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Rivals has their post-spring power rankings by position and coaches. We're represented pretty well. I'd like to see Wiz on the OL list and I can't agree with Beamer being ranked ahead of JoePa, but overall not too bad.

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That list is BS

Where is Zug!?!!?!?!

How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?

by psupride on May 14, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Zug was a given

That list is a ranking of every normal human football player.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on May 14, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God, or hail Satan or something

that this is finally the end of Tim Tebow in college football

by dawsonPSU10 on May 14, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Also

I call BS on the Emu for being ranked #14 for QBs, as well as the rest of the Domers on the list. Is there something we missed last season from ND? Because I’m pretty sure this is essentially the same team that lost to Syracuse last year, and has somehow managed to BS a schedule worse than ours.

And where’s Jeremy Boone for special teams?

by dawsonPSU10 on May 14, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

Galen Hall 2nd best offensive coordinator in the country.

I guess Galen should get more credit, but am I the only one shocked to see him that high?

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on May 14, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Well

Most likely since we don’t have a real OC, just two guys who split time, they didn’t know that and put down the older guy.

by dawsonPSU10 on May 14, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's what I think happened

He’s kinda like Kizer Soze. His legend is born out of the fact that nobody’s ever seen Galen(at least not on the recruiting trail).

by RNF18 on May 15, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just realized why

It’s one thing to be Ohio State with 5-star kids at every position and be successful. But our all-B10 QB and all-B10 RB are 2-star and 3-star recruits, respectively. Our leading WR from last season was a walk-on. A big reason we’re competing at such a high level is coaching.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on May 15, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's a few things

Our kids have more character, our coaches are very good, and we have a tradition of overachieving which helps us when things get tight and the game is on the line.

A lot of these 5 star types have been so blown up their whole lives that they have never had to handle adversity so when it comes they panic or choke. Our coaches do a great job at finding character kids whether they’re 5stars or 2stars.

by RNF18 on May 15, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

You’re a five star kid, and you’re either all you’re supposed to be, or you’re considered a bust. The “underrated” athletes have the benefit of being able to become something out of nothing. Sean Lee was a three-star recruit, now he’s going to be our starting linebacker (and at PSU, that is saying a great deal) and is considered one of the best linebackers in the country.

by dawsonPSU10 on May 15, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

BINGO!

"...I got mad, saw a picture of you, and I kicked it..." (JoePa during a 2008 presser)

by BlueWhiteLife on May 15, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Tebow sucks

I will not debate this with anyone.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on May 14, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Odrick

has one job to perform this year, as does most of the team. He’ll have 9weeks to outnastily prepare himself for an epic battle with Boren on 11/7. I thought their Oline was plenty dirty/nasty in last year’s game in the shoe, but all you hear from their writers is how disappointed they were with that unit’s underperformance.

Jarod can remain off anybody’s lists all year as far as I’m concerned, as long as he gets the best of boren and brewster that day.

Hey, this game is fun too and you can make it fun. --j. odrick
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w

by jtothep on May 14, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, mate

Epic battle. I’ll believe that when I see it.

All Boren has to do is grab and hold on. No one calls holding in this league.

The pro scouts will love it if Odrick smashes through anyway, as he did a couple of times last year.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on May 14, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1 for No one calls holding in this league

Hey, this game is fun too and you can make it fun. --j. odrick
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w

by jtothep on May 15, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Odrick will be

double-teamed on most plays – especially to that side. When he is not…it will likely be a run/option to the other side. All this does is open it up for the rest in our 4 – 3…

Between Koroma, Lattimore, Latham, Crawford…they are posed to give the O-lines fits…so then, in steps our LB’s…

When the D-line gets a breather; in steps whom?…Stills (who is getting huge), Ware, J Hayes…not quite what O-lines would see as a “breather” for them…

"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."

by BlueWhiteLife on May 15, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

...now there's a post

that makes sense RR…

"...I got mad, saw a picture of you, and I kicked it..." (JoePa during a 2008 presser)

by BlueWhiteLife on May 15, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a second there I thought

RR stood for Rich Rodriguez.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on May 15, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry...but

I don’t mention hIM…on BSD…to me the ONLY RR = our very own “Rambler”…

"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."

by BlueWhiteLife on May 15, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beamer needs to win a title before I rank him above JoePa

As for Saban, good for you, you did well against a weak non-conference schedule and a weak SEC schedule.

P.S. Utah.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on May 14, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm glad I'm not the only one

to realize how absolutely overrated they were all year last year, especially after their deceivingly “good” schedule that included powerhouses like Clemson and Georgia (who, if I remember right went on to do great things with the rest of their seasons, right?). They never should have been #1 for as long as they were #1, and their obliteration at the end of the season goes proves that.

by dawsonPSU10 on May 15, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ohio St..

As much as I try to avoid discussing them… if you look at those rankings, Ohio St. doesn’t appear too too much on the lists. I get that these rankings are crap anyway but MSM controls the flow of erroneous information to the uninformed masses (I’m looking at you AP voters that only watch 1 or 2 games per weekend). So whether we like it or not, lists like this can have an impact on perception.

by Domin8ing the Big Ten(11) on May 14, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I much prefer

an overhyped Buckeye squad, to an overlooked, msm-disrespected group of tresselballers. We would be well-served to continue to be wary of those lads.

Hey, this game is fun too and you can make it fun. --j. odrick
But I’m biased towards tailgating, as you may imagine. -ts
Ignore the accolades – just enjoy the games. -bb&w

by jtothep on May 14, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let the Clark Heisman discussion begin?

So, since the Heisman has become a QB contest and DC-17 is ranked number 6 does that mean he has a shot?

by markpsu on May 14, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm hoping

our next Heisman contender will be Royster quite frankly, not that Clark doesn’t deserve it or anything, but mainly for the awesome coincidence that our two Heisman winners both wore #22, and that Royster kicks ass.

by dawsonPSU10 on May 15, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Larry Johnson was our last Heisman winner and he wore #5.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on May 15, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I was under the impression we only had one Heisman trophy sitting in our sports museum. Odd…

by dawsonPSU10 on May 15, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

LARRY JOHNSON WAS OUR LAST HEISMAN WINNER

I really wouldn’t care at all if the award had gone to someone other than a pretty boy quarterback from U$C.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on May 15, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look it up if you dare

But LJ was third, next to the pretty boy from U$C, and someone from a school you wouldn’t believe. Look up #2 at your own risk.

by dawsonPSU10 on May 15, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know who it was

Even though the refs stole that game (I didn’t say it, Joe did) from us, I would have been okay if he would have won it instead of some freaking U$C player.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on May 15, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

I was still a young PSU fan at the time (and not the best time to be a PSU fan), so I barely remember any of those games in the early 2000s, let alone the heisman race, other than I knew LJ was up there in votes and didn’t win it.

by dawsonPSU10 on May 16, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

#2 in 2002

is further proof non-qbs should just give that dream up.

I think DC17 will get knocked out b/c of the non-conf. While all these other contenders are playing in prime-time matchups, we’ll be lining up cup cakes. Then when you look at his stats they will be discredited because of said cup cakes and the now tried and true practice of discrediting the entire BT conference during these types of discussions.

In addition, I don’t really give a shit.

by KevinHD on May 17, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hell why not both of them

So long as it’s not [Enter generic 6000 passing yardarge, 90 pts/game Big12 QB, or worst of all Tebow, here] I’ll be pleased

by dawsonPSU10 on May 15, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tebow will win. You can pretty much lock it in. Gah.

I just hope a pro team is stupid enough to draft him high.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on May 15, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone interested

in an Oedipus Rex Ending party (minus the incest part of the story) if he does get a second Heisman?

by dawsonPSU10 on May 15, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can we announce the Raiders first round pick of Tebow for 2010 yet?

How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?

by psupride on May 15, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

how fast can Tebow run?

Speed’s all that matters for the Raiders

by b598650 on May 15, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we stay the hell away from that dog and pony show. when was the last time a heisman winner won their bowl game? I"ll take the big win, someone else can have the stupid trophy. Just my opinion…

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on May 15, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what...

I agree with that point.

I’ll take the hype to have BOTH Clark & Royster getting on people’s/voters “lists”…as of right now, IMO – it would be a real brain teaser if they were not.

As stated many times “over the years now, here on BSD”…the last time we had multiple players on peoples Heisman lists…’94/95 season, where basically Collins / Carter combo “stole” votes from eachother anyway.

IMO – let DC-17 just play like DC-17…same for ‘Rolls. PSU historically does not get the Heisman love anyway…so don’t get your hopes up now – or for that matter – as the season progress and they perform up to their capabilities. Just perform as a team… I bet that neither one of them would want that trophy – over an undefeated season and a bowl win.

"...I got mad, saw a picture of you, and I kicked it..." (JoePa during a 2008 presser)

by BlueWhiteLife on May 15, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Testaverde won the Heisman Trophy

And we all know how that bowl game turned out!!

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on May 15, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Georgia

Didn’t the Georgia team we played and beat in 82 also have a heisman winner? I might be mixing it up with another year.

by dawsonPSU10 on May 15, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was the '83 Sugar Bowl,

and we also did it the year before, smearing USC’s Carcus Allen under Warner’s cleats.

http://www.fiestabowl.org/index.php/tostitos/history_display/11th_annual_fiesta_bowl/

Heisman winners do not fare well against PSU in bowl games.

'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'

by Pete the Streak on May 17, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I want Sean Lee to win the 2009 Heisman.

Who else would be better as the first pure defensive player to win it? Let Tebow & the other QB’s split the first place votes. Lee gets all the second place votes & wins the award. How cool would that be?

Born and raised in the shadow of Mount Nittany

by Elihu on May 15, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly cool...

“IF” Tebow / FL offensive play calling is like last year, AND McCoy/Bradford perform = to last year…that definately will make the historical “QB” voter-lover queer’s fit to be tied…and thus lessen the individual tally’s…and provide “another position” to rise.

"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."

by BlueWhiteLife on May 15, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Powa Rankings"

…should have had a caveat for the RB’s here…looks like this was thrown together simply based on stats…no forward thinking. In steps Royster…

#13; your kidding me; right?!

Again, because of the “HD” variety; “I” do not see him getting significantly more touches…I just don’t. The 1st (3) games or so he will be pulled – like last year…and Clark will too, in an effort to get KN some live-time to shore-up the #2 spot…as well as saving bodies.

Hereagain; in steps Green and Beachum…not what a defense will view as a rest. Newsome will grow some quick confidence here too; having the time to play with “stars” around him…he WILL get into the groove.

"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."

by BlueWhiteLife on May 15, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope you are right about

KN getting some Q4 action. If he’s lucky, maybe he’ll be brought in for some game ending knee taking. My memory just isn’t cueing up too many instances where I’ve witnessed a whole lot of intelligent QB subbing.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on May 15, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well QB14

and his fragile psyche isn’t around anymore so Paterno may be more inclined to give him most of the second half against EIU, Cuse, and Akron.

Kath?

by psuphiman80 on May 16, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did we do that with Devlin?

I can’t remember. Also, don’t forget Temple, so we can get him some stellar road action as well. Also, also, you forgot Little Red, he’s gotta see some time too.

by dawsonPSU10 on May 16, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

IF KN is the...

out-right #2 in practice, he will get the #2 snaps in the first 4 games…Lil Red could see 1 or 2 late 4th qtr series…

"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."

by BlueWhiteLife on May 17, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm joking

about Little Red. I’m happy we have what looked at the BW game as a very capable backup QB, but I think the only time he’ll see the field is those late 4th qt. moments, like you said. Not to mention us probably having PJ next year to back up KNew.

by dawsonPSU10 on May 17, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Special Teams

I do not see a drop-off for PSU here…in fact, IMO perhaps…we should shine.

We have speed (Chaz? Wallace? Smith? Beachum? – perhaps a healthy Carter too) DWheels just made me too nervous with the ball handling sometimes.

We can tackle (Mauti, Stupar, Colasanti) should ALL remain as starters here…rest Bowman.

We should still kick and punt efficiently too.

"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."

by BlueWhiteLife on May 15, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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