I watched Shipley quite a bit in the steelers last game and he looked good. He got into a little shoving match with a lineman at one point, and played the whole time I watched the game.
I hope he does well but I went with Butler as the best player for long term career. Wide receivers seem to be able to hang around a long time in the league.

Williams has been in the 1st string offense, I’m not sure he started but he’s been in there quite a bit. Only one pass in his direction, an over thrown ball on the post route to the endzone. Williams also returned a punt all of 5 yards. He wasn’t in on kick-off returns, so that’s interesting.

As long as Culpepper is QB I doubt Williams will get a catch this game, he is simply terrible. Hopefully Stafford has the ability to stand in the pocket and throw the ball, all Cullpeper has managed to do is scramble out and run, he even put his shoulder down and took a few hits running up field. In a preseason game, that’s about as stupid as it gets, just ask Charlie Batch (sustained a season ending injury last year b/c he lowered his shoulder for extra yards running in a preseason game).

Just caught a nice long TD in the endzone with great coverage, Stafford threw a good one and williams came down with it. cool.

Anybody seen Poz? Or any of the other PSU guys? I haven’t been paying much attention, even though the game is on.

I DVR’d the game, not thru the whole thing, but so far Butler had a few catches, returned a few punts, he looks really good. Tj Hushmanzada (sp?) had some good things to say about Deon during his interview, said he’s small, but he likes him a lot. Said he wanted to go back in the game to fight somebody after Butler took a good shot and the CB celebrated.

Compared to Williams, Butler looks faster and seems to run his routes better.

just a guess…interior linemen can have LONG careers though if they have the body for it

slight edge over butler

led both Panthers and Giants in Tackles. which is good considering his injury. god to hear his knee is better!!