Why does the Heisman matter?

by PSUmob on Aug 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT

As far as I can tell, none of us really care about the Heisman (the obvious exception of course). And that might be because of the fact the Penn State isn't really the type of program that generates a lot of Heisman buzz. Maybe if we were USC, or Miami (of old) or whoever, as a fanbase we'd care a lot more.

But when even TWWL themselves say that it's a popularity contest, how can anyone take it seriously anymore? Barring any sort of crazy unforeseen circumstance, it will be Tebow. And if not him, then one of the Big12 qbs. And EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS THIS. There's no suspense, and the season hasn't even started yet. I just don't understand why it's considered a great award anymore.

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Yeah, I kind of get more satisfaction...

Out of seeing us getting Butkus and Bednarik awards.

by Spats on Aug 27, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions

The Heisman matters

to high school recruits

How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?

by psupride on Aug 27, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions

Here's a noodle-tickler

So the Heisman is a popularity contest, and most of NCAAF reporting is based on popularity and the cult of personality. In fact if popularity won you games USC would be 10 time NC. But popularity doesn’t win you games, it just wins you the Heisman. The funny part is, the Heisman winner almost never wins their bowl game. See this (and add 1 to the loss column in all the stats since Bradford fell victim to the curse after the article was written)

The part that I like is that Joe’s got the best bowl wins of anyone, and has coached the least Heismans of any “great” coach. This is not by chance.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Aug 27, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs

I'm proud that PSU has held the tradition

of making Heisman winners cry in their bowl games.

by dawsonPSU10 on Aug 27, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, really

We make most people cry in bowl games.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

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by Roland86 on Aug 27, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions

tee hee hee

Stop! My noodle tickles….

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by jtothep on Aug 28, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions

A M E N

brutha!

Though none of us will be complaining when the next PSU player earns it!

I’ll appreciate team unity, no “issues”, a packed stadium, plain uni’s, THE White-Out, and a NC over a singular award, compiled largely of media bias!

/ step of soap-box

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by BlueWhiteLife on Aug 27, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah, I pretty much stopped caring about "voted" awards a while ago

it is nice when PSU players win them, but meh. For pretty much every popular award there’s usually someone out there that’s actually better, but with less hype. I’m kinda sick how before the season has even started we can pretty much already predict who will be sitting up on stage during the Heisman Trophy presentation.

by The JuggerNitt on Aug 27, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions

The biggest problem with the Heisman

… is that it bears no resemblance to what it claims to be. If it were actually “most outstanding player”, you’d think more than five non-QB, non-RB players would have won it in 74 years.

(There’s also the whole bit about it always going to some who plays for a top three team. Granted, an outstanding player is probably going to make his team as a whole good, and a higher proportion of outstanding players will be on the best teams, but you can often make a case for a player from a mid-teens-ranked team that would be utterly atrocious without him.)

by SpartanDan on Aug 27, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions

Heisman

I agree. That is why you see clowns like Gino Torretta, Danny Wuerffel, and Ty Detmer win it when Marshall Faulk, Jake Plummer, and Rocket Ismail would have been the better choice those years. The Heisman voters are a joke. They are about as bad as the idiots who vote for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

by PABroncofan on Aug 29, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions