Feelings on Rob Bolden
by RNF18 on Jul 24, 2009 10:00 AM EDT
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PrintI think that I'm a good judge of talent when it comes to football. I've played or coached football my whole life. I've analyzed film and evaluated mostly offensive skill positions. When Daryll Clark was being recruited out of Ursuline before he was a commit to PSU and before he went to Kiski I watched his film and I thought that he was something really special, a hidden gem. He had nice footwork, he was a passer first but he knew when to tuck and run, and he viewed the entire field and delivered a nice ball. Okay, now that I'm done blowing my own horn, I'd like to say that I see those same qualities in Rob Bolden. I think that he'll be the best of the 3 QBs when he arrives on campus. If any of you have seen the reports coming out of the Elite 11 this week, he's been blowing up! I hope that he does everything he can to digest the playbook and get ready to be the QB at PSU because he's special and I think he could be our starter for a few years if he comes in mentally prepared for college football. I only wish his school allowed its students to graduate early so he could be here for the Spring.
None of this is meant to slight PJ or Newsome. Anyway, does anyone else have an opinion on Bolden or who you think is the best of the 3 future QBs?
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What do I know?
I thought Matt Nardolillo was gonna be a great one.
I like Paul Jones
I just wish he would “John” to his name so the student section could make “JPJ has not begun to fight!” signs.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions
I thought that was going to be a Led Zeppelin post
I was mistaken, but +1 for student signs
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Impossible to know right now
But Newsome is reportedly doing quite well, Bolden looks like the real deal out at Elite 11, and we’re all pretty sure that PJ’s going to be very good.
Not a bad problem to have!
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Order your copy of "We Are Penn State", like, now. One team, 128 pages.
by Run Up The Score on Jul 24, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions
Not a bad problem to have!
I’d take it over the opposite any day.
Penn Staters belong at Penn State. The problem with a lot of kids is they just don’t know they are Penn Staters yet. -jesse. @ BSD
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Jul 24, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, but...
One of them is going to transfer!
The sky is falling!
I can’t find my pants!
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!
by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I am thinking the same; at least for the starting spot next fall.
KN has some REAL good skill sets. I do not think this is arguable .
He has very good size, a strong arm, and some good legs on him.
Enrolling early this year and having DC mentor him / getting all/majority of the #2 snaps in practice IS A HUGE JUMP – not to mention confidence builder. As talented as PJ & RB are, KN will be the one under center starting the season in 2010. Now, giving the benefit of the doubt to those 2 younger guys; I think the 2011 spring practices could very well be wide open. Yes – they are THAT good; and now that PSU has recruited the QB position with these highly skilled athletes – we have “a good problem.” Quite frankly, a coaches dream…
Aside:
> I have heard that KN is quite the personality / a happy dude; so much so that SOA is giving him starring lessons and helping him carve-out his own game face to toughen-up his countenance…so, you see; he has that going for him as well…
"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."
by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 24, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Imaginary conversation from December, 2008
A: “Man, Kevin Newsome would be great if he commits to Penn State.”
B: “Yeah, but he’s gonna have a tough time in his sophmore year when he has to compete against Robert Bolden and Paul Jones.”
A: “Say what?”
B: “Well, I mean they’re both really talented QBs and could give Newsome a run for his money”
A: “WTF are you on, man? There’s no friggen way we’re gonna be able to get either of them, we’d be lucky just to have Newsome show interest in us.”
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 24, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Imaginary conversation from December, 2007
A: “Penn State will go to the Rose Bowl next year!”
B: “Jay sucks. We can’t be friends anymore. Happy Jack bastard.”
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't have one
Just lurked. I got tired of reading all the bullshit, googled around for “penn state blog” and found BSD.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No that's not right
I had read BSD for a few months before (stopped reading Pennlive forums around August) but finally registered because I thought Daryll Clark was getting a bad rap without even playing a game.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
So you weren't calling
everyone “ham & eggers” while claiming to live in Rio?
That wasn’t you?
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
But I do remember that guy
RioPSU, right?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
PSUinRIO (I think)
Married to a former USC Song Girl… Houses on at least three continents… the whole bit.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!
by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss joeno
That guy was incredible.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
When I first started reading PennLive
‘joeno’ had already been banned, and the doucheabag du jour was Sportexpert. It took me about fifteen minutes before I put up a post asking him how living in mom’s basement was working out for him. Somebody else chimed in with a story about him having been found with a dead deer in his bathtub.
Good times.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!
by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
All the same dude...
Then there’s Chembie – I fear even typing his name.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
RPG!
Ah yes, Chembie… a role model for faecophiles everywhere.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!
by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I have neither the
time nor imagination to cultivate alternative personalities for message board posting. Joeno and several others on there are legends in their own minds.
I go back and lurk from time to time and it has the same cast of nare-do-wells as 4 years ago.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Awesome
A big +1 for Happy Jack Bastard. I really can’t wait for an opportunity to use that one.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Getting #2 snaps
Is huge. Especially on this team. Who is he throwing to? Moye? Brackett? Justin Brown? Devon Smith? Drake?
Sure beats throwing to Brendon Perretta every day.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
'Zactly
- and it should be stated, think about the defense he has / will be continually going against in practice this year…their speed and push at the line alone he has already seen…
Most #2’s are not getting exposure such as this…not to mention @ 18yr old freshmen!
He is going to have a great feel of the game speed…that is H U G E too!
"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."
by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 24, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You can already begin to feel him finding his mold here
Remember the reports out of Spring practice that he was struggling? Missing passes, trouble adjusting, stuff like that? Then (and obviously not the best judge of performance in a real game) to come out in the BW game in front of 70+K people and perform and look extremely solid (with Jack Crawford on your ass no less, and you’re not wearing a red jersey!). And you can’t go wrong with DC17 as your mentor, whose mentor was MRob.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
This mentor system seems to work.
But it’ll probably end with Newsome seeing as he’s only a year older than our next two, and will have to compete against them.
by PSUisMyHeart on Jul 24, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless he dominates and earns the starting role
leaving the two understudies to battle for second
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest with you, I’ve watched a lot of Bolden (seen 8ish St. Mary’s games the past couple years), and while he has pretty good physical tools, his mental grasp of the game and his intangibles have never impressed me one bit. If those things can be coached into him, great, but as of now, I think he’s a decent, but not great, prospect.
Excellent input
That’s what I was looking for, somebody who’s seen more than just the highlights and can add a different perspective.
Thanks for the input
So many of these kids are warriors on the combine circuits, but put them in a real game and they don’t know what to do. So much of high school football is just putting the ball in the hands of your best athlete and let him beat the other team with his superior athletic ability.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
as JayPa likes to say about hunting dogs
‘Until you can get them out there in the field and shoot the gun, you don’t know how they’re going to react.’ Sometimes, you take the dog out and you shoot the gun and the dog comes back and hides behind you. Sometimes you shoot the gun and the dog goes off and chases the rabbit.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 24, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Coming soon to a forum near you...
IT’S JAYS FAULT THAT WE DIDNT GET PRYOR! PRYOR HATES REDNECKS AND THATS WHAT JAY IS1!! THAT SHIT ONLY WORKS IN THE SEC!!!
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be ashamed if PSU was 1/1,000,000th as redneck as an SEC school
We may be a little country, but we’re not sitting on fences with a piece of grass in our mouth playing banjo wearing cut off overalls with no t-shirt underneath.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You wouldn’t be complaining if it was a woman wearing cut off overalls with no t-shirt underneath…
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
He if he keeps blowing up at camps
he very well could be become a five star recruit, that would make things interesting.
by GoingDeep on Jul 24, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions
Because...
most people and sport pundits are star gazers and it would be interesting to see how people react to having a non-USC or zOMG SEC school having two 5-Star QB recruits.
by GoingDeep on Jul 24, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah
If they up Bolden to a 5 star they’ll make sure to downgrade PJ to a 4star to save the universe.
by PSUisMyHeart on Jul 24, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a tough call, but I think he may have the most physical talent as a passer of the whole bunch. At the elite 11 he won the awards for the ‘best arm’ and the ‘quickest release’, that’s saying a lot right there. With the talent we have at receiver coming in we need a QB who can do 3-step drops and get the ball out and into the hands of a receiver as soon as possible. Something tells me that with all that talent in WR we’re going to want to get them the ball as often as possible and run a lot of quick timed routes.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
"He won the award for...quickest release"
/That’s what she said.
Damn it!
I was so close!
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Zing!
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jul 24, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
they call me the marathon man
and I ain’t much for running.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 24, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it usually depends on the course
Some courses are wide open and wet and you can run all day. Those are my favorite marathons, they’re always filled with many peaks and valleys! :-)
I hate the dry, arid desert courses
with prickly cactus needles everywhere
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 24, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't like running
i prefer stationary bikes, or ellipticals.
too much stress on my achy, 21-year-old knees.
"Welcome to Tangares base. You’re just in time for the dance party. I’ve arranged a dancing partner for you. DANCE TO THE DEATH!" -Time Crisis
Wait, what?
This metaphor may have just taken an unexpected and very unfortunate turn.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!
by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i couldn't resist the urge to
kill the joke.
please forgive me.
i’m not usually such a debbie downer.
but to be honest, as much as i love a long steady workout, sometimes you need to get things going with a few hard sprints.
(better?)
"Welcome to Tangares base. You’re just in time for the dance party. I’ve arranged a dancing partner for you. DANCE TO THE DEATH!" -Time Crisis
Wax off, then. ;-)
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jul 24, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
...aaaaand were right back into the joke!
Thanks Pete!
by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Given a choice, I would prefer a
tighter more athletic course, however I’ve been known to appreciate a turn on a more curvy run. As with all excercise stretching is cucial.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
How does 2011 and beyond pan out?
Let’s call Newsome “QB1” and let’s call PJ and Bolden “QB2a” and “QB2b” and assume that each is as talented as all the reports claim they are.
2010 – Since Newsome has been tutored by DC17 and will have one year under his belt, giving him the edge in any race, let’s say he is the QB in 2010. And since DC will be graduating, we will need a backup not named McGloin. Who is it? Does either QB2a or QB2b redshirt? And which one?
2011 – The job will be presumed Newsome’s, I imagine, unless he shits the bed the whole season. In that case, will the non-redshirted backup be inserted into the presumed starting role?
2012 – Assuming Newsome doesn’t throw for Max Hall numbers, and returns for his senior season, and re-supposing the non-shitting of the bed, the job by this point is Newsome’s only. Now the non-redshirted backup from 2010 should be solidly planted as his backup, but that QB will have “wasted” three years as Newsome’s backup. The redshirted freshman from 2010 will have two years left. What do you do?
If the above sounded confusing, imagine this: Newsome is a star, and starts for three years after DC17. Bolden beats PJ for the backup role in 2010. Seeing that Bolden is better, do we redshirt him in 2010, giving him 2 years of eligibility when Newsome leaves? And then does PJ transfer? Are we assuming as definitive fact that either QB2a or QB2b will transfer at some point? Just something to ponder as we look at the next 4 years of PSU quarterbacking…either way, we’re in a win-win situation, I think.
Graham Zug
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Most likely
one of the 3 has an injury at some point.
by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 24, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it possible
That since all of these guys are gifted athletes that one could end up being moved to a different position in the above scenario. If 3 of your top athletes are QBs why not get them on the field (think Mrob as precedent). Just a thought.
Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good.
Sure, it is a possibility
This is Penn State, there is plenty of precident…most noteworthy in your reference.
"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."
by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 25, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
3 great QBs
I really like Newsome, he played really well in the spring game, and that says a lot. So I’ll put Newsome at the top of the three. Out of Jones and Bolden, I like Bolden better. Both are really great, but I really like Bolden’s throwing motion and release and he has good accuracy on his throws. Plus he’s quick on his feet. Jones definitely has a stronger arm but out of the two, I’m leaning towards Bolden. The only way to really tell who is better is to have them run with the same offense against the same defense, and we’ll get that next year
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