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Sigh. Another one for OTL....

Incoming freshman LB Glenn Carson is making friends and influencing people.  Sadly, the people he's meeting are the Penn State U. Police.  Cited for underage & public drunkenness on campus.

My question:  If he was cited for underage... did he have to actually be drinking when the cop grabbed him?  Or can they get you for that if you earn yourself a public drunk charge without them seeing you do the drinking?  Anything going on at the old Phi Delt house this summer, or was he just wandering around smashed? Regardless, not a great way to welcome yourself to your new team.

Anyway.  Hopefully Joe beats him severely and he learns that cops in S.C. aren't as OMG FOOTBALL PLAYER! as the rest of the population.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2009/07/30/players_involved_in_trouble.aspx

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I guess he got the memo about us being the #1 party school.

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by 06Lion on Jul 30, 2009 7:09 AM EDT reply actions  

This sucks

At least it’s just been drankin though. This is killing the Fulmer Cup season that PSU was having.

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by psuphiman80 on Jul 30, 2009 7:58 AM EDT reply actions  

about the underage

TS,

PSU Police give out underages regardless of alcohol if you were under 21 and the cops hit your party and say you werent drinking or you were the designated driver, or maybe you walked in to see all the excitement. Blam underage. The PD charge was most likely from him leaving the party reeking or booze and being loud. Hey remember in 2005 when staring Safety Paul Cronin got kicked off the team for PD? He was only trying to sleep in the bushes off Curtin Rd.

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by Kunza on Jul 30, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

More schoolin'

An underage citation is technically called “Purchase, consumption, possession or transportation of liquor or malt or brewed beverages”. Therefore, doing any of the above will snag you a lovely underage citation. If you’re holding a beer, smell of beer, blow higher than a 0.02% on the PBT, have liquor in your car (or between your feet on the floor of the backseat), etc. you will be charged in State College. There is a zero tolerance policy here, mainly due to the riots. In addition to fines and costs, a first offense will net you a 90 day driver license suspension, a second offense is a one year suspension and a third or subsequent offense is a two year suspension. It is a summary offense, which is handled in front of a Magisterial District Judge and is very similar in nature to a speeding ticket on the crime seriousness scale. Once you turn 21 years old, you can now petition to have them expunged or erased from your permanent criminal record. However, it will stay on your driving record for ten years.

by PSUesq on Jul 30, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously?

That’s the law verbatim? Because wine is neither liquor nor malt nor brewed…

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Jul 30, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

PA defines Liquor as

“…any alcoholic, spirituous, vinous, fermented or other alcoholic beverage, or combination of liquors and mixed liquor a part of which is spirituous, vinous, fermented or otherwise alcoholic, including all drinks or drinkable liquids, preparations or mixtures and reused, recovered or redistilled denatured alcohol usable or taxable for beverage purposes which contain more than 0.50% of alcohol by volume…”
I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley…

by PSUesq on Jul 30, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

Actually I was wondering if they had written their own definition of ‘Brewed’… but defining ‘Liquor’ to suit their purposes works too.

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Jul 30, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff, thanks.

I’m sure the PSU police force needs little provocation to grab someone and write them up, but I do wonder what he did to warrant a discussion with the long arm of the law.

by Tailgate Shogun on Jul 30, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Add'l followup ?s re: Records

I got from your post the separation of these two:
Permanent Criminal Record: is this aka one’s Rap Sheet?
Driving Record

What other records are there that might be affected? Are these ‘records’ stored by state and then shared? Thanks for the info.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Jul 30, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least he is a LB....

still…way to many drinking violations…

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by QBsneak12 on Jul 30, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

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