The Still Life: Blow up the Outside
Welcome Back to another installment of the Still Life where we take strategy to new levels for the average BSD reader. This week we are going to examine the biggest blunder of Temple game, where defensively the Lions allowed a 36 yard completion just after the half.
Pre Snap Read: Here we can see the Lions in a pretty standard Nickel (4-2) alignment. The only twist to this is that the linebacker Sean Lee (circled) has to kick out into the slot to guard against being out numbered at a possible point of attack. Otherwise this is standard Nickel alignment.
Now looking at Temple’s formation we have a rather normal situation. Temple has lined up in an ace formation with 3 receivers wide to the defenses right, and a TE to the opposite side. This is a pretty mundane formation in college football. Now if I am the Temple QB I am reading zone coverage all the way, look at the feet of D’Anton Lynn and Knowledge Timmons. They are "sitting" at a 45° angle; this is usually a good indicator that the defense is running zone coverage.
Hull is blitzing up the middle meaning there are 6 players dropping into coverage. Already we can see the Cover 3 defense taking shape. Look at how D’Anton Lynn bails deep on the play to cover his deep 3rd.
Now we actually see what is happening with the play. Penn State is clearly in a Cover 3 defense. The safety Nick Sukay comes into the picture. Here we can see the PSU defense in the concepts of the cover three. The free safety and two corner backs are going to divide up the field into three parts; the underneath will be covered by the strong safety, and the two linebackers. This defense will help prevent any deep balls or one on one matchups.
From Temples point of view the way to defeat this cover three is to "stretch" the zones of the defense, or in layman’s terms, get the defense spread out to the point that there are small areas in that zone that are wide open for the completion. Here we can see that these routes do just that. The Split End (the widest man out) runs a 10 yard post pattern. This will occupy both deep third defenders on his side. The next receiver in runs a slant pattern to suck Andrew Dailey and Sean Lee into the middle of the field. The slot back, Joe Adams runs a wheel route along the sidelines hoping to either be open, or suck a deep third defender down thus leaving the post open.
Now we know what each team is looking to do so lets see why Temple is successful here and PSU fails miserably. The three deep third defenders Lynn, Sukay, and Timmons all cover their respective areas. If Lynn jumps the wheel route the ball is thrown immediately to the post. Sukay is playing center field just like he is supposed to do, and Lee and Timmons are occupied by the slant route. This leaves Andrew Dailey to cover the underneath pattern along the sideline which is the wheel route. He does not get there in time.
In this illustration we can see just how far Dailey gets himself out of position. Look at the size of the bubble in the zone the QB has to throw the ball. A high school QB can make that throw.
Final Analysis: Bottom line here is the defense was caught in what RUTS calls the "bend but don’t suck defense. They recover to make the tackle and prevent a touchdown but they have just given up big chunk of yardage in the process. The only way this play is defended properly is if Dailey reads the wheel route and bails accordingly. However, in this particular instance loses his man by looking at the slant route too long and leaves a gaping hole in the zone that just about any D1 quarterback can throw to properly. This was not really an issue versus Temple because they did not have the skill to takes this to the endzone. But when playing against some of the better teams in the Big Ten this bend but don’t suck defense could be a TD and a back breaker.
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I suck as a poster
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ive done far worse
which is to say, every post of mine has been far worse than this.
this defensive play reminds me too much of the rose bowl.
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by psudrozz on Sep 23, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posting the same thing 4 times ensures people will see it.
by Cairo on Sep 23, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really screwed up that didn't I?
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries. You just forgot to hit enter after each paragraph and photo. I took 2 seconds and cleaned it up.
Great job. The BBDS strikes again…
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by Kevin HD on Sep 23, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember
The preview button is your friend.
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by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike
I don’t know what is up with my computer but that preview button won’t work on my work computer. Maybe someone out there can explain this to me, but I click on the button and it won’t do anything. I also see alot of broken picture icons on my computer. Is this a JAVA issue or what?
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd guess
It’s a browser issue, probably pop-up-related. Some setting is (likely popup blocker, but also likely a javablocker like you mention—not uncommon in locked down work networks) is preventing the preview window from launching at the click of the button.
Not to worry, tho. As noted below, the post’s content comes shining through. Cool stuff.
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by jtothep on Sep 23, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet it is a network issue...
thanks for the insight jtothep
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup...Proxy
Why do you make the distinction about your work computer? Is it at work, or just a laptop that you bring home?
If it’s at work, then more than likely you’re sitting behind a proxy that doesn’t like something about the page as it is being pulled from the site, through the proxy, and then fed to your browser.
The broken links/missing pictures is a dead giveaway that a proxy is in between you and the webserver.
by nylyst on Sep 23, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm
I see. Maybe then next time save it as a draft and shoot an email to myself or Kevin. We can take a look and post it for you.
Mike
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by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I think I will just bring my laptop in and work from my mobile card
so I don’t have to deal with a proxy. That seems like the best bet. At least this week I was able to post the entire story and not just the first paragraph.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will still most likely have you two edit it
to make sure it is kosher.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be helpful
Do me a favor and shoot me an email a few hours or even a day before you are ready to post it. We try to coordinate our posts so they are spaced out a bit to give people a chance to read them all and react before we hit them with another one. Though we may not look like it, there is a lot of planning between Kevin, RUTS, and I going on behind the scenes to make this place operate like the well oiled machine it is. I just don’t want to have you post something and then ten minutes later one of us puts up another post that pushes yours down the page.
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by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a plan.
I will do that the minute I get the pictures from Kevin that way we can get a deadline, or timeline going. I understand why you want and need to space things out. It keeps things fresh.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Mike
I get the pictures in the morning and typically have the post done in an hour or two. So if Kevin lets you know when I am getting the pictures then I can post anytime after that. It can even wait a day or two if you need it to. Then you could preview and ask questions so I can make a stronger post.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
Just keep me in the loop.
Mike
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by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had more time, I would do a Brian Cook-style Upon Further Review.
It would also help if I was an Xs and Os guy.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Rambler
I heart Brian Cook.
/swoon.
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by jtothep on Sep 23, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah?
At least I didn’t predict honor and glory for UM.
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by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mommmy...Daddy......please stop yelling...
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by bconway6 on Sep 23, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you do for Iowa!
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by Roland86 on Sep 23, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Impossible
Not even Hayden himself could honestly predict honor for Iowa.
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 23, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do not!
I haven’t even predicted a victory for them this week!
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically he's right
He’s just been making me even more unbearably nervous and anxious than I already was, but as I should be. Then again, I get nervous before everything, but it will be worse on Sat.
by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 23, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything but.
I am obviously nervous about this game, I respect Iowa’s abilities, but they are not tOSU, even with arm punter at QB. I by no means think it will be a blow out but I definitely think we will win.
I am gonna hate to see what you are like when that game comes around. You might short circuit.
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by Roland86 on Sep 23, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iowa vs. OSU:
From what I’ve seen so far.
OSU’s d-line > Iowa’s d-line (due to depth)
Iowa’s LBs > OSU’s LBs
Iowa’s secondary > OSU’s secondary (it’s close, but Spievey is excellent, and Iowa’s safeties are improved)
Iowa’s o-line = OSU’s o-line
OSU’s RBs > Iowa’s RBs
Iowa’s WRs and TEs >> OSU’s WRs and TEs (Iowa has more talent and more depth)
Iowa’s QB > Arm Punter (Stanzi is inconsistent. Pryor consistently varies from bad to kinda above average)
If the game was in Iowa City, I don’t even think I’d call it an upset.
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by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude whatever...
Pryor > Iowa
so says the MSM… so they must be right
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by TheMightyErik on Sep 23, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Works for me...
I found it informative. Tech issues don’t bother me. We aren’t saving the world here.
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by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I for one
Loved the post. Great work.
To someone like me it’s difficult to tell who wiffed on this play b/c I’m not an X’s and O’s guy. However it’s been my opinion that our safeties have not been stellar so far this season. The corners on the other hand have been a pleasant surprise.
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by millzners on Sep 23, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I too love the post.
What’s your background? You clearly know your [\grandkids] stuff. I think I remember you saying a while back you were a HS coach, obviously in carolina? Head coach? DC? Anthony Morelli?
by PSUJunny05 on Sep 23, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
I am a high school offensive coordinator. I have been around the game since I was 13 and just have a deep passion for it in general. I go to a lot of clinics and speak to a lot of college coaches from around the eastern U.S. So football is on my mind year round.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the informative post
Not playing college football it is interesting to get a inside look at the strategy and lean more about what I’m watching each week.
by FG Dreadnought on Sep 23, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank Kevin and his minions as well
They are the reason this post is up. He does a great job of getting these screen shots and handling all the technical stuff. Also thank Mike and Ruts for agreeing to have this feature. I feel privileged to contribute to the community here.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude... I think you did a great job on it even with the technology battling you
I like what you did by illustarting it but hate seeing how easy it is to pick that D apart.
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by TheMightyErik on Sep 23, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure I follow
Could you illustart to us what you mean?
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by jtothep on Sep 23, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there you go again...
Mike! He’s picking on me!
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by TheMightyErik on Sep 23, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
You seemed so good with the coloring on that domer jersey, I figured Illustarting would be right up your alley!
/with nothing but love for my Rose Bowl Brother
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by jtothep on Sep 23, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
as a Penn State fan, you hated watching this; but as an OC, you salivated at watching a defense fall exactly for the offensive play’s intent? :)
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by IcersGuy on Sep 23, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On this play...
where does the defense want the ball to go? Other than a sack I mean.
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by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Underneath or into coverage.
They are wanting you to throw it under the three deep men, which is what happens here. It basically bottles everything up for small gains.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought as much...
This was a 2nd and 12 or 3rd and 12 ish play correct? This seems to be a defense you want to use to prevent a long first down conversion, but not one you want to use when the offense needs 10 or less yards for the 1st down. Is that correct?
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by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No not necessarily
Depending on the routes the other team runs, this can be a close, line of scrimmage defense. Your deep three only go as deep as their deepest man. Some teams run cover three on the goalline.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Ok, but why...
do the corners seem to bail out before the snap and go so deep?
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by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The down and distance that you noted before.
They are playing the situation not the play.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice analysis, but...
I can’t help but feel a tad deceived by the title of this post. I was also expecting to see a video for Soundgarden’s “Blow Up The Outside World”
http://www.happyhourvalley.com/
by Happy Hour Valley on Sep 23, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was the inspiration for the title
I love soundgarden
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to attempt to +2 for that reason.
But I wasn’t sure if it was an unintentional soundgarden reference. Great work, good sir!
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by chocochuck02 on Sep 23, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me see if I get this straight
Dailey’s responsibility was to play the short zone in the flat. He watched the middle reciever and just didn’t see the inside receiver run his wheel route until it was too late?
Mike
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by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he jumped that slant route and never read the wheel
By the time he reacted it was way too late.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he not read it?
Or did he expect Lynn to pick up that man? Should Lynn have released his man to Sukay to cover his deep left zone?
Mike
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by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats Mike...
….you are now thinking EXACTLY like a d-back playing cover 3. Tons of possibilities in coverage and responsibility changing and evolving during a play that will last about 4-7 seconds. That group has to know and “feel” what all others are doing in the zone. One guy reads wrong or “feels” wrong, and the QB makes the right choice….zone FAIL
by hbeach08 on Sep 23, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daily made too aggressive a read
He’s a converted LB isn’t he? Just jumped that under and lost responsibility. Hopefully they start feeling each when guys are clearing zones.
by Spats on Sep 23, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if that’s the reason, but, yes, Dailey is a converted LB.
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by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That gave me fits when I was looking him up
rivals still has him listed as a LB on their roster yet I knew he wasn’t playing LB on the play. It made for a messy early draft paper.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if he assumed that it was a bad assumption and leaves the defense in a world of trouble.
What I don’t see on this play is Dailey’s eyes following that slot man, he stays locked to the inside and doesn’t react in time. I have to say it is a case of him getting tunnel vision and not really feeling the play.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Lynn leaves the post you give up the Post coverage.
A one on one post is really tough to defend, just ask Scirotto after Sanchez torched him.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dailey’s first read was likely the quarterback to determine direction of drop…a quick one second read. His next quick read is likely the slant receiver then he should immediatly be looking for a reciever moving into his area of responsibiltiy…the flat. He stays focused too long on the backfield and slant.
by OldNumber21 on Sep 23, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is the AZ?
The old number 21 makes me think that way.
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this AZ? I made a typo
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome post
I love this series. Keep up the good work.
I’m always fascinated by the X’s and O’s and why certain plays work at certain times. It all unfolds too fast for a shlub like me on TV, so slowing it down like this is awesome.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
by 06Lion on Sep 23, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just curious as I deleted this game off DVR already...
were we even close to getting pressure on the QB? Did the mad moustache run straight towards the first available lineman and get sealed off like last year?
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by TheMightyErik on Sep 23, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
from what I can tell there wasn't a ton of pressure.
Pressure can negate anything in the secondary even a blown coverage, but that is obvious isn’t it?
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by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"the mad moustache"
That’s beautiful, man.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the game last night and recall this play vividly
Mad Moustache got no pressure. Unless you count missing the gap and running into Odrick’s back pressure.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 23, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, then technically he pressured Odrick
so….mission accomplished?
by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 23, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh, if THAT was his mission
then I think he needs to re-evaluate his goals as a LB
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 23, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Iowa run this set?
For no reason at all, I always picture Iowa in your standard I formation. I assume they have som variation of the ace formation.
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by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As a matter of fact...
http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2009/9/15/1031322/not-satire-real-story-of-isu-game
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by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why thank you.
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by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Rambler
I heart BHGP.
/swoon
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 23, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
That’s just a PSA for Esteban. Don’t want to see him get picked apart by StoopsMyAss or Bellanca.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks. Even with the spread hd I still seem to always picture
PSU in more traditional formations.
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by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
Stoops looks like he could be handled, if you catch him on the right day. But if pokin is your game, Bellanca could be the scariest cat in blogistan.
If push comes to shove this week, I may go cower behind Bleed Blue N White and beg Buggy to unleash a barrage of ’shops.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were to rip Iowa, and I am not, I would bring much more than that.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brick where did you get a grenade?
I DON’T KNOW!

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 23, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a great post!
I will read every single one on of these carolinaeasy. Haven’t played organized football for way too long and certainly appreciate the insight from someone who clearly knows what their talking about. Good work.
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by NittanyAlum02 on Sep 23, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it hard breaking down these plays with T.V. angles and...
not the coach’s tape?
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by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Extremely hard
It forces you to make some assumptions. But you can still see what is going on for the most part, but yeah the coaches angles are A LOT easier to break down. Especially the end zone copy where you can basically see every step the line takes ect.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curious
Can you give us any background on your Sig? I find it rather provocative.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw the fanpost about Laura Nichols
Then thought about the site and all the inside jokes we have here, and then thought about how much time I waste here every year, and realized it was an addiction. So I combined some inside jokes and admitted to my addiction all at once. I would have put the picture of that darn dog in my sig if I could.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha!
Thanks, Mr. Easy. Was fishin for Esteban’s actually. But I love yours as well.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine?
A nickname from my college years that involves way too much booze, inside jokes and time. Basically, were I a character on a Spanish language soap opera that would be my Spanish language soap opera name. “Amur” is spelled that way because I am notorious for inability to spell the simplist words correctly.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reply fail.
The quote about effort and achievement I believe is from Bill Walton of all people. I seem to remember a game he was covering with Steve “Snapper” Jones and a player dove for a ball going out of bounds, but could not save it and Snapper made a comment about the effort. Walton retorted with my quote or something like John Wooden always said, “Never mistake effort for achievement”. It also reminds me of my golf game, which is big on effort and small on achievement.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even watching the game from higher up in an endzone can give you...
a different appreciation of how plays develop or don’t develop.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've said this before (and I've only sat up there once)
But those upper deck seats give you an incredible vantage point of the field. Sucks to be there if you like to be close to the action, but if you like the video-game-esque view of the action, they’re actually really good seats.
by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 23, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I've always liked being at least halfway up in the stands
especially in the corners where you get some down the middle view, and some length of the field fiew
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 23, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, coach. Both the post and the comments are fascinating.
How would you game-plan against Iowa’s D, if one may ask?
Mr. Boh Knows ...
by Bellanca on Sep 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We've been in some sort of cover 2, five under --
or even something I might call a 4-5-2, against the two spread opponents.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
by Bellanca on Sep 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which reminds me of this ...
Paul Johnson on Tech’s 4-5-2. Evidently he doesn’t like to lose.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
by Bellanca on Sep 23, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, to be honest with you
I have not watched Iowa at all this year. So I cannot tell you much on that, sorry. I do know that they think they are tough up front on defense, so I would trap, and screen them to slow them down a little bit. But I have not watched them at all.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our DEs were crashing down backside bigtime against Arizona.
So it would seem that is a setup absent an adjustment — since we’re playing a team this week with a major college offense (that UNI could not beat). Leastwise, that’s something I’ll be watching (it’s even visible on the tv frame).
Again, really enjoyed your post and comments.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
by Bellanca on Sep 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another question
I find it interesting you mentioned you could tell by the way Lynn and Timmons placed their feet at 45 degree angles that PSU was in a zone coverage. Do you think they are coached to set their feet that way? Or is that just laziness on their part?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
coached
That is pretty standard. It is one thing QB coaches teach in the presnap read. It can be used as a decoy though as well, but you have to be pretty athletic to make a play in man when starting out in that stance.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How would the feet be in man? Parallel to the l.o.s.? Why not show man put play zone?
Thank you for your insight. This is the only productive thing going on for me today.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well some do that
But the problem with showing man and jumping to zone is you put your eyes and hips out of position if you have to move the other way. It is an easy way to burn the zone.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my thinking too
Why telegraph zone coverage? Why not always line up as if you are in man?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listen Guys
It has been great being able to post this today, I hope you all enjoy. I wish I could stay and chat it up, but I have a flight I have to catch tonight to get into State Collegez so I gotta run thanks again everybody!
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on Sep 23, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Enjoy the game dude!
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See ya dude!
Hope you can stop by the BSD tailgate!
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that another term for open-thread?
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Sep 23, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not this week
I’ll be in the 814.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who'll be operating the open thread?
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09
by kmblue on Sep 23, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It'll be handled
I’ll schedule a bunch of threads to open at different intervals.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAHHHHHH!!!
BSD IN CHAOS!!! WHO IS MANNING THE THREADS!!!! GAAAAAHHHHH!!!
lol, the open threads tend to be chaos regardless of being manned or not.
by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 23, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's cool
I’m leaving Rambler in charge while I’m gone.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KICKASS!
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we can expect a depressed, angry post if we win?
by PSUMark2008 on Sep 23, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have I predicted an Iowa victory at any point?
I’ll answer that for you. No, I have not.
I saw far too much under-estimation of this game for my liking and took steps to address this issue.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just some good natured ribbing my friend
I know you’re a PSU fan – just some friendly teasing
by PSUMark2008 on Sep 23, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that
But I was looking for an opportunity to explain my motivations.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
aside from the fact that you wear Stanzi pajamas?
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 23, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I wear Tim Dwight pajamas.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 23, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you have succeeded beyond your wildest dreams...
well at least it has worked on me anyway.
Put a tarp on that circus! - showtime @ BSD
by bconway6 on Sep 24, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh God, we're all screwed...
I mean, this place is teh AwEsOmEs!! with Rambler in charge!
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
by IcersGuy on Sep 23, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is that anyway?
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Sep 23, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look for details in a fanpost by PSUncle tomorrow
But we will set up shop behind right/center field of the baseball stadium. Look for an inflatable Captain Morgans bottle and a pirate flag. We’ll be there bright and early around 7 AM.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 am to 7 pm?
Thats some dedicated drinking…or is there a game on Saturday?
by PSUJunny05 on Sep 23, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gameday wouldn't be fun sober
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Sep 23, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all about pacing yourself
We call it “Buzz Management”
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 23, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm, I'll have to see how I do on this buzz management
I was challenged to beat my personal tailgating record set at the ND 2006 game, where I nearly polished off a case of Yuengling before the game started. I was surprisingly lucid during that game, though.
I don’t really want to be F’d up for this game, though, so I think I’m definitely going to pace myself.
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 23, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely pace yourself
Why pay money to forget you saw the game? Anyway save the alcohol for afterward, when we [GAME CONCLUSION REDACTED]
by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 24, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
For clever redaction device.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 24, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love your enthusiasm!
7 a.m. start is fantastic for an 8 p.m. game!
clap………..clap……..clap…..clap….clap..clap..clap!
We are not normal. We are legends.
by NittanyAlum02 on Sep 23, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love these posts
but can we see one where maybe we can be awesome?
I’m thirsty for some Kool-Aid.
by confirmy on Sep 23, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually more interested in why things go wrong.
When some play collapses or a coverage is blow, I’ll ask “What the hell was going on there?” Posts like this help me cope.
"Dr. Samuel Johnson's right about Olson Johnson being right."
by mushdamma on Sep 23, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I'll grant that
and after a few more of these, we’ll all be armed with just enough knowledge to become really annoying.
by confirmy on Sep 23, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny...
You think you would get this type of analysis from the color man during the broadcast, but you seldom do. Instead you get obvious statements.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 23, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you know Royster was a really good lacrosse player?
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Sep 23, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This just in... JoePa is old
what we would do without those guys?
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
by TheMightyErik on Sep 23, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Penn State has actually had a lot of good linebackers
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Sep 24, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barely
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 24, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barely
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 24, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barely
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 24, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barely
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 24, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fairness to the defense.
Virtually no college secondary covers the wheel route well. It’s a slow developing route.. Usually at least 2 seconds before the inside receiver even gets into the clear and if there is any pressure on the QB than the throw becomes virtually impossible. Dailey got caught looking in the backfield. He assumed that the receiver was going to sit in the flat and he figured he could jump the route for a pick six if he watched the QB’s eyes. This coverage actually should have ‘generally worked’ against this play. Typically the way to beat cover 3 is with 4 verticals and flood routes. These routes out of this formation were pulled almost directly from old run n’ shoot offenses from the early 90’s.
One interesting thing I do note about the coverage. Usually PSU’s underneath cover guys bail a lot deeper when they go Cover 2/3. Lee was watching the slant but almost playing a spy position on Carlton. You’d probably see this as base defense on 3rd and long vs. Pryor, but you’ll hardly ever see trips from the Buckeyes.. The tailback/TE will be running the wheel instead and the line will have to at least make Pryor move in under 3 secs before he gets open. Against Iowa, PSU won’t half spy Stanzi, and Dailey will be looking to prevent that route because he won’t be covering for Lee if the QB scrambles.
by dyehardfan on Sep 23, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Could I make a suggestion for next week?
Could we get a video of the play to accompany the still frames?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 24, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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