ESPN's CFB Live coming to PA

by dmoney350z on Jun 15, 2009 12:10 PM EDT

ESPN's College Football Live is coming to PA June 23-26. You can go here to cast your vote on such things as "Which team is the best in state history?", "Who is the best player to play college football at Penn State?", and "Which coach is the best in state history?"

There are a few easy choices. No, sorry, Graham Zug is not listed as one of the best players to play college football at Penn State.

Poll

Which Penn State team is the best ever?

1968 (11-0)

0 votes

1969 (11-0)

11 votes

1973 (12-0)

4 votes

1978 (11-1)

2 votes

1982 (11-1)

14 votes

1986 (12-0)

47 votes

1994 (12-0)

172 votes

2005 (12-1)

6 votes

2008 (11-2)

2 votes

258 votes | Poll has closed

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Hahaha, ’81 Pitt as one of the best teams in state history! hahaha

hahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ulj5NSiaD8

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 15, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions

It's a joke that that team was even included

I know they wanted there to be more Pitt teams for the poll than that 76 team, but 81 Pitt is really a reach. There’s no way to justify that without putting the 81 PSU team that crushed them and there’s probably a good 5 PSU seasons I can think of (off the top of my head) that belong there more than that one. Hell, it didn’t even make dmoney’s poll. Maybe they should have used one of those pre World War II MNC seasons Pitt fans are still bragging about.

by Brett Brown on Jun 15, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions

RR

Did you vote for Lenny? He’s getting no respect at 10% right now. Come on folks, there’s 2 NFL HOFs on that list and one of them is in 4th place. Vote for Lenny Moore!!

by RNF18 on Jun 15, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions

Of course I did

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 15, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Why is the 94 season not on ESPN's poll?

by Brett Brown on Jun 15, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions

Nope

I won’t get upset about internet polls though.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 15, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions

That makes no sense

When ESPN was doing their best CFB team ever countdown (in 2005) b/c of USC, I’m pretty sure they had PSU ’94 in their final 10.

by Screen Name 20 on Jun 15, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I remember that

I think they said 2005 USC would have killed everyone. Idiots.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 15, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I remember

Herbstreit actually thought this would be the best match-up because of these two offenses, and he said that game would be a toss-up. Then Texas went and beat this “best eva” USC team.

by STU Boy on Jun 15, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions

I mean that WAS a really good game, though

but yeah, lol at the “best ever”

Remember when Miami was the Best Ever before them?

And then basically all the other “best ever” teams?

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 15, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions

They've pretty much already declared this years Florida the best ever

by Brett Brown on Jun 15, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions

That was a good game

Maybe instead, they should have went with the “USC vs. Texas: Best Ever Rose Bowl” spin?

by Screen Name 20 on Jun 15, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Wait, which date?

Or is it really going to be all 3 days?

I was out in the trenches, which enables me to paint such a powerful picture, like Apocalypse Now.-Cormega

by OMEGAMAN on Jun 15, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions

Nice to see Bruce Clark get a shout out.

Well deserved.

by Tailgate Shogun on Jun 15, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions

Just curious

and given as how I wasn’t born yet for the ‘86 season, I don’t really remember it, other than having seen highlights now of the championship game. Also, my knowledge of specifics of this period of PSU football history aren’t great since again, I wasn’t living.

The poll has a huge majority voting for the ‘86 team as the best PA team in history. While it may be one of the greatest wins in our history as a school and program, I was always under the impression that we couldn’t do jack squat in the championship offensively. No offense to the ‘86 team who overcame the “impossible odds” to win against an “unbeatable” Miami team led by their completely “deserving” Heisman winning QB. But I thought it was mainly the D, with Testaverde’s help, who won that game for us.

My vote on that poll went to the ’82 team. So my question: who do you think was better? Obviously 94 should have been up there, and probably would have destroyed the others, especially in place of the ’81 Panthers (BAHAHAHAHAHA). But do you think that the ’87 team was actually “The Best Team In State History” as the poll (and the voters) think, or is it just that they played and won one of the most exciting upsets in CFB history?

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 16, 2009 3:05 AM EDT reply actions

That was the reason for my poll. ESPN left some great PSU teams off their poll, including the great 1994 team. Personally, I think they should have just had two separate polls, “Which PSU team is the best ever?” and “Which non-PSU team is the best ever?” Pitt’s “best team ever” probably isn’t better than our fifth-best team. (Which reminds me, I should have included the 1981 team and possibly the 1999 team in the poll.)

To answer your question, in this poll, the ’94 team is far and away the best team in PSU history.

As for your comment about the ‘86 team, you’re right, offensively we couldn’t do much, but we did score the 14, and it was mainly the defense who won the game. That was one time where bend-but-don’t-break actually worked. I’m not sure but you might still be able to buy the DVD of the game — the entire game — through the official PSU website.

by dmoney350z on Jun 16, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions

I just bought the DVD last week through the SBS

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 16, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh, sorry

I didn’t realize your poll was in response to theirs, I thought you were just seeing what BSD readers thought.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 16, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Both, actually.

by dmoney350z on Jun 16, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions

'86-'87

We had 1 loss and had gone to two national championships, coming away with a win in the 2nd and losing the first.

The reason I voted for the 1986 team is that they were mostly the same team from 1985, and if your team is good enough to go 23-1 and win a NC you are really friggin good. Maybe it’s cheating to include what happened in the previous season in my voting…

I know the 1994 team had maybe one of the top 3 offenses in NCAAF history, but I just feel like the ‘86-’87 teams with Conlan, Dozier, and the like was the perfect PSU football team.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Jun 16, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions

The offense isn't the only part of the team

and the offense wasn’t that bad the rest of the season. The defense was phenomenal throughout, especially in the championship game. Yes, our offense got stiffled by their defense, but despite how “great” that Miami team was, we were better.

So yeah, don’t forget, there are 2 sides of the ball on a team, and as the cliche goes, offense wins games, defense wins championships.

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 16, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I am with you guys on the 86-87 teams

I know it sounds crappy, but the fact they did win that outright MNC that year and the way they won it with class that only a PSU team can do it is why I picked em. That game will forever go down as one of the better memories of my life watching that game with my dad and getting to take the tape out of the vcr after the game and label it ‘Penn State 86-87 National Champions’.

Years later I watched every game of the 94 team and that horrible Indiana game where we gave up garbage points and it cost us at least a share of the MNC. Great team but the magic was sapped out of them by the f**king pollsters

I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member

by TheMightyErik on Jun 16, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions

wow you are young

that was an awesome night and there was so much more to it than the score. Sounds like you have not completed your required reading. “The Night College Football Went to Hell”. Link, someone?

"If you let the men in you've got to let the women in. I don't want a bunch of women walking around in my locker room when guys take showers". Joe Paterno

by letsgopsu on Jun 16, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Possibly the best piece of sportswriting I've ever read (though obviously a bit biased)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=fiesta87

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 16, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks, although, like I said below, I have read it and love it

But really, if there are any BSD readers who haven’t read “The Night CFB Went To Hell”, please do, it’s almost a required reading as a PSU fan, especially a young one who doesn’t understand what happened at and because of that game.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 16, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I have read that actually, and I love it

Don’t get me wrong, in terms of a good vs. evil fight, we no doubt shocked the hell out of ThugU that year, both with our PSU class, tradition, and values. In ESPNs poll I had a hard time picking between the two, but I was trying to think of what I knew about both of our teams from those two championship years if they were to somehow through some warp in the space-time continuum face each other since the poll asked, “Which is the Best PA Team Ever”, not which game was the best, or meant the most, etc. etc.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 16, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions

*class, tradition, and values and on the field

I meant to say

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 16, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions

I may have made myself sound a little younger than I am

I was born in Sept. of 87. When I said I was too young to remember what I meant was that I don’t remember the individual season’s games leading up to the championship games, and can really only get a sense of the teams from watching clips of the championship games. I wasn’t able to watch them play their entire seasons before the 82/87 championships, so I don’t know how well they looked and performed during the season (despite knowing records, etc.)

Trust me, I’ve probably read that required reading piece five times now.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 16, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions

plus, you know, you weren't born yet, either ;-)

I on the other hand was alive for both games, but didn’t grow up in a PSU family, and even if I had, I would probably only have vague memories of 86 and the 87 Fiesta Bowl

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 17, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Penn State Family

I cannot remember a time in my life when I did not know the name Joe Paterno. My dad, uncles, cousins, now my cousins kids. Everyone is a super fan

"If you let the men in you've got to let the women in. I don't want a bunch of women walking around in my locker room when guys take showers". Joe Paterno

by letsgopsu on Jun 17, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions

you don't have to grow up in a Penn State family

to know the name Joe Paterno. Though I probably didn’t really recognize that name until I was 10 or so

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 18, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

just meant that it was spoken so often, that as a tiny little girl I knew it and that he was important. My Dad also taught me the name of every NFL team in the country, and would have me receite them for company. He had no sons.

"If you let the men in you've got to let the women in. I don't want a bunch of women walking around in my locker room when guys take showers". Joe Paterno

by letsgopsu on Jun 18, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs