Inside-Outside: Dreams and Nightmares
We're back with another addition of "Inside-Outside", where this week we go over our biggest fears and loftiest dreams.
Inside: We all know how important Daryll Clark is to this team this season. But which two other players are the most indispensable to this team?
Kevin Says...
The person who is most likely to get a potential "oh noes!" from me is Wisniewski. By all accounts he’s taking A.Q.’s role over nicely and was even projected by Steele to be Penn State’s second All-Conference center in two years. His loss means we not only lose large amounts of all-important "meshing power", but also that the team has to put in another green lineman.
My second answer isn't nearly as dramatic in my mind, but I think Royster is deceivingly important. Green has wheel, and there is more depth after that, but we saw in the Rose Bowl that maybe Green isn't ready to be an every-down back. Not that he couldn't become one in 2009, but Royster's patience at the line make grinding out the ground game easy and productive, and I'd worry that if we lost those solid 3 or 4 yards on first down the offense wouldn't be able to properly play catch-up.
Sean Lee and Jack Crawford. Lee for obvious reasons -- not only is he the spiritual leader on defense, but he's the best player on the field if he's completely healthy. No offense to Josh Hull, but he's about six notches below Sean Lee on the White Penn State Linebacker Of Death scale. Crawford's situation is a bit trickier. He hasn't accomplished much of anything so far in his Penn State career, but is being relied upon to be our very best defensive end in 2009. This should be worrisome to any Penn State fan. And if we happen to lose him, then what?
Mike Says...
I have to go with Sean Lee as my No. 2 guy behind Clark. He's the senior leader on defense. If he goes down that's a huge blow to the entire team. And as RUTS points out, his replacement is Josh Hull who's good, but not on an All American level like Lee is. But the emotional aspect of losing Sean would be devastating to the defense.
Wisniewski is another good pick, but I'm going to take a slightly different angle and say A.J. Wallace. We're replacing all four starters in the secondary, and only Wallace and Astorino have any experience to speak of. If Astorino goes down I'm confident with the depth at safety we can find someone to plug in there, but if Wallace goes down we may be asking a true freshman like Stephen Morris or Darrell Givens to become every down players. Frankly that scares me.
Outside: Penn State has their share of star power this year, but we have some major holes to fill. Which player from another Big Ten team would you most like to pluck away for our roster?
Kevin Says...
I know the secondary could use improvement, but I have to go with Illinois’ Arrelious Benn here. The guy makes Williams’ awful throws look good, and when the quarterback is in a bind a simple jump ball to Benn is always an option.
This isn’t to say I’m convinced our wide receivers are going to be as clueless as some are suggesting. Yes, we are starting mostly fresh, but it also seems one of the easier positions to pick up (if 2005 is any indication, anyway). Still, Benn would be an incredible #1 option for a team that doesn’t really have one right now.
RUTS Says...
Benn from Illinois is an excellent choice, but I'll take Iowa's left tackle, Bryan Bulaga. We all know that keeping Daryll Clark upright and healthy is Priority #1 this season, so poaching the best LT in the league seems like a pretty good idea. Benn is electrifying, but Penn State has a few other guys who can be a vertical passing threat (Moye, Powell). We've heard good things about rising PSU LT DeOnt'tae Pannell, but I'd rather have the sure thing, thank you.
Mike Says...
Interesting that you guys both went with the offensive side of the ball. I'm actually not too worried there. I think the offensive line and wide receivers will be adequate enough when combined with Clark and Royster that the offense should be serviceable at a minimum.
It's the defensive side that scares me the most. We all saw how deficient the secondary was against USC, and now we have very little experience coming back. And not only are we inexperienced, I think we're thin at cornerback. So I would look for an experienced lockdown cornerback to sure up the secondary. My first pick would be Chimdi Chekwa from Ohio State who started nearly every game last year for the Buckeyes. His stats weren't that impressive with only one interception and 28 tackles, but that tells me teams don't like to throw in his direction.
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But which two other players are the most indispensable to this team?
Wiz and Royster
Penn State has their share of star power this year, but we have some major holes to fill. Which player from another Big Ten team would you most like to pluck away for our roster?
I’ll go with Terrelle Pryor. Jeremy Boone is good, but if Pryor punts as well as he “passes” (such great hangtime from his “passes”), then we would never have to worry about field position.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 17, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That shouldn't say Royster
Sean Lee.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 17, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those arm punts..
sure would be nice on special teams.
And apparently Pryor is sooo OMG FASTZ that he could actually run down field and tackle whoever it is that would be attempting to return is arm punt.
"The only cohesive passing game in the whole damn conference was in Happy Valley." -Rivalry Esq.
by BSmith717 on Jul 17, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a given
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 17, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody knows yet.
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by Run Up The Score on Jul 17, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
With his history of hamstring problems and the depth at corner it seems like too much of a risk.
We have plenty of young burners to put back there like Chaz Powell and Stephfon Green. I would also like to see Devon Smith or The Drake get a shot.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Jul 17, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing Wallace would be a natural fit for is punt returns
The coaches like to have a defensive guy back there even if he isn’t the best returner available(prior to DWill). So he would be a good fit because of his skills on both sides of the ball.
Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good.
by psu on Jul 17, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides
The only regulation number which will fit Devon Smith is #1.
I don’t think the NCAA would approve of the binary code of returners Wallace and Smith on the field together.
Of course I'm home. I'm always home. I'm uncool.
by WestPointLion on Jul 17, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see Powell
get the first shot @ returning.
He has good size and speed / seems pretty physical; his vision seems fine too. I like all of this.
It also seems that he really wants to be the man.
DWill always scarred me with his studder-step/falling over his own feet in the past. I think Powell will be a fantastic talent this year…
"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."
by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 20, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that Chaz is #2
I’m probably going to mistakenly call him DWill about five times before I get used to not having Derrick on the field. Letting go is so hard to do… :(
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 20, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure
that most / if not all the media outlets/ announcers during the 1st few games this year will be drawing comparisons to D Wheels “big shoes to fill”…I just think Powell’s speed and talents will be utilized and called upon often…to the point where PSU fans will WANT him to get the ball in his hands!
"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."
by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 20, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did well last year for the most part as I remember
I was going to ask what year he is in, but thanks to my handy, and totally awesome, “We Are Penn State” mag right next to me on my desk, I found out he’s a soph, so we have plenty of time to turn him into the DWill threat, if he’s not already, on kick returns.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 20, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think losing anybody on that offensive line would be a huge. Although Royster’s vision and patience make him extremely valuable, I’m pretty confident in that stable of running backs.
And I have to agree with Mike. Although the secondary has the potential to be a bit more athletic, it’s lacking on experience and isn’t very deep on the edges. But poaching a lock-down corner may not even be the answer. As long as they’re dropping three and playing 10-15 yards off, having a lock-down CB is almost irrelevant. I’d almost prefer a rangy, ball-hawking safety to make up for some of the experience on the edges. Maybe a guy like Kurt Coleman.
by Spats on Jul 17, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd go with
1) clark-i do not believe newsome is ready to step in.
2) i agree with mike on wallace. we are thin at secondary, and losing a cb with experience will hurt more than another position without depth issues.
i wouldn’t go with lee. when lee went down, we had hull to fill in, albeit only marginally. further, we still have navarro and mauti to pick up the slack. i’m not trying to take lee down a peg, it’s just that i don’t see depth as an issue at this position.
i would take arrelious benn on this team any day of the week and twice on sunday. if he gets an accurate qb, any secondary is shredded.
I looked at Ohrnberger in the fourth quarter and he looked back at me. And we said, 'We're not losing this game"
by psudrozz on Jul 17, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to pick nits...
…but Clark was a given ‘No. 1 worst loss’ in the position of the first issue.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!
by leeharvey418 on Jul 17, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice catch
a.d.d. got the best of me again…
switching #1 clark to:
schuler-bear with me here. quarless hasn’t been consistant (in the good way) enough as a receiver, and completely whiffed on blocks these past few years. the OL is going through transition, and the more stable experience we have on the line in either capacity will go a long way.
can’t say crawford because there is not enough study material on him yet at the DE spot.
I looked at Ohrnberger in the fourth quarter and he looked back at me. And we said, 'We're not losing this game"
by psudrozz on Jul 17, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed with Benn
We kill two birds with one stone. Benn is the number one talent on the team that most threatens our biggest liability (DB), plus he’s a proven commodity at a position that is inexperienced (WR). It would make Illinois a lot less threatening, and make PSU look a lot more dangerous.
by Cairo on Jul 17, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My picks
1) Wiz and Crawford- we were fine without Lee at LB last year because of the pass rush. Yes, yes we would be better with him, but we are just so loaded with talent there. Not any more worried about the DBs than last year as long as we replace a pass rushing force. Gotta be Crawford.
2)Flip a coin between Bulaga and Brandon Graham. Since I feel great about the DTs and we could get away on pass rush downs playing some of that great LB talent, give a slight edge to Bulaga.
by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 17, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What if it was a trade?
Imagine if one NFL-style fair market trade was allowed in the NCAA offseason. Who would you trade for Benn? Sean Lee? PSU does have some depth at LB, and the Ilinois LB corps isn’t highly regarded. Royster? Illinois would love to have a proven upperclassman at RB, and the PSU RB corps is one of the best in years.
by Cairo on Jul 17, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would sooner let hawks eat my arms than trade Sean Lee.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 17, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
28 tackles for Chekwa
Now is that on the JL scale? I mean… he could’ve had 4 tackles last year for all we know.
by AdamShell on Jul 17, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I noticed all but one of his tackles were solo tackles. Such is life out on the island.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Jul 17, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
All but two of his tackles. Not one.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Jul 17, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which means he's basically a shut-down corner.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09
by kmblue on Jul 17, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is
JL? Is that some weird reference to LN?
by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 17, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pile Jumper aka
Son of Hawk aka Laura aka aka Best OSU LB eva aka James Laurinaitis.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Jul 17, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laura Nitis
Got it, her nickname is James? Weird.
by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 17, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
can't we put his name
in the QB14 category?
i kind of get the blood fevers when i read that name.
I looked at Ohrnberger in the fourth quarter and he looked back at me. And we said, 'We're not losing this game"
by psudrozz on Jul 17, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The blood fevers?…are you a Southern belle?
Penn Staters belong at Penn State. The problem with a lot of kids is they just don’t know they are Penn Staters yet. -jesse. @ BSD
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Jul 17, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Southern belle sounds hot
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 17, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not as hot as when Sherman rolled through
said Southern Belle’s homeland.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Jul 17, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that both of these replies happened in three minutes time is just another reason why I love this place.
Penn Staters belong at Penn State. The problem with a lot of kids is they just don’t know they are Penn Staters yet. -jesse. @ BSD
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Jul 17, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
something my grandmom
says when she gets angry. usually before she throws something.
she’s from the south in that she’s from southern poland.
I looked at Ohrnberger in the fourth quarter and he looked back at me. And we said, 'We're not losing this game"
by psudrozz on Jul 17, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think 'the vapors' is the proper Southern term,
but what the hell do I know? I’m a 90% Pennsylvania Dutch Damn Yankee, so consider the source.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jul 17, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So at least you know what REAL chicken pot pie is
For the record, folks, PA Dutch chicken pot pie has NO CRUST!
Also, anyone who calls it chicken and dumplings will have their balls vaporized by the mighty Zug.
That is all.
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Jul 17, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everytime I read one of your comments I hear this song.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 17, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if people actually think I am Amish
Especially since, ya know, Amish peeps aren’t even allowed to have electricity.
I’m just representing the 717 as best as I can. Besides, my tailgates ROCK. People love to feed the horse (Berks) hot dogs and funnell beers on top of the buggy.
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Jul 17, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll rep the 717 to the death.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Jul 18, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're too damn country in the 717
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 18, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Sir.
I’d rather be too damn country WITH Woopie Pies than be not too country at all and without Woopie Pies.
They are a god send.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Jul 18, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Souse > everything else
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 18, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
717
never sleeps son
"Victory without honor is an unseasoned dish. It might fill you up, but it won't taste good" - Joe Paterno
by MilroyBoozer on Jul 19, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about
the amish kid caught with porn
by PaJoe on Jul 17, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
I prefer this commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv157ZIInUk
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 17, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did they get rid of those?
The guy always made me laugh.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 18, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VREPESNTING DEUTSCHLAND
JA!
Shit, I miss that guy.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 18, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that song
It might actually be my favorite Weird Al song ever
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 18, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 18, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was always partial to "Eat It"
Parody of MJ’s (RIP) “Beat It”
by PaJoe on Jul 18, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wisnewski
Is a stud… I never really got to know him much, but I had a speech class with him last year and I’ll tell you what— if he prepares for his football games with as much attention as he prepared for his speeches, I think he’ll be great in his role this year.
by AdamShell on Jul 17, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Butler => Clark => Wiz
As the player voice of the Penn State Football Story?
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!
by leeharvey418 on Jul 17, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved Butler on those segments.
I have seen a few interviews with him since being drafted and works the interview very well. I could definitly see him in the broadcasting career later in life, although I believe he studied Criminal Justice.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Jul 17, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CAS 100?
I hated that class, and I got an A in it. But when you’re a person who gets anxious a lot, having to speak in front of a class, even when they don’t give a shit what you’re saying, is horrible.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 17, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was CAS 213
Persuasive Speaking… He’s in my major… we have a class together next semester too. I’ll tell him to check on this site as long as everyone has nice things to say about him.
by AdamShell on Jul 17, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young Wizniewski will be fine.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 17, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Ten Player I most want on PSU
Forget Benn, Bulaga and anyone on the defensive side of the ball. It seems pretty obvious to me that the position I am most freaked out about for the 2009 season isn’t offensive or defensive line or the secondary – it’s placekicker. Losing Kevin Kelly is freaking huge.
If you ask me the player I would most want to pluck away from another Big 10 team is kicker Brett Swenson from Michigan State. How confident is everyone here in Collin Wagner or even in Anthony Fera if he somehow beats him out with the game on the line?
by catesinator on Jul 17, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They've got the whole summer
and the first four cupcakes to be ready, I’m not terribly nervous about them.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 17, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*Two pennies*
Two most indispensable behind Clark – Wiz and Odrick. Most of the other positions have someone who, I feel, can step in and be about as effective as the starter. (Lee is just barely outside of this list.) With A.J. Wallace, I’ve never been overly impressed and I’m not sure if I would immediately notice if he was out of the line-up. I think losing either Wiz or Odrick is not only a large loss of talent and experience, but a good amount of leadership as well with their respective groups.
Not sure about the replacement yet. For now, it’s Zoltan Mesko. Seriously – how we could we lose with both His Zugness and the Space Emperor (of Space!) on our team?
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
by IcersGuy on Jul 17, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Odrick
I understand that our DT are deep, but everything I’ve seen on the field tells me that he’s a step ahead of everyone else. I am not comfortable counting on Crawford or Hayes to provide the push on the edge, so it will have to come up the middle. Also, with a suspect secondary, his push is even more important.
I might consider him almost as important as DC17.
by InScoresOfOtherGames on Jul 17, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice article
But losing Royster is not that huge IMO, the kid is a stud but with Green, Beechum, and Carter we would be fine.
Losing Lee or AJ Wallace would kill PSU.
AJ is going to have a stud year and shut down Benn…mark my words
by SweepTheLeg on Jul 18, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AJ having a stud year?
SO he is retired from football and just impregnating women to breed future PSU football players? Is that how we have so many family legacies at PSU?
But yeah, if he sucks, we are pretty much boned against any resemblance of a passing attack.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Jul 18, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
AJ is going to have a stud year and shut down Benn…mark my words
If there’s one thing I respect its incredibly ballsy predictions.
(How would any corner shut him down anyway? Don’t we run zone?)
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 18, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lead pipe to the knee. Shuts him down like nothing else.
Penn Staters belong at Penn State. The problem with a lot of kids is they just don’t know they are Penn Staters yet. -jesse. @ BSD
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Jul 18, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear these guys are out of work

If not, a teabag sounds like it might work.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Jul 21, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orange Juice...
that would be a good “rag” to hang off the stands for this years game!
Pic of ’The Ripper / Odrick and the General squeezing “juice” in the backfiled…juice instead of blood coming-out!
"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."
by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 20, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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