Was posted last week by Fiutak. Granted, Alabama is a slightly different situation since Saban isn’t sitting on a bunch of samford wins that put him in JoePa’s ballpark, but I kinda dig the tone of telling the National Communists Against Athletes to phuque off with respect to wins vacation. And even with respect to an escalated threat of scholarship removal:

NCAA: “Alabama, you must vacate all 21 wins accumulated from 2005 to 2007.”
Alabama: “No.”
NCAA: “Uh, yes, you must vacate the wins. That’s your punishment.”
Alabama: “No.”
NCAA: “Do it, or we’re taking away some of your scholarships.”
Alabama: “No you won’t.”
NCAA: “That’s it, we’re taking away scholarships.”
Alabama: “No you’re not. We’re going to allow the same number of players to attend our school that we always have. We’re not going to charge them tuition and we’re going to let them stay in the dorms and get their room and board for free. Now go away.”

So now the ball is in your court, NCAA. Either start governing major college athletics and come up with punishments with some teeth to them, or stop wasting everyone’s time by pretending to have some sort of real authority. And while you’re at it, how about tailoring your rules so they’re not begging to be busted. No one’s following them anyway, so it’s time to undergo an overhaul on how you conduct your business. And along the way, Alabama has a message for you … vacate this.

I obviously don’t agree with his pretension that the NCAA needs these schools enough to tolerate this level of sass, but I gotta admit: the possibilities kind of excite me.

then they should also superscript those damn wins from Samson College…

I mean, really. Both guys are great coaches, neither has as many wins as Eddie Robinson or John Gagliardi, and all of this posturing about valid and invalid wins is just a stupid, concocted smokescreen. We can go through decades of patsies, cupcakes, and academic/criminal discrepancies, and neither guy has won as many games as Robinson or Gagliardi.

They all coached a long time and won a lot of games. GOOD FOR YOU, I say.

Tired of this shit. Tie-rrrd.

(Also in a monumentally shitty mood this week, so…)

Kids considered as having PSU as a leader:

Fortt LB
Royer DE

Kids we have a legit shot at:

Easly DL
Floyd DL
Kenney WR
Haplea TE
Harvenstein OL
Jones DL
Kolb OL
Zwazinak FB

Kids we have an outside chance at, but really want:

Bolden QB
Stills WR
Lattimore RB
Olaniyan DL

Now I’m not sure how the coaches see it, but from that article we can take a maximum of 7 of those kids. That’s going to be really tough, especially when it’s Feb of next year and we’re out of schollys and a blue-chip is still considering us…

A google search for “penn state oversigning” first asks you if you meant “penn state oversinging”, which is hilarious. The actual results are about the school’s great oversight or, obviously, Alabama.

(which is still seems to be a creepy way to get updates, but so it goes…)

Lady Lions point guard Brianne O’Rourke has found herself a post-grad team in the Austrian Flying Foxes. Not surprisingly, there’s not all too much information out there on the team (well, at least not for a guy trying to do quick searches), but here’s something. She’ll join former Penn Stater Romana Vynuchalova on the team (unless the link is old and the team has changed since).

While she didn’t receive as many accolades as some of our previous point guards, O’Rourke did a solid job as a starter for all 4 years at Penn State. And considering the state of women’s basketball, it’s great news for her to find a career in basketball after graduation. Hopefully the Euro leagues do her well!

they protest vacating wins instead of protesting the scholarship limits. Limiting scholarships a) deprives someone of the ability to receive a free education, which is supposed to be the soul of college athletics and b) directly impacts the football programs subsequent success. If I was a University being punished, I would beg to vacate wins, since it is in essance a meaningless punishment.

I read that Dr. Saturday article, and there wasn’t one mention of the asterisks that are already next to Bobby’s name for the Samford era, or even any mention of it. God forbid he could ever pass Joe, even counting these wins that will be taken away, there’s still a huge disclaimer about a big chunk of those wins at a lower level. And the argument that there wasn’t a clear level at the time he coached there is complete bullshit when you look at the teams he beat. I’d like to see how many schools on Joe’s win list were against teams that no longer exist, while Bobby was playing Mexico U. And as someone mentioned above, you have a third asterisk for that forfeit “win” of Bowdens.

…why everyone is trying to make this into something it’s not. As far as I’m concerned, it goes like this (think back to your systematic high school math proofs):

1) Bowden’s players cheated.
2) Cheating is obviously not allowed by both the university and the NCAA.
3) If the players cheated, and cheating is not allowed, FSU had ineligible players on their roster.
4) These ineligible players played in 14 FSU wins.
5) If ineligible players played in game, then the wins were achieved illegally.
6) These illegal wins are outlawed by the NCAA, and therefore don’t count.

What is so hard about this? Usually I’m all about “shades of grey,” but this is pretty black and white right here. You cheated, you got caught, these are the consequences.

We all know that Bowden runs (and has run) a sleazy program…it’s been proven through multiple major infractions over the past few decades. Finally, Bowden and FSU are being punished.

But now we want to talk asterisks? Fine, let’s play that game. What if FSU wins 2 more games than PSU this year? Obviously, it’s Bowden’s record with an asterisk. But hey, I can play Devil’s Advocate too…the Samford wins shouldn’t count, and his claim of a forfeit shouldn’t count…but they do. That’s two asterisks for Bobby compared to one for JoePa. Well hey, at least Bobby beat JoePa at something!