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Phil Taylor Cares Not For Your Rules

As you'll recall, former PSU defensive tackle Phil Taylor was booted from the football program shortly before the 2008 season, along with Chris Baker.  Baker ended up at Hampton, and currently projects as a second day NFL draft pick.  Taylor landed at Baylor, with former Penn State defensive backs coach Brian Norwood, who is now the defensive coordinator in Waco.

ESPN.com's Big 12 blog recently ran a feature on Taylor's second chance at football, praising his combination of size and quickness.  Adam Rittenberg, who writes The Four Letter's Big Ten blog, noticed a few not-so-subtle digs at Joe Paterno and Penn State:

Taylor didn't want to discuss Penn State too much, but he did say he was treated unfairly "because there were a lot of others in the same situation for similar things there."

There was also this tidbit:

"He is already struck by the difference in the leadership styles of Baylor coach Art Briles and [Joe] Paterno.

'I've been around a lot of teams, but here, it's more loose,' Taylor said. 'The coach lets us have fun. We still work very hard and do the things that we are supposed to do. But it's not quite as regimented as it was there -- do this, don't do that.'

The feeling around the program is different, too, Taylor said.

'Here, they treat us more like adults,' he said."

That's certainly a dig at Penn State, which has an old-school culture largely because of its old-school coach. But Paterno was in a pretty tough spot last summer after Penn State's reputation had been challenged. Many viewed his dismissals of Taylor and Baker as reactionary moves. 

Bitterness.  It ain't pretty.  It's as though he can't comprehend that fun is what got him banished to the basement of the Big 12 South.

Taylor will almost certainly attract the attention of NFL scouts -- his physical potential is practically boundless, after all -- but it'll be interesting to see if he can ever get his head screwed on straight.  

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Fire Curley.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Mar 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

There's differences in leadership styles

and there’s also differences in results on the field…not saying they’re directly related, I’m just saying…..

by Screen Name 20 on Mar 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

You beat me to it

4-8 and loose as a goose

11-2 and regimented

I’ll take regimented please!!

by RNF18 on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm grinning from ear to ear

Oregon State beat Pittsburgh on 12/31/2008 by a score of 3-0 (on the road!)

by RNF18 on Mar 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then you choose (any team) vs. PSU

and you see: Pitt beat Iowa; Iowa beat PSU. GRRRRR…

by Screen Name 20 on Mar 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess they don't count the bowls?

I heard if you try that, you get a paradox, and their server explodes since we were all 1-1 with each of the three.

by dawsonPSU10 on Apr 1, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a website...

….designed to show that any team can be made to look better than another with the transitive property failure. Just switch the teams’ positions.

by stonewall435 on Apr 1, 2009 5:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interestingly enough,

I figured it’d be interesting to do something like us and Oregon State where Penn State beat Oregon State who beat USC who beat Penn State… and so on…

but this calculator just stops at head-to-head…

too bad real football doesn’t work that way…

by AdamShell on Apr 1, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

5th in the Big 12 South

or Top 2 in the Big Ten….hmmm i don’t know Phil. Who needs Phil when we have this guy…

PSU Softball

by QBsneak12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Guess he never realized that winning is more fun.

That is the true crime. What kind of kids are we raising these days that don’t realize winning is more fun?

by WPIALkid22 on Mar 31, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The kind that would prefer

receiving a medal or trophy for participation.

"You are a tenacious little monkey!"

by rahpsu92 on Apr 1, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

We weren't Top 2 in the Big Ten

We were #1. Let OSU say they were Top 2 in the Big Ten. We got the trophy and we got the bid.

by RNF18 on Mar 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I bet watching us win the conference and be in the mix for a NC really burned him up inside.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Mar 31, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Riddance

He damaged the PSU name and didn’t care.

Kath?

by psuphiman80 on Mar 31, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Phil Taylor is not the first person

to complain that Joe Paterno doesn’t necessarily enforce the rules consistently. He dosen’t by the way. I’d be pissed too.

But the comment that “they treat us like adults” rings hollow out of a guy who was out causing trouble and got kicked off the team for it.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Mar 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

LJ Sr., as I recall...

…was super-pissed at how Joe treated Taylor. We don’t necessarily know what went on behind the scenes. But yeah, that “they treat us like adults” line is what derails his entire argument.

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by Run Up The Score on Mar 31, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree...

as I am pretty sure his inability to act like an adult is what got him in trouble in the first place. I vaguely remember my parents scolding me with a line to the effect of “you want to be treated like an adult, try acting like one.” Nevermind that I was 26, its the point of the statement I am referencing.

Also, someone should have told him that the Big (And One) 12 may not be the conference to make his mark as a top flight defensive player. Just saying.

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by NittanyAlum02 on Mar 31, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

"they treat us like adults"

apparently you’re not an adult unless you get in trouble

by WPIALkid22 on Mar 31, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

JoePa doesn't need to treat everyone the same

He needs to be fair to everyone and he is. Joe doesn’t go out looking to put kids in the doghouse, they do that themselves. If they stay out of trouble then they won’t have any problems with Joe. If they get out of line, then you better believe their status on the depth chart is going to impact how severely they’re punished. That’s life! Does everyone think Michael Jordan was treated the same as others on his team?

All are punished to some extent when they get out of line but it’s absolutely the discretion of JoePa to determine how extensive the punishment is. If Phil didn’t like that, then he should have kept his nose clean!

by RNF18 on Mar 31, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's easy for you to say

You weren’t the one kicked off the team.

Nobody is disputing that Coach Paterno is entitled to do what he wants, but when one guy gets suspended and another is other kicked off the team, the guy who gets kicked off the team is going to be pissed.

Does everyone think Michael Jordan was treated the same as others on his team? Really? Is this the policy? Who would be comfortable if it was? I thought everybody is the same was a pretty big hallmark of what we do. What with the uniforms and the shoes and all.

Too much consistency is a sign of stupidity. It demonstrates the inability to discern distinctions between seemingly similar situations. This is not Joe Paterno’s problem. Hubris, stubbornness, unwillingness to explain his decisions to the mere mortals that surround him, these are his problems from time to time.

What Phil Taylor did was bad more because of when he did it, not so much what he did. But I’m sorry, that has got to be a tough pill to swallow for the kids that wind up at Hampton and Baylor, while Maurice Evans gets, essentially, a pass. Call it life all you want, just don’t try and sell me fair.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Apr 1, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

May no act of ours bring shame

to one heart that loves thy name.

by BSD on Mar 31, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Brandon Ware

Does anyone else think the big guy looks like Finch from the Goldie Hahn movie Wildcats?

by ShaunC on Apr 1, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

The wrong path

Taylor choose his own path, not the coaches. If he was such an adult he would have been able to make better decisions.

by fightonstate23 on Apr 1, 2009 2:10 AM EDT reply actions  

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