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Potential Penn State Problem #5: Can I Kick It?

"Above all, we must abolish hope in the heart of man. A calm despair, without angry convulsions, without reproaches to Heaven, is the essence of wisdom." -- Alfred Victor Vigny (French poet, dramatist, and novelist, 1797-1863)

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"Despair is the conclusion of fools" -- Benjamin Disraeli (British Prime Minister and Novelist. 1804-1881)

 

Maybe it's the fact that I was born in Philadelphia, grew up rooting for Philadelphia teams, and inevitably had my hopes and dreams crushed in the most horrifying and heartbreaking ways.  (But hey, we care.)  Despite this scarred past, I tend to be more optimistic when it comes to Penn State.  College games are just a happier atmosphere and lend themselves toward good vibes, as opposed to the lurking dread and threat of physical injury that accompanies any Philadelphia sporting event from the NFC Championship to Wing Bowl. 

Still, I remain a natural skeptic.  So when we kicked around the idea of who would perform the duties of OH NOES WE SUCK AGAIN, I was the obvious choice.  Without accounting for the pastry-laden schedule, does this Penn State team feel like a 12-0 or 11-1 team?  No, not to me.  There are crucial losses to graduation, position changes along the offensive line, and any number of other concerns.  When I look at this year's Penn State team, my first instinct isn't "OMG 12-0!".  But the schedule does lend itself to a memorable season if a few crucial elements come together.  One of those elements is the replacement for record-setting placekicker, Kevin Kelly.

History will appreciate Kevin Kelly more than Penn State fans seemed to throughout his career.  To get a sense of what Penn State needs to replace, here are Kelly's career stats at a Lion:

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YEAR TEAM G FGM FGA PCT 1-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50+ LNG XPM XPA PTS
2005 PSU 0 16 23 69.6 0-0 10-12 4-7 2-3 0-1 47 49 50 97
2006 PSU 0 22 34 64.7 1-1 8-8 8-12 5-10 0-3 49 30 30 96
2007 PSU 0 20 26 76.9 0-0 14-14 4-4 1-5 1-3 53 44 45 104
2008 PSU 0 20 24 83.3 0-0 8-8 8-8 2-5 2-3 52 60 60 120

After a shaky sophomore year, Kelly was quite dependable inside of 40 yards and even managed to hit a few longer field goals in his senior season.  For his career, he missed only two extra points in four years and converted 73.7% of his field goal attempts, which places him among the most accurate kickers in Penn State history:

Nick Gancitano (1981-84):  77.5%

Travis Forney (1996-99):  74.6%

Brian Franco (1980-81): 73.9%

Brett Conway (1993-96):  73.7%

Kevin Kelly (2005-08):  73.7%

Source: nittanyanthology.com

Also, Kelly's 83.3% (20-for-24) conversion rate in 2008 equalled the best single season percentage by any PSU kicker (Conway went 10-for-12 in 1994, who needed field goals that year?).  So there's room for concern now that Kelly is gone.

If you believe Joe Paterno, Collin Wagner will get the first shot at nailing down the job:

"He was very close to Kevin last year. He may have a little stronger leg. I don’t think he’s as consistent as Kevin was. We’ll have to see, but I think he’s got a chance," Paterno said.

Wagner sat down with BWI after the Blue-White game for an interview.  If Wagner fails, it's generally thought that true freshman Anthony Fera would be next in line, followed by David Soldner.  Fera likely has the strongest leg of the group.  If you really care, there's YouTube footage of Fera booming kickoffs through the uprights in high school and making 55+ yard field goals during his summer workouts

As a result, we may see Fera handling kickoff duties while Wagner does the placekicking.  You already know how much Joe Paterno harps on the kicking game.  If Penn State is going to make a run at another BCS appearance, Wagner and Fera will have to be a big part of the team's success.

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YES YOU CAN!!!

Had to, sorry.

"A setback is just a set up for a comeback." -Drew Brees

by kajpsu on Aug 18, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can you grow one?

Yes you can!

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Aug 18, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many do we think they've sold?

My money is on around 450,000

"A setback is just a set up for a comeback." -Drew Brees

by kajpsu on Aug 18, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'll be doing us a really big favor

Boy, this post really has a lot of flavor.
When it comes to rhythms, ruts is your savior.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Aug 18, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Kelly

I personally never understood all the discontent related to Kelly’s kicking. I think people too often compair college kickers to professional ones in the NFL without realizing that Kelly was damn good for a college kicker, especially considering that he was thrown into the fire as a freshman. He had some heartbreaking misses, but all kickers do in college and he was generally better than most.

As for 2009, I’m fully expecting Wagner to be the regular FG kicker with Fera doing kickoffs and perhaps long FGs (more than 45 yd or so). Though with Fera being with the team in the spring, I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up with a greater than expected role this year.

by Laaaaazzz on Aug 18, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think people's opinion of Kelly was largely due to the Orange Bowl

and it took him a couple years to win back the trust.

by cpm126 on Aug 18, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That

and he was pretty spotty his sophomore year in 2006. In a year when touchdowns were hard to come by, every missed field goal took the air out of the team.

by BSD on Aug 18, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is what i remember

i remember the illinois game that year. home. we lost. because kelly missed a couple FG’s and perhaps one of his PAT.

of course that game also sucked b/c morelli couldn’t throw anything but a screen but that’s another topic.

We Are...

by amandakt on Aug 18, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We actually won that game at home, 26-12. Scirrotto returned an onside kick for a TD, in one of the cooler plays I’ve witnessed first-hand.

We lost the next year at Illinois, but I don’t think FG’s were the problem there. So I’m not quite sure what game you’re thinking of.

Penn Staters belong at Penn State. The problem with a lot of kids is they just don’t know they are Penn Staters yet. -jesse. @ BSD

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Aug 18, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I submit

(again and again and again)

it wasn’t the number missed in 2006 that was alarming – it was the number attempted. That year he was the co-leader in overall scoring in the B10.

PSU beat Illinois in 2006.

by PSUgirl on Aug 18, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed with the attempts being the problem

Especially in 2007, when Kelly hit his stride.
That’s when it was clear that people didn’t have a problem with Kelly so much as the coaches deciding that we needed to kick FOURTEEN field goals from less than 30 yards out.

Also, Collin Wagner hit that 43 yard FG against Syracuse, for what that’s worth.

by Aaron PSU on Aug 18, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meant to mention that

Wagner has one FG and a couple of XP’s to his credit.

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Order your copy of "We Are Penn State", like, now. One team, 128 pages.

by Run Up The Score on Aug 18, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I agree

Our red zone offense wasn’t the best that year. However, I remember being at the games and rolling my eyes when Kevin would attempt a field goal. It was great how he hit his stride in 07-08, I think we are really going to miss Kevin. I meet him at a party, he is a stand up guy.

by GoingDeep on Aug 18, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, that's how I remember it as well

he was pretty phenomenal as a Freshman, then kinda choked in the Orange Bowl, and had a very inconsistent Soph year. If he came in as a Soph without having played as a Freshman, then we probably would have thought “hey, he’s not that bad” but unfortunately he set expectations pretty high the previous year. His Junior year was pretty good, and his Senior year was great.

I don’t really recall any negative statements about Kelly since 2006, though…

by The JuggerNitt on Aug 19, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Choked in the Orange Bowl

I was so glad he ended up being the hero after missing those two kicks, one of the poetic subplots of that night, along with our phoenix-like rise from the ashes of the Dark Years.

by dawsonPSU10 on Aug 19, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure.

I did a Google Image search for “sad robot”. I think it was six or seven pages deep.

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Order your copy of "We Are Penn State", like, now. One team, 128 pages.

by Run Up The Score on Aug 18, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks!

Thought it might have come from a movie.

by Mr. Rosewater on Aug 18, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hold on a second-

Why is ReadingRambler sad?

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Aug 18, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rambler -

I always thought you were taller…

"...goon-a-la-goun-ga...gung-ga-la-gun-ga...he said; there will be no money exchanged..."

by BlueWhiteLife on Aug 18, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I look more like those guys from Star Wars. Curse you, Jedi.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Aug 18, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All Hail

Travis Forney!

by queler on Aug 18, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Forney

The two things I remember most about Travis Forney when I was at PSU:
1.) I saw him at a Halloween party dressed as himself
2.) I saw him get punched in the face outside of University Terrace, dressed as himself

by The Mess on Aug 18, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This could definitely make a difference

In terms of the aggressiveness of whether to go for the 1st down or kick the FG. We have been used to JoePa having confidence in sending in KK to knock in a long FG at times. We may be going for a lot more 4th and 5’s from the 30yd line this year. Having a dependable kicker can be so big, especially in the Big 10, where you can definitely get some tough conditions in the 2nd half of the season.

by mundyscorner99 on Aug 18, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You think so?

The past few years it seemed to me Paterno was gunshy about letting Kelly try anything over 40 yards. He often elected to pooch punt rather than try a 45 yard field goal. I just watched the Illinois game the other day and I think Kelly had two pooch punts in that game.

I’m hoping Paterno has more confidence to let Wagner and/or Fera try some in the 45-50 yard range. That is as long as they can make them. Otherwise I’ll be here complaining Paterno is an idiot for not going for it on 4th and 4. I always reserve my blogger’s right to 20/20 hindsight.

by BSD on Aug 18, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every fan's favorite

The pooch punt from the 31 yard line that winds up going in the end zone.

I think everyone would be happier with a three yard draw… even if it was 4th and 17

by cpm126 on Aug 18, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call this a distant fifth.

Compared to other issues, this does not concern me a great deal. I think the offense will stall more inside the red zone, but I don’t see a repeat of 2007 where PSU had fourteen field goals inside of 30 yards! I think we have depth at kicking, it’s something that JoePa has always tried to maintain and something that’s still incredibly rare in college football.

by Cairo on Aug 18, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Would be nice..

to have a kicker who could put the ball into or through the end zone with ease.

As much as I like watching Stupar blow up returns, my life is easier when they’re starting on the 20.

by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 18, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fera

I think Fera might be that man. He certainly has the leg strength and I would think there’s less anxiety with kickoffs since it’s on the tee and you just have to kick it far.

Besides which, PSU has always seemed pretty good to me with having kickers who can get touchbacks. Though the new rules from a few years ago made it tougher, so I think there just are far fewer touchbacks than in the past across college football.

by Laaaaazzz on Aug 18, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's referring

to the move of kickoffs back to the 30-yard line. They started this right before the 2007 season, where previously it had been the 35-yard line

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Aug 19, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although a kicker who can kick one sky high

and pin the opposition at the 5 yd line every time would also be nice.

by dawsonPSU10 on Aug 18, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So it's super late

And I’m gazing upon that sad robot and thinking about Vigny’s quote. A calm despair is the essence of wisdom. Hmmm, never thought of wisdom that way. If it is, then why the kybosh on angry convulsions or reproaches to Zug? Yeah, I think this is where he’s gone astray. First off, he’s got no heart: sounds like a dispassionate loser and a p*ssy really. Probably wore a trench coat. I think I’ll pray to Zug to send Leman over as emissary to lay a basket of freedom fries at his grave, so maybe the poor soul’s soul can finally get some peace. And that sad robot can turn his frown upside down.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Aug 19, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Benjamin Disraeli

You don’t even know who I am

by Bob Sacamano on Aug 19, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is this the guy.......

the Cream album was named after ? “Disraeli Gears” ?

Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.

"If you hear Ric Flair is in town......WOOOOO........you KNOW things are takin' place".

Ric Flair

by ech2os on Aug 20, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha, wow

I was just about to ask that same question. And according to wikipedia, yes it was:

The title of the album was taken from an inside joke. Eric Clapton had been thinking of buying a racing bicycle and was discussing it with Ginger Baker, when a roadie named Mick Turner commented, “it’s got them Disraeli Gears”, meaning to say “derailleur gears”, but instead alluding to 19th Century British Prime Minister, Benjamin Disraeli. The band thought this was hilarious, and decided that it should be the title of their next album. Had it not been for Mick, the album would simply have been entitled Cream.

by dawsonPSU10 on Aug 20, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

That’s funny. For 20 years I have kind of wondered what the hell Disraeli was in that album title. I figured being a British band, the title was probably really brainy and escoteric……..well……..it was definitely esoteric. lol. Thanks for the info.

Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.

"If you hear Ric Flair is in town......WOOOOO........you KNOW things are takin' place".

Ric Flair

by ech2os on Aug 20, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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