Herbie Is A Closet PSU Fan

by Tim Aydin on Aug 31, 2009 1:49 PM EDT

Kirk Herbstreit released his 9th annual "Herbie Awards" today. Unlike every other media pundit and their dog who's picking OSU to win the Big Ten, Herbie has PSU as his champ along with MSU as a sleeper, once again proving my theory that Herbie is a closet PSU fan. And yes, he still thinks we're the #1 student section in the country, hands-down

Herbie also lists Tom Bradley as one of his Top 5 "Head Coaches In Waiting" and Evan Royster as one of his "Rodney Dangerfields" (i.e. players who "don't get enough respect"), has Odrick and Wisniewski on his "All-America Team" and also has Lee and Bowman mentioned for his "Top Inside and Outside Linebackers" respectively. Interestingly enough though, he doesn't have Clark listed on his "Top Dual Threat QBs" list whereas guys like Kansas' Todd Reesing and Baylor's Robert Griffin III make that list.

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I don't think Clark is a dual threat QB either

I did starting last season because of the alamo bowl and the oregon game, but as time went on he seemed to play more and more like a regular (single threat?) QB with great movement and escapeability. Not a threat to run half the time, just a threat to buy more time and punish you if you give hime 20 yards of open space in front of him.

And yes, I do think Herbie is a closet PSU fan.

by NittanySeaLion on Aug 31, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah

To be blunt, Clark is black and athletic and plays QB, so he will be considered to be a “dual threat” by some. I agree with what you said. I think of him as a guy who is not an elite runner, and prefers to always pass, but still can hurt you in short yardage situations. I think his running ability comes more from just his sheer size and strength than anything else. Maybe a little more Ben Roethlisberger and a little less Randall Cunningham. Just a guy with great escapability.

So uhhhh he is a well rounded QB? That sounds right. Why do guys always have to fit certain molds or labels, it is kind of annoying.

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by Roland86 on Aug 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions

He did run for 10 TDs last season

And he is more than mobile, he carries guys with him before he gets tackled most of the time. Just because our offense didn’t revolve around his running abilities doesn’t mean he can’ t be considered a dual threat. Just my 2 cents.

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by psu on Aug 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Colt McCoy ran for 11 (I think)...

And people don’t consider him a dual-threat QB.

I actually like to see a Clark-McCoy foot race. I bet McCoy’s faster.

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by psuwxman on Sep 1, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Herbie Does

He has Colt as the #2 Dual-Threat QB. But it’s kind of a vague term because you can apply it to any QB that’s athletic/fast/has more than 5 rush TDS. IMO, Clark is a dual threat. The way I see it if I was game planning for PSU am I worried that Clark is going to take off when things break down in the pocket or that they may have a couple designed runs for him? I think the answer is yes so he’s a dual threat.

by jigalion on Sep 1, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions

I knew Clark was a dual threat during the Wiscy game, when he bulled through two defenders and started the legend of the D.C. 17 fist pump.

Oh, and when he threw back across his body for a huge gain later on, which led to BSD Mike attempting to become pregnant with Clark’s children.

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by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Agreed

I like the “suspicion” though that he will bring to the field. The D coaches and D’s will mostly be looking for him to run – ok! – And he continues to pass / effectively run the SpreadHD…UNTIL he see’s the opp on a D misscue/formation – and then he makes you PAY FOR IT with his legs!

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by BlueWhiteLife on Aug 31, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Clark v McNabb

Anyone else think Clark plays similar to McNabb, not the college version that ran the option at SU and ran by people, the current day prefer to pass but ill beat you running if i have to McNabb. Also size wise.

by PSUgavemeAnAlcoholproblem on Aug 31, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Donny can't run anymore...dude is about as fast as Byron Leftwich...

I know that is a lie…but he doesn’t run much at all anymore.

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by QBsneak12 on Aug 31, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

He reminds me more of Roethlisberger

Big. Strong. Plays fast, even if he isn’t particularly fast. Keeps plays alive with his feet, makes plays downfield after doing so.

It could just be the offense, what the Eagles do is really sophisticated, the Steelers much less so.

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by jesse. on Aug 31, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Of course

Roethlisberger is three inches taller than both Clark and McNabb, but suprisingly (and only according to team websites) pretty much the same weight as McNabb, and 8 pounds heavier than Clark.

I do think that McNabb’s weight gain has been a late career effort to stay alive, and, as noted above, cost him a lot of his mobility.

I have to think that based on what Clark did just over the offseason, that with a professional trainer like Maybe had, he will be a 240 pound killing machine by the time the NFL combine rolls around next spring.

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by jesse. on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Anybody that assumes that a QB is a good runner just because he's black,

needs to be shown some Wally Richardson footage.

by Brett Brown on Sep 2, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions

The ’95 jNW game = much fun.

Arrrg.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 2, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions

and Byron Leftwich

slower than mud

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by QBsneak12 on Sep 2, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions

sweet son of a mothers lover, don’t use the color card. He is considered a dual threat by some, because compared to #14, he is a dual threat. He can run with the ball more than most QB’s, take a hit, keep on running, and finish it off with an ever so sweeeeeet fist pump!!

by MrBrianPSU on Sep 2, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Correction… best FOOTBALL student section. We have a-ways to go in the roundball department. ;-)

by PennStateBasketball on Aug 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions

We're Not Bad Though...

We’re bigger than Pitt’s “Zoo”

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by Adam Bittner on Aug 31, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Herbie's cool

I’ve never seen OSU bias out of him and he’s always given PSU respect.

by PSUisMyHeart on Aug 31, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions

Dual Threat....Game Manager..."Gun Slinger"

The labels the media places on QBs gets funnier every year. But typically it has a racist twist….for example….

I’ve heard Brett Favre and Jay Cutler called “gun slingers” because of the risks they take down field and how hard they throw. In the same breath, they describe Donovan McNabb as inaccurate and takes too many risks…

They need to drop the labels because plenty of kids are dual threat now a days because they aren’t forced to play CB, RB, or WR.

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by QBsneak12 on Aug 31, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions

Herbie is generally

one of the most even-handed analysts, I like him more than just about any other college pundit.

by Joe 96alum on Aug 31, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions

Completely agree

by GreatScawt on Aug 31, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Happy Hour Valley

is a closet Herbie fan. Don’t lie, you love you some herbstreit. And please, no comments about the gelled hair. You aren’t fooling anyone. You’re jealous. You’d gel your pubes with hot kitchen grease if it meant taking Kirk Herbstreit’s job for 15 minutes.

And, btw, you think you’re jealous? How do you think other former mediocre Ohio State quarterbacks feel? How zuggin pissed would you be if you were Craig Krenzel? While Herbstreit is out smashing on hot Big-12 puss, you’re sitting at home jerking it to the 2002 calendar year and having wet dreams about phantom pass interference calls.

/here end with the biting, from this glorious source.

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by jtothep on Aug 31, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Classic jtot

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Aug 31, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Here at BSD, we always offer alternate viewpoints

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMvjADmxhVw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbuckeyefansonly%2Ecom%2Fnotcalled%2Ehtml&feature=player_embedded

(I’m sure you’ll like the Dennis Dodd mentions)

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by ReadingRambler on Aug 31, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions

smashing on hot Big-12 puss

That is awesome, especially when you realize he’s married with that awful brood of kids he brings out on Gameday every now and then (does anyone else find it awkward when one of the kids sits on Corso’s lap???). I can Herbie