Rounding Up, Week Two: All In!
by Run Up The Score on Sep 14, 2009 10:23 PM EDT
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PrintYour Big Ten happenings, week two:
Michigan 38, Notre Dame 34 -- "All In!" was RichRod's rallying cry prior to the season, and now he's officially playing with house money. Want more poker analogies? MGoBlog has 'em:
To really discuss what's wrong with Weis I have to dig into the poker metaphors. If Carr was a weak-tight calling station—a guy who doesn't take many risks and can be easily dissuaded from taking them—Weis is a loose-aggressive donkey—a guy who just bets and bets and bets and rides it. The LAG (loose-aggressive) is a better player, much tougher to win against, but is prone to huge, fatal mistakes. So the problem with that second-and-ten bomb was not that Weis threw, it's the sort of throw he called for. Running or whatever strips Michigan of its timeouts and has relatively little value compared to a first down. A first down just about ends the game. I had a perpetual frustration with Carr's playcalling in similar situations because it was run run run punt almost without fail, or possibly run run third and ten pass punt. So a slant or a hitch or some sort of high-percentage pass that can break for a first down is a great call.
The bomb is going all in with a middle pair after you get a couple overs on the flop. (I was in the World Series of Poker once!!!) It might work. But if it does, it's not because you're a good poker player.
Pretty much. A glorified jump ball is not exactly the smartest play call in that situation, but Charles is a Genius, and I know this because I've only heard it approximately 39,285 times since he was hired in South Bend. The cold reality is that he's a subpar head coach with a penchant for coming up lame in crucial situations and losing to Syracuse. But, Genius.
A few things about that game, which was a complete joy to watch from beginning to end. No, there wasn't a hell of a lot of defense being played -- it felt like Armando Allen ran for 250 yards (it was actually 21 rushes for 139 yards), and Emu threw for 335 yards and 3 TD's. Yes, like it or not, Tate Forcier is pretty good. He looks like he's about 165 pounds, but the kid has a pair of grapefruits and can do most of what Rodriguez's offense requires. It's only two games, but you would not be completely unreasonable to start worrying about Michigan as Penn State's main competition in the conference.
Southern Cal 18, Ohio State 15 -- Based on the almost-certain fact that Tressel v. Paterno will degenerate into one of those defensive, 13-10 type battles, we have to assume that Ohio State remains a tough out in Happy Valley. But really, even if it only lasts one week, how fun is it to see Ohio State fans crying about Terrelle Pryor's lack of progress as a passer and Jim Tressel being a guy who should've stayed in 1-AA?
USC's offense basically scored 11 points on Ohio State, discounting Pryor's mind-blowing interception that was returned to the OSU 2 yard line in the first quarter. They held a freshman quarterback to 14-for-31, picked him off once, and the Big Ten Preseason Offensive Player Of The Year couldn't outscore him. Maybe it's time to stop this ridiculous "LeBron In Cleats" talk about Pryor, hmm?
As for Tressel, it was just about his worst hour as Ohio State's head coach. Awful coaching strategy aside, have you ever seen a coach with such a tiny pair of glass balls? An 18-yard field goal, when USC's offense had been held to ZERO YARDS ON TEN PLAYS to that point? SRSLY?
Central Michigan 29, Michigan State 27 -- Oh, Sparty. Sparty, Sparty, Sparty. You suck so much. How much?
Response to Central Michigan @ Michigan State 9-12-09 (via WatchIFBored)
Iowa 35, Iowa State 3 -- There's nothing about a close call against a FCS team that a step down in competition can't fix. For Iowa, that's a date against the Suckclones. Tyler Sash, who I'm pretty sure never played football before Saturday, picked off three passes and Iowa took home the Cy-Hawk Trophy.
Oregon 38, Purdue 36 -- So, Purdue may not actually be that terrible after all. A blocked extra point in the 4th quarter led to the Boilers' eventual demise, as they couldn't convert a subsequent two-point conversion with one minute left in the game. Purdue turned the ball over three times, but two of them were returned for touchdowns. Still, progress in West Lafayette.
Wisconsin 34, Fresno State 31 (2OT) -- Gritty performance by the Badgers, who had been hit with a team-wide flu outbreak during the week. Wisconsin faced 14-0 and 21-7 deficits in the first half, fought back, and took advantage of a double-overtime interception by safety Chris Maragos. From there, it was five consecutive John Clay carries, 22 yard field goal, please drive home safely.
Northwestern 27, Eastern Michigan 24 -- A near-disaster for the Wildcats, who led 21-0 early, as EMU (led by former Michigan defensive coordinator Ron English) roared back to tie the game at 24 with 2:40 remaining. NU's Stefan Demos nailed a 49 yard field goal on the last play of the game to avoid the upset.
Minnesota 20, Air Force 13 -- Yeah, yeah, Minnesota won, but what in the hell are these things?
There's no use trying to out-ugly Oregon, guys. They'll just add feathers, then wings, then glitter. Just let it go.
Illinois 45, Illinois State 17; Indiana 23, Western Michigan 19 -- Nope. Don't care.
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WTF, RUTS
Post my picture and then don’t give credit where credit is due? It’s like you’re turning into Mr. Rosewater…
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 14, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
I need that DEFEAT pic poster size and framed
by PSUgavemeAnAlcoholproblem on Sep 15, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
For a fee, you can get one from the despair.com website
I don’t work there so can’t count this as shameless advertising
by Mr. Rosewater on Sep 15, 2009 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Have you read my book, "A Million Tiny Pieces"?
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by Run Up The Score on Sep 15, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
No, but I have read your book, "Dreams from my Mother"
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
"They're still Michigan"
I have a friend (PSU fan) who likes to say that whenever anyone dismisses Michigan’s chances against Penn State. A few hours after Michigan lost to App State, I was talking to him about how great it would be to go into the Big House and destroy them (I was going to that game) and how they would be our first whipping boy on the road to the national title that year; he said “They’re still Michigan” and I just laughed. That moment is forever burned into my mind.
I’ve been worrying about the Mich. game for a while now. No matter how bad Michigan is, a trip to the Big House is always something to be worried about. They’re still Michigan. (Btw, I’m not saying they’ll beat us. We could see a repeat of last year. Who knows? But they’re never a team you want to sleep on.)
Yeah, Michigan is a threat as an away game
But I stay hopeful. We’re not going to overlook them with Clark and Lee as leaders. I think, like winning in Columbus last year, Clark is going to lead this team into there wanting to leave PSU with wins of three of the most hostile stadiums in the Big Ten. Of course that’s barring any refs driving from their home in Ann Arbor to referee the game…again.
However, right now, I looked at their schedule, and the high and hype they’re riding on right now may be crushed before they play us. They play at Michigan State and at Iowa before they play us. And it would be great to see their over-confidence in themselves be ruined by Eastern Mich. or Indiana (their next two games). Not only would that prove they’re not what they’re being made out to be, it would also make ND look even more overrated than they were in the first place.
And a loss to Delaware State would be a gift from the almighty Zug himself.
by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 14, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point on the refs
Something else we always have to deal with. Beating Michigan means beating the refs, no matter who you are and no matter where you play them (if it’s officiated by the Big11Ten).
I hope you’re right about everything else though…
by PSUMark2008 on Sep 14, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
And
Lee’s never beaten Michigan… trust me, there is not a single guy in that locker room who won’t be playing for Sean Lee that day
Coaching
Aside from QB14, it was not necessarily the players who had as much a hand in the recent defeats up there, as much as it was the coaching.
In 2005, they sent Kevin Kelly out there 2 or 3 times in the first half on fourth and short. The result was a missed field goal both times. A converted fourth down could have led to 7 or, at worst, a closer attempt for Kelly.
In 2007, App State and Oregon exposed Michigan’s vulnerability to the spread, but we went in there with the same tired game plan. Granted, we didn’t have an athletic QB like App State and Oregon, but we could have added some wrinkles to spread the defense out. Instead, the App State and Oregon blueprints were ignored.
Fake statue of liberty
is still one of my favorite college football moments of all time.
Here is the set-up, and then the money play here.
Dixon getting hurt that year sucked.
BSD
"The App State and Oregon blueprints were ignored"
And, yet, if Morelli hadn’t thrown a miserable pass when Butler was wide open in the endzone on a slant, it would have been a closer game.
Paternoball worked, IMO, in that case. The only thing missing was execution.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
That is the problem
Paterno/Tressel/Lloydball requires perfect execution. PSU unnecessarily slimmed down their margin of error against UM that year, and it cost them the game.
Eh
“Granted, we didn’t have an athletic QB like App State and Oregon”
Now this point may be moot, but I believe that we had DC17 sitting on the bench
by Bob Sacamano on Sep 15, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Daryll Clark is not the same stlye of QB as Dennis Dixon or whoever Appy State had
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
True
But if he plays the whole game, PSU wins by 20.
I disagree
Clark is NOT a zone read QB.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps
Although I’m sure he ran it some against A&M. Point is, he is mobile, and mobile QBs have always torn up Michigan’s D. QBs we do well against: slow pocket passers, particularly if they can be described as a braindead Italian version of Vanilla Ice.
Allright, I'll cede an argument about the effects of a mobile quarterback on Michigan to a Michigan fan
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
But he did.
Florida hung 5 touchdowns on Michigan’s defense.
Michigan had a better offense that day, so they won.
Conversation
I had nearly that exact conversation with a friend a bit after the Appy State game too. I hated that I was right more than ever with that. I Zugging hate them for that.
by PSUisMyHeart on Sep 15, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Michigan
They are vastly improved, but I wouldn’t put them ahead of Ohio State (although I think Tressel’s streak against Michigan is looking pretty shaky right now), and I’m not sure if I’d put them ahead of Iowa (what a game that will be).
I’m still not sure if Michigan can stop anybody. ND’s WRs were downright owning UM’s corners at points. We can score on them.
If I was asked right now to provide a prediction of the final score, I’d go with PSU 31-24 or so. But it will be a much scarier game than any of us want to see.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 14, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions
I agree, they're still not on the Arm Punter level yet
So I don’t see a W against Tressel quite yet. Let’s see how they perform against a team with a decent defense (i.e. NOT ND) before we really hit the panic button. Right now they’re on high alert on PSUs radar, but it’s not going to be impossible by any means to get out of Ann Arbor with a win.
by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 14, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
we are 1-2 years away from being a serious threat in the Big10. I’m still standing by PSU winning it, OSU 2nd and M or Iowa 3rd.
Looking forward to The PSU/Iowa game.
Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast
for it is a human number its number is six hundred and forty two.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Sep 15, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Iowa/Um
Should be interesting, from what I can tell it’s their first test against a defense, although I guess that depends on what you think of MSU.
BSD
The only thing that could possibly save MSU is the home crowd. I mean, that Dantonio-coached D let CMU back in it.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW
Poz broke his arm again.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." -Joe Paterno
only out for a couple weeks
zug forbid he lose another season…
We decide when you hear the snap count...
Some things will never change...
Perhaps you should wait until Big Ten play before you start bragging?
(For the record, I called this “upset” of the Hyped Irish months ago)
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by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully, once again, Greg Robinson will find a way to make Michigan’s defense (the snowball) better (catch on fire) before they get torched anymore.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I made my point clear enough
The main point of Mike’s post appeared to be mocking RichRod for his selection of Greg Robinson (the evidence appears to show he is a terrible defensive coach) as DC. Your win over Notre Dame did not do anything to disprove Mike’s point.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps
This is the man you choose to lead your defense. Good luck with that, Michigan. I hate to say it, but I told you Rich Rodriguez was going to be a disaster. Let’s review.
He’s pissed off prominent alumni. He’s run off his star players. 2009 was a failure of historic proportions for the Maize and Blue. He let his defensive coordinator take the fall for the dismal 3-9 season, even though we all know it was the offense that sucked. To date they’ve had eight kids decommit from their verbal agreements and there are possibly more on the way.
I know some Michigan fans are still keeping the faith. They still believe that Rich Rodriguez is the man to turn around their program and restore them at the top. But as an objective observer looking in from the outside, I see just one thing.
That’s really the part I’m referring too. Also, yeah, we got shredded in the air. We have 3 new starters (Sophs) in the secondary, and ND has Floyd and Tate, with Jimmah(!) throwing to them. They gashed us on the ground too, but we did put up enough points to win. I think they will be the best offense we face, and hopefully we’ll have it cleaned up by the time PSU comes to town.
Heck, ND might put up a couple first downs against USC this year. Who knows?
I'm not going to get into an internet BLOGWAR (Mike's a big boy)...
But my point still stands. Greg Robinson has done nothing to prove himself a competent defensive coordinator.
Respectfully,
Goodnight
P.S. For Zug’s sake, don’t lose to Indiana.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
But my point still stands. Greg Robinson has done nothing to prove himself a competent defensive coordinator yet.
I forgot to include that.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
Not going to get into a defense of GERG b/c I’m still not sure how I feel about him. But the guy is something like 8-0 in Bowl Games and Super Bowls as a DC, precisely the type of situation where preparation and scheme are increasingly important.
So, he has done more than me or you in terms of proving himself a competent DC.
When he was succesful in Denver, it was because he had a talented roster. When he was in Kansas City he was not very good (Just ask user Cairo), and he was a total disaster in Syracuse (his excuse for that was a weak roster, but, um, that was mostly his fault).
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Have I not said this before?
He has not really done anything to prove himself a competent defensive coach yet.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I don't know...
He seemed to do a pretty decent job at Texas.
You guys can post all the pictures of your skill players you want, I honestly think that the ND O is the real deal (for once) and I think the season will bear that out.
Nobody of the Maize n Blue persuasion is claiming anything about the D yet, but GERG has brought back something we’ve been missing for a long time: competent tackling.
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Great Logic
It is fairly obvious to me that PSU has a talented roster, particularly on D. So, I guess that Bradley guy has also done nothing to prove himself competent. Same for Sandusky, I suppose.
*retching*
GERGball and the Chiefs 3-2 defense. 3-2 because it was “32nd” in every defensive statistical category.
Granted, it’s not like he allowed 500 yards to the Ravens like this years team. bangs head
Practice
Lots of practice.
Oh, and taking less than half as much time to rebuild as PSU, apparently.
Just a minute there...
As the Wolf says, “Let’s not start sucking each other’s….just yet.” A win over ND was nice, but you ain’t back yet.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 15, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree
I just think it is an odd question to ask given the 4 out of 5 losing seasons earlier this decade. Glass houses and all.
I agree...
people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, unless they are accurate.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 15, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny...
comming from the program that has 1/2 a MNC in the last 60 years, but yes the early part of the decade was not good. From your prespective, does it really matter if you lose yet again to tO$U?
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 15, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
It's a shame we didn't get to play you for two years in that part of the decade...
that percentage I quoted would be even lower.
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meh
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 15, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
C'mon man
You got to do better than bringing up our record in the early part of the decade. None of these players were on those teams. PSU runs a completely different offense now. It’s apples and oranges, man. You sound like a Pitt fan.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
But Mike
how can you just dismiss something that happened 9 years ago? I mean if there’s one thing we know about 2009, it’s that the PSU record from 2001 is important.
BSD
Missed the boat fellas...
That number is what you get when you’re 4 for 14…
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Except
as you guys continue to ignore, we’re 3-1 against everybody that isn’t Lloyd Carr. Are you planning on bringing him back?
"far less knowledgeable than the average poster here"
2-1
1994
2008
Give the poor guys a break
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
True Story
UM has never lost to a PSU team coached by someone other than Paterno.
True story
Michigan has less national championsips than Penn State has under Paterno.
That’s just as relevant.
But, hey, you were really awesome during World War 1, I guess.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Which becomes important
the second Joe Paterno doesn’t coach Penn State anymore.
"far less knowledgeable than the average poster here"
Yeah really
Two out of the last four conference championships…means nothing.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Carr is no longer Head coach
Carr owned Penn State. Michigan doesn’t. This will be proven this year.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Means a lot to me
That is the level UM needs to get back to as a program.
C'mon man
You got to do better than bringing up our record from last year. We didn’t have a functional QB. UM effectively runs a completely different offense now. It’s apples and oranges, man. You sound like a Pitt fan.
It's all they've got...
PSU schallacked us for a half last year, we can at least give them that.
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I guess we all just find it funny
that you all were mum for 18 months, win one game against a (as always) over-ranked Notre Dame team and all of the sudden it’s like it hasn’t been five years since you won the league.
BSD
They're Michigan fans
What do you expect?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
You expect us to brag about our first real win in two years that came over an incredibly over-hyped team?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of which
I find it borish that blogger would come on another rival blog to talk trash. I expect rival fans to go trolling, but not bloggers. I like to think we hold each other to a higher standard than that. If you want to call us out, grow some balls and put it on your front page where everyone can read it. Don’t be a troll.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
I quote
PSU schallacked us for a half last year, we can at least give them that. – SCM
And 1 win in the last 12 years means everything? – SCM
Like 28.6% of the time? – SCM
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Oh I'm sorry
Allow me to apologize thoroughly for QUOTING STATS.
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Hey
Your place your rules, but uh, show me where any of that was in any way out of line on this site?
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That's ok
You can have this thread. But I still think it’s in poor taste for a blogger to go on a rival blog to instigate a fight.
Again, grow some balls and do a front page post if you want to call us out.
Or go ahead and have at it here if that’s the way you operate. But I’m done.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Here's a stat for you:
Michigan without Carr: 1-2 vs. Penn State.
Times are changing, buddy. Paterno doesn’t have the same “always throw rock” complex he had when he was going against Carr.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
That's true
But some of those “rock vs rock” matchups lead to some epic clashes no?
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Livin the past, buddy. Livin in the past.
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by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Was not my intention...
Just saying that both teams were known for being conservative and it still lead to some pretty good games.
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Sorry
Internet pissing contests tend to lead to such misunderstandings.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry...
But that is the absolute lamest stat I have EVER heard. You are basically saying that you are 1 game over .500 with a win against the worst Michigan team of all time during a coaching/system change… Really? REALLY???
Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast
for it is a human number its number is six hundred and forty two.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Sep 15, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Really
Coach Carr is no longer in charge of Michigan.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Go ahead and puff out your chest
You beat a ranked team. Gradulations.
You guys beat a top 10 team last year too, didn’t you?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Lot's of practice, huh?
Like, more than 20 hours per week would you say?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 15, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
October 24th is a long, long ways off
But we certainly know more about Michigan than we do about Penn State right now. That ND offense is the real deal by the way, we won’t play a team with more weapons the rest of the year.
I haven’t gotten a chance to see more than a few highlights of the Nittany Lions thus far this season, so permit me a question or two if you will. How much concern over the sputtering nature of the Penn State rushing game at this point? Purely due to the O-line? Scheme issue? I’ve always been impressed with Royster, but figured the O-line would take some time heading into this year…
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You're right
Notre Dame obviously has the most weapons of any team you’ll see this year.
Absolutely
Bar none
I can’t think of a single guy faster than any of Notre Dame’s players
And Penn State has no receivers either:
by AdamShell on Sep 15, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And the ND defense
it’s just
I mean they are relentless
probably not a single team on the Um schedule
That can stop RR this year.
BSD
by KevinHD on Sep 15, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Post all the pics you want
I don’t recall saying a word about the ND defense. I’m not backing down from what I said about the O though, who in the Big 10 has a better O-line? Better receivers than Floyd and Tate? I think you’ll see it bear out over the course of the year that for the first time in a looong time, this ND team is actually halfway decent.
But hey, if posting pics of the 94th ranked rushing O in the nation makes you feel better, post away.
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and the 13th ranked passing game. But why look at the whole picture when half the story makes more sense.
BSD
You know, if you don’t count the first two games, Michigan only lost two games in ‘07. That’s a better record than PSU in that year.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
My god
How did Hoyer survive that with his left arm still attached to his shoulder?
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Hey didn't, Bowman killed him
A shame, really. Hoyer had years of life to live.
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by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Mixed bag.
Some of it due to defenses stacking the LOS. Some due to whiffed blocks. Some due to it’s just so damn easy throwing the ball right now.
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by Run Up The Score on Sep 15, 2009 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions
You don't remember Tyler Sash?
From the November 10, 2008 Big Ten Players of the Week
DEFENSE: Tyler Sash, Iowa, FR, S, Oskaloosa, Iowa/Oskaloosa
Sash registered eight tackles and a crucial interception to set up Iowa’s final drive for a game-winning field goal to hand nationally ranked Penn State its first loss. The freshman safety, who had four solo stops, was part of a Hawkeyes defense that held the Nittany Lions attack to only 23 points and 289 total yards. PSU entered the game leading the Big Ten in both categories, ranking eighth in the country with 41.8 points per contest and 11th nationally with 459.8 yards per outing. Penn State drove inside Iowa’s 20-yard line on five occasions but was limited to field goals on three of those trips. After the hosts pulled within 23-21 in the fourth quarter, PSU drove to the Hawkeyes’ 37-yard line before Sash picked off a pass at the 15-yard line and returned it 14 yards. Iowa then drove down the field to set up the game-winning field goal with only one second on the clock. Sash collects the first weekly award of his career.
The Rivalry, Esq.
The quintessential Big Ten smoking room.
What game are they talking about?
I don’t remember anything of the sort happening last season.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.
That game was clearly against the Penn Quakers.
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by Run Up The Score on Sep 15, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey fellas
Not to interrupt the pissing contest with the michigan boys, and it is strange how pleased they are with the first significant win since Florida, but we introduced a new offense against the Cyclones. You might not be able to game-plan anymore by looking at the baseball score game. It sorta worked.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
I keep telling everyone here...
Not to underestimate Iowa.
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by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
wearing MY white shirt, too
in my living room. it works, i swear.
"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who
you back in the US of A?
my friend, who I think was in the same unit is free as of today/tomorrow I think
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 15, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i am indeed home, thanks
got in about a week ago. your friend was probably in a different battalion—we staggered movement back. looking forward to wasting huge amounts of time on here in the VERY near future. BSD, you complete me.
"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who
Additionally,
Is it true what I keep hearing about Norm Parker running a new front against the spread?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
It's impossible to say unless you have a press box or end zone view, and I was watching the little screen.
But we were in a formation I’ve never seen before, a geometric 4-5-2, with 5 LBs and robbers in a line three yards off the LOS, sideline to sideline.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Neat-o
So much for the talk about Iowa only running cover 2 out of a 4-3.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Non-Paki Ball is not really a new offense.
It’s just the removal of a non-sucky offense.
And our playbook has been all of three pages in the opening weeks. You’ll get to see the Spread HD cover to cover in two weeks.
I tried.
No, we came out in a new offense. But I’m not going to tell you what it was, now. Because you made fun of Paki.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
He could, you know, just read your fanpost on BHGP...
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Can he read Iowan?
Like, we use compound sentences and everything. Subjunctive, semi-colons….
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Not everyone can be the perfect person in the world
Everyone does.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, anyway,
I saw the most interesting offensive game-planning decision (for Iowa, and I know the bar there is pretty low) since Ferentz arrived and introduced the Big Ten to zone blocking. It makes sense, too, because they are committed to taking NFL schemes down to the NCAA; this is really their expertise and their recruiting pitch. (E.g., if you are a fullback or NFL-style tight end, the Big Ten is down to three or four teams where you can go.)
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Your post was intriguing
As I was totally baffled when I saw Stanzi lined up in a no-back set. Good to see there’s plan to it.
Kick Arizona’s ass this week.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Very much so.
Since I live in Missouri, so it’s similar to our north Missouri dialect. If I have any questions I just hang around the strip club in Hamburg, Iowa and pick up the lingo.
The thing about the spread
is that it’s just not a deep-ball offense. So if you dog the QB successfully (assignment football) and get the support over the middle, correct me if I’m wrong, but a lot of balls get tipped up into the air for … Tyler Sash.
This of course doesn’t work against Michigan, because Michigan is very very special.
I don’t really care what happens with PSU this year (which is a good thing), but the home night game against Michigan should be a dreadful experience for their dinky little freshman QB.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
When was the last time Iowa played Michigan at night?
’85?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think the '85 was a night game was it?
That was the 1 v 2 matchup where Iowa won with a last second FG right?
GO BLUE! http://www.maizenbrew.com/
Yes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqfrbuAgvY
I guess you’re right. I think it ended at night.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Never
The ’85 game was late afternoon and ended after dark.
Iowa’s only played a handful of home games at night. Miami in the early ’90s. Northern Illinois in ’99. Iowa State in ’02. Arizona State in ’03. Ohio State in ’06. Syracuse in ’07.
The Rivalry, Esq.
The quintessential Big Ten smoking room.
by Bama Hawkeye on Sep 15, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
man, that Northern Illinois night game must have really been rocking ;-)
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 15, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I was there.
it was not…
It was Kirk’s first year. The team went 1-10. This was the 1. They put it at night, because the game wasn’t picked up for TV, and they thought it would drum up more interest.
The Rivalry, Esq.
The quintessential Big Ten smoking room.
by Bama Hawkeye on Sep 15, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, the Michigan fans just came out of the woodwork.
Welcome back, UM fans. Glad to see you’re not all out of love and that your investment in this thing called Big Ten football hasn’t diminished. Speaking of investment, we really haven’t discussed your coaches real estate shenanigans.
To me, it appears that RichRod treats investing in real estate like he treats investing in 18-year old kids that believe in the Michigan Way—a stumbling block on his road to personal self-glorification. Oh, look… more transfers.
I also saw that oh so emotional press conference. I need to check Thomas Cook to see what the currency conversion rate is from Crocodile Tears to US Dollars. Maybe he can use that to pay off his investors, because the rest of us aren’t buying a damn thing with that.
I'm only good for one trash talk post though.
If I continue my point gets diluted and I sound like an arrogant SOB.
I was about to compare you to a Michigan fan for that
Then I realized that the interwebs is no place for faceless namecalling.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
What I find funny:
When one Michigan fan comments, two or three others seem to appear shortly afterwards.
I think it’s all a nefarious plot by Brian Cook to sign up as many screennames as possible.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think so
It’s not Cook’s style. He would have bombarded us with charts. This has the WLA written all over it. Look up and you see they were the ones who started it all.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
True
And if the charts don’t work, he goes to the post-modern irony.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Come on, Mike
A writer on our site left 2 comments, and didn’t have this fight to you. Why would you attribute this to us instead of, you know, the guy who has actually been posting on your site for 3 hours AND has the URL of his OWN site in his signature. I’m not taking sides here, but there’s no reason to blame us.
http://www.wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog
by chitownblue on Sep 15, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Charts?
Charts:
Posts by ShockFX: 2
Posts Not by ShockFX: 60+
I tried table HTML but it doesn’t work. Sorry.
I actually thought your initial response would be it. I didn’t know SCM was reading and participating.
Welcome back Michigan?
Where have you been?
That’s really all the give and take I was going for.
Dear Michigan Fans:
Congratulations on beating one of the directional Michigan’s and a ND team that is so poorly coached they wasted all their second-half timeouts avoiding delay of game penalties.
I enjoyed that ND/UM game so much that, after it was over, I played with a super soaker, listened to the beastie boys, and considered the Republican party. I was trying to see if other things that were much more relevant 20 years ago would also be enjoyable, in a nostalgic way, in early September 2009.
This win against ND is going to seem like a much smaller deal when the Irish are .500 in late October and you’re trying to forget about the close game against Deleware State in preparation for the nittany lions.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
by spakajewia on Sep 15, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
NO POLITICS
We already had a pissing contest with Michigan fans, so let’s add politics to it.
It’s not needed, dude.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean, let's just assume everyone here is of the same poltical persuasion
That pisses me off. This is supposed to be a relatively reasonable blog. Not Pennlive.
Come on in, troutbum, fletchpa, PSUinRio…
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Oooh, troutbum's coming?
This place has been suffering from a dearth of pirated premium information.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know how you remember all that
I just try to forget everything from that joint.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Please don't tell me
he “trout-locked” Fortt.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
It was supposed to be a joke
I didn’t know that the anti-gun lobby was also anti-super soaker. My bad.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
It's bad joke
Because
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, shit
REPLY FAI
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Rambler:
ONLY HIT THE POST BUTTON AFTER YOU FINISH TYPING!
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm going downhill fast
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Um, try that again
There are BSD members of both parties on here, and an intended joke like that could easily be taken the wrong way because it is inflammatory, intended or not.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't be stupid, be a smarty
Come and join the Nazi party.
Wait, did I say that aloud?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Any mention of the words Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Liberal, or even Progressive are taboo here.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
What about Whigs and Torries?
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
DON'T YOU BRING ENGLISH TERMS IN HERE
THE ENGLISH ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY. I ONCE HAD A QUARTERBACK WITH AND ENGLISH NAME. RICHARDSON. HE WAS NOT GOOD.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotcha
Political labels = Bad
Ethnic slurs = Okay!
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Can we at least link Garfield as Garfield?
Ever wonder what the Garfield comic strip would be like if President Garfield were the star instead of the lasagna-eating cat? No? Well, hopefully you can enjoy this site anyway.
http://www.garfieldasgarfield.com/
Proof that there is always something more irrelevant on the internet than what you’re reading now.
by Cairo on Sep 15, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I bookmarked that
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh. Hell. Yes.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
what...the...oh... nevermind...
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
by TheMightyErik on Sep 15, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
you know what
I made a bad joke. Shouldn’t have said it.
But your reaction was just as bad. It pisses me off that you associate me with unreasonable people b/c i made the innocent mistake of inserting the republican party into a joke where it wasn’t needed.
I don’t assume that everyone here is of the same political persuasion. I did assume that people aren’t hyper-sensitive and could differentiate between a statement of fact—like what I said—from a statement of opinion. I won’t make that mistake again.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
by spakajewia on Sep 15, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pwned
well played
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
What statement of fact are you talking about, by the way?
I don’t understand.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
That sounds more hostile than I intended
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I find this a little offensive.....
I don’t know about main stream radio stations, but on alternative stations – the beasties are still relevent. Maybe people who only know them for “Fight for your right to party” don’t realize that they still rock.
Born and raised in the shadow of Mount Nittany
note to self:
never try to insult someone by insulting their politics, music, childhood games, or anything else that’s fairly subjective and they probably hold very closely.
In any event, my point, which seems lost long ago, is that ND/MI is not really a very big deal anymore, or rather, its a big deal in the same way that the Army/Navy game is a big deal…(now waiting for the midshipmen/black kinghts to come out of the woodwork and shame me…)
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
ND/UM will never be half the game Army/Navy is
FACT. I’d say the same for any other game.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you, Spake
Kinda. I mean, you can take the boy out of the eighties but you can’t take the 80s out of the boy.
I’m still a raisin in the sun, ragin against the machine.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Does anyone know
The deal with that Khairi kid? Did he commit?
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." -Joe Paterno
No
He came back from Georgia but didn’t pull the trigger. Rated his visit an 8.5 out of 10, which is good news for us if you ask me.
His plan is to attend the Iowa game and probably make a decision after that. He has to decide soon because wherever he goes he’s enrolling in January and there is paperwork that has to be filled out and approved.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
WHY IS EVERYONE BEING SO SENSITIVE?
LOUD NOISES.
Come on, people. College football is supposed to be about taunting, irrational hypotheticals, and arbitrary use of statistics.
Strangely enough, I’m happy for the Michigan fans…but it’s for a selfish reason. Their depression was fun while it lasted, but the truth is, life is more exciting when their team doesn’t suck so much.
--
"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor
by Run Up The Score on Sep 15, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
Disagree
They’re more fun when they suck.
“We still have more national championships than you!”
“34-8, bitches!”
“RICHROD WILL TURN US INTO A MACHINE!!!”
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It's just posturing
It’s really quite funny. That game could have easily gone the other way to the Irish, and if it had it would be RR on the hotseat today instead of Weis.
But yeah, it’s good to see the Wolverines return to glory and all that.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Imagine if they
had a player who was BOTH fast AND didn’t tie his OMG shoelaces. Then they would be special. SHOELACES.
by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 15, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
This thread is too big to not have function of the "c" or "z" buttons
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions
no lie... button FAIL due to the fat kid from CMU vid? wtf?
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
by TheMightyErik on Sep 15, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
to sum up everything of importance that I learned from this blogwar/slap-fight, i’ve got:
…and…
Did I miss anything else? :)
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
No, I think that's everything
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
tee hee hee
You said boob. Poor lad is too spooked to let that dangling arm drop for what would certainly be a welcome grab ass.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
DAMN
this is what i miss when i wake up after noon and don’t become functional til 1. it took me like an hour just to read through the epicness
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Sep 15, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1 for waking up at noon
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
And slept in thedrizzle’s bed til noon?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Who said anything about a bed?
I envisioned a front yard, or possibly the top of the stairwell leading to a second-floor walkup (and yes, I have spent the night in both of those places).
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
you'd rather be
an unemployed recent graduate?
…but then again…don’t we all?
We decide when you hear the snap count...
Some days yes
My ultimate dream is my wife to make a ton of money so I can be a stay at home dad. Just send the kids off to school and have the rest of the day to blog and golf. I would even have dinner on the table and do the laundry for that gig.
The best would be the summers when the boys get older.
“What do you want to do today, guys? Hang out at the pool, hit the links, or both?”
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Mike's day plan
8:00 AM: Write post that brings in Buckeye/UM trolls
9:00 – 11:00 AM: Golf
12:00 – 1:00 PM: Steak lunch
1:00 – 1:30 PM: Check in at blog
1:30 PM – 3:00 PM: Grotto shopping
3:00 – 4:00 PM: Check in at blog
4:00 – 8:00 PM: Golf…in the Grotto!
8:00 – 11:00 PM: Watch Rambler TV.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet!
You started a television network?
Does the intro indicate in some way ’I’m a commenter, not a blogger?’
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 16, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not a dig, dude
I loved that line of yours. Fo serious.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
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