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Penn State won't play Indiana in 2011 as the Hoosiers rotate off the schedule. So they replaced them with the next best thing: Div. I-AA opponent Indiana State.

Why don't we just stay in Pennsylvania and play Indiana University of PA instead? They would probably put up a bigger fight.

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Jul 2009 by KevinHD - 122 comments

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This is UNACCEPTABLE!!!! It’s awful. When we they ever learn? Why do we have to play all these cupcakes!!!!

They should be scheduling USC, or Texas, Or Virginia Tech, LSU or Florida or all five, at home, this year!!!!
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FIRE CURLEY!!!

Cool, now everybody can return to the offseason

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jun 18, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Not bad

BECAUSE WE’RE PLAYING A CRAP TEAM, WE’LL GET KILLED BY BAMA!!!! WE WONT BE REDDY FOR THE SEC!!!

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Temporarily (and surprisingly!) reserving my outrage

http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/futue-schedules.html

2011
Sept. 3 TBA
Sept. 10 ALABAMA
Sept. 17 at Temple
Sept. 24 TBA

So, Indy State will be on September 3. Fine. That leaves the 24th as the last game, and since we’re playing at Temple, you know it’s going to be another home game. If they can find a decent opponent for that game, it’ll be a completely justifiable non-conference schedule.

If it’s another FCS school, I’ll be the guy handing out the pitchforks and torches.

--
Order your copy of "We Are Penn State", like, now. One team, 128 pages.

by Run Up The Score on Jun 18, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

True, its not doom and gloom...yet.

But the team has 1 win in 4 years. They aren’t even a good FCS team.

I was out in the trenches, which enables me to paint such a powerful picture, like Apocalypse Now.-Cormega

by OMEGAMAN on Jun 18, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

So? Does being a good 1-AA school make a difference?

by Laaaaazzz on Jun 18, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just ask Michigan

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jun 18, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

why?

wouldn’t it be better to ask a team that actually won?

Though I suppose they could tell us the effects of losing to one ;-)

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 18, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playing a 1-AA is a lose-lose

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jun 18, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was in Boone, NC (home of App State U) in April for a family vacation

Great campus, great town, mountains, cows, BBQ, beer, too country and the whole bit. Very similar (yet smaller than) Penn State and State College. Anyhow, in almost every store window downtown there were pictures of the big win over Michigan, newspaper clippings, etc. Some windows said simply “34-32”. They were really making the most of it. And I loved it!! But the one thing I kept thinking: I hope this never happens to us.

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jun 18, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I hope the loss to Toledo is the only "embarassing" type of loss we ever share with Michigan

though in our defense we lost to a 10 win Toledo, not a 3 win Toledo.

Something I don’t expect to see in another “Penn State Preview” on mgoblog:

The varying levels of toughness and ineptness produce either Big Ten championships and BCS bowl victories or, like, losses to Toledo.

http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2007/07/penn-state-preview-stupefying.html

I know there was another, even “better” quote Brian used once, but I couldn’t find it.

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 19, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean this?
Note to self: refer to coming Appalachian State win as "pulsating."

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jun 19, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, that one is good, too

but I thought he had another reference to PSU losing to Toledo, but I didn’t find it. Perhaps I did post the only one, but thought it was different. Dunno. Either way, funny.

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 19, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still one of my favorite Beaver Stadium memories

I think that was the FIU game. That was the most exciting part of the day, hearing the announcer update us on #5 ranked Michigan every time there was a new development. If that wasn’t good enough, as I was leaving with my family, we were blocked by a huge crowd of cheering students and alumni that had stopped to watch the game on the TVs by the concession stands. It was the loudest cheering I heard at any point that day. And then they lost and everybody went nuts. We were blocked so far back, we couldn’t even see the TV, but we were yelling just like everyone else.

Great day.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Part of me was happy, but in the back of my head, I kept thinking, “Holy shit, the media will never stop talking about a Big Ten team doing this.”

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

A wiser man would have realized that before cheering like a madman

But I got caught up in the moment, plus it was Michigan. #5 ranked Michigan. And at the time they had a 9, soon to be 10 year win streak on us (extremely questionable as some of those games may have been and still are), so the hatred overpowered conference appearance that day.

Also, it wasn’t like they blew it in the national title game that year, they were as mediocre as we were.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said “back of my head”.

Don’t worry, I was also cheering like a crazy person. I just had a few doubts that I suppressed.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo
the hatred overpowered conference appearance that day.

I’m a pretty big conference guy. I dont really think twice about rooting o$u on when its for selfish gains as the mythical (but treated all too real) transitive property of college football dictates. However That never once crossed my mind while listening to those updates.

Put a tarp on that circus! - showtime @ BSD

by bconway6 on Jun 19, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am too, but it was an extremely shitty game, but I'm over it now

Both teams sucked offensively (especially b/c Henne was hurt, and I think Mike Hart was too), and to top that off that was before the Austin Scott fiasco, so he was still bringing the suck to the field, and not to mention the incredible skill and leadership from he-who-shall-not-be-named. We shouldn’t have lost that game, but even then I knew we weren’t the top 10 team we were at the time.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 19, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big Ten reputation

Yeah, it’s too bad Michigan didn’t go on that season to beat some high profile SEC school or something in a bowl game.

by confirmy on Jun 19, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it can't be another D1AA school

because then it doesn’t count towards bowl eligibility. I’ll agree that I’m not totally outraged given 2011 is going to rock schedule-wise, but having said that, I HATE that PSU plays D1AA teams. It has no place in competition, and really seems unnecessary to me.

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well it can’t be another D1AA school

Don’t worry, we’ll find the next closest thing…

Curley’s short-list and thoughts…
Tulane: Hmm, we’ll get credit for playing southern teams.
Western Kentucky: Good way to boost SoS. I’ll schedule them even if that weird mascot haunts my dreams.
Miami (OH): A rematch of that great game in 1999 and a chance for payback from 2000.
Indiana: We’ll get credit for playing a BCS conference foe. What? Michigan tried it with Minnesota.

by Screen Name 20 on Jun 18, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get what you're saying but...

The difference between a D1AA school and a D1A school is pretty large. The amount of money spent is quite different from level to level. I don’t really care who the pasties are as long as they’re not D1AA.

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know

but they don’t have to be cupcakes…

by Screen Name 20 on Jun 18, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're never going to get a perfect schedule

so at this point I just wish I could compromise and keep all D1AA teams off the schedule.

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yay!

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cupcakes

I don’t care about 1-AA versus 1-A, I’m more concerned about the good teams on the schedule, not the bad ones.

I’d rather see two decent opponents and then 2 1-AA schools than one decent opponent and three cupcake 1-A schools. If we hyposthetically can fill the 9/24/2011 date with a decent mid-major or a BCS conference school, I’d prefer that to scheduling Ball st over Indiana St.

by Laaaaazzz on Jun 18, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget

Tulane has gone undefeated more recently than we have and is a NFL quarterback factory!

I was a sophomore at PSU that year and my brother was a senior at Tulane. To this day, he still claims that Tulane squad was better than Penn State.

by The Mess on Jun 18, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that rule

exists anymore. I was under the impression the elimination of that rule coincided with the 12-game schedule and wholesale scheduling of 1AA teams (or whatever they are called now).

by cpm126 on Jun 18, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

The rule

formerly was that any game against I-AA teams didn’t count. Now, up to 1 game counts.

by Screen Name 20 on Jun 18, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

The rule

The rule actually was that you could count one 1-AA win every 4 years, now you can count one win every year.

by Laaaaazzz on Jun 18, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

They will probably change that to two 1-AA

by 2011. Better yet, one Div 2 team would be a real treat, which will probably happen in the next 20 years when the 1-AA teams begin to demand too much money for a good drubbing.

by cpm126 on Jun 18, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure it'll just be a MAC team

There won’t be another big name with Alabama on the schedule.

by Brett Brown on Jun 18, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

The last open date

I would like to see them fill that with a low level SEC or ACC team like Vanderbilt or Duke. Indiana State could go undefeated after we pound them and it won’t mean anything because at the end of the day they’re still just a Div. I-AA team. But if Duke or Vandy go on to have a bad season but pull just one upset against an LSU or Florida State we’ll get more mileage out of that win as a common opponent we can point to.

by BSD on Jun 18, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m betting on Toledo or some dreg like that.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

Man I wish Golden could get Temple turned around. If they could win the MAC once or twice that game would look somewhat respectable.

by BSD on Jun 18, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Golden

Dude won 5 games at Temple last season. He at least has the train on the tracks.

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

And if I remember right

One of those was definitely a Temple win in OT, but the refs stole it from them

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like he as them pretty close to respectable

The played the top teams in the make pretty close last year. Buffalo needed a last second hail Mary to beat them. UConn (a team that was still in the Big East race deep in the season) needed to go into overtime to beat them.

by Brett Brown on Jun 18, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

They're very close

It may not happen this year because they have a new QB but they’ve been benefiting from not sharing recruiting grounds with most of the MAC. They should improve over the next few years provided Golden stays.

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

This might be a stupid thing to think

but maybe Paterno is trying to help Golden by keeping Temple consistently on the schedule to do just that. You give athletes a huge game against a traditional powerhouse team like we usually are, and they give it their all, and even if they get blown out, they learn, especially when facing a team with talented players on both sides of the ball like we get. They haven’t gotten any worse since we started playing them consistently, in fact, I’d say they’ve probably gotten better.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

We play Temple

Because they are willing to play three games in Happy Valley to every one game in Philly. And the Philly location is ideal for the many PSU alumni that live in south Jersey and Delaware.

I assure you Penn State has no interest in improving Temple’s program. If Temple gets good they’ll try to cut the 3-for-1 down to a 2-for-1. And then eventually a 1-for-1, and that will be the end of the Temple series.

by BSD on Jun 18, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I mean we didn’t get much mileage out of OrSu’s upset of USC outside of this area -

How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?

by psupride on Jun 18, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have an idea!

Let’s play Pitt!

Tee hee hee.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw a pitt fan at, of all places, the dumpster

in my complex in Tampa, and of course his hypothesis about no PSU vs Pitt was that Joe Pa was scared to lose to Pitt.

I was excited that I may have met a Steelers friend to watch games with until he went into that nonsense. Then it was “ok, see ya around”

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jun 21, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, hell, I’m sure Bowling Green was scared to lose to Pitt…

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jun 21, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does it have to be the 24th?

Couldn’t Penn State pick up a game at the end of the year like Wisconsin seems to do with Hawaii every year?

by whistlinwill on Jun 18, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea what you're talking about...

+1

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jun 22, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't see why not, but

the pool of teams that have open space on their schedules at the end of the season is way smaller than early in the season since most teams are either still playing conference games, or have noncon rivalry games scheduled there.

by Brett Brown on Jun 18, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the Big Ten schedule extends to Thanksgiving weekend starting in 2010, so even playing a game on 9/24/11 leaves us with a bye — in 2011, for example, we also have an open weekend on 11/5/11. I guess we could schedule a game on 11/5 or 12/3 if we wanted to, but I suspect PSU would prefer to have more games during the warmer period and keep a bye on 11/5.

by Laaaaazzz on Jun 18, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would Scheduling California (not the one from PA) be possible

I would like to see California. Would it be possible to play a late game at Cal in 2011 followed by a home game against Cal in 2012. I realize that this might lead to a back to back games against Cal; one at Berkely and one in Pasedena. TCU would be another team that might be interesting late in the season.

by whistlinwill on Jun 18, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt Cal would travel to PSU in 2012 since they already have a game at Ohio State.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Helllooo

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to post this picture anytime they score. Of course, by 2011, we’ll be posting with our minds.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Once we start posting with our minds

this turns into a hardcore bacon fetish porn site in about 10 minutes.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jun 18, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You don't mean that as a bad thing, do you?

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

How could I?

But where would I post my diatribes on Penn State football? I doubt they could compete with picture of a nubile 19 year old wrapping bacon around a _______________________ and then __________________________ while______________ puts on __________________________ in the __________________________ at _________________________’s house.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jun 18, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tell you what

You can post your diatribes on Penn State football in a fanpost, and then we’ll fill the comments with a pictures of a nubile 19 year old wrapping bacon around a _______________________ and then __________________________ while______________ puts on __________________________ in the __________________________ at _________________________’s house.

Fair deal.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Either way

what both of you just described sounds hot.

by Screen Name 20 on Jun 18, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

How is that any different than what happens now?

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jun 18, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gerbil – Frying it – Tim Curley – Capri Pants – Wine Cellar – Mario Lemeiux

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jun 18, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

BSD Mad Libs

Just one more way to make the off-season go faster

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jun 18, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

The nubile 19 year old fried ____ and put it in her ____, while her hot boyfriend, ______ sat at his ______ and messily ______ Jamelle Cornley and Daryll Clark in the _ of ___ doing his thing.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s either this, or work.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

-bacon – container – ReadingRambler – computer – photoshopped – picture – Hightower.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to bet

“Container” wasn’t your first choice for that blank, unless she was taking that container to her boyfriend, which would explain why he messily photoshopped, since his hands were slippery with bacon grease.

I’m reading way too much into this aren’t I? This is what happens when I wake up early.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

that reminded me of Seinfeld

where George tries eating a sandwich while sleeping with someone

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 18, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

My limited knowledge in forestry

leads me to be confused by this picture. A sycamore is a type of tree, yet their mascot is not a tree, it’s a blue fox that kind of looks like Crash Bandicoot.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

The hot young diva _ the bandicoot, while _ celebrated his _ _ in the _ _ _ _ by ____ out of the _.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

fried – Lemieux – team’s – victory – Stanley – Cup – Final Series – drinking – Cup

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Larry Bird?

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jun 18, 2009 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Great success!

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly like that

This may be the silver lining to this game.

by Screen Name 20 on Jun 18, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, just pointing out

Their uniforms are made by NewBalance… NewBalance makes football uniforms?

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Jun 18, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard it has to do with his mustache.

I’m not sure if it’s just the shade it gives from the lighting, or if his mustache actually gives off UV rays at his disclosure.

Something to be researched, I suppose.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jun 18, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry. Still feeling outrage.

We should feel OK that PSU has just scheduled the weakest opponent possible? These guys are the basketball equivalent of NJIT.

by Cairo on Jun 18, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Here's an idea

Let’s bring back the Bucknell series. Sure it’s been 50 years, but at least there would be a lot of local buzz about it.

by BSD on Jun 18, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

New rule

You can only play a D-IAA team as an undercard for a night game.

by Cairo on Jun 18, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

Whatever. Bama and 3 cupcakes is fine with me. It’d be nice if that 9/24 game can be a solid BCS team, but I won’t be too upset if that doesn’t happen.

 As far as it being a 1AA team, does it really matter? Who cares if it’s Indiana State or Akron that we beat 40-0?

by speedomike on Jun 18, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

All about the Benjamins

You’re right. Beating Indiana State is equivalent to beating Akron. It makes no difference in the eyes of voters. But ISU only cost us $450,000 while Akron probably cost us around $800,000.

by BSD on Jun 18, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, no.

I get what you’re saying, but beating Indiana State is like beating Lebanon Valley College. Akron at least wins a few D-1 games every year.

--
Order your copy of "We Are Penn State", like, now. One team, 128 pages.

by Run Up The Score on Jun 18, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but if 450,000 grand isn’t much compared to what PSU will take from the game I don’t see how an extra 350K is going to break the AD’s ability to support all the teams.

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Computers

It makes a big different in the computers, god forbid they still exist in 2011. I’ve always argued that a crap win is a crap win, but when the computers see a team ranked 180 overall that plays at the D1aa level you bet your bacon it’s better to beat up on an equally winnable MAC team that will come in a lot closer to 90.

by KevinHD on Jun 18, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just another reason

why playing D1AA teams is bullshit. I hate it. Didn’t the AD take in like 15 mil in profit last season? Come on!

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Computers

I can see that argument to a certain extent. But, I wonder how many times a game like this has actually screwed a team over in the BCS. I’m honestly trying to think if there’s ever been a situation where a (BCS conference) team was left out of the title game because of strength of schedule.

by speedomike on Jun 18, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Auburn

Played a schedule with two FCS teams at the time I believe.

by STU Boy on Jun 18, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's more embarissing in the beginning of the year

whaen you are #1 in those top ten lists of worst games. For example, I believe Coastal Carolina landed us at #2 behind Oklahoma vs some sort of Community College.

by cpm126 on Jun 18, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

But they were also ranked behind USC and Oklahoma in both polls. Now, I guess you could say part of the reason they were behind was because of the schedule, but USC and Oklahoma were ranked 1 and 2 from the very beginning of the season. Sort of like in 2005 when USC and Texas were 1 and 2 from the beginning. The schedule certainly didn’t help, but I don’t think it was THE reason they got left out of the title game that year.

by speedomike on Jun 18, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, it's the top of the schedule that matters

This isn’t the RPI, where every team counts. The pundits and pollsters (except for Mark May) only look at the best OOC team you play when evaluating your schedule. The other 3 get ignored.

Oh, and that best OOC is evaluated on reputation, not actual record at the end of the year.

by PSU Mudder on Jun 18, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and that best OOC is evaluated on reputation, not actual record at the end of the year.

“What do you mean, Georgia and Clemson stink? I don’t care, they were ranked high when Bama played them! Bama to number one in our polls!”

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Penn State Football

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

by Screen Name 20 on Jun 18, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Tee hee hee

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Give me your

tired, poor, your huddled masses, so that we can beat them into the ground for an expected blowout game just so we can fill up the stadium and make beaucoup bucks.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

FACT. (Really!)

Average score last year: Opponent 42.3, Indiana State 8.3

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by Run Up The Score on Jun 18, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing to lose, nothing to win.

Dumb penalties and dumber injuries can result with a team this bad.

Also, the starters won’t play for very long. I don’t know if that’s good a week before a big game.

by Cairo on Jun 18, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

starters not playing is bad IMO

very bad. Who wants to come in cold for Bama?

"If you let the men in you've got to let the women in. I don't want a bunch of women walking around in my locker room when guys take showers". Joe Paterno

by letsgopsu on Jun 18, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's funny is

They have had years where they play, Northern, Southern, Eastern and Western Illinois, as well as Illinois State.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jun 18, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

So...

I should expect to see Penn Tech, Wilkes, York College, Chatham, PSU-Behrend, and Bucks County Community College on the ’12 schedule?

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by Run Up The Score on Jun 18, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, that's ridiculous

we would never schedule Penn Tech and Bucks Co Community College in the same year…we’re trying to win games, not lose them.

by Screen Name 20 on Jun 18, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Noticed that, too.

And kept thinking, “how many friggin’ 1-AA schools are in that state?!?” It’s like all those directional schools in Michigan, but a level lower.

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by Run Up The Score on Jun 18, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

but they scored 35 on Purdon't when Oatmeal Man was the coach :D

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by xozte on Jun 18, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree!

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

E-mail

Does anyone know his e-mail? We need to flood him with our disgust.

by cjj127 on Jun 18, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do we have to settle for this?

Mich State has scheduled teams like Bama, ND, and WVU. The will have years with 2 or 3 respectable programs on the schedule. I understand the need for a patsie or 2, but it seems we have only ONE quality OCC game per year.

Settle it on the field!

by PSUncle1981 on Jun 18, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

This is gold, Jerry, gold

Indiana State’s last victory was against Missouri State in 2006. And that win broke a 24 game losing streak dating back to 2004. After the ISU head coach had this to say.

"This was a total team effort today by our guys," head coach Lou West said. "We came together and made the plays we needed to make at the right times to get a victory. I am just so happy and proud for our players. This is the first of many, many victories for our program."

They haven’t won a game since, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t win another game between now and 2011 either.

In the game MSU had four turnovers and had three drives stall where they had to settle for field goals.

by BSD on Jun 18, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Missouri State

The coach who lost was Terry Allen, who was head coach at Kansas from 1997 to 2001.

by Cairo on Jun 18, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pat Hill

Let’s go after a Fresno State. Pat Hill says he will play anyone anytime anywhere.

by cjj127 on Jun 18, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Hell yeah

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I drove back home from State College to Oklahoma

I would stay overnight in Terre Haute, Indiana.

That is all.

by Cairo on Jun 18, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Adding nothing.

We stayed in Grand Island, Nebraska during one of our PA to CO journeys.

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by Run Up The Score on Jun 18, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

no,

cause NEEEBRAAASSSKIIIIII suckss

"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter

by xozte on Jun 18, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

SICK

This is really starting to piss me off. I don’t care if we schedule a BCS team and lose by 50. Anything is better than playing kid brother schools. Penn State should be ashamed of this money grubbing, stat padding scheme.

"Red, it took me sixteen years to get here. You play me, and I'll give ya the best I got."

by Touchdown on Jun 18, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Shame is not an option

When it comes to scheduling.

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by Run Up The Score on Jun 18, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one seems to mention

That we are screwing Indiana by playing them at home two consecutive years. If this was being done to PSU there would be OUTRAGE in the Nittany Nation. This happened once before where we played OSU at home twice in a row when we first joined the Big 10, but I don’t think it has ever happened to us where we had to go on the road twice in a row. As for the 2011 schedule, there is no rule that says that you can only play one quality non conference game a year…if we can schedule Oregon State less than a year in advance, then they could find a half-way decent team to play in 2011.

by mundyscorner99 on Jun 18, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

We played at Michigan consecutive times in 2002 and 2005 (we didn’t play them in 2003-4).

by Laaaaazzz on Jun 18, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

and coincidentally

the refs made some “suspect” calls in those games.

[trying to keep a straight face]

Oh, who am I kidding, they f’d us.

by Screen Name 20 on Jun 18, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

GAWD

I was at the 02 game. The one of the refs that ruled Johnson out of bounds LIVED in Ann FREAKIN Arbor.

"Red, it took me sixteen years to get here. You play me, and I'll give ya the best I got."

by Touchdown on Jun 18, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot about that one

Was trying to go just on memory…thanks.

by mundyscorner99 on Jun 18, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh

I always say this, but if the B10 becomes competative again none of this will matter. We have ’Bama already, if the B10 is good by then no one will care.

The only reason people are baggin on our OOC schedule is that the B10 conference as a whole has been mediocre recently.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Jun 18, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Unfortunately

It seems that the match ups against 1-AA teams are pretty much here to stay. Since the 12th game was added to the schedule, pretty much every AD working for a major program penciled that in as an extra home game. With all the mid major programs driving up the cost of getting them to come in for a certain blow-out everyone is turning towards the 1-AA teams. Just take a look through most teams non-conference schedules. I’m sure we can all find exceptions, but almost everybody adheres to the one good team, 2 mid majors and a 1-AA format. This coming season out of the 65 BCS conference teams, there are 56 1-A vs 1-AA match-ups.

by Brett Brown on Jun 18, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Why not Pitt or WVU

Penn State should look to reignite an old rivalry with the first game of the season. A home & home with either of these schools would be a plus for both universities. A Labor day battle for Pennsylvania sounds like a decent start to the season and a TV slot.

by whistlinwill on Jun 18, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

WVU sounds good

However. WVU is a series, not a rivalry. 48-9-2. They beat us exactly twice during the Paterno era. I know this is merely trivial, but whatever.

And, by the way, we don’t need a game to determine who the “champion of Pennsylvania” is. I think that’s pretty clear.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Temple might have beaten Pitt last year…

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

why would a game between PSU and WVU be for the Champion of PA??
Last time I had geography class, West Virginia was not in Pennsylvania.

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jun 18, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand the anger, but is anyone really that surprised?

cjj127 said above exactly what I was going to say on this thread before I read his comment: e-mail Curley.

There’s no point in just fuming here, although I’m sure there’s some comfort in discussing and laughing at how pathetic this is. Nothing is going to change if people just sit back and let it happen and continue to buy season tickets year after year without saying a word (and I’m not asking people to stop buying tickets, since that is a futile move resulting in the next alum in line getting your seats as soon as you let them go, with no message sent to the AD). Most likely nothing will change no matter how many e-mails you send, but if you’re going to just vent your frustrations, you might as well try to make some good instead of letting your rage go to waste.

I looked these up. I encourage anyone and everyone to send something voicing your opinion. If you’re going to send something for real, please be respectful and don’t embarrass yourself by just screaming FIRE CURLEY, because I guarantee you nothing positive will come from it (and your alumni season ticket renewal form will probably “accidentally” disappear):

Tim Curley, 814-865-1086, Athletic_Director@athletics.psu.edu
Fran Ganter, 814-865-0411, fxg2@psu.edu

if there’s any others you want to try, you can find them here

By the way, don’t expect to hear anything, or if you do, don’t expect it to be Curley himself, someone under him will do the responding.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Complaint

I agree with the above, though I think it will have no impact. I would suggest, though, that any complaint focuses on managable demands. Demanding no 1-AA schools on the schedule ever probably is not reasonable. Asking for games against 1-AA teams to have some mroe local flavor (like Delaware or Villanova) would be better. Demanding that we have at least one “interesting” BCS conference or high mid-major (like a Boise St or TCU type) on the home schedule every year is probably reasonable.

The 2011 schedule with Alabama at home is actually pretty decent looking so I don’t care much about who the patsies are. But the 2012 home schedule is just atrocious and we really need to schedule a good team for the open spot on 9/22/12. If you want to direct your ire, direct it to the 2012 schedule, not towards a 1-AA game in 2011 (with a home schedule featuring Alabama, Ohio St, Wisconsin, and Iowa).

by Laaaaazzz on Jun 18, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize 2011

had such a badass home schedule. Can’t wait to watch KNew and/or PJ tear it up

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I wrote

Good afternoon. I would like to voice my disappointment with the scheduling of football opponents. To see some of the teams on the schedule is truly a joke. I understand you want to keep as money home games as possible due to the revenue generation, but there are plenty of quality opponents that would be willing to come to play. I went to the Coastal Carolina game as my only game last year and I was truly sad that I went to that game. The game was over by the 2nd quarter and to think I traveled 10 hours there for that. I am sure the undertaking of trying to find an opponent is truly a huge task, but please try to challenge yourself and our future teams by scheduling better opponents.

by cjj127 on Jun 18, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was the use of “money” for “many” intentional? Because if so it was brilliant!

We are not normal. We are legends.

by NittanyAlum02 on Jun 18, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to say so, but no

It still is money. My rage overcame me.

by cjj127 on Jun 18, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is an idea.

Eliminate the border between 1A and 1AA, while we are at it, eliminate D2, D3, the entire NAIA and Juco divisions. Just have “college football.”

Play whoever, whenever, how ever many games you can get. Then the media can retroactively decide what team was the best those years.. I mean PSU is listed as the National Champs for 1911 and 1912 playing schedules of Pitt, tOSU, Cornell, Navy, Nova, Gettysburg, Penn, St. Boneventure, Colgate, Carnegie Tech, Geneva, and Washington & Jefferson. We won titles with those teams and Curley will make sure we do it again!

Why do we never celebrate those squads, and the rest of our 8 national titles? I mean in 11-12 we only gave up 21 total points and was 16-0-1, with a 0-0 tie to Navy. great great squads they were.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

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by Roland86 on Jun 18, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

So the difference between playing these 1-AA jokes

and a 1-A joke is about $350,000 (supposedly $800k for Akron, $450k for Indiana State).

Beaver Stadium holds 107,000+ people. That’s basically $3.25 more per person over the course of the season, or about $0.50 more per home game (in a 7 home game season). I’m willing to bet EVERYONE out there would be willing to pay $3.25 more per season to not see a 1-AA team on the schedule.

Heck, what would a payout be for an even more respectable team than Akron? Let’s even say $2,000,000. minus the $450,000 for ISU, that is an additional $14.50 per season ticket, or about $2 more per game. I know I would be willing to pay that to have a QUALITY opponent.

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 18, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t pay $3.25 per ticket to see Akron over Indiana St. They seem the same to me. The difference between 1-AA cupcake a a 1-A cupcake is meaningless to me.

I would pay more money to see a BCS school or a good mid-major over either a 1-A or 1-AA cupcake.

by Laaaaazzz on Jun 18, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude Akron won 5 BCS games last year

Indiana State probably has trouble winning their spring game. The difference is large in my mind.

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Was one of those Michigan?

Or was that Toledo? I can’t even remember due to all the suck that scUM was last year.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toledo beat UM

Akron beat Cuse

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't asked my Dad what alumni tickets cost

But I’d be willing to bet that the price rises well over $3.25 or $14.50 every year regardless of schedule, but I get your point. I’m sure most people would be willing to pay, even the 14.50 to cover the 2M team, if it meant replacing a cupcake with a halfway descent opponent.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's probably part of the problem

is I could see them increasing tickets by whatever amount, and then doing the same old scheduling bit with crappy teams.

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 18, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I'd like to think that Penn Staters

working in the AD wouldn’t do that to fellow alumni and fans, they know they have everybody by the balls in terms of season ticket sales. Luckily they have enough decency to not exploit their monopoly situation they have going on, but that decency isn’t stopping them from raising the price year after year. They know damn well that everybody is going to pay regardless, and even if some of them get fed up and stop buying, there’s always going to be someone else waiting right behind them.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 18, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

on one hand I hate it, on the other hand there is a thing called supply and demand

and the demand is almost always going to be there. They could probably double the prices and still sell out. Heck, I know it isn’t for every game, but I usually wind up paying 2-3 times face value, just to sit in the upper deck in the south endzone.

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 19, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

They do it with our tuition

I am not a personal fan of Spanier either. He has to be one of the longest serving presidents in the country.

by cjj127 on Jun 18, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

If we're going to play shitty IAA teams

Let’s play Penn. Set up a 9 for 1 home/away series. Christ, our lifetime record against them is 18-21-4.

Or play Yale, who DAMN OWN US, seeing how we’re lifetime 0-7 against them.

Must have eastern vengeance!
http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/all-opp.pl?start=1869&end=2008&team=Penn+State&sort=a

by Tailgate Shogun on Jun 18, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Hell yeah

PSU needs to settle old scores.

"From the outside looking in, you cannot understand it. From the inside looking out, you cannot explian it."

by psuphiman80 on Jun 18, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the idea, but I think it’s been established that no Ivy League team would take a “get the shit beaten out of you for money” deal.

Cowardly douchebags.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE, DANNY?

"I hope after touchdowns this year all our players just point at Zug." - jtothep

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One of the smartasses in the back of the car replied, 'Sherman did.'" - confirmy

by ReadingRambler on Jun 18, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the idea, but I think it’s been established that no Ivy League team would take a "get the shit beaten out of you for money" deal.

Umm, well, they are Ivy Leaguers.

by Screen Name 20 on Jun 18, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

…no Ivy League team would take a "get the shit beaten out of you for money" deal.

At least not since jr. high when they stopped bringing lunch money to school.

Put a tarp on that circus! - showtime @ BSD

by bconway6 on Jun 19, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, you beat me to the punch

and made a funnier comment than I likely would have

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 19, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

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