I said the basketball deal could be the same percentage of profit gain that they are making in comparison to the football situation. Indiana does need the cash, that is no different than any other low tier team, including 1AA teams. I wasn’t going to mention the stadium thing but since you brought up the "playing in front of 100k, as being “something they will remember for a long time”, for many of these Indiana players playing in an NFL stadium will be an experience they may remember for a long time, since 90% of their team has no shot at the NFL.

I find it very disagreeable that you and Michigan fans are saying this is like the Delaware State situation. It isn’t Indiana will be at least a 20 pt underdog no matter where they play. As for losing a “marquee game” what exactly do they lose? The local economy might take a hit, but the university will do just fine.

Come on, as was stated by Mike above, they are underdogs no matter where they play this game. The only thing that changes is the fan base. Penn State still has to break routine, and play on the road, they still have to adjust to the different environment. The only difference is that now Indiana has to do the same.

The stadium seats 70k? Say tickets are $35 a piece, you sell out and make 2.45 million. Then you throw in concessions, say every person spends on average $10 a piece (when your selling beer, that number will most likely be MUCH higher) that makes you an additional $700,000. Putting your total on concessions and gate at over 3 million. Anything else you do, in Parking, concessions, and merchandise is profit. You may spend another million on employees but you will do just fine economically.

didn’t Jack Kent Cook pay for FedEx himself? If I recall, it was orginally named after him. Too lazy too look it up.

Anyhow, I loved RFK, it rocked and the way the roof was shaped made the noise just reverbarate through the place

I remember the Skins beat Denver in the Superbowl, they were interviewing MB on one of the local DC channels. He was wearing a cowboy hat and shearling coat, and apprered drunk off his a$$. Someone was trying to pull him off and but would not stop. It was hysterical and also sad.

Minnesota has been playing in an NFL stadium for years, and they couldn’t wait to get out.

Why should they put pressure on Northwestern? The cats never sell out, so pretty much any Michigan fan that wants to go to the game can walk up to the ticket window and probably buy a ticket for $20. Put it in an NFL stadium and you’ll pay that just for parking. Suddenly an afternoon trip that would have cost $100 to cover your ticket, beer, gas, and parking now runs you $200.

PSU will never, never farm out a future home game to an NFL stadium. Not with how much the local economy depends on football games.

= Pat Fitzgerald. He has a decent resume and Duke actually won FOUR games last year.

Of course with his history of Heart issues, Cutliffe could also be Duke’s Randy Walker.

September 19th

as the guy on Waggle Room who compared Tiger’s putting troubles at the 2009 PGA with Old Tom Morris’ putting troubles at the 1860 British Open. THAT’s as old school as one can get.

I meant refuse to allow.

One difference between FedEx and Heinz is that FedEx only has one tenant, the Redskins. Heinz has two, there is a game there almost every weekend in the fall, there are two way more often than there are none.

Pleeease. We don’t have one of those on BSD yet I don’t think.

meanwhile Joe’s up in a comfy well-heated press-box munching on a hotdog and hot cocoa. I am still so friggin angry about that.

periferal circumstqances leading to, just the outcome: the “away” team in reality having an extra home game.

seeing a WWF guy in the airport, while he frantically looks for a pen an paper and runs over to bug the guy for an autograph. Meanwhile PSUWifey hides her face in embarrassment and quickly shuffles the kids to the flight gate.

Randy “Macho Man” Savage in the greater Pittsburgh Airport. Shook his hand…but…the best thing was that “Miss Elizabeth” was with him. She was “hot”.

I don’t even read the Onion.

was that a reply to me? b/c it seems like we’re agreeing here… which would be rare.

Because Glass was the one asking for it, and Curley had already agreed to it?

but seriously, I’m not saying Indiana can’t ever beat PSU, but PSU could probably have played every game so far in Bloomington and still have won them all, and that a move to a “neutral” site (though definitely PSU favored) isn’t going to have this dramatic affect on the outcome. Going down from 14% likely to win a game to 9% likely isn’t much (though I don’t actually know what the spread for this game will be, since it is more than a year away, I’m just going with the assumption that PSU will probably be favored by 2 TDs, and the fact that a 3 point change in “spread”, going from home to neutral, is typically worth ~7% points, and actually gets smaller as the spread gets larger). Of course if you want to say that it is essentially going to be a home game for Penn State, then it is a 6 point swing in the spread, which is more like a 14% chance in odds.

If we want to say the spread would be -14 @ Indiana, but -20 in FedEx, then the odds go from 15% down to practically 0%, which is somewhat significant of a change, but we’re still talking about going from one longshot to a less likely longshot.

If you want to say that it would be 10 in indiana and 16 at FedEx, then that’s a drop from 23% to 12%.

I know these aren’t true predictors, but the trends are there, and it is the best data I have available. I don’t think anyone is arguing that this won’t make it any easier for Indiana to win, but we may as well argue the merits of always playing Temple and Akron, etc at home, when we know that even playing Temple at the Linc we’re still pretty much guaranteed to win.

All I wanted to do was point out the hypocrisy of the average Meatchicken fan.

All the same, I’ll address that: Realistically, how does IU’s move to make more money really affect Michigan? Upsets happen, and they can happen in what amounts to a road game for both teams at least as easily as they can when one team is at home. You don’t think some teams put too much faith in home field advantage? Look at Meatchicken themselves over the last few years.

fix their Basketball flat tire.

Not indiana. and DEFINITELY not PSU.

According to the NCAA, it’s up to the school.

The Big Ten probably has a bylaw on it, that Minnesota was exempt from because they don’t own the Metrodome, and I bet there were some contractual issues that they couldn’t get around.

But Johnstown was “pop”

The Eastern divide goes between those two metropoli and to me that is the geographically the beginning of the midwest, if not culturally.

as an away game is an away game, pretty much no matter how far away.

What concerns me is that as a PSU fan, I have to spend twice as much money on gas, and twice as much time travelling, as pretty much any other Big 10 fan other than Minnesota, and to some extent Iowa.

I remember that wind tunnel when I lived in East. It made winter suck even more than it did.

but oh, the humanity!

Almost since the league started they’ve been talking about opening up new markets. Now, 16 years later, they’ve finally done something to try. Your point about Ohio State and Michigan haveing more alumni in the midwest than us is true and well taken.

But it sure is shit ain’t Ohio State and Michigan that are going to open up NYC and DC for the Big Ten. That my friends is Penn State’s job. That’s where our alumni are. If you want to showcase B10 football in new markets, let’s do it.

The rote midwestern focus of the Big Ten is frustrating as hell. They want new markets, but they’ve had the premier eastern school in the league for almost 20 years now and what do they do to capatilize on it? Nothing, they drag our asses to Chicago and Indianpolis for every tournament, and every meeting. You’re telling me that they can’t have the basketball tournament in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh once every ten years or so? Or OMG play a neutral site football game in NYC or DC?

The execution on this Indiana thing is poor, but it’s not a terrible idea. And it’s about damn time.

People scoff at the idea of this DC game opening up a new recruiting area for Indiana. But it’s really not a bad idea for them. In Bloomington they have to fight tooth and nail just for the local talent. With in state schools Purdue and Notre Dame, and then bordering state schools like Michigan, Ohio State, Illinois, Northwestern, and even Louisville it’s a lot of competition. I think getting outside of that footprint to plant some seeds nationally can only help them.

If I’m Lynch I’m on the phone this week making some calls to some high school football coaches in Maryland and Virginia trying to identify some big shot juniors I can invite to the PSU game in 2010.

I wouldn’t mind having Maryland in the conference, but a rivalry game with them would excite me as much as our “rivalry game” with MSU excites me.

would be nice to have another school on the ‘outside’ out here with us and make the rest of the comfy other schools have to do some traveling. I have always liked that the school has, from what I can remember, a clean program with good solid academics. Probably never happen but I would take them over many other schools

Although WVU would probably have won the Big 10 four years in a row with Pat White.

Kudos for the totally absurd and baseless statement. Maybe in 2007. Maybe. We would have beaten WVU in ’05 and ’08. OSU or UM would have beaten them in ’06.

P.S. your baseless statement does not negate the fact that the Big Ten doesn’t have to play on Thursday nights.