Interesting PSU stat on QB experience.

by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 22, 2009 3:13 PM EDT Comment 13 comments

From the CDT:

In Joe's 43 years of coaching, he's entered the season with a senior starting QB with at least one year of starting experience 14 times. In those 14 seasons, the Lions averaged 9.7 wins and a winning percentage of .810. Paterno's teams overall (43 years) averaged 8.9 wins or .749 overall.

In those 14 years, PSU won 2 NC's (82 & 86), and 2 undefeated seasons (69 & 94).

Just thought was a good omen for this season.......

Link:

http://www.centredaily.com/sports/story/1463003.html

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Thanks for the jinx AHOLE

by SweepTheLeg on Aug 22, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

nice work, STL... lol

I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member

by TheMightyErik on Aug 22, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also consider that 2004 fits that pattern

Take away a 4-7 season, and the average wins per year goes up to 10.2.

Happy to help with the jinx.

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Aug 22, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

2003 fits as well

and that’s a 3-9 season.

Then again, 2005 & 2008 had first year starters, and look how those turned out. I’d have to imagine from the implied years above that 68 & 73 had first year starters as well.

by The JuggerNitt on Aug 24, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Um, wasn't the starting QB the same in 03 & 04?

aka, Mills?

Therefore, Mills not a senior in 03.

No?

by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 24, 2009 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good point, but...

I could see the logic in including ’03 in this stat, because really- how many times have we ever had a junior QB come back with at least one full year of starting experience under his belt?

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Aug 24, 2009 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that was mostly what I was thinking

but also I just misread it and didn’t see starting senior

by The JuggerNitt on Aug 24, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's see:

Tony Sacca, definitely.

Maybe Wally Richardson?

Although I guess the question is did the person need to start the whole season, a few games, or what?

by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 24, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The original position was 'at least year of starting experience'

I take that to be at least a full season.

So how many times have we ever had a sophomore (or freshman) start every game?

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Aug 25, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

also, does this take into consideration

if the starter is injured one week? Does he then not qualify?

by The JuggerNitt on Aug 25, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm...

In Mills’ case, I’d have to say yes, because he had plenty of experience before 2003 to back it up.

Regardless, I’d have to take a minimum of 11 starts as my basis for calling it a ‘full season’, even if those games were spread out over a couple of years.

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Aug 25, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is what I've said all along.

How many seasons have we underachieved because we were starting a QB because he was a senior. Then the next year it’s the same thing. All of our great teams have had multiple year starters (2005 being the exception). As long as Clark stays healthy this year, that’s why I think Devlin leaving was best for us in the long run. It allowed us to land Newsome, who will probably be a three year starter until he’s done.

13 DAYS 12 HOURS 38 MINUTES 41 SECONDS UNTIL KICKOFF!!!

by Ab4PSU on Aug 22, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs