I forgot about the pot thing. That’s going to warrant a suspension of a few games.

But he did admit and was honest with his PO. He didn’t get caught in his apartment, partying with Bob Marley like Evans and Koroma. He just flat out was an adult about it and admitted it (as adult as you can be while still smoking pot while on probation, and despite being on a team that strives for maturity, he is after all only as old as I am)

And was moved to that stand-up DE position that Tim Shaw played before Hayes.

not a drinker

They cops are just going to sit outside of his apartment, look in the windows….and then bounce…

JoePa needs to let him move in with him…Bobby Engram style

That’ll definitely be a test of wills.

is that you?

and most of us do, he will choose Option 1. IF he really can’t stay away from weed and booz for a year…then enjoy prison.

Number 1 is what needs to be done. I still can’t even imagine how hard it must be.

I smoked three or four times a week for a year or two after my pops died in my arms. And I was 32. This dude’s, what, 21? I still went to work and put my energy into doing a good job tho, which was actually a nice distraction. Especially the four-week training contract up in Wilkes-Barre, in January. Standing in front of a classroom and teaching pennsylvanian polish and italian housewives how to use internet explorer and webmail was a quite welcome distraction. But back in the hotel room, and all summer at Dewey, it was tears, booze and herb. I’m not sure how I would have coped at all if I had been locked out of partying and had all the pressure to stay straight as Lavorro does now.

But again, I also did not have #1 as an option. My upside wasn’t such a clear path to a millionaire game player.

…if someone offered to pay me even enough to clear out all my debts, but told me not to drink for a year…i’d be all over that. so how multimillion dollar contracts not enough of an incentive for some of these kids not to f up i have no idea. i know things are different in their shoes, but c’mon!!!

If so, it might not count as a point, but it would count towards the Arrest total to get bonus points after the 4th arrest.

just extending his probation. I wouldn’t think there’s any points for that.

You two were younger than me by heaps. Not that the importance of age trumps any personal/circumstantial closeness. But maturity sure does impact coping abilities.

RIP to all BSD deceased parents. It’s nice to think Joe will have quite a welcoming committee if he ever decides to join them.

I haven’t heard anything about him being some dealer or complete alcoholic, just the normal college thing. Again, it is NOT at all acceptable, but I did the same shit only didn’t get caught, so I can not judge a man for doing something I myself have done

These dudes are ‘set for life?’ I’ma eat it up if you post some Forbes links. Or even some guaranteed portions of contract numbers.

I think without the structure of football and a team….Bowman would be a lost soul. Yes he has made mistakes, but what 21 year old doesn’t. He needs to have that father figure/leader in his life and JoePa and the boys are that.

“We Are Penn State. We Are Not Normal. We Are Legends” ~Deon Butler…

Deon said it best…they aren’t normal. They are held to a higher standard.

I’m actually with Laz on this one. His involvement in the fight was troubling but he hasn’t been anywhere near the law since then. Yes, smoking on probation was a foolish move but he’s actually being punished here for admitting to it, and if he lies like I’m sure thousands of college kids on probation do every day this isn’t an issue and therefore not a post on the blog. I can’t even pretend to understand what it takes to go through what he went through in the last year, and while I agree with RUTS it can only go so far, I find myself completely incapable of defining when, exactly, those points have been used up.

I guess what I’m saying is I just don’t feel comfortable throwing stones. I knew kids who were put on probations for different reasons and I will say off the record they ended up getting away things a lot worse than what Bowman is admitting to here. He does have, as they say, a ridiculous upside and needs to know that, but remember the guy lost what were probably his two biggest life mentors and so (in a move that is unusual for me) I think there needs to be a little more pressure on the coaching staff to help him out.

I know this isn’t a popular opinion, and I rarely find myself on this side of the fence, but there is just too much going on here and not enough information for me to have any kind of major reaction.

My 21st was this September the night of the Illinois game, and I didn’t really celebrate the 21 “properly” since I wanted to actually enjoy the game and not be trashed for it. Oh and I was with my parents the whole day, which as a new 21 year old is not the most comfortable drinking environment, even though they’re both alums.

was forbidden to be in bars or to drink while on probation. The important thing, is that it’s not a matter of “they can’t take away a 21 y/o’s right to drink”. It’s that the state has the right to send you to jail, but we won’t under the condition that you do the following.