Cael Sanderson And The Post-Paterno Era
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Cael Sanderson is now the wrestling coach at Penn State, you might have heard because despite college wrestling being off the radar in most of the country, it was still picked up by USA Today, papers all over IA and PA, and for some reason, the Denver Post.
There are two interesting things about this, and reasons why even you, Penn State Is A Football School Fan, are interested in the story.
One. Cael Sanderson is, as they say in San Diego, the balls.
The short list goes like this: his four-year record as an Iowa State wrestler was 159-0 -- you probably figured this out, but that was good for four individual national titles. Two years after graduating, he went on to win a gold medal in the Olympics, then went back to his alma mater to coach the sport he dominated.
Two. The Indy Star reports that Iowa State's athletic department budget is only $29 million, yet they employed the highest paid wrestling coach in the nation.
So when Troy Sunderland resigned after a disappointing season, Tim Curley did the exact opposite of what I expected: he called the biggest name he could find, who was also making more money than any of his peers, and offered him a raise. Not exactly the approach he took with DeChellis, and not exactly what anyone is expecting when the time comes to hire a new football coach.
The kicker is that the guy has zero ties to Penn State, other than winning one of his national titles while it was hosted at the Jordan Center, but was simply the best available candidate.
There is wild speculation that Cael is making "a million dollar(s)", but the man himself is claiming to have accepted "less then a 10% increase" in salary*. The rumors were more along the lines of this:
via bhgp
RUTS pointed out via email that there may be endowment or booster money here, dollars that wouldn't show up in his true salary, highly possible but also difficult to determine.
So finally getting to football. I was pretty excited about this because, even if TB or LJSR are up to the task of successor, it means the AD might at least go after a hot shot and maybe even pay him something along the lines of market value. Spanier has insisted over and over again that an SEC-salary coach isn't in the cards, but, I mean, if we'll do it for wrestling...
But then my right brain kicked back in. Ten percent of $110K isn't much, and even with the raise, Paterno is still making over four times that -- making four times that, and considered the best deal in college football. Take 10% of one of the top go-getters in a revenue sport (Saban, for example, who's making around $4M), and that is still three times what Cael is going to pull in at his new gig. Just as a raise, remember. Even with donor money on top, wrestling coaches aren't exactly the target market for Rolls-Royce.
Besides, there is interesting yet admittedly circumstantial evidence that the AD Jamie Pollard isn't the easiest guy in the world to work for. The rumor I found on Clone Chronicles was that Cael didn't even let ISU counter-offer, which seems to be in line with Pollard's comments during the Chizik debacle, specifically the one about how the former Cyclone football coach wouldn't respond to calls to text messages while being courted by Auburn.
Pollard after the Cael to PSU announcement:
In the end, Cael said that he appreciated everything Iowa State and our fans had done for him but he believes winning a national championship will be easier at Penn State
I doubt the direct quote was 'easier', but when you get dumped that hard it's easy to misremember things. Cael responded on his blog with the high rode, but as said best by Clone Chronicles:
I guess what I do not understand is that if you love ISU so much, think that Jamie Pollard is a great AD, then why do you leave? He said he got less than a 10% pay increase from last year, it clearly isn't about money (if he's telling the truth).[...]
Something just doesn't feel right.
For those of you who do want to know the actual wrestling implications. Cael made a DWillesque comment on his blog, explaining that "[t]he opportunity to step in and awake a sleeping GIANT is exciting." and "[t]he potential is unbelievable"; the first sentence is coachspeak but the second one is probably true. Why? Well take a look at these numbers I shamelessly lifted, unverified, off of the comment section at BHGP:
All time # of NCAA champions from Pennsylvania high schools: 72
Number that attended Penn State: 11
Number that attended other PA colleges: 31
Number that attended Iowa: 0
Number that attended Iowa St.: 3
Number that attended other out-of-state colleges: 27
All time # of NCAA champions from Iowa high schools: 74
Number that attended Iowa: 24
Number that attended Iowa St.: 26
Number that attended other Iowa colleges: 14
Number that attended Penn St: 0
Number that attended other out-of-state colleges: 10
So, yeah, I'm buying it.
I also urge you check out The Official Unofficial Source Of All Thing PSU Wrestling(R), Galen@TNL, who writes about the team even when they aren't in the USA Today. And yes, that link comes free with a dancing monkey.
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Pretty exciting news.
Also one of the funniest typo’s i’ve read in a long time.
So finally getting to football. I was pretty executed about this because
by platnumkid on Apr 21, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I got busted by RUTS.
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by Kevin HD on Apr 21, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BHGP
Your source for pictures of cash money.
Penn Staters belong at Penn State. The problem with a lot of kids is they just don’t know they are Penn Staters yet.
Noli nothis permittere te terere.
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Apr 21, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What’s funny is I have no idea who the actual ‘source’ was for that, as in where they were leaked. I don’t feel like looking it up but it was probably a facebook thing, in which case I probably don’t need to reference anything at all. If SBN didn’t auto source I would probably do it a lot less.
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by Kevin HD on Apr 21, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is incredible
While I fully understand that very few people can appreciate the implications of bringing in a name such as Cael it truly is a serious commitment by PSU to winning a national championship. He brings with him instant name recognition across the entire country. Short of having Dan Gable (stay with me…lets call him the Joe Paterno of wrestling coaches) we could not have done much better. I will be shocked if recruits are not lining up to come to PSU. I agree completely with Kevin that bringing in such a high profile non-PSU affiliated coach will also likely be a benefit to the entire university.
I know we always seem to win national champioships in sports other than football and its not as much fun to brag to your friends about fencing (unless its about nailing one of those cute little fencing girls), but PA is a heavy wrestling state and this could help with revenues.
We are not normal. We are legends.
by NittanyAlum02 on Apr 21, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dan Gable has a wrestling room in his guest house...true story
PSU Softball
by QBsneak12 on Apr 21, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I refer to the bedroom as 'the wrestling room' .... FWIW :D
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by TheMightyErik on Apr 21, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Revenues
I somehow doubt this will help with revenues, especially if the expenses (Cael being the highest paid coach in the country) will now be higher as well.
And personally, I don’t see much diffference between hyping a women’s volleyball championship versus a wrestling one. If it’s not football or basketball, it’s simply not a big time sport.
by Laaaaazzz on Apr 21, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball
winning the college world series would be a big deal too…hell just making the field would be nice.
PSU Softball
by QBsneak12 on Apr 21, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I would kill to have a good baseball team up here, baseball is equal to college football in my favorite sport category.
Black Shoes.
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by Roland86 on Apr 21, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The southern schools imo have a huge
advantage in baseball.
Keeping your muscles warmed up is tough enough in “active” sports, but when you spend 99% of your time stading around or sitting as in baseball your hamstrings are going to scream at you. Anybody hit a 90mph fastball in 40 degree weather?
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Apr 21, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I've never hit a 90mph fastball in my life
I can just imagine it would make my hands feel even more broken than they do after hitting 70mph balls in cold weather
by The JuggerNitt on Apr 21, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you..
for completely missing my point. I said that I realize you can’t brag about it to your friends (which is why i compared it to women’s volleyball), but it does help the sports programs as a whole to have some that are succesful. PA is a heavy wrestling state, and a top caliber team will bring people in. Some programs can’t even support themselves, that will not be a problem here. PSU has historically been a solid wrestling program, this will only help put them into the top tier. That’s all i was saying. If you aren’t a fan you aren’t a fan. I just think its good for the school in general to be pulling in top coaches for their programs.
We are not normal. We are legends.
by NittanyAlum02 on Apr 21, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know how the athletic dept doles
out funds?
Do they run it like a business with each sport as a cost/revenue center and based on a multitude of factors including performance, revenue, etc, decide to increase funding to a certain sport?
or
Is it run like the government where are long as you spend your entire budget you can pretty much expect to get the same or better next year?
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Apr 21, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As they're all cost centers minus the Big Dog
My informed opinion is option 2.
by Tailgate Shogun on Apr 21, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree with what you are saying in this post. I guess I misunderstood you in the previous post in that I thought you were suggesting that because wrestling is “big” in PA, that winning a national championship in it would be more brag worthy or significant than one in fencing (or volleyball, etc.). I just don’t think that that is the game — olympic, non-revenue sports are olympic, non-revenue sports and doing well in wrestling might impress a segment of fans but not really make a blip on the overall reputation of our athletic department.
I love the hire, I love the willingness to go out and get the best. I particular enjoy the fact that he has no previous connection to PSU. I hope we follow the same pattern in other sports when the need arises. I don’t think it will make wrestling self-supporting though. The revenue pototential just isn’t there IMHO and now you’ve increased costs by paying more to the head coach. I wonder, though, is there any wrestling program nationally that is self-supporting?
by Laaaaazzz on Apr 21, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my attempt to...
make a joke about nailing one of those fencing girls that might have gotten confused. Its not going to matter much to the general public if its not bball or football I completely agree. My point about it being “big” in PA was that we have a lot of in-state talent and a lot of support for the sport in general compared to other states that we can capitalize on.
As much as I’m sure money was the driving factor, I can’t help believe that he also sees recruiting in PA/OH (two top wrestling states) as an easier road than in the state of Iowa (where no matter what ISU is essentially the little brother). While he will compete in conference with Iowa now, his recruiting grounds will be a bit different and could actually give him another advantage. As someone said previously, I think we will see a turnaround in our program very quickly.
We are not normal. We are legends.
by NittanyAlum02 on Apr 21, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iowa Wrestling...
for lack of a better comparison is the UCLA (Wooden days) of basketball or the USC of football…they are expected to win national championships every year.
you were right, at ISU, he was always getting leftovers…even though he was/is Cael Sanderson…now he can show the bling in PA and keep the boys from Edinboro, Leheigh, etc
PSU Softball
by QBsneak12 on Apr 21, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing.
I don’t know how many of you have ever wrestled competitively, but the dudes that wrestle big boy wrestling are absolute animals. 159-0……….If ESPN put out a top 10 athletic feats of greatness that would have to be in the top 10. Unreal.
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by ech2os on Apr 21, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
Not to mention he was was the Outstanding Wrestler (grappling’s MVP equivalent) all 4 years at the NCAA’s.
Yes- -wrestlers know he’s da Meng.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Apr 21, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if you'd call what I did
‘competitively’ (I rocked a sweet 0-12 my senior year—even miraculously pinning myself against the one clown I was better than), but I was on the mat enough to recognize this as well. I was a real bad-ass in elementary school tho! Eric’s right, and many sports fans don’t even need to have been wrestlers to recognize it, but four years of undefeateds against that competition is ridiculous. Easily, also imho, in the top 10 athletic feats of greatness ever. In fact, wrestling’s kinda unique in the weight that should be given to Domination in its sport, b/c of its mano a mano element. No other team members to jack something up for you. And if you’ve got a longevity streak in this sport? It just means more. Remember this dude that Rulon Gardner upset: Alexander Karelin? He went undefeated in international competition for thirteen freakin years—the last six of which his opponents never scored a single point! Read the link, he’s fascinating.
Oh, and for the record, I prefer Pete’s spelling of da Meng. It’s more Tony Montana and less Terrance Howard.
As it should be.
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
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by jtothep on Apr 22, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeChellis
So it would appear that in sports where Tim Curley doesn’t have friends he is capable of pursuing qualified candidates.
In sports where he has a friend however, he will hire them.
by NittanyBadger on Apr 21, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Knew this was coming
Have a "great HD day!" - Jay Paterno
by ReadingRambler on Apr 21, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will work out well for you all.
and it will be interesting to see if he puts butts in seats to generate some gate. I’m guessing here but am assuming wrestling crowds are decent by wrestling standards, but number in the low 1000s even if Iowa or Minnesota comes to town (the big ones sell out in Iowa City). Shockingly, the big televen is caring more about wrestling.
But to get back to your ancillary point (that I’m sure you all have discussed tens of times), it will have to take $3+ millions or greater for a newer version of Paterno whenever he’s carried out on his shield. I’m pretty sure it won’t be a snake oil salesman, and god knows when it’s going to happen, but the incumbent AD will have to pay up. Football revenue (+ donations) will support it; for the quality of your program there’s just no other credible way around it.
by txhawkeye on Apr 21, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Attendance
Not sure how it’s been recently, but when I was in school (87-91) Rec hall (capacity ~7000) was oftentimes filled with standing room only crowds. As you’re probably aware, HS wrestling is huge in PA and this hire is going to really help Penn State recruit and succeed.
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by NJ lion on Apr 21, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spanier on Salary
Can anyone link sources where Spanier has said things like “No SEC-like salary”, or made any comments on a salary range for the next HC?
I’m not denying it by any means, just interested in what has been said.
by rbz14 on Apr 21, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think their's a quote
at least not to my knowledge but the proof is in the pudding. From what PSU fans have gathered, especially JoePa, PSU coaches come on the cheap compared to their counterparts.
Kath?
by psuphiman80 on Apr 21, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here you go.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_304609.html
"Never. We would never shoot nuclear weapons at Decepticons." -- Gen. Jack Jacobs
by Run Up The Score on Apr 21, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got it
At least just in this article he says we shouldnt have to pay $1M or $2M a year, then backs off a bit:
“My comment to the board has been blown way out of proportion,” Spanier wrote. “It was a casual answer to a question someone asked in an informal Q&A (session), not a definitive statement.”
Also, this was over 4 years ago, when things were pretty bleak and attendance was dipping, FWIW.
Maybe I’m naive/ignorant, but it doesn’t seem impossible that things could be different regarding a new HC search these days.
by rbz14 on Apr 21, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the quote that I've seen many times and as
a result remember best.
“But we can’t go out and be offering $1 million or $2 million salaries to coaches. … I hope that being a coach at Penn State is attractive enough of an opportunity.”
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Apr 21, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm only a casual wrestling fan, but
I am super excited about this. It is always fun to have a legend around on campus.
I believe Spanier went to school at ISU, so there is your connection! Thats definitly what did it.
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by Roland86 on Apr 21, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice scoop on the
Spanier/ISU grad connection. I knew he was chancellor of Nebraska but didn’t know he was a Cyclone.
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by rahpsu92 on Apr 21, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't look to much into this
as far as other sports go. Wrestling is a different beast at PSU than football or hoops for that matter. We should be good—nay great—at wrestling, but the team’s been mediocre since I went there ten years ago. Great job by Curley here, I think the team’s going to move straight up the ranks and we might win a national championship in, I don’t know, two years.
But I don’t think this is indicative of what’s going to happen in football, because we’re comparing apples and oranges. The wrestling program was underachieving and there was no in-house talent that compares at all to Cael Sanderson.
The football team, on the other hand, has been overachieving—you could argue—for the past four or five years, and Bradley’s been groomed for the job, rejected going elsewhere, etc.
I think this is great for wrestling and PSU; I think it means nothing for the football program.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
by spakajewia on Apr 21, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You couldn't have said this better.
It’s the equivalent of replacing a VP versus replacing the CEO & Chairman of the Board.
Both are important decisions, but getting one wrong is going to get you fired, if not tarred & feathered.
by Tailgate Shogun on Apr 21, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*threadjack*
Thanks to JayTweet, I was re-reviewing some Blue/White rappers, and wondering why this one didn’t get selected for the contest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tuTBGMNqCM
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by Run Up The Score on Apr 21, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was in the contest
at least when I finally got around to watching the videos yesterday.
Was my favorite of the bunch (possibly for really working in the kernkraft and we are penn state cheers)
by The JuggerNitt on Apr 21, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
White people
must have been afraid of the chains and uncertain of what rhyming ‘touchdown’ and ‘buck down’ meant.
Man has skills.
by Tailgate Shogun on Apr 21, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where can I vote
I gotta support for some real rap.
Live your life. Have fun. Do what you gotta do.
by kmblue on Apr 21, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think voting is closed, but
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/rapshow/
(I love the “Equal Opportunity Event” note)
here are the other videos
http://www.gopsf.com/video/channel/Rap%20Contest
Looks like voting ended on the 15th (started on the 11th), and this video was just added on the 14th. Don’t know who won, though.
by The JuggerNitt on Apr 22, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Curley contact Sanderson first or did Sanderson make the initial contact???
I’ve read numerous newspaper reports on the Sanderson hiring and in one of them it quoted Sanderson as saying when the job at Penn State opened up that he applied. This would indicate that he was the one who made the first move not Curley.
As for the next football coach, whom ever they decide on, he will not shake up the program like Richrod did at Michigan. The “Penn State Way” will continue. That can be a big limiting factor on who you hire.
by ageing lion on Apr 21, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This hire is amazing
Imagine being a 4 year sports superhero at Penn State and then having Penn State ask you to coach that sport. They would have to pry my cold dead hands off the steering wheel of the program. I’m not sure why Cael left a situation like that at ISU, but to me (or is is just the Kool-Aid talking?) it speaks a ton about the Penn State experience that we all love so much.
"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza
by NJ lion on Apr 21, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i guess in a sport like wrestling...
loyalty goes out the window since it is not a huge moneymaker i guess he wanted to take care of his family…i personally woudn’t leave the school i played for…but thats just me
PSU Softball
by QBsneak12 on Apr 21, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To the ISU fans, this is all kinds of odd, a dagger with a twist. In Iowa City, if you were out and the drunk wrestlers came through they were unpredictable/likely to start a fight/wanting to kill you. And they knew how. As a type, these guys are the most loyal of athletes and, in my opinion, no other sport even comes close. The real story of this move hasn’t been told. PSU had something to offer (and don’t discount the big televen factor – Iowa, Minny, OSU, PSU, jNW) plus fertile recruiting grounds – but his willingness to leave screams that something was wrong at ISU.
by txhawkeye on Apr 21, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something tells me that Penn State is just willing to do more
$120,000 for a good coach? I don’t care what sport it is, that’s a steal. There’s cheap and there’s stupid.
Even if Iowa State is willing to match the money, I think that “gladiator culture” at Penn State just makes us more willing to spend to suceede. Maybe not at the SEC/ACC level for football and basketball, but I think that at the olympic sport level there are few universites in country that offer a better chance to suceede than Penn State.
I still think that a booster wrote a check.
"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008
by jesse. on Apr 21, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ehhhh... I don't know
That isn’t typically how PSU would do things, although I suppose Lorenzo or Lubert or one of the other GIANT wrestling supporters could have promised a new endowment to the program or something. Paid directly to the coach, you lose the ability to write it off on your taxes. Why do that?
Have we considered that ISU’s AD seems to be a mental midget & Iowa City might be a shitty place to live?
by Tailgate Shogun on Apr 21, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ISU
Iowa State is in Ames, IA FWIW. Iowa is in Iowa City.
by Laaaaazzz on Apr 21, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's how shitty it is.
A world traveler like myself doesn’t even know where ISU freaking is!
I kid. I did know that. I am dumb.
by Tailgate Shogun on Apr 21, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't mean that Iowa City isn't still a shitty place to live
I know I have no desires to ever go back there after last fall.
by The JuggerNitt on Apr 22, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it was you who jinxed them....
by Screen Name 20 on Apr 22, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I don't know how many other people have this impressive resume
Minnesota 1999
Michigan 2005
Iowa 2008
I seriously wonder (outside of team personnel) how many other people were at all 3 of those games.
by The JuggerNitt on Apr 22, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might want to consider becoming a hermit and going to live in Nunavut.
Have a "great HD day!" - Jay Paterno
by ReadingRambler on Apr 22, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Word. You don't fight with Wrestlers.
Sanderson has updated his website. No more ISU banners, all PSU. Although I posted this elsewhere, seems here is a good repost place—his blog explanation entry.
Addressing the money:
There has been a lot of speculation as to why I have decided to take the job at PSU. I have taken the job because of the long term opportunity and limitless potential of Penn State Wrestling. When I say opportunity, I am not talking about money. I have answered many questions where people are speculating that I got a million dollar contract (dont know where that came from) or something ridiculous like that. The truth is that the offer I received was less then a 10% increase from what I made last year.
On the mental midget
I am grateful that Jamie Pollard gave me a chance to coach and for the outstanding support he gave me and the program along the way. ISU is lucky to have Jamie Pollard. I sincerely mean that. It was hard to tell Jamie that I was leaving because he has been so supportive of the program. I know that with the right guy ISU will win the NCAA title again very soon. The fact is that ISU has one of the richest traditins in all of college sports. What’s important is that ISU Wrestling rolls on and continues to be a force in college wrestling. It will.
More on PSU potential:
The opportunity to step in and awake a sleeping GIANT is exciting.
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w
by jtothep on Apr 22, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is all that Asics shit gonna fly?
I’ve been wearing nothing but Nikes for 15 years, and I’m not contractually obligated.
"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008
by jesse. on Apr 22, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top 5 national finishes in every year coaching
for Cael. Great hire
by WPIALkid22 on Apr 21, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cael looks like he can easily kill me
by SweepTheLeg on Apr 21, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can
And so can his brother, who’s also coming as assistant coach.
Better and better.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Apr 21, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which brother
I guess that would be his older brother Cole, who was his assistant at ISU?
I see young Cyler’s currently at ISU:
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w
by jtothep on Apr 22, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Channeling my inner fugi...
From what I’ve been told Curley didn’t have a whole lot to do with this hire. But, ultimately he signed off on it so he deserves at least some credit.
by speedomike on Apr 21, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no credit for Curley...
Cael picked up the phone and called us…credit to Cael for realizing PSU is awesome to quite awesome.
PSU Softball
by QBsneak12 on Apr 21, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any word on the rumors
that Cael came to try to recruit Zug to wrestle for him?
by The JuggerNitt on Apr 21, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is vaporizing your enemy a legal move in wrestling?
Have a "great HD day!" - Jay Paterno
by ReadingRambler on Apr 21, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
1 point penalty for ‘potentially dangerous’.
However, he then wins by forfeit, so it’s all good.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Apr 21, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, completely false
Cael does not want the Zug to better his undefeated record….and yes, only the Zug can one up perfection.
by Screen Name 20 on Apr 22, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those guys in the picture have nothing on JoePa

I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Apr 21, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
oh man.
rec’d, of course.
Black Shoe Diaries
I BLAME IOWA.
by Kevin HD on Apr 21, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buggy puts my MS Paint crap to shame
Have a "great HD day!" - Jay Paterno
by ReadingRambler on Apr 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Pimp Hat?
With a leopard skin band?
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Apr 21, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I support your attempts
You’re like the workingman’s photoshopper….
by Screen Name 20 on Apr 22, 2009 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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