Can someone 'splain this to me?
by Pete the Streak on Jun 12, 2009 8:26 AM EDT
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As a result of Bama's latest foray into the land of NCAA violations, part of the penalty (besides the fine and a pretty much useless type of probation) is the 'vacating' of any wins in which the transgressors participated.
What, exactly, does that mean? If Bama loses the wins, but the opponent in those games is not credited with a win, where did it go? Is the opponent stuck with the loss? Did the game go down the memory hole? Does Bama's, say, 7-5 season become an 0-5 season?
Can someone explain? Use small words, please.
'Preciate it.
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Vacated and Forefeit are two different things
Basically vacated means that the result stands but Alabama can’t claim it as a win anymore, but whomever they played doesn’t win instead. They’re stuck with the loss. I don’t know how the season would be reported, but I imagine there will be an asterisk about vacated wins in media guides are things. Memory hole is a good way to describe where the wins go.
"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."
by psuphiman80 on Jun 12, 2009 8:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not happy with this new trend
Vacating wins is a joke. The school has already played the games, already gone to the bowl game and got their paycheck. Now we’re going to take those wins away. Yeah, ok, big deal. Unless you’re Bobby Bowden going for the record, who cares?
The NCAA has to show bigger teeth than that. But it’s obvious they don’t want to hurt the pocket books of these big programs that depend on football to support their other 25 athletic teams. So no more television and post season suspensions I suppose.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Jun 12, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NCAA: “We are very angry with you, and we are going to write you a letter telling you how angry we are.”
by Screen Name 20 on Jun 12, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Go to your room, FSU!!!
DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?
"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep
by ReadingRambler on Jun 12, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also, we are going to vacate the chocolate ice cream you ate last week!
Just forget that you ever ate that, young man!
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 12, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They need
to make the scholarship reductions so crazy that no one can afford to cheat if they want their program to be good.
JoePa in '09
by JGuiher on Jun 12, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vacating wins is like the British police...
“Stop! Or we’ll say ‘stop’ again!”
by ednax1 on Jun 12, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or like the UN
Listen, North Korea. We’re very upset with you and your nuclear weapons. In fact, we’re writing a resolution saying just how upset we are. And if you don’t stop, we will hold another emergency meeting and write another resolution.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Jun 12, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My personal favorite...
When they passed like seventeen “line in the sand” resolutions against Saddam and Iraq. You can’t top that kind of impotence.
DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?
"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep
by ReadingRambler on Jun 12, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps we should slip some little blue pills into their tea?
I hear that fixes that problem.
Put a tarp on that circus! - showtime @ BSD
by bconway6 on Jun 12, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell, being it's the $EC I am surpirsed they didn't get this punishment
Or maybe they’re saving that up for the big conclusion of U$C’s ‘investigation’
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
by TheMightyErik on Jun 12, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In related news
If this holds up it means that Bama will no longer be 1 game behind PSU on the all-time wins list. It also means they’ll have to do some work before they reach the 800 wins club. Prior to 2009 Bama had 799 wins. I guess it’s like Chutes and Ladders when you think you’re ahead and boom, you go from space 84 to 28!
This will put them behind OU on the all time wins list and means that their buddies at Tenn will be nipping at their heals. Never a dull moment in the SEC!
by RNF18 on Jun 12, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
You’d go from space 28 to 84 using the ladder. Space 87 takes you to space 24 using the chute.
I never thought I’d see a Chutes and Ladders reference in a football site.
by dmoney350z on Jun 12, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
Landing on 28 was always the jackpot.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Jun 12, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right!
I guess I need to brush up on my chutes and ladders.
Note to self, ladders go up and chutes go down. Okay, I got it. I think I’m now qualified to enroll at Pitt!
by RNF18 on Jun 12, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Childhood gaming FAIL, take the chute back to 1st grade
I was going to write, “you don’t go up a chute”, but figured that was going to draw the obligatory “That’s what she said” card.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 12, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should know BSD better by now
than to be surprised by anything.
Put a tarp on that circus! - showtime @ BSD
by bconway6 on Jun 12, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my lil one is more of a Candyland fan
so it’s kinda like being near the castle and drawing that damn Candycane dude
…of course I have never beaten her at that or any other game because that’s what daddys are supposed to do :)
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
by TheMightyErik on Jun 12, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chutes and Ladders and Candy Land
This is almost bringing a tear to my eye thinking about childhood. I’d be willing to bet there’s still a set of each in my house somewhere (and I’m too lazy to look).
by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 12, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it wrong that I made up a drinking version of Candyland?
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 12, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by wrong you mean Fist Pump Awesome!
I mean seriously who could find fault in turning a kids game into a drinking game?
Though, I think Chutes n’ Ladders would make a better drinking game.
Drink for every row you slide down on a chute and drink for every ladder you climb
But I think that’s just because I don’t remember how to play Candyland…too damn many colors.
Put a tarp on that circus! - showtime @ BSD
by bconway6 on Jun 12, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
candyland is kinda dumb
in that you draw cards with colored squares on them, and you move either to the next square of that color, or if it is a double, you move 2 of those colors. In my opinion, too many cards that can potentially be lost/ruined, when a set of die would work just as well.
I forget my exact rules (I have them somewhere), but there were varients based on how many people played. Essentially everyone got assigned a “color”, and you just had to drink any time someone drew that color, and then if your piece used any of the shortcuts, those were waterfalls, and I think if you warped forward/backwards due to pulling out the character cards you either got to give/take that many drinks (per space). There were some other rules, but that’s the quick explanation.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 13, 2009 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tried your rules tonight with my baby girl
and she was passed out after the 3rd beer. I must fault your logic in this new approach to the game and my sweetie will most likely have a terrific hangover in preschool tomorrow.
Curse you, JNitt!
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
by TheMightyErik on Jun 14, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where do you sell them?
I’ll take one.
by Screen Name 20 on Jun 15, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In England...
Chutes and Ladders is called “Snakes and Ladders.”
Thus endeth the lesson.
by ednax1 on Jun 12, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, THIS comment thread
certainly forked a twist in the road.
Still not sure I got my question answered, but the entertainment value was top shelf.
Thanks. I think.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jun 12, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's what we do
It’s a new severe mental called BSD ADD. Plus, who doesn’t love chutes and ladders and candy land.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 12, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm, I thought it did get answered
basically the only thing that happens with a vacated win is that the team/coach/players vacating the win can’t recognize it as a win. I’d guess they just put it as an asterik in the media guides, etc. The other team doesn’t get a win, and it is basically a useless penalty against anyone but PSU, FSU, or other “top 10 historic programs”
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 13, 2009 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't have it any other way.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jun 13, 2009 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We really are all sorts of special, aren’t we?
Penn Staters belong at Penn State. The problem with a lot of kids is they just don’t know they are Penn Staters yet. -jesse. @ BSD
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Jun 15, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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