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Inside-Outside is Sick of The Tebow

It's Friday, so we're back with another edition of Inside:Outside. This week we discuss all of the Penn State preseason hype. Is it justified? Then we look ahead to next week's Big Ten Media Days with the questions we would ask if we were there.

Inside:  Okay, let's be honest.  Penn State is replacing three offensive line starters, moving another guy from guard to center, and replacing three starting wide receivers.  The secondary is all new, and the depth at defensive end is practically non-existent.  Why are so many people automatically assuming that the Nittany Lions will be a top-ten team in 2009?

RUTS Says...There are really two possibilities here -- either it's assumed that the players we're plugging into these spots are comparable or better than last year's, or the Lions are somehow being rewarded for the combination of their confectionery schedule, the conference's awful reputation, and the dearth of acknowledged, legitimate Big Ten championship contenders. 

The former possibility is counterintuitive at best (if they were better players, where were they last year?).  I don't think anybody legitimately expects the wide receivers to be better than the trio of Norwood, Williams, and Butler.  That's just stupid.  A.Q. Shipley was the best center in the nation, Rich Ohrnberger was drafted in the fourth round by New England, and Gerald Cadogan was an excellent left tackle who is hoping to catch on with the Carolina Panthers.  Do you really think the offensive line will be better this season? 

Even the secondary, tenderized beyond recognition during and after the Rose Bowl, doesn't look to be a candidate for addition by subtraction.  A.J. Wallace has been an enigma throughout his Penn State career, and especially since his switch to defense.  He was decisively beaten out by Lydell Sargeant last year.  Now he's supposed to be our #1 cornerback?

So it's gotta be the schedule, right?  Anyone care to talk me down on this?  I keep reading predictions for 12-0, 11-1, or 10-2, and I'm just not seeing it from this group of players.  Not yet, at least.

Star-divide

Mike Says...A big part of it is the laziness of the Media. "Hey, Penn State went to the Rose Bowl last year. Daryll Clark is coming back. They'll be a top ten team!"

But Penn State does have a lot going for them. Besides returning Clark, they also return Royster, Wisniewski, Odrick, and Bowman who all earned All-Big Ten honors last year. Plus Sean Lee is coming back, and he earned All-Big Ten honors in 2007. No other team can claim that much proven star power at this point. And really, when you step back and look at the Big Ten, what other team besides Ohio State looks like they have potential to dominate the league?

Kevin Says...Basically you need to look at (1) who is going to be taking over for the departed, and (2) what teams on the schedule will be able to take advantage of weaknesses.
 
The o-line loses a lot of players but Steele still has three of the current guys on his list of the Big Ten’s best.  Clark, Royster and Green all return, obviously, so the offensive attack should be less intimidating but still capable.
 
The defensive line was incredibly deep last year and I think that helps in 2009.  One or two injuries could devastate the unit, but with perhaps the best set of LBs in the nation backing them up I don’t worry about being run all over, which is how you die in the Big Ten (anecdotal evidence but still: the bottom five teams in the conference finished 10th, 6th, 11th, 9th and 8th in rushing defense, going last to seventh).
 
I don’t anticipate having any debilitating voids to fill other than receiver and secondary, but with the running game I don’t worry so much about being killed on offense and no one in the conference has proven yet that they are capable of torching even a mediocre set of corners and safeties.
 
People will argue that I’m overlooking the losses on the o-line, which is fair, but you can never tell how good an o-line is going to be anyway.  Ohio State’s completely let them down last year despite returning what I think was the entire unit, and Penn State ended up with the best center in the nation last year even though the kid was playing (or, not playing) d-line the first two years of his career at Penn State. 
 
It’s obviously the million-dollar question, but having three extremely capable players and two highly recruited ones isn’t a bad place to start when your first three games are glorified practices.

Outside:  At SEC Media Days, Tim Tebow said he was a virgin and saving himself for marriage (a hilarious question asked by Tennessee blogger and author Clay Travis).  What probing, personal question would you ask at Big Ten Media Day?

RUTS Says... I'd ask Mark Dantonio if he's recovered from the hypothermia that obviously set in toward the end of last year's Michigan State v. Penn State game.  It's the only possible explanation for him calling two consecutive timeouts with nine seconds remaining in a 49-18 blowout, other than being an enormously stubborn and grumpy dicktard.

Mike Says...The SEC media days are a circus. I was expecting a big push on their part for a college football playoff system or some big announcement on an all new SEC Network or something. Instead the big question of the week is "Who didn't vote for The Chosen One?" Thank God we got that sorted out though.

Seeing all of these bloggers getting press passes to the Big Ten Media Day kind of makes me kick myself for not thinking about flying to Chicago next week. I'd love to run into JoePa kicking back a bourbon in the hotel bar and strike up a conversation. But if I had access here are some questions I would ask.

To Jim Tressel: You have struggled in big games against southern teams the last few years. This year you're lagging behind Penn State and Michigan in recruiting. More and more Big Ten teams are putting together SEC-like offenses that have given you fits. Do you feel like your grip on the Big Ten might be slipping a little bit?

To Brett Bielema: Don't you kind of regret that intentional offsides kickoff stunt you pulled on JoePa a few years ago? I mean, he's completely kicked your ass 86-14 in the two games since then.

To Rich Rodriguez: Penn State will be pretty tough for your young squad this year. Then they rotate off the schedule in 2010 and 2011. Do you think you'll be around to get another shot at beating Paterno in 2012?

Kevin Says...I would try to get Tim Brewster to spill the beans on any type of punctuation clinic he might have been checked into during his younger days.  Dude has serious exclamation issues and was my pick for the John L. Smith Award this year.

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1) Why exactly did Travis feel the need to ask Tebow about his virginity? Trying to get on the map?

2) To Ron Zook: “Why are you hitting on me? Please walk away.”

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

hmm....

Perhaps he was looking for a date?

by smashtheguitar on Jul 24, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

To anyone:

Have you stopped beating your wife?

by WorldBFat on Jul 24, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

That's a leading question

because it presupposes an answer stated in the question. Unless you are asking it during cross-examination or to a hostile witness, any objection will be sustained.

Sorry, I haven’t posted in about 10 days because I’ve been cramming for the bar exam and this comment just made me scream LEADING QUESTION! I’ll return to my nerddom and allow you to continue your conversations…

by Jeff Junstrom on Jul 24, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey bud

I am also doing by prep, and I checked that shit at the door.

by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 24, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone has to be able to step in

and represent you on your libel claims. Once Tebow/The Vest/DickRod get wind of all the bad things being said, you’ll be glad you have lawyers on your side that will BARELY charge you for representation.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jul 24, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Tebow

I lurk this board a lot but why does anybody care who Steve Spurrier voted for? What if he really didn’t think Tebow was the best quarterback? Isn’t that his opinion? Why is it a top story in ESPN?

by CurrentStudent on Jul 24, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Blasphemer!

How dare you besmirch the name of Tebow!

After the press conference where he was asked about being a virgin, Tebow went down to the river and pulled out a bag of kittens that Spurrier had drowned… he laid hands on the kittens and brought them back to life, then went and handed them out at an orphanage.

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so sick of this story

About 90% of todays Sports Center is dedicated to talking about how anyone could possibly have the nerve call anybody except for the the almighty Tebow the greatest QB in the SEC. Somebody from Al Queda must of snuck in and replaced Spurrier’s ballot. This is clearly the most heinous thing anybody has done in quite some time.

by Brett Brown on Jul 24, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sign of things to come

Imagine what it’s going to be like when the Heisman voting time comes. Expect a similar witch hunt to figure out who would possible vote for anyone other than Tebow.

by BSD on Jul 24, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even worse

They’re already starting to talk about Tebow being “the greatest QB in college football history”, even before this season starts, it’s already assumed they’ll win a third MNC and he’ll win the heisman again.

I am so sick of this guy, it’s ridiculous.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m by no means a Florida fan, in fact the ESS EEE CEE needs to shut their mouths, but I cannot deny Tebow’s talent. He’s made his mark on college football and good for him, but God forbid that a rival school’s coach decided that he may not have been the best football player. This should not be a top story on ESPN, it should be nothing more than a footnote on the ESS EE CEEE blog on ESPN.com

by CurrentStudent on Jul 24, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree

I didn’t mean to imply you were a UF fan if I did (that would be a huge insult btw). I’m equally as sick about everyone drooling over him in the media. So much so, that I can’t stand to acknowledge his successes because I developed a level of hatred.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t mean to imply that you were implying that I was a UF fan. He’s a great player, yes, but the SECSPN, needs to find a new story. Where’s Brett Favre when you need him?

by CurrentStudent on Jul 24, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

SportsCenter during lunch

seemed to be alternating with different angles of the Favre wavering story and the Tebow diss story

by The JuggerNitt on Jul 24, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favre and tebow...

…should hold hands and jump off a high bridge. But then espn would have to show highlights or something.

--
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by Run Up The Score on Jul 25, 2009 11:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I live in Florida

And Tebow really is some sort of sacred being down here. Making fun of Tebow in Florida is like telling a Hindu that you love cheeseburgers.

by The Mess on Jul 24, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard

recently that he stabbed a hooker, forget where though.

by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 24, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably right in the

she-male parts.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Jul 24, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leeharvey knocked that

one out of the park.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Jul 24, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did what?

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I quote...

Pfft… He’ll be back up and ready to play in two days… Three, tops.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Jul 24, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah...

Thank you. I didn’t know I had it in me…

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

an easy one

To Terrell Pryor: Darryl Clark has been given a bit of grief over at ESPN as pundits believe he may be getting too large for the position. He weighs 240 pounds while you weigh 238.

Does that 238 include all of your booster money and car keys? If so, what would you weigh if the NCAA could ever penetrate the protective charms that Tressel puts around Columbus?

by Cairo on Jul 24, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

lol +1 on that one

made people look at me funny in the food court here.

and before rambler -1’s me for not hitting rec, it apparently isn’t an option on mobile commenting.

by The JuggerNitt on Jul 24, 2009 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

-1 for mobile commenting

Real BSDers stay at the PC, 24/7.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i second that motion

Bleeding blue and white and black and gold.

by raimman on Jul 25, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

And really

Pryor lost two pounds sitting in that outhouse.

--
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by Run Up The Score on Jul 25, 2009 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

To Jim Tressel

Dude, how lucky were those PSU doucheabags to barely beat you last year?

by speedomike on Jul 24, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

+15

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know...

you’re boned if some psychopath were to actually do what you just suggested…

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know...

…with a few electrodes, anatomically, that might work.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jul 24, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bravo, Mike

Your hypothetical question to DickRod literally had me L’ing OL.

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks

Before anyone else catches it, I made a mistake. Michigan doesn’t rotate off the schedule until 2011 and 2012. Sorry.

by BSD on Jul 24, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

For that matter

Will he get another crack at Joe in 2010?

by BSD on Jul 24, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be interested to see in a poll

of what everyone wants to happen to DickRod and the Wolverines. Do they want him gone? Do they think he’ll buy first class tickets for the scUM program on board the HMS FAILboat, and want him to stay so they continue to be beatable? Is the pleasure of watching scUM suck too good to let go (and most importantly: does this finally start to discredit the history of OMG THE GAME, so that it’s us and tOSU as the dominant rivalry in the BigTen?) Etc, etc. I can’t stand the guy, so I wouldn’t mind seeing him gone, however Michigan sucking isn’t good for the conference image, despite the pleasure I take in watching DickRod run the program into the ground.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm fine with them sucking aboard the HMS Failboat with DickRod as captain

as long as we win all our games, and take care of business, I don’t care how the league looks.

by The JuggerNitt on Jul 24, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or if somehow, theres a power shift (which is already kind of starting) in the B10

tOSU and us are still on top, but we’re seeing the rise in teams like Iowa, Mich St. and sometimes Illinois (even NW and Minny are improving), while one of the old powers in Mich. is fading into Indianaland. Then the B10 might be looked on a little better despite one of the “Big 2” fading.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

RUTS

I think you’re overlooking a third factor. Yes, we take some losses, but we also will have (barely) the best QB, RB, LBs, and interior D-Line in the conference. I feel confident saying we will be much better at LB with Lee/Mauti over Hull/Sales. And an extra year of development should assume improvement at those other spots.

by speedomike on Jul 24, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Our losses

It’s probably the Kool-aid, but I have pretty good faith in our WRs this year. They aren’t going be the Wideout Trio, who had the gifts of having great hands, very shifty, very fast, and able to make big plays, so in that respect you could see it as a drop-off. But these guys aren’t slouches either. Someone had pointed out in a previous post that what we lost in terms of speed and playmaking potential, we make up for in terms of height of players.

The O-line is troubling, but we have a cupcake buffer to figure out what’s going to work best on the line.

The secondary is my biggest fear just based on lack of experience, so I’m hoping our front 7 will be just as dominant as they were last year, especially in pass rushing.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

and who knows, maybe they WILL have the gift of having great hands, being very shifty, very fast, and ability to make big plays

I don’t recall being disappointed in any of them last season (during their limited time). Plus the height thing.

And don’t forget that our O-line will not only have the buffer against the pastries, but also will be able to gel when they practice on a regular basis against the best front 7 they’ll see all year.

Hopefully our secondary isn’t a liability this year. Against most of our opponents it shouldn’t be (unless Zook throws out his Good Juice Pokeball), but who knows what we’ll see in the bowl game.

by The JuggerNitt on Jul 24, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's different now

Last year when Zug or Brackett came in they went up against a linebacker or a nickelback and presented a mismatch for Clark to exploit. Now they’ll get the full attention of the #1 or #2 defensive back. We’ll see if they’re good enough to compete on that level.

by BSD on Jul 24, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, BUT

We have a WR corps that does not have ANY of the celebrity that Butler, JWood, and DWill had last season, so how will they know who our top WR really is (not that we know either at this point)? That was the great thing about our current WRs last season: they were good enough to make plays, but they were underestimated by Dbacks looking for a pass to one of the Trio (see: Zug, Graham tOSU 2008 WIIIIDE open).

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zug and Brackett

I just don’t see the pair (or either) of them as the main threats this coming season. Don’t get me wrong, they’ve both proven they can catch in traffic and take hits, but they’re not going to be the main focus on who to defend from opposing defensive backfields. I think that’s where Powell and Moye will come in.

Of course, never underestimate No. 5 on the periodic table of awesomeness. The element of surprise!

by The Mess on Jul 24, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was sort of another point that I wanted to make

we still have some speedsters like The Trio, who may become our go-to guys. So not only do we add height to their list of positives, we still have some speed in there as well. These guys may not have the flash, but we have a plethora of different style WRs this season, that we didn’t utilize last year because of the epic awesome that was DWill, Norwood, and Butler.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question ( sans my own quick research )

? What IS the 5th element on the Periodic Chart?…it’s a gas right?

"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."

by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 24, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

Boron is most definitely a solid at standard temperature and pressure.

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, Mr. Brainiac - now you're just showing off.

Standard temperature and pressure indeed.

'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'

by Pete the Streak on Jul 24, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boron

Didn’t he make a movie recently?

by St8rBoiInMN on Jul 27, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think there's two things

that could help the new WR corps a positive factor. The first is, obviously, getting some game experience, though it be against weak competition, in the early games. Getting a chance to make some grabs to help build the self-confidence and start building that QB-WR relationship will help these guys shape up as the season develops.

The other would be the fact that we should have a pretty decent run offense, which I think we will even with a “rebuilt” O-line, to help get opposing secondaries playing a little more run D.

What I’d REALLY like to see, to help keep teams a little off-balance and open upth pasing game is to make more use of the RBs and TEs in the passing game. I mean, how pretty were some of those screens to Green last year?

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Jul 24, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

And who knows

maybe hitting the reset button on the secondary is actually a good thing, and they could surprise us (now THAT would be awesome, if a bit far fetched). This also sets them up for the future by getting experience so early in their careers, possibly turning the 2ndary into a strenght (GASP!) down the road.

And I second the lack of disappointment in our current WRs. They made some pretty great catches last year. The MSU Zug tip-toe TD comes to mind. I also don’t recall any of them missing any easy passes (although to be fair they weren’t in enough to be given the chance to drop a pass).

And I totally agree on the O-line. The way Crawford was getting free during the BW game (if that counts for anything) is a definite sign that if they can stop such dominant players in our DL and LB corp, it will be like playing against children in the reg season.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness, I think Zug is underrated

His TD catch in the MSU game last year was an incredible display of body control- He managed to catch the ball while spinning around, and still managed to keep both feet in bounds as he was falling backwards. Maybe it was just a once-in-a-lifetime moment for him, but the optimist in me thinks he’ll be fine as a starter with talent like that.

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I felt kinda dirty

As I was writing that, I thought- ’shouldn’t I be capitalizing all the pronouns that refer to Zug?’

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a buddy who is a manager and works with the WRs

He said he thinks Zug will be all-big ten. I dunno about that, but by all accounts he is good to very good to OMGOVERLORD VAPORIZE good

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by Roland86 on Jul 24, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all honesty, I expect these guys to come in and, if not be at the same level as the DWill/Butler/Norwood three headed monster of death was last year, at least be better than they were during the 2005 season. I mean, think about what we had to compare our receivers to in 2005. Anyone could come off the bench and look good. Now don’t get me wrong, I love all three of those guys and they will always be some of my favorite all time players, but we have bigger/faster guys coming off the bench this season, accompanied by a few who had some playing time, and an experienced quarterback to throw to them. I think it sets them up to have a great year.

by PSUmob on Jul 24, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think our receivers will

surprise people this year.

In 2005 we were coming off a year of Gerald Smith, Mark Rubin and Michael Robinson being our top receivers. Our 2005 WR core was looked down upon so much that voices were yelling for MRob to stay at WR so there would be someone to throw to. What else was in the tank – Sure we had Dwheels coming in, but beyond that we had a walk on converted DB and some skinny local kid who was on the team becasue of his dad.

I see Clark spreading the ball around. Sure , there is no Derrick Williams to draw the #1, but they D could easily be lulled into a false sense of security for the same.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Jul 24, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fearing blasphemy...

I’m not actually convinced our WR corps was all that great last year anyway. Williams, Butler, and Norwood were individually pretty darn good receivers, but the combination of the three of them just wasn’t ideal. They were too similar – I mean, sure, we could tell them apart, but that’s because we’re fans. Butler was a small shifty solid route runner. Norwood was a small shifty solid route runner. Williams was an average-size deep threat.

The other WRs getting more of a workload might actually work out better.

by Bleed Blue 'n White on Jul 24, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't that the point?

Would you rather have three similar (but not really) receivers lining up at the same time anywhere on the field or cookie cutter burner, possession and slot guy? I think you are more limited with the latter.

by The Mess on Jul 25, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, what?

Why in the world would it be better to have three similar receivers? The point of having a variety of WR types is that situationally, you have better options. Norwood/Butler/Williams facing press coverage against a blitz isn’t exactly an ideal situation. Plus goal line, and third down and long, when the area the defense has to cover is limited.

by Bleed Blue 'n White on Jul 26, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goal line

It’s kind of against our nature to throw when we’re on the goal line, but if we had to, I’d rather have the 6’6’’ guy with great hands than the 6’0’’ speed demon guy. No offense to Norwood/Butler/Williams, who were athletic enough to void the height differences. The point is to agree with you: variety is always a good thing, unless you can fill that variety with raw athletic talent like The Three.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 26, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you too

but I think the point The Mess was trying to make is that with three similar receivers, we have more options in the situations where those receivers are useful. If we had a cookie cutter burner, possession, and slot guy as he put it, they’d more likely know which one we were going to depending on our current situation. I can see that point but I agree that we have more variety with different types of receivers.

by PSUisMyHeart on Jul 27, 2009 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Umm

I threw up when I saw this Tebow d-bag on the cover of my si yesterday. Had to throw that issue right in the recycle bin, its even too bad to beat the dog with it.

by RudyWasOffsides on Jul 24, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Easy now

Let’s not call him a D-bag. It’s not Tebow’s fault he’s overrated. By all accounts he seems like a standup kid.

Our problem is with the media who makes him out to walk on water.

by BSD on Jul 24, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike's right

I hate Tim Tebow, but I can’t say it’s anything that he does (besides being Mr. Perfect all the time, which I really can’t stand) that qualifies him as a d-bag. The press guys that drool over him are the real douches, which is what mainly fuels the fire of loathing that I have for the guy.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

we could do a lot worse than Tebow for a NCAAF poster boy. The kid is articulate, hard-working, and stays out of trouble. I mean, the media has to glorify somebody right? We’re watching our favorite sport reach unprecident popularity, we’re looking at a golden age for college football, and I’m happy with the way we’re represented.

Look at the alternatives: Pryor, or Clousen, or some other enormous d-bag could be the poster boy. That would be aweful.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Jul 24, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God for Tebow

without whom we’d have to hear more Pryor hype.

by The JuggerNitt on Jul 24, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

GAH and what IS WITH THE FRIGGEN PRYOR HYPEL!!!@?!?@!

I still can’t think of a single thing he did last year that sets him apart from any other first year starting QB.

by The JuggerNitt on Jul 24, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He touched Mark May...

in ways that Mark had never been touched before.

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or
Look at the alternatives

anyone from the Big 12? *gag*cough*wretch*

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Jul 24, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aren't they now the 'Nintendo 12'?

No disrespect intended.

'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'

by Pete the Streak on Jul 24, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Tebow's defense

I was at the MNC game this year, and Tebow DID dominate the Oklahoma defense down the stretch. And we all know that the Nintendo XII is known for their defense!

by The Mess on Jul 24, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tebow dominating a Big XII defense

Is like being impressed when a child learns 1+1=2 (no offense to parents out there who are proud of this accomplishment of their children’s math skills)

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a shame too

Because tebow is really really good. He’s kind of becoming the derek jeter of college football.

by speedomike on Jul 24, 2009 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If we could

stick to his football accomplishments when watching College Gameday, I probably wouldn’t mind him.

by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 24, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

MOTHER OF GOD

tell me that’s not real.

Tell me that’s not REALLLLLLL!!!!!!

by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 24, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

my favorite part is the disclaimer
“Disclaimer: This site is not affiliated with, nor endorsed by Tim Tebow, nor Florida Gators, nor anyone associated with Tim Tebow and we are a fan site of TimTebowFans.Org”
are they saying they are a fan site OF the fan site? Also, doesnt running a not-for-profit organization about Tim Tebow, by definition, associate all of you with Tim Tebow?

Plus its cool how they just refer to them as “Florida Gators” Makes you wonder if they are not affiliated with the team, or the reptile.

by swiggy04 on Jul 24, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

badmouthing Tebow

made my blockquote go haywire…. The power of Tebow compels me..

by swiggy04 on Jul 24, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have to be ESLs
Tim Tebow Card page. We do not sell Tim Tebow card’s on our site. We are only showing the different Tim Tebow cards that was available on net. We will add more Tim Tebow card when it is available.

by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 24, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Florida

Is not the deep south. It can get hickish up north, but it’s not the same.

by The Mess on Jul 25, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have family in the sarasota region

they seem to enjoy the country-ness. Maybe its just them I dunno.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Jul 26, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get Rambler to write a 'Blockquote Fail' post

See how fast it turns green.

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOOHOO! I GREENLIGHTED IT AGAIN!!!

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Jul 24, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

was hoping you would be the one

I was the second rec on the last one and this one too lol

by PSUisMyHeart on Jul 24, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

was hoping you would be the one

That’s what she said.

Awwwww

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEY!!!!!!!!!

I thought he was saving himself for marriage!

Take note of the first quote on the Quotes page on timtebowfans.org:

It happens pretty much a lot of the time. They just say thanks for coming.

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's profound, man
I guess, every now and then.

-Tim Tebow

And to think, I’ve barely scratched the surface of the Tebow Quotes….

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great writing too

“We will add more Tebow quotes when it is available.”

by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 24, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought this was what he said before he had sex
"This is a very big day in my life. This is the hardest decision I’ve ever had to make."

"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter

by xozte on Jul 24, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

That’s what he’ll say after the reverend says “You may now kiss the bride.”

“Kiss? Really? A girl???!”

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jul 24, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

what address did you think religions get?

by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 24, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought religious sites were .god

Or .zug for the PSU religious

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Jul 24, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well....

Do you really think it would work out for them if they tried a for-profit business model?

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?! You stupid monkey!

by leeharvey418 on Jul 24, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

To Bielema

After Michigan State’s drive sputtered outside of field goal range at the end of the game, and you went out on the field and came back with 20 yards in penalties soley against your self, well, I’d like to know how you looked your kids in the eyes after MSU won that game. What was it like afterwards when you side-stepped responsibility for it in the press conference, directing blame at your staff and your team?

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Jul 24, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I love this

From The Rivalry Esq

As Adam Rittenberg opined in his “Big Ten Media Days Primer,” there’s a lot of unanswered questions heading into Monday and Tuesday’s lake shore summit. But you’ve been through this drill before — two days of white tablecloths and microphone pop screens produces a lame symphony of soundbites, and no soul.

Why you ask? Because everybody states the obvious. Jim Tressel isn’t going to stumble up on stage with a sweaty forehead, gulp down a half bottled water, and say, “Alright — here’s the deal. We got a few new things that we probably won’t try until the bowl. (Mike) Adams has been a huge friggin’ disappointment. And come September 12th, our ass is grass.”

Nor is Bret Bielema going to sheepishly grin, roll his pen between his fingertips, and admit, “This will probably be my last one of these. Can I keep the pen?”

by BSD on Jul 24, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

that is priceless

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Jul 24, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the pen one of those

freebees that says “This pen stolen from Big Ten Media Day”?

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Jul 24, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course

Do you think Jim Delany is going to hand out free pens? This isn’t a charity, brother.

by BSD on Jul 24, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

To reply to Kevin HD...

“So it’s gotta be the schedule, right? Anyone care to talk me down on this?”

I can talk you down. At least, I’ll try.

On offense: I don’t think the WRs are a big deal. Honestly, I don’t. Clark should be better than last year, and we’re still returning Royster and Green. The offensive line is a much bigger question, but just because a guy had a senior in front of him doesn’t make him a scrub in my mind: OL is a position that takes time to develop because the bigger you are, the better you are.

So long as we can run the ball well, the WRs are going to find space. Keep in mind that while Butler, Norwood, and Williams were very solid receivers, they weren’t ideal size-wise. We did struggle occasionally against good defenses. A more well-rounded selection of WRs with experience might actually help.

On defense: Sean Lee. That’s all I have to say. I’m not nearly as down on the secondary as people would think – again, secondary is a position that guys grow into, especially at safety. I like Astorino at safety, and I still think Wallace can be a very good corner if he can improve his technique. It’s certainly not athleticism that’s keeping him back.

For me, the big question are the offensive and defensive lines. The WRs and secondary don’t worry me that much – they weren’t nearly as good as the OL/DL last year, so I don’t think replacing them will be that hard. Yes, I know that’s blasphemy re: the WRs, but so be it.

by Bleed Blue 'n White on Jul 24, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the PSU hype(if you wanna call it that) is easily explained.

It is almost by default. It is a function of everyone else in the big ten outside of OSU and PSU having large questions. PSU has holes, but has star power that the media sees and can gloss over said holes. Like I said, outside of OSU and us, all the other teams have major issues to fix and humps to get over. UM is still rebuilding, frosh QB. Iowa loses Green and is Iowa, MSU is rising but loses a tenured QB and great RB. Ind and Pur are Ind and Pur. NW will always be just NW. Brett Bielema happened to Wisc. Minny is just Minny. Illinois is coached by the Zooker. So OSU and PSU have another de-facto championship game by default.

And its the schedule.

But Barely.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Jul 24, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

How about...

…we are deeper and better than anyone in the conference!

…we have the 5 best players in the conference….Lee, Clark, Royster, Odrick, Bowman!

…we have the best coaching staff in the conference!

…that is why all the hype is true!

WE ARE.......PENN STATE!

by Nick7 on Jul 24, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Well said Roland . . .

Nothing wrong with Winning by default :)

by TITCUS on Jul 24, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it’s just because I was at that game, but D’antonio’s timeouts made that a legit rivalry for me. I’ve never been so mad at a coach that wasn’t coaching my own team.

Penn Staters belong at Penn State. The problem with a lot of kids is they just don’t know they are Penn Staters yet. -jesse. @ BSD

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Jul 24, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Total

grumpy dicktard move.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Jul 26, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dicktard

Nice

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

borrowed

from His RUTSiness above.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Jul 26, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

c****

I apologize for using the word C***. I don’t know or remember what I was commenting upon, or what was the date, but if you said I did it I believe you.

Was I talking about attorneys? That’s my only defense.

by dr kill on Jul 24, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Attorneys?

No, you were referring to a PSU student who just won a world championship in log running or whatever it’s called.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 24, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who are you...

Larry David?

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Jul 28, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

My optimism

comes from DC17 and the schedule. We easily have a better QB than anyone else we’re playing, and that’s a good place to start. Clark is a senior second year starter, which has been a good formula for JoePa, think about Kerry Collins, John Shaffer, and Todd Blackledge. I will be mildly surprised if more than three Big 10 teams finish the season ranked, and Penn St. should be favored in every game it plays this year. The defense is a concers, right now it’s just a huge unknown.

by Joe 96alum on Jul 25, 2009 7:59 AM EDT reply actions  

i give him credit on his ability....

to slay an chick he wants in Gainsvillem but not at QB unless its in the arena league

Melooooooo

by Mr.Clutch15 on Jul 26, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Penn State better than OSU in recruiting?

lol, get real. Every major publication ranks OSU better in recruiting than OSU, by at least ten spots.

My question to JoePa: How does it feel to lose to an unknown freshman kicker against Iowa in the cold, at the last second? haha

by Buckeye11021 on Jul 26, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jul 26, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He meant THIS YEAR, genius

tOSU has led in recruiting the past few years, but he meant this year you guys are behind us and scUM so far.

Every major publication ranks OSU better in recruiting than OSU

I hadn’t realized you guys actually beat yourselves in recruiting. Actually, that would explain Pryor though. Your own recruiting of Pryor actually ended up costing you games because Sweatervest was too worried about losing him, so he agreed to play him as a true freshman over a senior QB that led you guys to two MNC games (albeit failed attempts). So I guess technically your sentence was accurate. Touche.

Just like last time, thank you for being the representative of your university by posting dickish, half-brained comments that lead the rest of us to seriously doubt the quality of a tOSU education.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 26, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

A Buckeye fan talking smack? Who won last year’s game big guy?

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Jul 26, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but we only barely won

It was practically a loss for us, almost a win for them

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jul 26, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for raining on my parade

doucheabag

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Jul 26, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lighten up, Francis

It was sarcasm. The douceabag was a bit heavy.
Besides, I was only answering before the buckeye had a chance.
Anyway, does a jenius who says “Every major publication ranks OSU better in recruiting than OSU” even need a response?

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jul 26, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

All part of the

same circus reference. He was cracking on the same BleacherReport Buckeye doucheabag you did.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Jul 28, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hate to say it...

but you are using the same argument the Pantheroos use against us. Don’t go to the level of PITT.

Just remember, you can’t win a pissing contest with a skunk! Buckeye11021 is obviously a goofball with no grasp of facts.

by PaJoe on Jul 26, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

True

but we’ll be playing for the foreseeable future, they’ve had a recent double digit win season, and that guy talked smack about a loss PSU had last year, so I thought I’d remind him of a loss they had last year.

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Jul 26, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

Pitt fans are taking pride in beating the 2000 PSU team, come on.

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Jul 26, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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