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by Kevin HD on May 11, 2009 7:28 AM EDT in Football Comment 61 comments

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The potential (and still very much speculative) shuffle in regards to the Big Ten and their Florida bowl tie-ins wasn't much of an issue for me me until this came through the reader, emph mine:

The Champs Sports Bowl, which currently has deals with the Big Ten and ACC, could encounter the same problem. Combined [Champs Sports and Capital One], the two games generate more than $70 million in economic impact for the region annually.

Glaring, non-bracketed disclaimer here: I'm no economist. However, because I consider most of this common sense, I'm moving forward with it.

So to get started: journalism demerit for not citing who came up with the $70 million. Even if $70 million is spent by the people attending these games (which is probably grossly inflated; the only ones who would pay an economist to count that kind of thing have an interest in it being very big), it's a tiny, tiny fraction of that amount that actually stays anywhere near Orlando. The vast majority of it gets put into a register at a chain restaurant, deposited by the manager the following Monday, and then inter-bank transfered up to Bethesda or Oak Brook or Bentonville. All cities far, far away from Florida.

The conferences? Well sure they want nicer venues. Better looking seats (and more of them!) are more likely to be purchased. More money equals higher payout, which is always nice. It's also a chance to mix it up; with two bowls in the same city, the mid-west traveler might tire of going to the same city so often. So, as always:

And I would love to claim the bowl games are the innocent underdogs here but, I mean, look at these logos:

That's three trademark notifications, two footballs, and zero historical references. So I have to ask the citiy and their "local businesses": why do Marriott, American Airlines, Applebee's and Wal-Mart care about the location? As far as I can tell, it's all rolling up into the same set of financial statements no matter who hosts the games.

So football. Now that I'm looking...the SEC tie-ins that follow fall to the Cotton and Outback, with the Outback in a position to simply displace the CapOne. The Cotton might also get a promotion, but I'm not sure what the Big Ten would do with the rest of their roll-call. While I'm sure the Motor City will get its hopes up, I doubt Delany would let this:

become a regular thing. Who knows, maybe the Big East will finally get a decent bowl tie-in.

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Big Ten bowls

Hmmmm, I didn’t realize that the Orlando bowls were an issue (though the Citrus Bowl truly is a dump). Personally, the biggest issue with the situation is having 2 bowls in the same city for the Big Ten — while Orlando is a good tourist destination it gets kinda boring if a team plays there repeatedly and that’s going to hurt attendance (especially when you have a third bowl in not-too-far-away Tampa). I’d love to see the Big Ten drop one of the Orlando games to pick up one elsewhere (drop the Cap One to pick up the Cotton? I’d be down with that).

As an aside, whether or not the Citrus Bowl ever gets renovated might have a lot to do with whether some new professional football team ever locates there. There’s been a number of proposed pro leagues that just haven’t started yet, but at the very least it looks like the United Football League (UFL) is planning to use the Citrus Bowl as a host site. Having a resident team would ehlp to generate some capital and justification for renovation over simply hosting 2 bowl games a year.

by Laaaaazzz on May 11, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cotton Bowl

I’d take that over the Cap One Bowl in a second. That would be nice.

by Bob Sacamano on May 11, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

One point to consider...

There is something in economics known as the multiplier. The general concept is that if I spend money in Orlando, the region will get a higher multiple of value from it. For example lets say I spend some money at a local bar. The owner of the bar then takes their share of the money and pays the bartenders and bar backs. The bar tender takes their share of the money and uses it to pay for groceries at the local market and a local teenager to babysit their kid. The baby sitter then takes their share of the money and spends it at the local movie theater. The movie theater owner then takes their share and pays the kid making the popcorn. Etc, Etc, Etc. When all is said and done, I might have only spent $20 at the bar, but Orlando might have gotten $100 of value from it. Honestly I can’t think of a better example of the multiplier effect than State College, where half the population would be out of work if it wasn’t for those few huge events like football games, arts fest, and graduation that bring in a huge amount of money into the community.

by VVeRPennState on May 11, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't think the multiplier is enough

to cover the kind of renovation costs they want the Central Florida taxpayer to pick up. It’s still only one game a year.

by PSU Mudder on May 12, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Technically the article was referring to both bowl games, but I can’t really agree or disagree with your point without doing a whole lot of research that I really have no interest in doing. That said, I really wouldn’t think that Orlando is as desperate for tourist dollars during late December and early January as say El Paso or Shreveport.

by VVeRPennState on May 12, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

Orlando has bigger fish to fry in the tourism department, like keeping Disney, Universal, and Sea World stocked with guests all the time. A couple of bowls games do not make or break that place.

But then again, I don’t live there so if the denizens want to finance a nice plush satdium for me to visit, who am I to complain?

by PSU Mudder on May 12, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not only is the Citrus Bowl a dump

It’s in one of the scarier neighborhoods in Orlando. I remember taking a bus though a rough residential area before the 2003 CapOne Bowl and seeing a guy mugged in the street. Worse, people in the bus were laughing and egging the mugger on. We took a different bus route that evening.

by Cairo on May 11, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bars on the windows

The tell tale sign you are in a crappy area is if all the local businesses have iron bars on all their windows. Walking to the Captiol One bowl in 2003 every building had them. At least the game is played in the morning when all the criminals are sleeping.

by catesinator on May 11, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know large stadiums host

any number of different kinds of events, but how can something that seats 70,000 people survive without a major leasee? Wrestlemania isn’t going to pay for luxury boxes and the other upgrades.

IMO UCF sealed the Citris Bowls fate when they built their own on campus stadium and moved out of the Citrus Bowl in 2006, but who can blame them.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on May 11, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

We decided to walk to the stadium from our hotel, about a 20 minute walk…and on our way a cop drives by, get on his loud speaker and says “you boys shouldn’t be in this neighborhood, please hurry along”…nice, lets announce our presence, as if 6 guys draped in blue/white didn’t stand out enough…we did hurry along

by pmm156 on May 11, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!

Yeah, it’s like ‘thanks Ossifer, for announcing us as targets.’

This reminds me of the Bring the Noise show we went to at the Cap Center in ‘88. 6 white kids hopped in my mom’s minivan (viva la Aerostar) and headed down to a rap show featuring Ice-T, Big Daddy Kane, Public Enemy and a bunch of dc go-go bands: Chuck Brown, Junkyard Band. There may have only been 20-30 other white faces there at all. We were huge fans of the mainliners and a few of us were rockin those old-school PE tees with the human silouette center-lined in a set of crosshairs.

Our sweet, floor row 13 seats didn’t feel so sweet when Professor Griff (this is just before he was kicked out for his antisemitic remarks) stood up and asked all the black people to stand up and the white people to sit down and then vice versa, so he could address us individually. Those targets on the backs of our tees felt like they were gonna burn through.

Scoob and Scrap sure could dance tho, and I got DJ Evil E’s autograph on a dollar bill that Ice-T had thrown into the air.

Hey, this game is fun too and you can make it fun. --j. odrick
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w

by jtothep on May 11, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is it bad

that by the third sentence I knew this was a post by jtothep?

by The JuggerNitt on May 11, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had you at 6 white kids hopped in my mom's minivan?

Aerostars, btw, were the plum shit in the eighties. V6, stick on the floor. Sleek, futuristic look. Dorky, but cool in that fiscally responsible way; clearly it was my mom’s car, so it didn’t reek of the stupid HS car payments that required 40hr-week after-school jobs that were so famous in my town, leaving more time for the ladies. Which reminds me: the backseats? Both folded down into each other to make any length of bed. Uh-huh. You get the idea. Cue the Barry White.

Hey, this game is fun too and you can make it fun. --j. odrick
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w

by jtothep on May 11, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

normally that sentence alone wouldn't make me think "jtothep"

but immediately following, “Bring the Noise show we went to” was an immediate indication

by The JuggerNitt on May 11, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Barry White

If you listen real close to “Can’t get enough of your love, baby” it sounds like he’s saying that he can’t get enough of urethane.

Uh, anyway.

Have a "great HD day!" - Jay Paterno

by ReadingRambler on May 11, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, you get points for this post ok

So you can stop being jealous of RR. White boys who liked PE = good.

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by kmblue on May 11, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yay!

Now I can officially retire from BSD. I’ve finally got KM cred.

Thanks, sista! RamblerEnvy really wasn’t treating me very well.

Hey, this game is fun too and you can make it fun. --j. odrick
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w

by jtothep on May 12, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now I'm jealous of you!

Look at you, you’re still able to walk around, aren’t you? Ever since Ovechkin took out my knee, it’s been all downhill for me.

Have a "great HD day!" - Jay Paterno

by ReadingRambler on May 12, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

All downhill

That’s good right? Easy goin downhill. Twould be bad if it was ‘all uphill’ for you, like Sysiphus.

Ovie did send word to your bench that he was sorry you are injured. Plus, I read that you skated this morning. And so, again tomorrow night…..it’s on!

Hey, this game is fun too and you can make it fun. --j. odrick
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w

by jtothep on May 12, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, shit

Ovechkin just took out my asgsdfcfasdfgASDGASGasdgjasdgp

PC
asdg

Have a "great HD day!" - Jay Paterno

by ReadingRambler on May 12, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Man up, you little wuss!

It’s Posting! Next thing you know you’ll be complainin to the Editors….

All of Canada is embarrassed for you.

Hey, this game is fun too and you can make it fun. --j. odrick
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w

by jtothep on May 12, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ovechkin took out my ability to post actual comebacks

I hate that guy.

Have a "great HD day!" - Jay Paterno

by ReadingRambler on May 12, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we'll have to thread it up tomorrio

Can’t believe the refs weren’t able to hand it to pretty boy last night.

Hey, this game is fun too and you can make it fun. --j. odrick
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w

by jtothep on May 12, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was unable to actually watch it, so I don’t know what you’re talking about.

Why can’t Ovie take out Bettman’s knees?

Have a "great HD day!" - Jay Paterno

by ReadingRambler on May 12, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also

OVIE IS A GAY?!ASDFG WHY NO 1 GAME SUSPENSION???? FUC* THE CRAPS!!ASDFGASF

STEELERS ROOOL!

Have a "great HD day!" - Jay Paterno

by ReadingRambler on May 12, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lmao... yeah I thought the same thing

bad when you find yourself ‘profiling’ your fellow posters on here.

But on a better note: cheers to you, jtothep and I hope we can party again at the RB again next year and I ain’t driving this time! (friggin no showin’ Jnitt rat bastard… jk!)

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by TheMightyErik on May 12, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol; it's gettin bad, isn't it?

now I’m a victim of my own bsdprofiling? I hope I don’t soon get pulled over for Driving While BSD’ing or something wac like that.

Bet, brother! Will love to throw back some beers with The Mighty Erik again. Jnitt’s still young; we Elders need to nurture the young pups and bring them along slowly; he’s been doing a good job of studying, so hopefully we’ll see him at next year’s RB Tailgate ;)

Hey, this game is fun too and you can make it fun. --j. odrick
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w

by jtothep on May 12, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

GRRR don't even get me started on the tailgate

friggen girlfriend and her “it’s my birthday” complaints, and walking slow, and refusing to get out of bed (hey, I was hung over from New Years Eve, too!)…doesn’t she understand that the Rose Bowl trumps her birthday? I was literally 5 minutes away from just leaving her and scalping her ticket.

by The JuggerNitt on May 13, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I worked the metal detectors

at Rec Hall for the Public Ememy/Ice T/House of Pain show in ‘90. Had a number of dudes with weapons that were sent away. One guys had a knife with I think about a 8" blade. When I told him he couldn’t take it in with him – he dropped in the the trash barrel. Before I could pocket it, he came back and decided it would be better to take it out to the car.

Great show (although it was full of white college kids rather than the diverse culture of D.C.)

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on May 11, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice!

Good prudence, that! Might need that shiv for after the show. How the hell did you get that gig? Sounds like a great way to see a show.

And that PE show was the least diverse I’ve ever seen DC. I’ve never seen fewer white people in a gathering that large. There was a dude in front of us, there by himself, rockin a super-long black leather trench coat and a black leather circular brim hat, who stood the entire time (unless otherwise directed by Griff), with hands in pockets. We speculated the whole ride home about what was under that coat. Shotgun? Entirely possible. Blades? Definitely likely. OE? Yo, pass the forty dude! j/k. No way in freakin hell were we even jokingly addressing that dude. Best part, tho, was he remained expressionless throughout the entire bangin, hoppin show, except for once: Ice-T spotted him from stage (like I said, we had great freakin seats) and addressed him with ‘yo, even brother man in the black hat here; can I get a fist in the air?’ And dude, much to our deep trepidation, pulled his hand out of his pocket and pumped a fist in the air. And did something none of us ever could have expected. He smiled. About lit up the room again with a blingful smile. I wish Slick Rick coulda been there to drop his famous line:

Great scott, are you a thief?
Seems like you’ve got a mouth full of gold teeth!

Hey, this game is fun too and you can make it fun. --j. odrick
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w

by jtothep on May 11, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The UCC,

Universtiy Concert Committee, was the best kept secret when I was at PSU. It was a student run organization that researched acts, made recommendations to the administration on what shows to have on campus. The committee worked with the roadees to set up the show, sell merchandise, work the gates, work security, and usher. Best thing, for a small amt of time you got to get into all the shows for free.

I think when the BJC was built the UCC was eliminated.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on May 12, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There were still ways to get into shows for free, though

usually by handing out flyers. I recall one show I was handing out flyers, and one of the campus squirrels came up, I guess thinking I had food. I knelt down, held out the flyer, and the squirrel came over and took it from me. Dropped it about a second later, but I was still impressed at how bold this squirrel was.

by The JuggerNitt on May 12, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was your first

mistake. Incoming students should be given an 8 hour prep course on the PSU squirrel population. It would save a lot of unfomfortable situations.

If you have food, you are going to have a squirrel sitting on your head or going through your pockets. I think they got the idea for the squirrel scene in Christmas Vacation from observing UP squirrels.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on May 12, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

UCC

I was an officer in the UCC — which meant I played a role in selecting the acts, plus I got free tickets (for my friends) for every say and I got to “work” each show and see them for free myself. It was a fantastic gig.

by Laaaaazzz on May 12, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Citrus Bowl

I have never thought this was a great trip. Unless you are at something directly owned by Disney, central Florida is a shit hole. The only things to do besides Disney Land is go to strip clubs and biker bars. For my two cents I thought San Antonio was a much, better trip. The weather was nicer, it was a much more walkable city, and it was cleaner.

The one neat thing about the Orlando/Tampa New Years trip is there at least four teams down there that weekend. You get to meet a lot of fans, which is kind of cool.

I don’t really know that Dallas is the solution though, even if they wanted a Big Ten tie in, and they probably don’t. I suspect their goal is probably Big XII first choice and SEC first choice (after the BCS of course), and they’ll probably pay big money to get it. That leaves us in Orlando agains either the second place ACC or Big East teams. Kind of a step down in prestige there, and the money will begin to dry up.

Finally, for the fifth palce bowl, don’t knock Toronto. It’s drivable for the entire confrence, and a first class city. It’s a cool trip, way better than Detroit for gods sake. Obviously, the game would have to move before New Years, but other than than that it’s not a bad reward for a 6-6 season.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on May 12, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's the answer

Holiday Bowl, Big Ten second versus Pac Ten second

Along with Outback, Alamo, International, and Champs..

LA, San Diego, Tampa, San Antonio, Toronto and Orlando, would not be a bad holiday haul for the Big Ten.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on May 12, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Holiday?

I wouldn’t mind having our #3 team face a Pac-10 team, but why have both the 1st and 2nd teams face off against the same conference. Much rather see #2 Big Ten face #2 SEC or Big 12 wherever it might occur.

by Laaaaazzz on May 12, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd like it too, except

I think that the SEC is going to drop the Citrus Bowl and go in with the Big 12 on the Cotton Bowl, and thet we will not be getting an invitation to that party. The regional appeal there will be too strong.

With that in mind I’d rather have a game in San Diego against a Pac 10 team, than a second game in Orlando against an ACC or Big East opponent. Keep in mind, we’ll still have the SEC tie in the Outback Bowl, and that game would likely supplant an ACC2/Big East2 Citrus Bowl in prestige anyway.

I’m like five assumptions ahead of you here, for better or worse.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on May 14, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Finally

After the BCS Championship game it’s about the trip, not the opponent. And it’s not even a close consideration, they could play the MAC #3 so long as they did it in Cancun.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on May 14, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and from what I've heard

the strip joints in Toronto are much better than the ones in Orlando

by The JuggerNitt on May 12, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It wouldn't suprise me

they were pretty dumpy.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on May 14, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Question

This may be a terrible situation for Orlando, and I empathize with that. My question is though, as far as the big ten, will this negatively impact us that much? I mean, if we lose the capital one bowl, would we not be able to muscle in on another high-payout bowl(i.e. Cotton or some new bowl in a nice stadium?)

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by Roland86 on May 11, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the big ten will be fine, thank you

It was because they had the Big Ten #2 that the bowl mattered, they weren’t actually bringing anything to the table.

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by Kevin HD on May 11, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly.

It was entirely related to the payout they had to offer. Nothing else about the venue was particularly nice aside from the warm weather and the proximity to Mickey Mouse. There are too many other quality venues (Dallas, Reliant Stadium in Houston, Qualcomm in Charlotte, Nashville, etc.) that with a big payout will be attractive to the Big Ten. Even the Blooming Onion Bowl in Tampa moving up to #2 could be a possibility if they up their payout.

by Cairo on May 11, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You have the order wrong

The Big Ten would bail on the Capital One Bowl because of the stadium (it wasn’t that bad in 2002), or the market conditions wouldn’t allow the bow to keep paying Big Money for the second or third Big Ten team.

Orlando is who should be concerned. The Cotton Bowl is going to start to offer Big Money, to push it’s way back into the BCS mix, and Tampa versus Orlando is six of one half dozen of the other. Not a big deal either way.

This is not a Big Ten problem

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on May 11, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dave Coulier

I couldn’t help but think of Dave Coulier upon seeing the bling bling photograph. Who wants to take a guess at why?

by MainLion on May 11, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

cut it out

by Cairo on May 11, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Close. I was thinking of the lame “cut off my thumb” magic trick. :)

by MainLion on May 11, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I never really understood how he reattached the thumb

I mean cutting off the thumb is the easy part, but surgical reattachment with near instantaneous healing. That, my friends, is impressive.

by The JuggerNitt on May 12, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I count $360 in that photo

While I definitely wouldn’t mind having $360 in cash in my hand right now (though that’s only $180/person), I don’t know if I’d be taking pictures about my big stack unless I was holding that many bills, but instead of being $20’s, they were $100’s

by The JuggerNitt on May 11, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

there's a good chance they may have already diversified their bonds

who needs stright cash when they are most likely rockin a portfolio, yanno?

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by TheMightyErik on May 12, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wu Tang Clan aint nothing to F wit

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by HookMania on May 12, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wu-Tang Financial

I don’t know what was funnier, that skit or the race draft. “konichiwa bishes!!”

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by kmblue on May 12, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

damn I miss that show

Wu Tang Clan skits were so damn funny. Right up there with the Charlie Murphy’s as far as I am concerned

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by TheMightyErik on May 13, 2009 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's the Payout

but it was also that the Citrus Bowl committee was ponying up the most dough of all the traditional Jan 1st bowl game. Don’t expect the Big10 and SEC to sign a deal with the International Bowl just cuz Toronto promises to dish out 6 mill/team (no matter how much i wish it was that simple)

by platnumkid on May 11, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Contracts

Does anyone know how long the Big10 is committed to the current bowls tie-ins?

From the way the article reads it seems like the Cap 1 contract will be over after the ’10 game.

by platnumkid on May 11, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good question

but if it’s anything like any of the other contracts in college football no one has to follow it anyway.

Contract or not, I think the problem with 2010 is that they have to either bail now or stick with it for another year. Once Orlando officially says ‘sorry no $175M for you’, and the other bowls have time to bid for the new spot, we’ll get a move.

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by Kevin HD on May 11, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs