Nitt Picks Puts Honey Mustard on His Sandwich
Any time Penn State takes a kid from State College High School there is a small contingent of fans who think it was a token off of some sort. Kids that get plucked from the back yard always face that kind of scrutiny, but as the York Daily Record points out in an interview with Cory James of Fight On State, Alex Kenney is anything but a token offer.
"Being in the backyard might make people second-guess" the pickup, said Cory James of Scout.com, a national recruiting service. "But you can tell by the offers that he's a legit prospect, not just a token offer. He's real fast but also has some (bulk) to him. He can kind of muscle through some things."He can do reverses and pitches in the backfield. ... He definitely could fit the Derrick Williams' role."
I seem to recall a few State High kids named Larry Johnson and Jordan Norwood working out okay in the past. The offer list James mentions included Boston College, Virginia, Illinois, Pitt, Stanford, NC State, North Carolina, Purdue, Syracuse, Michigan State, Minnesota, and Northwestern. So it's not like Penn State was the only BCS school to offer him.
The Centre Daily Times also got an interview with Kenney that's worth reading.
Moving on, the Philly Inquirer has an interesting article on Daryll Clark. In it, Clark details what he's working on this summer.With that said, Clark is focused only on contending for a national championship and winning another conference title.
That's why he's leading his teammates on 6 a.m. runs each Tuesday and Thursday this summer. That's why he follows that up by dissecting last season's game film.
Afterward, he's either participating in offense-vs.-defense drills or playing catch with the wideouts.
Not satisfied, Clark works on his footwork and regularly throws on his own on Wednesdays at Haluba Hall, Penn State's main indoor practice facility.
"This period right now is a time for me to get myself fundamentally sound with all my mechanics," he said. "Some plays, I get lazy with my play-action, my follow-throughs, things like that. I want to be so crisp, I will be able to complete passes in my sleep."
Does anyone else get the impression Clark is going to be an absolute stud this year?
Another stud in the making is Jack Crawford, who Bruce Feldman listed as one of his top ten players to watch this season.
Jack Crawford, DE, Penn State: Even though Penn State made its bones as Linebacker U., the program really has done an excellent job of developing standout defensive ends of late. (Courtney Brown, Michael Haynes, Tamba Hali and Aaron Maybin come immediately to mind.) Next in D-line coach Larry Johnson's pipeline is Crawford, a British-born pass-rushing force who has generated quite a buzz during the past few months in Happy Valley. The 6-5, 265-pound Crawford, one of just three true freshmen to play in every game for PSU last season, grew up boxing and playing cricket. He also has some PSU insiders believing that he has more potential than any of the ends Johnson has coached.
Crawford was No. 7 on his list. Terrelle Pryor came in at No. 2, and coming in at No. 9 is some guy named Phil Taylor, a defensive tackle at Baylor. Anybody ever heard of him?
Let It Go Bobby
The daily saga of Bobby Bowden and the struggle to hang on to his 14 illegal wins just won't go away.
Bobby throws out the hypothetical example of a kid at Notre Dame or Penn State getting caught cheating on a test and suggests the NCAA is opening a can of worms in that they will have to vacate wins everywhere to be consistent. But we're not talking about one or two kids cheating here. This was widespread almost institutionalized cheating that showed a lack of control by the coaches and athletic department. In the past the NCAA has been known to make teams forfeit for using a single ineligible player, so I think this is consistent with NCAA policy.
But it's getting really sad in the Bowden camp when he starts having his kids lobby for him.
Terry Bowden, who returned to coaching for the first time since he was fired as Auburn's coach in 1998, said he hopes FSU wins its appeal.
"I think it's important to everybody who played for Joe Paterno or Bobby Bowden," Terry Bowden said. "They can tell their kids they played for the all-time winningest coach in college football history. I want to bounce my grandkids on my knee and tell them about Bobby Bowden as the all-time winningest coach and not Joe Paterno."
This past weekend Joe Paterno weighed in on Bowden's scandal in his interview with the Reading Eagle.
The NCAA is going to do what it's going to do, but I would hope they would not take away 10 or 12 wins away from him. I don't think that's fair. He coached the team he had; they played against people, and they won. They ought to be wins for them.
Frankly, I'm surprised that Joe Paterno would say something like this. In my opinion he's damaging his legacy as the architect of the Grand Experiment. Paterno has championed himself as the king of academic integrity for the student athlete over his career, but in this case he blows it off when dozens of students get caught in a widespread cheating scandal. I know Bowden and Paterno are friends, but Joe would be better served to just answer "No comment" next time.
Basketball News
New Nittany Lion Bill Edwards is on campus working out with the team now, and early indications are he looks like he could suit up and give us 20 solid minutes tomorrow if he had to. The Centre Daily Times got an interview with him, and I especially like this quote.
"I love the game of basketball. I hate when people disrespect it, and when I say that I mean as far as ball-hogging or something like that," Edwards said. "If a guy’s open, I’m going to find a way to get him the ball. If he has the hot hand, try to get him the ball. Growing up, that was just something I always wanted to have in my game."
Unselfish players traditionally do quite well at Penn State. You have a fine career ahead of you, Mr. Edwards.
In Scores of Other Games
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FACT:
Clark also practices fist pumps in his spare time.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 15, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This sounds familiar
When several players visited a Foot Locker and turned F$U into Free Shoes University, Bowden didn’t know anything about it.
When Peter Warrick and Laveraneus Coles got the discount at Dillard’s, Bowden didn’t know anything about it.
When Adrian McPherson was stealing checks, cashing stolen checks at a pawn shop, and (allegedly) gambling, Bowden testified he didn’t know anything about it.
When 25 of his players cheated in an online music class, he didn’t know anything about it.
Sure, he did something about it…after the incidents happened, and after it got national attention.
Bowden will be known for nothing more than coaching football.
by dmoney350z on Jul 15, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Will be known"???
Uhh.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 15, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aside from that..
I have two issues with the Bowden situation almost separate from the main one. First, just as JoePa is being gracious to Bowden in saying that his wins should not be taken away, Bowden should be gracious in not crying to every media outlet available. Let the University fight it and shut up. Second, Terry Bowden sacrifices any sort of journalistic credibility (although I guess he is some sort of coach now) with his ridiculous lack of neutrality. When Bob Griese broadcast his son’s games, he referred to him as "Griese" or "the quarterback", not "my boy". When Bowden was on ABC, he always referred to FSU as "my daddy’s team" or Clemson as "my brother’s team". At that point, any analysis given really can’t be taken seriously. It’s like Lou Holtz predicting Notre Dame’s record.
by cpm126 on Jul 15, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RE: Bill Edwards
For some reason I don’t remember anything about this guy. When did he commit?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 15, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Committed Late
Kinda unknown, reputation as a scorer, but an all around player. This is off memory, but I think he is a lefty, good 3-point shooter. Cross between a 2 or a 3. Please correct me if I’m wrong as I am at work doing this off my head
by STU Boy on Jul 15, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty accurate
In this age where scouts start watching kids in the fifth grade, Edwards was kind of unknown. That’s because his dad was playing in Europe and he lived over there. He’s been in the States the past few years and got attention. I believe he was a plan B kid for some big programs. So he may have fell back on Penn State, but we’ll take him!
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Jul 15, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
clark
here’s hoping he can stay unconcussed this season.
3 seasons ago, PSU ran 3 down lineman with a standup DE/LB(shaw). anyone think we will be doing that this year? in other words, how much depth at DE do we have after crawford?
or just slide a few DTs outside?
I looked at Ohrnberger in the fourth quarter and he looked back at me. And we said, 'We're not losing this game"
by psudrozz on Jul 15, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I would have picked Stanford
Whoa, whoa, just kidding there fellas!
And by the way, DC’s already a stud. Fist pump yo ass for thinking otherwise.
Did that come out wrong?
by Mr. Rosewater on Jul 15, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, yes it did
but look at it this way, now we can laugh at you and mock you mercilessly for it.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 15, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he did..
he could barely be a doucheabag
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter
by xozte on Jul 15, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Devlin fans are relentless
So the first post under the Philly Inquirer article about Clark is from a Devlin fan. Damn, those people are relentless. I mean good luck to Pat, but really?
by CvilleLion on Jul 15, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DC could break passing records and win the Heisman
and those people would still cry foul.
Those people = ?
by Mr. Rosewater on Jul 15, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's just one guy . . .
. . . and he posts on every PSU message board. Nah.
by CvilleLion on Jul 15, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean, those people?
by Screen Name 20 on Jul 15, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy's name is George Busch?
HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA!!
by Mr. Rosewater on Jul 15, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, I had to win one
Icersguy beat me to the Beerfest quote on one of the other threads.
by Screen Name 20 on Jul 15, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a Philly paper
Devlin was the hometown kid. There were a lot of expectations on Devlin by the local people after his stellar high school career. Some of them are obviously annoyed that his talent was wasted.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Jul 15, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
But taking shots at Clark — after the season he had — is just a bizarre way of expressing disappointment about Devlin. Oh well . . .
by CvilleLion on Jul 15, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is, and it is definitely petty and unsportsmanlike
but somewhat understandable. You have great expectations for a guy, and then he goes and sits on a bench for his whole career. The only thing I don’t like is that Devlin still could have had his shot at PSU, but HE decided to transfer.
And Devlin may very well be as good as people think, but Clark is just as good if not better. Why hate on that? Especially if you are a PSU fan?
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 15, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some people are just a-holes
and the internet is a way for them to express themselves w/o getting personally called out on it. No matter what article you read, some idiot is going to post some unreasonable negatives.
Clark had a great season last year. There’s no reason for them to tear him down b/c they wanted Devlin, who may or may not have had a successful season if he was in that position.
by Screen Name 20 on Jul 15, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Devlin may end up being a better pro someday
But DC will go down as a PSU legend if he has the season we are all expecting. Maybe one of the 3 best to ever play QB for Penn State.
by STU Boy on Jul 15, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm
I assume you have him behind Blackledge and Collins….but I dont see how you could put him ahead of Tony Sacca….. Or Wally Richardson….
by RitterPSU on Jul 15, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he wins another big ten title, another BCS trip?
I mean in the big ten era we haven’t had back to back league titles, so that is good. He had what 29 total(run+pass) tds last year? If we have the exact same record as last year only switch the bowl game to a win, I think Clark is a solid top 3-4 guy. Running the table puts him arguably at the top.
Then again, this may be more than just his stats. A good story and fiery kid with that “it” factor. Kind of how M-Rob is looked upon so proudly even though he was only a great quarterback for about 9 games, He did so much more. Just my thoughts.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Jul 15, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It'll be tough to jump ahead
of John Shaffer and Chuck Burkhart, simply due to the team’s results with them at the helm.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jul 16, 2009 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing that annoyed me the most was that Clark earned his starting role. He outperformed Devlin despite his ZOMG 4 STARS! And even if you don’t believe he won that starting spot on merit, no one can deny he proved it on the field.
My point is that Clark’s development as a QB and as a football player has been incredible, from the ill-advised dive into the endzone at the Alamo bowl to throwing for almost 300 yards against “the best defense ever in the history of college football”. Clark had better numbers against USC than Tebow and Bradford did against each other.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
by millzners on Jul 15, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love the Ohio State blog post
But, but, but every game we lost was to a good team, and we barely lost them. I also love the shots he gets in at Penn State. It’s so obvious how much our wins against them hurt.
by speedomike on Jul 15, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
please please please say he used the word "barely" lost them
I am just about to read it
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 15, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
And, actually, I didn’t really read the whole thing before I posted. It wasn’t that bad.
by speedomike on Jul 15, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow @ that pot shot
a merely very good #3 team in the nation. When your post it is to talk about losing to top teams, why deflate one of those teams (especially one that didn’t lose any games in regulation time. 60:01 doesn’t count :-p )
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 15, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Merely is the new Barely!!!!!1!!
Bacon is almost as great as being a Penn Stater
by NittanyTide on Jul 15, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm tempted to post
But that’s probably his goal, just like the bleacher report doucheabag. Most of their posts have single-digit comments.
by speedomike on Jul 15, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should be called WWAHTP
We Will Always Have Terry Porter.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Jul 15, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually enjoy Sam's work over at WWAHT
His point was more to discredit those Buckeye fans who always wear the, well I guess scarlet-tinted glasses. One of his ways in doing so was to note that, yes Penn State had a very solid team in 2005, but it perhaps wasn’t one of the best teams. (Something I’m sure we would all strongly debate.) He was making the point to show that tOSU’s losses haven’t been to the zOMG elite of the elite, and he’s just trying to use more than just Illinois to make the point.
Heck, I’ll use his words:
While Penn State was very good that year and a touchdown better than Ohio State, they were by no means a powerhouse. I don’t say this to be incendiary, but outside of the win over Ohio State, they didn’t do a whole lot to put themselves into the discussion.The entire tone of the post wasn’t to just bash Penn State – he just tried to twist history a bit to fit his argument. It just so happened that he used our 2005 team in a lesser light.
Again, it’s something that we could debate with him vehemently. But for who, for what – we still won that game and that’s all that matters!
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
by IcersGuy on Jul 15, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop being so rational and objective
by speedomike on Jul 15, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...I know, I know
Even more strange is that I’m (mostly) a Philadelphia sports fan – usually a group that uses as little logic as possible when it comes to sports arguments.
Again, if it weren’t for the fact that I enjoy Sam’s writings over there, I wouldn’t have defended the point. He’s one of those actually even-keel Buckeye fans. Heck – he did an entire series on who to add to the Big Televen to get us to the magic 12. (You know, when fans of the other schools were mocking JoePa for the idea.)
So I respect him. Barely.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
by IcersGuy on Jul 15, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
Basically my first reading of it involved skimming over everything but what he said about Penn State. Then I went back and read it again and realized he brought some level-headedness to the table.
by speedomike on Jul 15, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was definitely even keeled
and that 2005 squad wasn’t the end all be all dominant school, but we were 3rd in the country with 1 questionable loss, which I think is a tad better than merely very good. Perhaps it is the “merely” part that I have a question with, as I’d settle with “very good”
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 15, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rivalry chili is simmering!
It’s so obvious how much our wins against them hurt.
I was getting the feeling throughout the article that as it was trying to be as rational as would fit his point, he made sure to get the shots in at PSU. Just as michigan’s (officiating endorsed) streak created a seething hatred from us but nothing from them, maybe the continued success against michigan is making o$u fans look to us for the make or break game for the season (as far as standings and things go).
O$u-michigan will always have huge implications in qualifying a season as a success or not for those two teams. It just hasn’t been a competitive series in recent years with o$u winning the last 5. I could be making more of this than probably is worth it since it was 1 vs 2 in ‘The Game’ just 3 seasons ago in 2006.
This is not to say that a PSU-o$u rivalry will overtake the o$u-mich game, but just that it will become a bona fide rivalry with teams actually beating each other.
Put a tarp on that circus! - showtime @ BSD
by bconway6 on Jul 15, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What knock on Chick-Fil-A?
I humbly quote MnB Dave:
It should be know that the author will kill a motherfucker for a crispy chicken sandwich right about now
That man knows good chicken.
I tried McDonald’s knockoff of the Chick-Fil-A sandwich once- dear Zug that was disgusting.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!
by leeharvey418 on Jul 15, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Lee Harvey
I looooooove me some chick-fil-a.
Maize n Brew
Because Football is Better with Beer
by Maize n Brew Dave on Jul 15, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McDonalds has a way
of doing that – copying something and making their version nasty.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Jul 15, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHOA
you’re not talking about the McRib, because that shit was awesome….
by Tailgate Shogun on Jul 15, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strangely
the only Chick-Fil-A’s I’ve been able to find in the north have been at student unions. PSU has one, thank Zug, and also one in the union at the University of Minnesota.
Put a tarp on that circus! - showtime @ BSD
by bconway6 on Jul 15, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 in Philly
One at the hood mall (the Gallery) and one at the rich mall (Liberty Place) and one on the Columbus Ave strip. I love it.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09
by kmblue on Jul 15, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there used to me one in the King of Prussia mall, have not been there for years though so it may be gone
"If you let the men in you've got to let the women in. I don't want a bunch of women walking around in my locker room when guys take showers". Joe Paterno
by letsgopsu on Jul 16, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was there last year
There are also Chic-fil-a’s in Royersford and Reading.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Jul 16, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man I ate WAY too much Chick-Fil-A at the HUB back in the day
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Jul 16, 2009 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But is the Chick-fil-A better than the (RIP) Chicken Cosmo?
"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza
by NJ lion on Jul 16, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Different animal
No pun intended…
The Chick-Fil-A sandwich is a Southern delicacy- up there with Carolina Barbeque and boudin balls.
The Chicken Cosmo (Zug rest its soul) was the epitome of dining hall comfort food- you knew damn well it was bad for you, but you didn’t care because it made you feel better to eat one.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!
by leeharvey418 on Jul 16, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well "feel" is a vague word
mentally feel? absolutely
physically feel? questionable
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 16, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESSS EEE CCCC
As a PSU alum living in SC, I plan on using those tips to piss of lots of SEC fans all season. Hopefully they can understand the words I use.
by cjj127 on Jul 15, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lolrednecksarestupidlol
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 15, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never heard that one before!
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 15, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touche Reading
Come on down here and we can watch Lattimore play and make fun of rednecks.
by cjj127 on Jul 15, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bowden Situation
On one hand I see where he’s coming from that the school took immediate action. But they still broke the rules and should have to live with the consequences. Just like he said in this article: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1347&dat=19831109&id=vyUVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mvsDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5110,3169571 (make sure you copy and paste, as the link leaves off the last part) that teams shouldn’t be able to play with ineligible players. He was more than willing to take (and even lobbied for) a forfeit against Tulane (anything to help him get to a bowl game).
Also, I love his quote in the video above, (something like) “why is the NCAA involved? this is an academic issue and should be handled by the university”. Um, Mr. Bowden, you do realize that it is the National Collegiate Athletic Association. Their job is pretty much exactly this: to make sure teams play on the same level field, and that ineligible players are not allowed to participate in games, and if they do, those games should be forfeited. As I mentioned above, you yourself benefitted from such rules. Also, it isn’t like the NCAA is coming in and suspending these players from class, assigning them grades, or expelling them (which is a common outcome of cheating). They’re just saying they can’t participate in sports for the periods in which they cheated. That seems pretty much in line with their mission.
But I guess you wouldn’t know that, since you seem to be pretty ignorant about your team (do you even know your players names, yet?) and all things related to college football.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 15, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice summary.
I would just like to add that Joe Pa didn’t know that Chris Baker was gonna stomp people. He didn’t know a mob of players were gonna storm the meridian. He didn’t know that Evans and Koroma were gonna spark up. So, why did Joe get the OTL treatment, I mean, he didn’t know.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Jul 15, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Becasue Joe should have
known he recruited rotten players from the ghetto to boost his ailing program. He should have known the evil and diabolical nature of these, these, these bad bad men. Joe should just know this stuff cause he’s old.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Jul 15, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
call it a test of character
did you know that oklahoma used two ineligible freshman in their first win over joepa in the 1972 Sugar Bowl? the ncaa wanted oklahoma to forfeit that bowl game and give the win to psu, but joe said that they lost the game, and he didn’t want to accept a forfeit.
"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who
by afields16 on Jul 15, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think of it this way
If they take the wins away, and Joe Paterno gets the record, Paterno gets the asterik because they took the wins away from Bobby.
If they don’t take the wins away, and Bobby Bowden gets the record, Bobby gets the asterik because of all of the wins at Samford, which are bullshit, plain and simple.
I think Paterno just wants to win the record fair and square, not have it handed to him by an adminsitrative agency and have people saying “yeah but…” for the rest of his life.
"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008
by jesse. on Jul 15, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Asterisk my ass.
The only people who will say that are FSU’s fans, and they’ll sound like idiots. Paterno’s got a two-game lead in “actual wins” right now, and there’s absolutely no way FSU fans can ignore the NCAA-excluded wins but keep the NCAA-given win. There is no logic that makes that work, whatsoever.
As for what Paterno wants: I really think Joe just doesn’t care. He’s shown absolutely no signs of caring whatsoever, and Joe’s not that media sly that he could pull off that good an acting job.
by Bleed Blue 'n White on Jul 15, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's how I see it as well
basically no matter how you look at it, Paterno has the lead right now. If FSU complains about forfeit wins, then instead of being 15 games back they’d be 2 games back, cuz the sword should cut both ways as far as asteriks are concerned.
The only way for Paterno to ever have an asterik would be if Bowden wins 2+ more games than Paterno over the course of the next 2 seasons, which is possible, but (hopefully) unlikely, especially with the easy schedule this year for PSU (where Bowden would probably have to go undefeated even to get the 2 games).
And who knows if Bowden will even be the coach in 2010 (especially after this ruling). Pretty sure he won’t be coach in 2011, but who knows, FSU might be dumb enough to waste $5 million on that.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 15, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bowden would probably pay it himself,
even though it would completely screw a good loyal guy like Jimbo Fisher.
B-Bow sure seems like that kind o’ guy.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jul 16, 2009 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Jimbo a loyal guy? (actually asking)
wasn’t he the O-cooridnator at LSU a few years ago?
1991-1992 – Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks, Samford University (coincidence? Will he get to claim any of these wins like a mixture of Bowden and Weis?)
1993-1998 – Quarterbacks Coach, Auburn University
1999-2000 – Quarterbacks Coach, University of Cincinnati
2000-2006 – Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks, Louisiana State University
2007-2008 – Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks, Florida State University
2007-2008 – Offensive Coordinator/Head Coach in waiting at Florida State University
I guess he does have an 8 year and 7 year tenure at places, which may be considered long and “loyal” in college football, but I prefer my loyalty to be Penn State 30 year style.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 16, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm......
You’re right.
Disregard previous comment, except for the Bowden portion, please.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jul 16, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want a reason for an asterisk?
I give you:
Bobby’s 1959 season,
Bobby’s 1960 season,
Bobby’s 1961 season,
and Bobby’s 1962 season.
I know this dead horse is well-beaten, but it still irks me that wins over the University of Mexico and the Memphis Naval Air Station club team are included in Bobby’s win count.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!
by leeharvey418 on Jul 16, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well the difference I see with that
is the Oklahoma players were Big 12 ineligible, not NCAA ineligible. They had to forfeit their Big 12 games, but none of the others. That is what I’ve been led to believe as to why we didn’t get the FF win (plus JoePa wouldn’t have wanted it anyway).
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 15, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Does anyone else get the impression Clark is going to be an absolute stud this year?"
I can’t help it. I don’t care what anyone else thinks. I believe Clark is a very good football player. I will admit he had a great o-line to work with but still, he pretty much kicked ass last year. Very tough and smart. If all that stuff about his focus and preparation is for real, we might be in for some special football this fall. And of course, some other schmuck will get all the attention in the conference, which is fine by me.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Jul 15, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Clark
I think there was a little bit of concern that we wouldn’t have the same leadership level on this team this year, but it sounds like Clark is making up for that as best he can. Yes, we no longer will have the “We Are Not Normal” pre-game philosopher, but if Clark can get an entire team of college students to go for runs at 6 in the morning, he’s got to be pretty good.
If he tried to wake me up at 6 in the morning…actually I’m not sure what I would do. There’s a huge internal conflict in me right now. If it were anyone else I’d give them the finger and go back to bed, but how can you resist the fist pump?
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 15, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YOU CAN'T RESIST THE FIST!...YOU CAN'T RESISIT THE FIST!
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Jul 16, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After every run, Clark probably instructs them on how to properly fist pump. Who wouldn’t want to sign up for that?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 16, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard they're teaching the Clark fist pump
at this year’s PSU fantasy camp
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Jul 16, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, duh
You can’t be an awesome QB without it.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 16, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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