NCAA bid and loss would be better overall for the team.

So I voted for the NIT run, I’m selfish like that.

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by psu on Mar 25, 2009 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

It's Curley's fault that your selfish

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 25, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

NCAA Tournament

everyone wants to make the big dance, not the little one….

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by QBsneak12 on Mar 25, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

For the players, sure.

Fans, sure.

I was thinking more about the long-term benefit to the program.

by Tailgate Shogun on Mar 25, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Learn to crawl before you learn to walk

make a deep run in the NIT before you are capable of moving forward in the tourny

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by millzners on Mar 25, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Tough choice

For this team this year at this point in our program I think this NIT run is perfect. It sucks for Mel, Pringle, and Morrissey, but it’s giving the program great exposure. The road win over Florida is going to open some eyes as is just playing on the court in Madison Square Garden. It will open the eyes of recruits and it will open the eyes of other schools when we go to put together our schedule next year. Teams don’t look at us as an RPI killer anymore so we should be able to get some better competition. And hopefully it has caused Ed and Curley to believe we can compete with that competition.

by BSD on Mar 25, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice segue

From Pringle to exposure…..

by jtothep on Mar 25, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

After my vote

22-21 in favor of NCAA. Can’t get much closer than that, excellent question.

by STU Boy on Mar 25, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Also

Arizona is in the Sweet 16 — it’s harder and harder to say we were ‘robbed’ so much as there were just a lot of really competative, good teams on the bubble. The selection comitee seems to have gotten it right.

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by millzners on Mar 25, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

NIT final four run

See 2000 to 2001 — tournament experience paid dividends there and had Jerry Dunn called a timeout against Temple, we might have gone to the Elite 8 in 2001.

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by WFY on Mar 25, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Random

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ys-uconnphone032509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I’m not a fan of Rivals, but I really believe when he tries Dan Wetzel can be an excellent investigative sports journalist. Of course since this is Calhoun and not a pariah like Sampson he probably will receive a slap on the wrist, but this sounds like a lot of shady business happens in Storrs. The NCAA probably will not act on it since they love their big programs to look clean (like them sweeping the Clarett thing under the rug).

by STU Boy on Mar 25, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

This is why there should be no sentence-ending punctuation in a word.

The University of Connecticut violated NCAA rules in the recruitment of former guard Nate Miles, a six-month investigation by Yahoo! Sports has found.

Sports has found. Sports has found what?

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 25, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Al Capone's vault

Sports did better that Geraldo Rivera

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by psu on Mar 25, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and my crazy conspiracy theory

Kentucky hopes that this series will expose Gillespie, someone known the bend the rules in regards to hiring AAU coaches, in breaking some minor rule so they have an excuse to fire him after two seasons in this economy.

by STU Boy on Mar 25, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

NIT

We’re in the semis…one game away from the finals, two away from winning the whole thing. You win the NIT, and everyone knows you belonged in the Big Dance. That’s what I believe, anyways.

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by Cpiritual27 on Mar 25, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

If nothing else

Going to the NIT final four turns heads on the selection committee and pundits for next season. We should get more favorable press and people will mention we went far in the NIT suggesting we may have been robbed of an NCAA spot.

by BSD on Mar 25, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

And on the flip side

If we had bowed out of the NCAA early in a 20 point loss to some mid-major school, people would be saying it was a mistake to send us in the first place.

by BSD on Mar 25, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

what you mean

like OSU or Utah or Clemson (ohh wait they lost to Mich) or Illinois…shall I go on

by Lion Alum on Mar 26, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

NIT/NCAA

-Making it to the NIT Final Four doesn’t supplant an NCAA berth and early exit to me. Winning it does. I voted for NCAA Tournament because the way the question was phrased. Talk to me in a week, and I might vote for the NIT.

-Getting on the court at MSG is big. Pitt built their program by recruiting NYC players who got to see them play there every year in the Big East tournament, and getting exposure in that basketball hot bed. While I wouldn’t like making a habit of going to MSG for the NIT Final Four, theres no doubt its a positive step.

-Is it the prospect of getting to the Garden that excites us, or is it this team? Remove the drama of the last couple months from the wins we had, and would we feel differently? What if Penn State beast Illinois and GMU at home by comfortable margins rather than with buzzer beating shots? What if Cornley doesn’t injure himself and still battle through the pain? What I’m getting at is that I think this collection of players might be what gets us excited, rather than the results. I love this team as much as I’ve loved any team I’ve ever rooted for because of its character. They’re galvanizing, and I think its possible that they, more than their success on the court, is what is driving the excitement behind the team to the point that people are treating the NIT Final Four like a bowl game. The players are the ones that have brought us together, not their results.

-I still feel like we took an NCAA bid away from ourselves, and the kool-aid and excitement of the last few games hasn’t changed that. Its easy to say “We might have lost big, and no one wants that”, but look at the draw Arizona got, which, had we played at decent schedule, could have been us. Utah, then Cleveland St for a chance to go to the Sweet 16? I think we could have handled that. Fire Curley.

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by Adam Bittner on Mar 25, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

It's close

but I still think it’s the NCAA. Although all of us are watching the NIT, it just doesn’t carry weight with the average college basketball fan. You play your season to get to the Big Dance, not the little one.

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by Deezy24 on Mar 25, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't know which is better

but i know what’s best.

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kind of like what our team is going to lay down on notre dame.

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by psudrozz on Mar 26, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

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