Iowa Hawkeyes vs. Penn State By The Numbers
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Note: The Redzone TD% and Redzone TD% Defense are calculated by me and not ranked by the NCAA. Determining who has the advantage in these categories is strictly my arbitrary judgement.
Disclaimer: Yes, I realize Penn State has played Akron, Temple, and Syracuse while Iowa has played Northern Iowa, Iowa State, and Arizona. In a sense we're comparing apples and oranges here. There is no need to point that out in the comments. This is just a fun exercise based on the information we have available at this time. It is by no means a 100% fool-proof prediction.
More analysis after the jump.
Best Matchup
The Penn State offense and Iowa Hawkeye defense are pretty evenly matched. This will be an exciting chess match to watch every time Penn State gets the ball.
Worst Matchup
Iowa sucks at returning kickoffs more than we suck at covering them. (But not as bad as we are at returning them.) Something will have to give on Saturday night.
Iowa Hawkeye Advantages
The glaring advantage for Iowa is on special teams. It's not that their special teams are out of this world, it's more like Penn State's special teams are awful as we all know.
It's interesting to see that Iowa's defensive numbers are better than average, but not great. That is until you look their defensive points per game allowed which drops to an impressive 12 points. Yet when you look at their redzone defense percentage you can see they are at the bottom of the NCAA list. Every opponent that has entered the redzone against Iowa has come away with points. It seems like they shouldn't be that great at scoring defense, but when you break down the redzone efficiency further into what percentage of trips to the endzone yielded touchdowns, Iowa comes away with a very impressive 33% TD rate on defense. This is Bend-But-Don't-Suck defense at it's best, ladies and gentlemen.
Penn State should be able to move the ball against this defense. But when they get into the redzone they have to come away with touchdowns rather than field goals. This was the major failure of the first half of the game in Iowa City last year.
Iowa also has a decided advantage on turnover margin. Penn State has not been good at protecting the ball this season, and that will have to change.
Penn State Nittany Lion Advantages
The Penn State defense should have a decided advantage over Iowa's offense. Iowa has struggled to run the ball while Penn State's front four has been a brick wall. Penn State's defense should keep them in the game.
Penn State also has a decided advantage in the pass rush and getting to the quarterback. Ricky Stanzi should go down a few times and find himself rushed into some throws at other times.
Outlook for the Game
It sounds cliche, but this game is going to come down to turnovers and field position. The Iowa defense is pretty well matched with the Penn State offense. The Penn State defense has a decent advantage over the Iowa offense, but that advantage could be neutralized by Iowa's advantage (or perhaps we should call it Penn State's disadvantage) on special teams. It's great to have a defense that can force your opponent into a three-and-out, but when your kickoff coverage allows them to start their drive at the 50-yard line, your offense is going to be in the hole all day.
My overall analysis is that this game will be a lot closer than many people think. But if Penn State can protect the ball and play solid special teams they should win the game.
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Apples = Oranges
You know, I don’t think Akron / Syracuse / Temple are all that different from UNI / ISU / Arizona as a group. It’s not that big of a gap.
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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor
by Run Up The Score on Sep 24, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The point is...
We don’t know how good either of these teams are yet.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 24, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing with Akron
They booted their QB off the team. So I guess any hopes we had of them looking like a respectable MAC team went down the tubes.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 24, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, he got kicked off?
What did he do? I heard he got suspended, but I didn’t realize he REALLY Zugged up.
by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 24, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
He got kicked off. Not sure what he did, but they also dismissed an assistant coach as well. Must be something pretty serious like some NCAA infractions.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 24, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard a story that a phrase akin to “unforgiveable actions” but can’t remember exactly what they said
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...
by letsgopsu on Sep 24, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure it was "unspeakable"
Which sounds AWESOME.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 24, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think it was more unspeakable
Than Sal Aunese knockin up Coach McCartney’s daughter in CO?
Or along the same lines?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 25, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Arizona are the Wildcats, and ISU are the Cyclones
are UNI the Applemen?
Zug, I’m lame…
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 24, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOO! GET OFF THE STAGE!
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 24, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weather
Weather could be a ginormous factor in this game. Saturday and Saturday night are looking pretty wet at this point (the National Weather Service currently calls for a 60% chance of rain Saturday, 80% chance of rain Saturday night). This will make play in the trenches and on punt/kickoff coverage even more vital to success.
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Sep 24, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Special Teams
Penn State special teams just need to come out and smash some people in the mouth. Play like crazy men on coverage and blow up some blocks on returns. A Iowa fumble or a big Penn State return will get the White Out crowd so loud and crazy that no Hawkeye will ever want to hear Zombie Nation again!
“Let’s be the loudest fans in the whole world!”-Joe Paterno
by PhilipsburgPhantom on Sep 24, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Um
I never want to hear Zombie Nation again.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 24, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you should probably never go to a Penn State game again
Not to rehash the whole music argument, but I think that song is like crack to the student section at a whiteout/whitehouse
by PSUJunny05 on Sep 24, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also, it usually indicates a GREAT play
so in that case I wouldn’t mind hearing it through the entire game straight
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 24, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blue Band
I’d rather hear the band too…but we all know that isn’t going to happen because of the great minds behind Penn State Sports marketing.
I LIKE HOT DOGS!!! GO BERKS!!!
I LIKE GROCERIES!!! GO WEIS!!!
Man I really hate the fact that those new ribbon boards only show ads from the corporate sponsors!
by PhilipsburgPhantom on Sep 24, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to pick nits
but doesn’t the blue band play the Zombie Nation? I know they at least used to
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 24, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zombie Nation
I have no gripes with the song….let the band play it…just don’t pipe it in!
by PhilipsburgPhantom on Sep 24, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Zombie Nation is the one song that should always be pumped in. That’s how it started. That’s how it was used in OSU 05 when in whipped the crowd into a rabid frenzy. Only later did the Blue Band adopt it. They can can all the other canned music, but Zombie Nation needs to stay pumped in.
by PSUMark2008 on Sep 24, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Blue Band
They play Zombie Nation at bowl games and such. And when the basketball team is at MSG. :-) When Penn State’s playing at home, I believe Zombie Nation is always always always piped in. Seven Nation Army is always played by the band though.
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Sep 24, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like
Rock and Roll p2 is a joke, the more that Zombie Nation is played in stadiums around the world, the closer it gets to smelling like week old rotting meat.
Time to replace it. Muse Uprising would be a good fit.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Sep 24, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's just me
But I don’t really want my muses rising up. Keep a strong pimp hand in that department, I say.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 24, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You will know it's overdone
When some fan from a mid-major school goes to start up a blog and the best thing he can come up with is Zombie Nation, only to be disappointed to find out there is already a PSU blog with that name.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 24, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate them both.
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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor
by Run Up The Score on Sep 24, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy crap
thought you were dead.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Sep 24, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
All their Zombie Nation are belong to us.
I don’t care if it started in European soccer, OSU 05 made it a PSU tradition, and everyone in the US who’s using it now just stole it from us. It’s overused, so maybe scale it back some, but that doesn’t mean we should get rid of it entirely. There’s still nothing that says “game-altering play” and gets the stadium rocking like Zombie Nation does.
by PSUMark2008 on Sep 24, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a tradition for Michigan fans to be quiet. Doesn’t make it good.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 24, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
True
But we’re talking about the opposite of quiet here. I’m a card carrying Guido hater – I’d be happy if they removed everything “canned” except Zombie Nation and the lion growl, but Zombie Nation, White outs, and this are the only good things that Guido has ever done – let’s not throw out the good with the bad.
by PSUMark2008 on Sep 24, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red zone D is one of Iowa's core strengths.
This is an interesting chart.
Iowa gave up 5 red zone rushing touchdowns last year, second in the country to Auburn. That’s correct. PSU scored 40% of the red zone rushing touchdowns against Iowa over 13 games. Iowa has not given up a rushing touchdown since the third quarter of November 8, 2008. Iowa was 9th in the country in rushing defense. (Who was 8th? PSU. PSU gave up 10 fewer yards over 13 games. These defenses performed identically against the rush.) So that’s, what, 25 quarters now without a rushing td. I doubt that continues against PSU, but it’s an interesting streak that says something about intention and effectiveness.
The scoring defense stat is distorted by a pick six against Ariz. Actual scoring defense is 9.6 per game so far this year.
If one feels charitable, the last score by Arizona was a garbage time score, which puts the adjusted scoring defense mean at 7.3. But I guess I find this stupid. They scored on our defense at the end.
The takeaway is that we play a big play-averse defense. We don’t think college teams can execute 12-15 plays in a drive without making a mistake. When the field shrinks in the red zone, this scheme improves. Further, it’s been 320-odd days since someone has been able to run the ball for a score; you usually have to throw the ball to score once you’re in the red zone. If Iowa run defense is a little softer this year (we’re surprised at the yards that have been put up), it might just be an early season anomaly; we can’t say.
It looks to me that one of two things happens Saturday night:
a) if either team can run the ball, and the other can’t, the game is over. I don’t think this is likely. But it happened in the first half last year; we were gashed, overwhelmed, lucky to be alive.
b) one of the two quarterbacks will be better and his team will win. This was the story of the second half last year, wasn’t it?
I go with b). The defenses are going to play their games, and well. Both O-lines have been unsettled, Royster is better than our backs but we are just tough, just plain tough and smart, against the run. (We’re also confident after outrushing Ringer, McCoy, Royster, and Grigsby in the last 1.3 years.) The quarterbacks are going to have to do it. If either team has three drops by the receivers, that could decide the game.
I’m ignoring turnovers (except Stanzi-balls) and the effects of a monsoon.
Footnotes: Iowa doesn’t do a lot of the things other teams do to generate sacks. So the sack comparison may not mean much. We generally rush four, attempt pressure, and try to force the QB to be accurate against 7 in coverage. That pressure sharply amped up against Arizona.
We haven’t scored a kickoff return TD in 5 years or so, but really, although it would be nice, the guys who return kickoffs are asked politely not to fumble. We’ve been able to win some without kickoff return TDs.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
by Bellanca on Sep 24, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A few notes
first off, who did you guys play on November 8, 2008? I know you said Penn State scored 2 of the rushing TD’s against you, but I think you must be mistaken. Maybe you guys played Penn or something that day? I’m pretty sure we rotated off each other’s schedules and didn’t play last year.
But in all seriousness, wow, Iowa had a pretty stout defense last year (and looks pretty good this year as well). The tough thing about all these pre-season games is stats get both over and under inflated. Inferior opponents (generally…you guys at least had the Wildcats), but also generally a lot of garbage time.
We’ll have to see how the weather affects this game. Both of these teams have been struggling a bit to run the ball (at least struggling to do it as well as they normally do), but with the weather there will likely be adjustments. I always have a hard time deciding who inclement weather really benefits. Yes it is generally an equalizing factor, but I actually think it helps a pass oriented team (as long as the weather isn’t so bad it completely prevents a passing attack). My thoughts are that the WRs know the routes they are running, and when they have to make cuts, while the defense has to react to this, and it is much harder/slower to react on wet ground. But of course it is also harder to throw and catch a wet football.
As for you guys not returning a kickoff in 5 years, and just asking the guys not to fumble the ball, well that appears to be our strategy on punt returns this year, as well.
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 24, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm long-winded, per usual,
but what I really meant to say is that red zone rushing D has been our core strength recently — even moreso than O-line play, imo. (National Football Post disagrees, but that guy is so overwhelmed with Ferentz-love it’s a little creepy. I think we’ll have to pass in order to run, on Saturday.)
So, run the ball, and take away our dominance in red zone rushing D, we lose. You did last year, for three quarters. If you can’t, DC has to win it for you. Just my theory of this game.
NFP on Iowa O-line here . Should be good for a few blue-and-white sweaty palms, if you take it seriously.
Linemen in bunches
“To say the Iowa offensive line dominated the Arizona Wildcats up front is an understatement. The Hawkeyes were without left tackle Bryan Bulaga, but the tandem of Kyle Calloway and Julian Vandervelde on the right side opened up big holes in run game all day. Also, seniors Rafael Eubanks and Dace Richardson played well at center and left guard, respectively. Sure, the Hawkeyes don’t ever win pretty, but if they know how to do two things, it’s run the football and produce talented offensive linemen. If I’m in charge of an NFL scouting department, I would make sure my area scouts know the Iowa offensive line group inside and out.”
Mr. Boh Knows ...
by Bellanca on Sep 24, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not returning a Kickoff return for 5 years?
I had a little to drink before the last Whitehouse against Illinois last year… But I thought Derrick Williams did return a Kickoff? Maybe that’s the alcohol talking?
by dgals79 on Sep 24, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What about Penalties for both teams
it could come down to that
by ChryslerKinnick on Sep 24, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ack
Good point. I meant to include that. Both teams are very low in penalties. Should be a clean game.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 24, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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