Grading The Penn State Defense Against Syracuse
by KevinHD on Sep 15, 2009 12:00 PM EDT
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PrintAnother sub-par offense, another week of shutting them down. Missing Navarro Bowman to a supposedly minor injury, the linebacking corps picked up special teams all-star Nate Stupar.
Defensive Line
Last week this unit was on fire and earned a flat A from Mike. We knew the middle with Ogbu and Odrick would be tough going into the season and so far they are living up to the expectations. Odrick is either incredibly good at run stuffs or has some type of predictive spider-sense because throughout the first half he found himself behind the line of scrimmage and one-on-one with the poor ball carrier.
B+
Linebackers
Lee's awesomeness cannot be measured. When he wasn't all over the ball he was cleaning up for the mistakes of the rest of the defense. I'm telling you all of this but you knew it anyway. He finished with a team leading 13 tackles, 3 for a loss.
Stupar played a mixed bag, but I like how he's coming along. His knack for getting to the ball (both on the ground and apparently while in the air) in incredible and I think a large part of what made him so deadly on special teams. The problem is he sometimes over-pursues. He has some form to work on and too often whiffed on tackles, but the fact that he's there in the first place speaks to his potential.
B+
Secondary
You can't be too upset with holding a defense to 5.4 yards per passing attempt. I still feel like we know almost nothing about this unit, however, because the defensive line has been tearing apart opposing blockers.
While the first half was quit, ‘Cuse was able to pick up some yards on short screens and had a sure fire drop in the end zone to a wide open receiver on 4th down. The result was comforting, but the play was not.
Incomplete
Did we learn anything from Akron? Hard to say here, with they facing the Morgan State Bears, but Jacquemain played well: 13 for 22, 162 yards and a 3/0 ratio. The team that struggled mightily to even earn a first down against Penn State picked up 436 yards and won 41-zip.
Where it's at. We know very little through these two games, but the defense can only smother the cupcakes they are given, and in doing that they've earned the 10th ranked rushing D, 28th ranked passing D and stand 9th in first downs allowed.
One more pre-season game to work things out, get Bowman healthy, and teach a young secondary before we actually get to see what this unit is made of against Iowa.
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The team that struggled mightily to even earn a first down against Penn State picked up 436 yards and won 41-zip.
I see what you did there.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
I actually had “41-zips” originally but figured I haven’t earned enough proof reading street-cred to use typos on purpose.
BSD
by KevinHD on Sep 15, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 for 'proof reading street-cred'
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
and for not having it...
While the first half was quit ;-)
"far less knowledgeable than the average poster here"
while we're piling on
His knack for getting to the ball (both on the ground and apparently while in the air) in incredible and I think a large part of what made him so deadly on special teams.
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 15, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You just gave Laura two more tackles
oh, and there’s this:
Hard to say here, with they facing the Morgan State Bears…
Any chance we can
track down Morgan State for the 2010 schedule?
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Did anyone else notice?
Josh Hull’s sweet mustache
How could you not?
I thought he was getting ready to go as Ron Jeremy for Halloween.
that or Dave Wannstedt… whatever.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
crap you beat me to it
i was gonna say how looks like he should be robbing saloons in the 1880’s or something.
We decide when you hear the snap count...
Anyone have a pic?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanted to include one with my post
but I couldn’t find one
He looks like a gas station attendant who doesn’t have enough cash to buy a razor.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
posting from experience?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
No
I tried to apply at a Texaco once, but the owner said customers might be “scared to death” by a droid.
Sigh.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
buck up little droid
You’re just ahead of your time.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
When did droids
gain the ability to grow facial hair? I am sooo 2008.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
You see the Penn State Football Story?
There’s a clip of his post-game interview during the closing credits. That thing’s verging on incredible.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
And his stache
makes its appearance around 1:28.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 15, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
clap... clap... clap...
Well played, sir.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 15, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
took me a while to get it
kept wondering why you were saying JoePa is his stache (since he comes on right at 1:28)
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 15, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Screengrab FTW
And for those too lazy to click on the video link…
So much of his power is derived from that ’stache.
It sounds like he plans on keeping it for a while
Josh Hull was quick to answer one question about his person — the ever-growing mustache under his lip isn’t going anywhere until after the bowl season.
"The mustache is staying for the rest of the season," he said adamantly.
A playoff stache
is so much better.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
not that this has anything to do with defense...
but while we’re on the subject of “did anyone else notice,” did anyone see Quarless’s tattoo? I had to rewind it just to make sure I was seeing it right. I can’t seem to find a picture of it anywhere though.
Funny story
he’s got a set of tattoos on each butt cheek as well. It says “JoePa’s Bitch”.
Or at least he should…
/sorry for the language
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Language?
Just use “JoePa’s Pryor”
Come on. I expect better from a BSD veteran.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
but I try to disassociate our players as much as possible from …him…
I mean, seriously, he can’t be that bad if Zug hasn’t vaporized him to this point. (Concurring – Zug jokes are barely funny these days.)
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Zug jokes are definitely old
I’m thankful S.O.A. jokes aren’t old.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a new season
We’ll have a new set of jokes nobody has thought up before long
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
The good thing about Old
Is that Classic is just around the corner.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
The ammount of circular linking...
jtot has been up to in recent days/weeks is getting creepy. You keep this up and Rambler will become self aware in no time!
Put a tarp on that circus! - showtime @ BSD
Re: 'Creepy'
I’ll go toe-to-toe with quite a few on here that my work is actually less creepy.
(warning: further quibbling ensues…) Besides, with dwindling originality abounding, linking (circular or otherwise) has become part of the fundamental fabric of the blogistani user experience. And let’s face it: when the goods have been posted, you want those voices heard.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Would love to have seen
Paterno’s reaction to that…
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 15, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
I’m surprised he doesn’t make Quarless wear long sleeves during the game.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Yes, but then Quarless would refuse to play
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell, *I* don't care
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I threw out the theory...
…that there’s something written on his back too.
That said, maybe he’s religious, and views the creation of man as “God’s Gift.” Or maybe he’s just a clown. Who knows?
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
A little from Column A, a Little from Column B...
but probably a little more from column B.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 15, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I did notice that
possibly the most arrogant tattoo ever
This is when you
pray for a mis-spelling. Is there an apostrophe in there?
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
No he meant Gods pleural
Quarless worships Seth, God of Confusion, of Egyptian mythology. Seth is the evil brother of Osiris God of the Dead, who he murders, dismembers and throws into the Nile river, forever instilling his essence into the waters, which is why they flood anually. Osiris’ wife, Isis, Godess of the throne of Egypt, gathers his remains and resurrects him, and she later gives birth to their child, Horus, the God of good, and fertility.
I took CAMS 44 with Asunta Redford
The wife of your professor. She had him come in and speak a couple of times. CAMS is awesome stuff.
by PSUisMyHeart on Sep 16, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Scratch that
It was CAMS 104 I took with Asunta Redford, CAMS 44 was with a different professor. Coincidentally both the professor I took 44 with and Asunta Redford are teaching CAMS 44 right now. Anyway, the rest still applies.
by PSUisMyHeart on Sep 16, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
how does the secondary get an Incomplete
or is that another Pun…if so you are good kevin
if not…I thought they sucked…the only saving grace was the SU receivers dropping ball afterball…as much as I hate Duke and Paulus, he put the ball where he needed to his receivers didn’t do their job…
the field is wide open behind our linebackers and good teams will exploit that
I was not impressed...
Did they play any bump or man coverage? It seemed soft zone the whole time.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 15, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Because I have no idea if they are any good. We’ve been getting so much pressure it’s hard to give the secondary credit for the low passing yardage. The BTN didn’t zoom out far enough for me to be able to tell if we were covering properly down field. And if Bradly knows routs won’t develop, that changes the whole philosophy of what he is telling the DBs and Ss to do.
BSD
Incomplete seems appropriate..
I just wanted to know if anyone could tell if they are mixing up the coverages at all. I can’t tell if this team is doing just enough to win and will step it up for the bigger games or it isn’t as good as I hoped it would be.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 15, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Man coverage
On one of SU’s first passing plays the BTN announcers said that our man coverage confused Paulus.
I believe he was either sacked or he threw the ball away.
not enough astorino
I feel there is a bit too much praise for Stupar b/c a batted ball landed in his hands and not enough for Astorino. Stupar had a rough game and was benched at one point for Bani. Much of their better gains came at Stupar. I think he’ll be a good player, but this was not one of his better days.
Astorino on the other hand played very well. He wasn’t tested much deep, but he plays Rubin’s roll near the line as a rover/robber type of SS with Sukay in CF. He flashed several times and on some plays it appeared to be a race b/w Lee and Astorini, I mean Astorino, to be the first to diagnose and snuff out the play. He blew up two wr screens and one bootleg throw for little gains and no YAC.
Josh Hull
I noticed Syracuse was really trying to exploit Hull in the passing game by throwing those quick slants to the receiver who was splitting between Hull and whichever linebacker was lined up opposite of Lee. They had a few nice gains of six or seven yards doing that, but then Williams also dropped one in the endzone on a play like that. Hull got lucky on his INT. He was beat, but the throw went behind the receiver and bounced in the air right off his helmet. Hull was just Johnny on the Spot.
Later in the game PSU countered by keeping the DLine home to clog the passing lanes. The result was a tip by Odrick that got intercepted by Stupar.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Maybe the SU coaches read BSD
A lot of people on here talk down about Josh Hull, so maybe whoever-replaced-Gerg read that and thought going at Hull was a good idea.
Now we should start talking about how bad Lee is and what a joke Odrick is…maybe Temple will go right at them. Suckers.
by Jeff Junstrom on Sep 15, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't have to read BSD...Just watch the tape
Hull is just a step slow in pass coverage. He’s great at making the tackle once the completion is made, but by then he gives up six or seven yards.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
So...what you're saying is...
Josh Hull is as good in coverage as James Laurinatis was.
/pining for the return of Bowman
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll 'pitch' in to that thought...
"...big hitter; the Llamma...long..."
by BlueWhiteLife on Sep 15, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Bearly!
"...big hitter; the Llamma...long..."
by BlueWhiteLife on Sep 15, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
My cousin treed a bear once
up at their camp. It urinated on him!
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
+1 for
the bear’s and his good aim ( and windage )
-1 for your cousin ( please send this to him )
"...big hitter; the Llamma...long..."
by BlueWhiteLife on Sep 17, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Pining
It is fun to occasionally (OCCASIONALLY, I SAID), muse about the players, once available to us for this season, but no longer so. Wouldn’t Phil Taylor and Chris Baker have this last year of eligibility? Evans, Maybin, Koroma. BWare. Eligible LBs not really available to us yet: Bowman, Mauti, Zordich. Depth is so important.
(note how I stayed defensive and avoided pining for Stabby?)
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Bowman will be available once again
Probably not this week, as his right groin was still sore on Monday.
He’s currently listed as “possible” to play on the injury report.
/making me go all Andy Dufresne on you
Don’t be so obtuse.
What’s ambiguous?
And, Aaron, below, I said ‘yet.’ I recognize Bowman will be first back, then BWare. Not sure about the race betwixt Zordich’s escape from the doghouse and Mauti’s ACL rehab. Taylor, Baker, Evans, Maybin, Koroma were listed to effectuate my point. I ain’t ignernt, ya know.
We’ve seen a little of Bani, but anybody spot Yancich yet?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 15, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"betwixt" again, eh?
+1
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 15, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
it's the sly cousin of over yonder
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
ME FAIL ENGLISH
Mauti is done for the year, though.
(Wait, that sounds like I’m making an excuse rather than passing on information. Clearly, I made a mistake. I’m sorry, and I will try not to do it again. If I were making an excuse, I’d blame Indiana for selling a home game, ruining their shot at the Big Ten title, and throwing me and Tate Forcier off our games.)
Pretty funny
I like how Ollie is just barely grabbing the guy’s jersey…actually reaching in the melee to grab it.
At Ohio State he would get an assisted tackle for that.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
I've never seen this written out
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
the latter
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Stupar was awful in this game. Just awful.
If we were grading him alone, he would get a S-
--
"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor
by Run Up The Score on Sep 15, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
way to sack up and call it.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 16, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Totally
I would never call out my boy Nathan.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 16, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
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