Nitt Picks Is Defiling Your Tablecloth
by KevinHD on Jul 29, 2009 8:00 AM EDT
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PrintNew Becomes Old. Bloggers heading to the Media Day was all the rage this year. Hail To The Orange was hip to this, and came back with this awesomeness:
I'll let him tell the story:
(Note: All of this is paraphrase, not direct quote)
Joe wanted to show the reporters that the spread offense was nothing new, in fact according to Joe, "we were running it back in the '40s!"
Joe then proceeded to draw up an example of how he would run the backfield at Brown, drawing it up on the table cloth next to his coffee with a pen.
"Sometimes I would hand it off to him, sometimes to this guy, some times I would take it myself and sometimes I would throw it. But I couldn't throw for beans."
So after the room cleared out for the autograph sessions and banquet, I walked back over to the table and got this picture, evidence that the story is true.
What Media Day is really all about. And Sean Lee had this to share about team meetings:
Joe Paterno's comments drew laughs Monday; stories about him did the same here Tuesday. Penn State linebacker Sean Lee shared an anecdote about a cell phone ringing during a team meeting Paterno led. The ringing phone breaks a Nittany Lions team rule.
"Whenever we hear one go off, we start coughing to try to mask it," Lee said. "And he's like, 'What are you guys doing? Why is everybody coughing?' "
More things I don't understand. FoS reporting:
Last week, Penn State receiver James McDonald was kicked off the team after being hit with DUI charges. Now comes word that another Nittany Lion is facing similar accusations.
According to court documents, Ako Poti, whose actual first name is "Isaako," was recently charged with DUI. The Criminal Docket report filed in Centre Country says Poti faces charges of DUI, DUI with a high rate of alcohol (blood alcohol content of .10 to .16) and disregarding a traffic lane.
We'll keep an eye on this over the next day or two when we get some details. But again, where are all of these people driving to?
In Scores Of Other Games...A bit old here but MnB thinks our Oline is garbage...DocSat on Paterno admitting (why is this news, again?) that Clark > Morelli...Smart Football on evaluating a running game.
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That's not an acurate quote.
I’m pretty sure RichRod invented the spread. He’s going to sweep the nation with it this fall, just as soon as they get all those loydds out of there.
Order your copy of "We Are Penn State" The offseason is long. So is this magazine.
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DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Jul 29, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Isaako?
I think the recruitment of Poti was a failed attempt to keep Smolko on the team for three more years.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Jul 29, 2009 8:27 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
can we just recruit kids with very generic names who are really good
and then when they graduate, recruit another kid with that name, but just let our stars wear their unis?
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 29, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't tell...
Is that table covered with a paper? …or is it actually cloth? Because if it’s cloth, Joe kicks ass.
Either way, has anybody seen it on Ebay yet?
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
HttO
claims all cloth, baby.
Order your copy of "We Are Penn State" The offseason is long. So is this magazine.
A thousand coffee cups of Awesome
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
I would've taken the whole cloth
and the coffee cup that’s sitting RIGHT THERE. Joe Pa DNA? Sooner or later we’re going to figure out how to clone people, and out of classy, passionate, long-living, fit men, I would have a perfect first sample… for sale, of course.
Finally, an implied explanation for multiple DUIs
Unless someone covered this the last time it came up, in which case -1 to me. But it looks like:
DUI#1: Driving while barely buzzed (BAC > 0.08)
DUI#2: Driving while merely buzzed (0.1 < BAC < 0.16)
Anyone know what other possible charges you can receive in PA? Barely plastered? Merely wasted? How many can you accumulate per traffic stop?
Bacon is almost as great as being a Penn Stater
Thank PSUesq for this
She offered up a pretty detailed explanation of exactly how the multiple charges work.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Jul 29, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Fine then, I'll take the demerits
But I’m not going to flagellate myself (not right now, anyway) for missing a post that showed up 3 days after the thread went dead. Probably took that long for a criminal defense attorney to find the free time to type it up. That’s one job I would never want – I imagine being lied to constantly by the people I’m trying to defend, and never getting thanked for my efforts.
Bacon is almost as great as being a Penn Stater
by NittanyTide on Jul 29, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Aw, shucks!
Believe it or not, criminal defense is actually fun. Especially with the current administration. You must start out from the beginning realizing that your client is most likely not telling you the truth and you don’t EVAR expect a thank you. With that being said, quite a few of my clients do thank me, which is very nice. Oh, and I’m posting this on the same day as the original post!
Get a job,
and get off the internets thing.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jul 29, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
"Oh, and I’m posting this on the same day as the original post!"
Damn – forgot the quote. Without it, it looks like I’m just being a dick.
Sorry, ESQ.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jul 29, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
heh, I just finally got it
not PSU-esque, but PSU esquire.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 29, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That IS funny
I thought: wow, Pete usually isn’t such a dick.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
The death threats...
don’t forget the death threats for failing to get an acquittal.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Not that I have intimate knowledge or anything…
…and not that I just got my license back from a DUI suspension or anything but…
There are three tiers to PA’s DUI law:
Per Se: .08 to .0999
High BAC: .10 to .1599
Highest BAC : .16 +
All can get you up to as much as 6 months in jail max but minimums are:
Per Se: none
High BAC: 2 days
Highest BAC: 3 days
License suspension:
Per Se: 2 month suspension
High BAC: 12 month suspension
Highest BAC: 12 month suspension
But that’s not really what you get in most PA counties, most offer ARD which is accelerated
rehabilitation which knocks everything down to a slap on the wrist. No jail time in any case and
license suspension as follows:
Per Se: none
High BAC: 30 days
Highest BAC: 60 days
ARD is only available if you qualify (no property damage, no accident, and no child in the car).
ARD is only available to 1st time offenders and it makes it almost damn near impossible to turn down
Because if you challenge the DUI in court they will give you the max.
As was stated before, State College really has a good public transportation system so getting a DUI shouldn’t happen as much and because of that the S.C. police are not forgiving. It was a Friday night so I’ll bet Ako was heading home from a bar late and forget the "traffic violation," if it’s late at night all they need is an excuse to pull you over so they can nail you for DUI. They can’t just pull you over for no reason but they make up reasons pretty easily, that’s where a lawyer can fight it, but again with ARD you’d be nuts to.
I've never gotten a DUI
but I’ve been pulled over countless times (though not in a while), basically because of profiling. 20-ish guy driving around 2 am. I think over one 2-year period I had been pulled over 15 times, basically for the cops just to “check”.
1 time: did a “rolling” stop at a 4-way stop sign (and by “rolling” I had come to a complete stop, but the cop says my car didn’t “lurch”.
Another time: I was driving my cousin home from his 21st. I had 2 beers over a 5 hour period. Cop pulls me over after following me for ~3 miles. His explanation, “you didn’t cross the center line, but a couple times your tires came close to touching it. Also, you had your windows down and were talking to your buddy there”. (the time I came “close to touching it” [that’s what she said] was when I was going past a newspaper delivery guy that was stopped halfway onto the shoulder, and another time when a deer darted in front of me)
Another time: 1 of the 5 lights in my brake light was out. Cop followed me for ~2 miles, and pulls me over right outside my house, makes me get out and do a field sobriety test (I had zero drinks).
Then numerous other times where they pulled me over for various other crap things like stopping half a foot over the line at a stop light, etc.
Cops will pull you over for ANYTHING at 2 am.
Ironically, the time I probably had the most to drink when driving, I stop at a sobriety checkpoint (sweating, of course). Cop asks me if I had anything to drink I say, “yeah, a couple beers”. Makes me blow into the breathalyzer. Asks me again, “are you sure that’s all you had?” I sweat some more, say, “yes sir”. He replies, “yep, that’s what this says too, doesn’t detect anything.”
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 29, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
"That" sweat...
is aweful…yeah, I can relate…cold full body sweat all @ once.
I was pulled 2’s during my college years…VERY lucky!
One time, on campus / early ’90’s ( ended-up driving for many, covered ‘prolly 4 miles to get everyone) and I have NO CLUE how, I passed the field tests: counting, the alphabet (both of them forward and backwards – but neither the whole way). Heel to toe, walked the line ( one time in new cowboy boots – when they were “in”) and passed…no breath-a-lized that night; don’t know why…
…and yes…very dumb
"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."
by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 29, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Juggernitt........
I had no idea you were black. lol. :)
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
"If you hear Ric Flair is in town......WOOOOO........you KNOW things are takin' place".
Ric Flair
NEVAH EVAH
admit to having anything to drink when asked. You’ve just given them permission to test you for everything/anything.
“No, Sir/Ma’am” is the only acceptable response.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jul 29, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
well I've never had anything to really worry about
as I know my BAC would be negligible with the amount I’d had when I’ve driven. I suppose there’s always the chance of a misred/errored test. When I say I’d had a couple of beers, it was about 3 beers over a 4 hour span, so I wasn’t really worried about it, but the way the cop was talking, it was like he was trying to get me to admit to chugging a fifth of vodka before setting out.
Now I probably have driven when over the limit before, but luckily never been pulled over. I’ve never been drunk, but I’ve had the times where I felt perfectly fine when leaving the bar/party, knew I didn’t have that much to drink, but then the last drink sorta takes effect halfway home.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 29, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Reading your adventures here has been highly entertaining.
Sorry you got profiled. Thanks for the laughs, though.
Bacon is almost as great as being a Penn Stater
The cop that pulled me over for "rolling through a 4-way stop"
is also the same cop that a week later responded to the emergency call when I dislocated my knee back in some woods behind my house, and also a couple years earlier drew his gun on me when I accidentally set off the silent alarm in my house in late october (I was like 14 or 15) and came outside with my hands in my pockets
(not the only time a cop has drawn his gun on me. the other time being when my friend thought it was a good idea to drive 105 MPH down a 55 MPH road. The cop comes up, I have my hands on my lap, he draws his gun on me and yells for me to put them on the dash. We thought we were F-ed. The cop asks, “do you know how fast you were going?” My friend obviously plays dumb. The cop says, “I tagged you going 74 in a 55, son!” It took all we had to wait until he walked back to his car before we burst out laughing and my friend says, “oh, you musta tagged me when I was slowing down”)
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 29, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
JNitt the badass
Damn, guns pulled twice, and you were worried about a dui?
Put a tarp on that circus! - showtime @ BSD
LOL
anything but a badass, and the guns were pulled at ~14 and 17, and while I know cops have their protocols and have to protect themselves and assume/expect the worst, it was a little bit surprising on my side of things (though now I’ve learned the valuable lesson: keep your hands where cops can see them)
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 29, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Lying to a cop seems like a bad idea. And in most states, at least, they’ve already got permission to test you for alcohol via “implied consent” laws. (I, unlike several people here apparently, am not a lawyer; this is just what I remember from driver’s ed.)
Yes, but..
by admitting you have been drinking basically forces them to make you take the breath test, and even if that doesn’t show you’re above the limit, it’s off for a blood test for you. That can be bad news.
Anybody take a few hits of that doobie passed around at the party the day before? It will show up. As will everything and anything.
If they want to test you, they’ll test you. Don’t force them to.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Aug 1, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Side note
How did that doucheabag Devious Otto get a link to Syracuse on here (just above the comments section)?
i’m serious when I say that I would have cut that out of the table cloth and ran back to my hotel room. i bet that thing ends up on ebay by tomorrow.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
I thought the same thing...
but wouldn’t have had scissors so I would’ve tried the “swipe the tablecloth without disturbing the placesettings” trick. It’d more than likely have disastrous results, but at least I’d have the tablecloth (plus a few coffee stains).
by Screen Name 20 on Jul 29, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Would've been hilarious
Can you imagine the mileage you’d get outta that story? (Grandpa to Grandson): ‘see this golf shirt here sonny? See this coffee stain right here? Sit up here on my knee and lemme tell you the story of how Grandpa disrupted media day and scored that tablecloth you’re tailgating on right now’
Is the fact that none of these ‘all the rage’ bloggers performed this act due to the lack of BSD representation?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Would've been a great story
And I’d like to think that, yes, a BSD member would have pulled this trick.
by Screen Name 20 on Jul 29, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent point asking where they were driving
State college is the easiest city to get around without a car. There is no excuse to be driving while intoxicated at PSU-there are too many drinking options close by and there are too many alternative forms of transport available. I once went a whole month without driving my car at Penn State. In fact I went out to lot 423N or wherever partly to go to the mall and partly because I was concerned that if I didn’t fire up the ignition that I may have problems later.
It is also common knowledge that you never drive drunk in State College.
It is just way too easy to get pulled over. I think everybody has a story about walking back to town from those apartments out by Wal-Mart.
Uh, no?
State College is the easiest city to get around in without a car if you live on campus or nearby. South of campus (along South Atherton) is pretty reasonable until you’re talking about living out at Southgate or so.
North of campus, though, gets a lot harder. If you live at Toftrees (which seems to be a bit common for football players, but that’s just anecdotal. Could be because it’s easy to get in/out by the stadium back to Toftrees). CATA becomes a non-option at drinking hours (it doesn’t run). Taxis are there, of course, but out to Toftrees becomes a little more expensive.
Most people who say “how the heck do you get a DUI at Penn State” always seem to think everyone lives on campus.
by Bleed Blue 'n White on Jul 29, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a bar in Toftrees.
Plus I’ve done the walk back from Toftrees. Not fun, but not horrible either. All I’m saying is compared to other automobile-centric cities in the USA, there is no reason that it should be a problem. If you want to drink, then just live in one of the thousands of dormitories, apartments, or homes within a 5 minute walking distance of College Avenue.
that always pissed me off
same here at MSU. The busses friggen stop running when there is potentially the biggest “need” for it (yeah yeah, people need to get to classes also, but I’d also like to not have to worry about drunks driving) at like 1:40, probably because they don’t want to deal with a ton of drunk people on the bus. I mean sure, people can always plan ahead and leave early, but the really drunk people probably aren’t paying attention to the time, either.
Another thing that annoys me about it is that I’ve been in line for a bus before, but it was too long to get on the last one, and no others came around. I wound up flagging down a cab, but I’m sure there are people that just say “F*** it” and hop in their car.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 30, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
On the topic of JC recruits
and completely off topic, wasn’t JB Walton at one point a five star recruit (out of high school before going to JC)? Somehow, our five star recruits never really pan out. I will count DWill as panning out, but otherwise, Wallace, #14, Logan-El…
No you're a little off
Walton was a 4* OG according to Scout and Rivals, but he had to prep for a year like Clark did. He’s got time to prove himself, so I wouldn’t give up on him just yet. Wallace also has some time. Dan Connor was a 5* on Scout.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
by psuphiman80 on Jul 29, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
What exactly......
Does one have to do to “disregarding a traffic lane” ?
by RudyWasOffsides on Jul 29, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
Swerve...
Hell, when I was in high school, I got pulled over late one Friday night because the cop said I swung the turn a little too wide while making a left turn in the middle of my town. Had it not been for the fact that I was stone-sober, I’m sure they would have gotten me for some level of underage drinking over that whole deal.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Jul 29, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
which, in a nutshell....
is why you don’t drive in state college if there is any doubt about sobriety. any excuse to pull someone over will be utilized.
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
Doesn't even have to be a swerve...
If you “momentarily” cross the fog line or the center line, that’s disregarding a traffic lane. That’s the most charged summary offense with a DUI because that’s how the police have reasonable suspicion to stop someone, especially late at night…if you know what I mean. Who doesn’t cross any lines on the road when they drive?!
Another vote for
why-in-hell-do-you-get-a-DUI-in-State-College. I didn’t even have a car when I was there, although that meant I had to mooch off of friends to go to the grocery store.
QB14/DC17
I am sure this has been covered, but does Joe continue to bring this up because of the heat that JayPa has gotten?
by InScoresOfOtherGames on Jul 29, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
The question was posed to Joe:
Q. Could you talk about Daryll Clark, what he does best and his skill set, and what else you’d like to see him improve upon this year?
JOE PATERNO: Well, Daryll had a fine year last year, but he’s got to grow on that. I think people will know a little bit more about him. He hadn’t played a lot of football before last year, and that probably was my fault. Jay Paterno, who coached the quarterbacks two years ago, wanted to play Clark more, and I thought it would discourage the kid that we were using, and I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one…
Joe didn’t bring it up… he just cited it in the course of pointing out that Clark needs more playing time to develop into the best player he can be.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Jul 29, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
It annoys me, and no offense to you, InScoresOfOtherGames, not saying you did this, when people write about/complain about Joe Pa bringing up something over and over again, when that’s ALL he’s asked about. Like when conference expansion was the hot topic I’d see people saying shit about Joe Pa being obsessed with it, and to let it die, when anywhere from 90% to 100% of the time, he had been asked about it. It’d be like saying Joe Pa talks about not knowing when he is going to retire too much. You can’t watch a press conference without that question being asked.
by PSUisMyHeart on Jul 29, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
But asking the same questions......
over and over is what “you” the public wants to hear. Just ask any talk radio show host…..they’ll tell you what you want and then tell you they give it to you because you want it.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
"If you hear Ric Flair is in town......WOOOOO........you KNOW things are takin' place".
Ric Flair
Completely agree, but not my point
Joe could say only “We should have played DC” but he chooses instead an answer that allows him to paint Jay in a positive light, and relieve some of the criticism that was directed at Jay during QB14’s tenure.
Honest, intentional. both?
by InScoresOfOtherGames on Jul 29, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, both, but also
dude is his son. I know we rag on him for perhaps using some of his leverage to pump up Jay, but on some level (and I’m no dad, by the way) there is kind of a natural inclination to do that whether you are a PA coal miner who’s kid just got an A on his spelling test or, like, JoePa.
I’m not sayin’ it’s right, but I’m not sure it’s calculated and evil either.
Order your copy of "We Are Penn State" The offseason is long. So is this magazine.
Does Pryer '09 remind anyone else of Morelli '07?
Big hype in recruiting. Loses every big game the previous year. Does really well against bad opponents the previous year & in spring game. Preseason stories come out about how he has matured, improved his technique and become a team leader. For some reason, the team’s fans think the new year will be different.
We all know how well ’07 worked out for us.
Born and raised in the shadow of Mount Nittany
if..
I see Pryor take a slide on 3rd and 7 to keep OSU out of field goal range and force a punt…. then yes!
Poor Morelli, million dollar arm and a nickle brain. So much for that Rivals 5star rating they gave him.
by RudyWasOffsides on Jul 29, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Pryor was a freshman
QB-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named was a junior in ’06. Players making big leaps between their freshman and sophomore seasons are relatively common; players making big leaps in their senior year after not doing so after their first couple seasons (unless injuries are a factor) are much rarer.
Here's what bothers me most about recruiting rankings
they somehow stick with a player throughout their career. Even though Deon Butler and Jordan Norwood proved that they were really good/great receivers, they’re still basically considered a walk-on and a 2 star, or whatever.
Isn’t it much more likely that the recruiting services just got things wrong? Or perhaps they didn’t have a team around them in HS to really let them stand out?
So now with Clark and Pryor, last year Clark clearly showed he was the better QB of the two, yet for some reason, just because Pryor has a higher recruiting rating, he’s expected to be better this year. Yes, Pryor was a true freshman last year, and he’ll likely improve, but guess what, Clark was a first year starter last year and is also likely to improve.
And yes, this can also be said about both of them, but if Pryor was on pretty much any other team other than OSU last year he wouldn’t have done NEARLY as well as he did. With their team, pretty much any mediocre QB could have done as good of a job as he did (and yet they benched Boeckman…WTF?!?!?). And even WITH Wells, they didn’t have that great of an offense.
But hey, at least he was a very highly touted recruit, so he must be better, right? Just ask QB14
Also, and I'm not trying to defend the creepiness of recruiting services
but they can’t keep tabs on every single player in HS football, no matter how many staffers or scouts they have. Although we probably make the most of seeing talent in a lightly recruited players more than any other team, I wonder if they were just extremely talented players that didn’t get noticed and flew under the radar.
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