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The Morning After - Penn State Falls To Iowa 21-10


First off, gradulations to Iowa. No excuses this year. You came into the soggy whitehouse and put the beatdown on Penn State.

With that out of the way, we now look inward at what went wrong. I said before the game it was going to come down to turnovers and field position. Penn State turned the ball over four times, had a punt blocked, and gave up a safety. It's too hard to win a game in the Big Ten when you perform like that.

Daryll Clark had his worst day as a starter completing only 12-of-32 passes and giving up three interceptions. He's the easy target for the goat in this game, but this was a total team loss. It's not his fault the offensive line gave him 0.3 miliseconds to throw the ball. It's not his fault his receivers like the tip his passes up in the air. It's not his fault they only called one deep throw the rest of the game after completing the first pass for an 80 yard touchdown. It's not his fault the punt coverage team let a man run untouched to block a punt.

In fairness I thought the defense played their hearts out. They clung on to that 10-0 lead as long as they could. But when your six second half drives go Interception, missed field goal, blocked punt returned for a touchdown, interception, fumble, interception, there's only so much you can do. They played short handed with their backs up against the wall all night and really couldn't have done a better job.

There's going to be a lot of soul searching this week. The optimist will say we lost to Iowa last year and still went to the Rose Bowl. What are the odds Daryll Clark and Evan Royster combine for four turnovers again? But I think it's time to lower expectations for this team. This offensive line is clearly not ready for Big Ten play yet. The wide receivers are just not consistent enough. I'm not one of these fans who think the sky is falling and we're not going to win another game, but I'm taking a wait and see approach to this team until I see more consistency.

Fuel up the struggle bus, people. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

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Goat of the Game

Nick Sukay… how do you run in to the punter and then not block on a punt and not get goat of the game. That kid should not see the field till next year.

"Wherever you go, Penn State will go with you. You are now a part of her. Her image will be cast in your image. Your reputation will become her reputation."

by noodlebucket on Sep 27, 2009 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

He didn’t touch the punter, it was a good acting job combined with a terrible call. Also, it looked like he was blocked into the punter by the Iowa lineman. Just an aside, that drive didn’t lead to any points for Iowa which somewhat mitigates the penalty in any case.

by Ibleedblueandwhite on Sep 27, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

that this mitigates the penalty. Without the penalty we get the ball back with good field position and the opportunity to run the two minute drill to go up by two scores. That penalty was huge and though he was blocked into the punter unacceptable.

"Wherever you go, Penn State will go with you. You are now a part of her. Her image will be cast in your image. Your reputation will become her reputation."

by noodlebucket on Sep 27, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sukay

I was at the game so I didn’t have the benefit of replay yet. I thought Sukay was pushed into the punter too, and it was a good acting job by the punter. Like you said, they didn’t get any points out of it, but it also kept our offense from getting the ball in good field position just before the half.

I wasn’t aware he was the one that blew the assignment on the punt block.

by BSD on Sep 27, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

tried to bump the guy a bit then go to defend the return. Just forgot to remember that you have to have to put enough on to him to not let that happen.

"Wherever you go, Penn State will go with you. You are now a part of her. Her image will be cast in your image. Your reputation will become her reputation."

by noodlebucket on Sep 27, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

he released like it was a screen pass

"Wherever you go, Penn State will go with you. You are now a part of her. Her image will be cast in your image. Your reputation will become her reputation."

by noodlebucket on Sep 27, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sukay was not blocked into the punter. He was thrown into the punter. It was one of the more ridiculous acting jobs I’ve seen.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, he should get an oscar...

They should get rid of that penalty. Unless it is blatant roughing then it should be let go.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 27, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

That call was one of the worst I've seen.

He did not touch, I repeat, did not touch the punter. He was laying on the ground, the punter kicked his legs up and fell on top of him.

I would suggest that if they keep the roughing the kicker rule, there also needs to be a penalty for “diving” by the punter.

There were a few other awful calls too.

by WarBird on Sep 27, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much like last year when Sandeman....

….didn’t even TOUCH the PSU punter and got called when your guy flopped.

(Stay classy PSU.)

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 28, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one is arguing that

And no one is blaming the call for the loss.

Go away.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 28, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Oscar goes to.......

Ryan Donahue. That was a crap call and I am an Iowa Fan. Sukay was blocked into the punter and didn’t touch him until Donahue “tripped on him.” Usually those kind of calls happen to Iowa.

Great game. I sincerely hope that PSU wins out the rest of the season. I think once the O-line starts to gel and get meaner, your team is going to be a very tough team to beat. I was very impressed with Moye, he made some fantastic catches.

TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin

by SpoWAHawk on Sep 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for being humble

same to Iowa, if they get everyone healthy on offense, and maintain the great D, you guys are looking at competing for the Big Ten this year, and in all likelihood, probably have the best chance.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 27, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was definitely a shittastic call,

as was the no-call on Hunter’s pass interferance. Like SpoWAHawk said, that shit usually gets called against us.

But whatever. Shit happens. Very sincere best of luck to you guys the rest of the way. PSU is by far my second favorite team (both in the B10 and over all), and I’d love for you to run the table.
And even if you don’t, just fucking beat aOSU. I hate those guys. Michigan too. Oh – and Illinois.

You guys have a great team. Don’t hit that panic button just yet. aOSU is waaaaay more vulnerable than they (or their cracker-ass fans) think they are.

by Bucketochicken on Sep 27, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting rule - I did not know this

But apparently, NCAA rules stipulate that being blocked into a punter still warrants a flag on the defender:

A defensive player legally blocked into the kicker or holder by a
member of the kicking team is not exempt from fouls for running into
or roughing the kicker or holder. A defensive player illegally blocked
into the kicker or holder by a member of the kicking team is exempt
from fouls for running into or roughing the kicker or holder.

LINK: http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uploads/PDF/Football_Rules_5_2204c0005d-845f-4813-8391-54f15136079d.pdf

Also, this seems like a stupid rule.

Of course, there’s also this:

A kicker or holder simulating being roughed or run into by a defensive
player commits an unsportsmanlike act (A.R. 9-1-4-V).

by Bucketochicken on Sep 27, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clark – I don’t doubt his heart, but he just isn’t very good, extremely disappointing. Don’t blame the receivers, they did the best they could trying to pull in poorly thrown balls. Sadest part is that for a senior QB, he is by far the best we have. I’d at least expect better poise and decision making. Laughable how you kool-aid drinkers were multipling his Akron numbers to calculate season totals worthy of Heismann.

Coaching – Terrible offensive plan. Didn’t we notice from scouting how good their D-line was and how tough of a time we would have with it? Have we never encountered an over powering lineman before? In game adjustments – haven’t seen any for decades now!!!

Finally, when is last time Penn State won as a (signifigant) underdog. Doesn’t seem to ever happen. But it sure does go the other way much too often.

by jabama on Sep 27, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Take you “kool-aid drinkers” crap back to PennLive.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clark wasn't that bad

and I repeat that the O-line wasn’t that bad either… we left too many plays on the field, especially the crappy turnovers to really quantify how good or bad these guys are, especially in horrible horrible conditions.

I do have to agree that our coaching never seems to have any flair or at least our kids never seem to be prepared to play with any.

And jabama also brings up a good point— when was the last time we upset a team as a significant underdog?

by WarBird on Sep 27, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

'05 Ohio State, maybe '05 Minnesota.

It’s not entirely fair to make the comment, since PSU hasn’t been a significant underdog in a while.

by Cairo on Sep 27, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

What you said

And I don’t know why we’re even discussing this.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fine

That means I win a nonexistent blog argument, right? One point for Cairo!

by Cairo on Sep 28, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

This game can't be pinned on Clark

He hasn’t been the same since the OSU concussion, but we still know he’s not that bad. When you have two seconds to throw the ball before getting sacked on nearly every play; honestly, how much can you do? We lost the game because of our O line. Better O line = Clark has more time to make better throws and Royster and Green can do a whole lot more. Apparently Gerald Cadogan was at the game and getting very, VERY frustrated. I don’t blame him. Too bad he couldn’t have been on the field…

by PSUMark2008 on Sep 27, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see that Drew Anderson had a nice game.

Of course I'm home. I'm always home. I'm uncool.

by WestPointLion on Sep 27, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

thank God I gave those tickets away and watch from home...

That was one of those games I could tell we were going to lose from half way thru the 3rd quarter, even before they got the lead. Our defense played great, even with the loss of Lee — and we even saw a great performance from freshman CB Stephon Morris. As long as our defense continues to play like that we’re still going to win a lot of games this season; once Lee returns and Bowman gets back to full speed I think that’s a top 10 defense. They played their heart out and had the offense not put them in terrible positions this would have been reflected on the score board.

Offensively we were shamefully bad — but you have give Iowa all the credit: they played us to near perfection.

If I had to draw up one single play I think could have changed the course of the game, it was Royster’s fumble. That was shaping up to be a momentum changing drive off a great return when were down by only 8. Royster broke off a great run and… Well I’m less bothered by Clark’s interceptions then I am about that one fumble — b/c I expected Royster to carry the team when we need it most (OSU last year).

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Sep 27, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I totally agree with Morris - that kid played with some spunk.

It was good to see the little guy blast a receiver behind the line just cause.

by psume06 on Sep 27, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really, props to the Defense

They played their hearts out, and kept the game the odd score that it was for so long (10-5). Even without Lee, they showed that they are a top ten quality defense (with a few minor hitches), and they deserve all the credit for keeping us in the game as long as we did, as close as we did as the offense was sputtering.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 27, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not ready to give up...

Reasonable expectations are 10-2 and playing in the Orange Bowl. I think we lose to tOSU. We won’t be able to block their d-line.

First and foremost, Hats off to Iowa, they kicked our butts after the 1st quarter. Great job Iowa, you are the better team. The conference is more than likely a two team race between tOSU and Iowa. At 6-2 (my projected record), we can’t win the conference.

A couple thoughts…

1. Tip balls are part WR fault, but also part QB because the ball is usually not thrown accurately.

2. I think it is time to get Eric Shrive and Kevin Newsome some meaningful time. Shrive should play multiple series at one of the tackle positions so he is ready to be the stud LT next year. Newsome also needs to see meaningful time, whether it is running the wildcat or not, he just needs to get experience. I think he is the real deal despite the Syracuse outing. Great speed and the passing will come.

3. Let’s look at something positive…Navarro Bowman is back and was everywhere.

4. The secondary is coming on very well. They are gelling….plus I saw D’Anton Lynn on a corner blitz. When was the last time you saw that?

5. The whole defense did play their guts out and when you have a great defense, you always have a chance.

6. The running the kicker call was horrible….horrible….horrible. I know it didn’t result in direct points, but took a possession away from us.

WE ARE.......PENN STATE!

by Nick7 on Sep 27, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

corner blitz

i can’t for the life of me remember when psu has used a corner blitz. personally, i love them. the eagles have used them quite a bit with sheldon brown over the past few years with noted success.

and yes, our defense showed up last night. i put blame on coaching philosophy.

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Sep 27, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

That blitz was OBVIOUS.

I have no idea how Iowa didn’t pick that up.

by psume06 on Sep 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Newsome

Glad you said it. I’m not saying we should relegate Clark to the bench. But this year’s team just might not have it, if we aren’t a b10 champion caliber team then we need to think about the future. We cannot go into next season with Newsome getting no first team snaps, against first team defenses.

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

I still admire Clark and will stand behind him no matter what. He’s still no Morelli, even with an extremely poor performance in this game, to which all the blame can’t be placed on his shoulders.

But I do agree about Newsome. The kid needs to develop if we’re going to have any shot at being good next year (even with Jones-Bolden possibly coming in, b/c you know Joe is going to yield to the Soph, unless he REALLY sucks). I’d like to see him get in with the first string O-line to give him a little more time to analyze, think and make good decisions before he throws. Nothing fancy. Allow him to make some short easy passes. Maybe throw in a sneak if he’s doing well, and let him practice handoffs with the first team RBs, and throw to the 1st team WR. He needs to develop and getting junk time with the second team line and receivers isn’t going to help. After the game is in hand, then get the rest of the second team guys some reps.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 27, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think Bolden

has a good chance to win the spot next year, from what I’ve seen. He’ll have to be really good to so though or else Newsome will definitely win with the experience. Prior to Iowa I thought for sure we were going to have a lot of time to get Newsome some reps vs. both Illinois and Eastern Illinois but now I’m not so confident about that. Maybe some though. Eastern Illinois is shaping up to be a strong FCS team, having won all four of their games by a combined score of 115 – 40. Not saying we lose, but we probably won’t have as much garbage time as we could have had, had we been as good as we thought we were.

by PSUisMyHeart on Sep 27, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The play calling baffled me....

The series that resulted in the safety was horrible. Wide run play, a full back blast and then a slow developing pass play.

Your o-line is getting rocked and you don’t start running multiple screen plays? I remember only one screen call and Clark threw the ball to high and hard for Royster to handle. Also, why not some slant routes off three step drops?

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 27, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Not inconceivable that Iowa is the better team...

and Klug is a stud. The defense for PSU played well enough to win. The offense didn’t show up/was overmatched and special teams were a disaster.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 27, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Running plays

At the game, it really seemed like PSU was doing a half decent job runnign the ball. It seemed after the 1Q was over they were trying to win the game through the air. Maybe it looked differently on TV, but it just seemed like it was time for Joe to take over the playcalling.

"I feel like I'm taking crazy pills! I invented the piano key necktie, I invented it!" - Mugatu

by Captain Hairdo on Sep 27, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I was very disappointed when we tried to air it out on one 3rd and short.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's inconceivable, isn't it,

that Iowa was a better team. Because that’s the tenor here.

Personally, I’d rather try to cut-block a Humvee than Clayborn.

You may have missed it but Klug, our DT with the 36" waist, is so relentless that he recovered the last fumble in our secondary, and deflected the last Clark interception after being blocked successfully — twice.

Guys, it was all there going into this game: we are now 29 quarters without yielding a rush TD, we had won 7 in a row, we made South Carolina look they were playing football in their stocking feet, we destroyed two major program QBs in the two prior games (they both were yanked), we are the only team in D-I that explicitly brings pressure with four d-linemen, and our QB, for all of his foibles, is 12-3, career. We were plus 30 in turnovers last year, and you still wonder why Angerer was able to punch the ball out of Royster’s arm. (Because he is coached to do that?) It just amazes me, but I have concluded that it’s simply cultural, and since Iowa is a kind of unfashionable, underpopulated place (and Pennsylvania is what, Trafalgar Square?), it is therefore, in the age of TV Tebow, inconceivable that a team sport could be played well by a team that is coached well.

Anyway, I would ditch this mishmash you call the Spread HD and get yourself an identity and a core competency on offense, so you have something to depend on in close games.

I thought PSU wideouts were far superior to ours (we had 6-7 passes touch and bounce off hands), PSU linebackers tackle as great as ever, and the PSU fans a great mix of enthusiasm and bravado. It is possible, one might admit, that we were better in the other departments.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Sep 27, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

I think most of us accept that Iowa was better....

What’s harder for us to swallow is that we played so bad on offense. Your defense did a heck of a job, but receivers need to hall in those high passes. Clark needs to make better reads to avoid tipped balls. The playcalling when we were backed up was stupid…just run it up the gut, punt and live to see another down.

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 27, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Receivers do need to catch those high passes

but Clark needs to stop throwing high. Tipped passes and interceptions result from throwing irratically high, as we saw from both Iowa games the last two years.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 27, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clark threw high all game

because he was back-peddling. Tom Brady throws high when he’s back peddling (see NE v. Jets).

This is the oldest defensive game plan in the book. When playing a team that relies on drop back passing, you must bring PRESSURE. There is not a single QB in the Big Ten that could have handled that pressure last night. Iowa was knocking guys into the 2nd row, they were physical, powerful (you did see Clayborn throw the OT to the side with one hand?) and faster. What was the difference is that we brought that pressure with 4 guys. That’s it. Everyone else went into coverage. It must have looked like Iowa was playing with 16 guys to Clark.

Karl Klug is an animal. Next game we’re going to bring him in a cage. -- Adrian Clayborn

by StoopsMyAss on Sep 27, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

we're well aware of your strategy on defense...

because its pretty much the same thing PSU does. This year’s line isn’t as strong as last years, because we have new ends. Usually two guys need to account for Odrick, which helps the ends get pressure. Part of the reason Maybin had so much success last year.

Basically we were beaten at our own game.

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dickhead

I don’t think there are many people here that AREN’T recognizing that Iowa was better yesterday. So just let it go. Iowa won. Get over yourself.

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by 06Lion on Sep 27, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude are you serious?

Have you read any of this before spouting off? Everyone who watched the game recognizes we got our tails kicked. Don’t make the mistake of thinking just because we’re pointing out our shortcomings it means we’re making excuses. Penn State played a terrible game. This is a Penn State blog, so we’re going to pick it apart. But the bottom line is Iowa was the better team last night. Congrats. Iowa just has our number.

by BSD on Sep 27, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, we get reminded of our shortcomings all the time.

I read even this morning about Iowa’s game against UNI. So we’re okay with the constructive criticism. It can be therapeutic. So hang in there.

Karl Klug is an animal. Next game we’re going to bring him in a cage. -- Adrian Clayborn

by StoopsMyAss on Sep 27, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

go away

"Wherever you go, Penn State will go with you. You are now a part of her. Her image will be cast in your image. Your reputation will become her reputation."

by noodlebucket on Sep 27, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody going to Illinois next week?

Bleeding blue and white and black and gold.

by raimman on Sep 27, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Mandatory positive post about the defense...

I need to get the negativity out of my system so here we go…

-Our defense is legit. Top 10 again I’d say and its really amazing how we can reload on that side of the ball with little drop off from previous years.

-Bowman looked great. You realize how special he is when you watch him read the running lanes patiently and cut diagonally to make the stop. Previously, I thought his strengths were pure physical dominance, but I realize now how smart of a player he is. I can’t wait till Lee gets himself together. Hopefully some rest for the both of them before heavy practice this week.

-Secondary is coming along. Sure we gave up the typical BBDS underneath stuff. But I saw us (gasp) in man coverage at times (was it Lynn) and there was a nice DB blitz. Again was that Lynn?

I felt a little ‘06/’07 nostalgia when watching this game. The overall feeling that the defense was going to keep us in it but the offense was never going to help them out. The difference being that psu played with the lead first tonight. I hope that changes around this year, though. The offensive talent is good except on the line. Those guys need to grow up.

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 27, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I have no complaints with the defense

And I thought the secondary did allrite.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

SPEAKING OF THE OFFENSIVE LINE

Why are we unable to reload at such a crucial position like we are in other aspects of our program?

The Big Ten schedule demands a strong and consistent O-line.. and we seem to have only a decent one every 3 or so years.

I would submit that this has been our main problem throughout our entire BIg 10 tenure.

by WarBird on Sep 27, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

O line...

two words…..ERIC SHRIVE! If he is not better than Landolt or Pannell, I feel bad for Newsome, PJ, and Bolden over the next couple years.

Last year’s line was special and a drop off is expected, but I didn’t think this far. These guys are talented, just don’t have chemistry like last year. In fact, the whole offense doesn’t have chemistry and I partially fault Clark for that as a leader. I think the line will be extremely strong the next 4 years, this is the learning year.

On the other side, as much as Clark is not building chemistry with the O….Sean Lee is building chemistry on the defense. Even though Lee didn’t play, he was in that game as much as anyone. That kid is so special and should be an all-time PSU guy much like Poz and Conlan. The defense has really come together. The only part I don’t like is the safety play and I would like to see Hodges getting some additional time. Imagine next year’s secondary with Lynn and Morris at CB and Hodges at safety. That is scary good.

WE ARE.......PENN STATE!

by Nick7 on Sep 27, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, Shrive is hurt and will most likely red shirt

Let's Go State

by rmcmillen50 on Sep 27, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

OFF-TOPIC

I wasn’t watching the Florida-Kentucky game. What was the score when Meyer decided to keep passing, and was he justified in doing so?

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Not sure

I turned it off once it was over 30 to zip in the first half. Can’t say I really agree with his decision to leave zOMG MESSIAH TEBOW in the game, and had to halfway grin when it bit Urban in the ass. You know he only had him in there to pad his Heisman stats. Sucks for Tebow, didn’t want to see him hurt, but Urban is a jabroni.

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by 06Lion on Sep 27, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

31-7.

--
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by Run Up The Score on Sep 27, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

No

I get the feeling, not that anyone would admit it, that he was in there so his stats would look better for the Heisman hype

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Sep 27, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pre-season

Lions are now 2-8 in their last 10 Big Ten openers — how about if we get a big test before the Big ten season like most top schools do. This is like our basketball scheduling strategy — cupcake wins mean nothing.

by Seattle Lion on Sep 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

AAAAARRRRRGHHH!!!!!!

2000 – USC
2001 – Miami
2002 – Nebraska
2003 – Nebraska and Boston College
2004 – Boston College
2005 – none (Alabama had NCAA issues and pussied out, so now we have to play them when they’re good)
2006 – Notre Dame
2007 – Notre Dame
2008 – Oregon State (whom we scheduled when we realized our OOC schedule was bad)

You were saying?

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's showing

the potential for ONE decent OOC game per year. Most teams manage two. Some years the ONE team doesn’t pan out, like ND in ’07 and Syracuse this year, and we have more of this with Virginia coming up.

by Joe 96alum on Sep 27, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not arguing over this crap right now

I was responding to Seattle Lion’s post that we don’t schedule even a single quality OOC team.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Florida's OOC

Have you checked out their joke of a schedule? At least Syracuse is occasionally good. The OOC isn’t why they lost to Iowa.

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by Captain Hairdo on Sep 27, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIXED

Most teams manage one.

by Aaron PSU on Sep 27, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought a lot about the game this morning...

and it hurt too much so I am going to deal with the hang over (both game and booze) the only way I know. I will see how many bloody marys I can drink today. Over Under is at 12 I will report back in a couple hours.

"Wherever you go, Penn State will go with you. You are now a part of her. Her image will be cast in your image. Your reputation will become her reputation."

by noodlebucket on Sep 27, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

The coaching staff

needs to decide whether this will be a team that will run to set up the pass, or pass to set up the run, and game plan and use personnel accordingly. And stop running Green up the middle already. They also seem to be reluctant to go back to plays that work, I thought they could have used some more quick hitters up the middle to offset the D-line rush. Bottom line is you can’t turn it over that much and expect to win.

by Joe 96alum on Sep 27, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Quarless...

has been effective. He’s got a great sense of field position, hence his nice juke for the first down. In tight games like this, he must be used more. Unfortunately Clark was under throwing him at some key moments.

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 27, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Polls are out

The AP has Iowa at #13, us at #15.

The coaches somehow have PSU at #13 and Iowa at #17.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I predicted..

That we’d be in between 15-20. Very generous on both accounts.

But then again, this weekend was crazy…did 5 top 10 teams get upset?

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 27, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is actually where I wanted to be all along

I HATED being #5. It was undeserved, and I had that sinking feeling in my stomach as soon as we moved up so quick. I’m fine with this. I think we’re better than those behind us, and are right where we belong in the middle of the road.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 27, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

the interceptions that Clark threw did not come while under great pressure.

Royster probably should have caught the second one. And the third was tipped at the LOS as Clark stepped up nicely away from pressure. the first one was a terrible throw and read.
Clark’s an accomplished senior who has to make up for some the inexperience we have elsewhere. He clearly gets shaken by pressure (as Herbstreit noted) and doesn’t handle adversity very well. Our most accomplished and experienced guys on offense (Royster and Clark) need to play better. I don’t expect Pannell and Moye to carry them. It should be the other way around.

by gabbygold on Sep 27, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Pressure

This was a pretty big load of crap in my mind. I felt you could easily count to three-four on most drop backs. Clark was bouncing around, not getting rid of the ball. The pressure wasn’t getting to him, it’s that they were rushing the ends up field so he couldn’t bounce it outside. He obviously wasn’t comfortable like that, and he did nothing but get skittish and make mistakes.

I saw two average teams last night, both playing tight, and the opponent doing it better. I don’t think either of these teams are great. Solid, fine, but not great. If one of these teams is more than a middle of the pack team, then the b10 is truly in trouble.

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

clark is very good throwing on the run...

and I don’t really think he was able to do that because of their ends.

On the other hand those situations should permit more stuff up the middle. Like the read-option or a delayed handoff to Royster. Our guard play wasn’t letting that happen though because when we tried it, we’d get pulled down at the LOS.

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

My .02 cents

The defense played their @$$es off last night. Josh Hull really needs to stop being so bang or bust. We missed both Lee and Stupar last night. Can’t knock the D at all last night.

Special Teams- Collin Wagner needs to go period. 48yard field missed short…. not to mention who ever is doing kickoffs blows. Let Fera kick or atleast kick off. How did the first couple of punts go fine then everyone fall asleep on the last one?

Offense- this was all around failure. Coaching, players etc. Clark needs to stop throwing so damn high. 2 of the picks were deflections but they were because they were high thrown balls. The line needs to gel and gel QUICK. They looked terrible as the game rolled on.

by cmdpsu15 on Sep 27, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Deflated

Well hopefully we can learn from our mistakes, of which there were many.

Just some of the things I saw in the game:

The O-line was horrible, they couldn’t block the pass rush all night and their run blocking was suspect when we actually chose to run. There needs to be major changes made to that line because clearly the current configuration doesn’t have the talent together to play Big 10 football, or most of our OOC teams either for that matter. So far all season I’ve seen Clark have to rush his throws or get knocked over on nearly every screen pass.

Clark, easy to put the blame on his with the 3 ints. Two were deflections, the blame is shared on those. The other int was horrible, right into the guy’s arms, I don’t think anyone was close. His aim was off all night and he consistently threw into double or triple coverage. He was constantly getting hit and knocked over or being rushed due to the O-Line.

I can’t really think of much to say about Royster, as probably our best player on offense they just didn’t (and haven’t) called his number enough so far. The fumble sucked but I guess he felt like he needed to keep up the feel of the game.

The D-line wasn’t able to apply much pressure at all, when a blitz was called it was very successful but the coaches didn’t call them often enough.

Hull had a couple big plays but his missed tackles really subtracted from the quality plays he had. Bowman was everywhere and to me seemed like the only played on defense who showed any heart when the game started to go south. When the others appeared to be giving up Bowman was still flying across the field and making plays. The secondary wasn’t great but that’s part of our scheme.

Wagner needs to be spelled a little. His kickoffs are horrible and Iowa was constantly getting the ball around the 35 yard line since he could barely kick it past the 20. Which also leads me to wonder why we even attempted the 48 yarder in the same direction Wagner was struggling. It should have been a pooch kick any maybe we could have pinned them down on the 5. Give Fera a chance, he certainly can’t be worse.

Officiating was horrible, I don’t know if the punter was touched or not but to everyone in the stands it certainly appeared that whoever it was, was thrown or blocked directly into him which in my understanding of the rules isn’t a penalty, just a dumb move by the protection. A couple late hits went uncalled as well holding on Iowa, which they did all the time.

Play calling was horrible. This is a game that should have been won on the ground, not through the air in those conditions. The play calls both time we were deep in our own territory were horrible too. Running a stretch from the 2? Most of the time that isn’t going to work anyway and when it doesn’t it’s usually a loss, hats off to Royster for pushing himself back onto the field instead of taking the safety. A screen pass would have been way more effective.

Iowa was flat out the best team on the field yesterday and deserved that win. There is a lot we can learn from this as we move on in our Big-10 schedule.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Sep 27, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Was at the game last night

I felt as if once Wagner missed that field goal the crowd just dropped out of the game. You could tell Clack had no time to do anything. Then at the end you could they were just trying to hard. Iowa had our number and great job to them.

What I don’t understand is why we didn’t try any more of the plays that we tried like the first play of the game. We found out that we could not run on them due to the line. I thought our main concern this year was going to be the line nd I think I am right.

by jetskijoe on Sep 27, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

The Ohio State game is looking dangerous. . .

That d-line is monstrous, and the Penn State o-line looks marshmellow soft. Unless something changes drastically between now and October, it’s looking ugly.

by AgnosticTheocrat on Sep 27, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Well we do have games inbetween them for learning

We may struggle, but since that “experience trumps everything” mentality, we still have a ways to go before November.

Unfortunately, none of our games in between now and then face any defenses of Iowa or tOSU’s calibur, but will give us more experience on the line and time to try to turn the struggle bus.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 27, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm able to finally talk about last night

We looked like Akron last night except our big TD came on the game’s first play. If we by some chance end up in the rose bowl against USC please evryone band together and help convince Clark that he doesn’t have to redeem himself after last year’s loss(that mind set can only get us so far),
Four D-Linemen vs 5 O-linemen turned out to be a horrible equation for us last night and even when they didn’t break through their hands were up or they had Clark skiddish enough that he wouldn’t set his feet to throw.
 I’m sure its been brought up somewhere but i think Herbsrtiet’s ideal man would be Iowa’s punter with Darryl Clark’s arms…THAT WAS CREEPY!
Nick Sukay you’re young and inexperienced and i pray for your improvement
Andrew Quarrless welcome to your potential, we’ve been expecting you
Derrick Moye i’m pretty sure that if you played in the big 12 you’d be well on your way to holding out from the 49ers for an entire season
And finally, much to my dismay i awoke this morning and the world went on after the loss so i guess i can to, Juice anyone?

Because it's a Bowl Game!!
-My wife when asked why she didn't tell me she was having contractions Jan. 1 2007

by Grainey on Sep 27, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

DC17

I actually thought about this yesterday. If I ever bump into him on the street or something (I have before, but just walking to class), I just want to tell him to just relax out there, try to have fun and not put the world on your shoulders. Last year’s two losses hurt, but is anyone here actually disappointed with last year? I know I’m not. It was my first year at UPark, and made for a great semester’s worth of football, and the most memorable semester of my college career so far.

I do not blame him for last years losses, or Saturday’s lost, I’m sure he’s been told by his coaches, teammates, etc. but if I could sit down one on one with him I’d look him in the eye and tell him to enjoy himself. Don’t beat yourself up about losses (especially to teams with talent like the ones we’ve played). Keep focused, but don’t think that any Penn State fan holds you responsible for a loss, because we don’t, or at least we shouldn’t. The past is the past, so don’t let it haunt you because you think you owe the Nittany Nation something for losing three games in your season and a quarter of being the starting QB for the Nittany Lions. If anything, we owe you for the fantastic season you gave us last year, as a first year starter, no less. Keep your head up, and looking at what’s ahead, not what’s already happened. We need you, and we’re behind you 110%.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 29, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I facebook friended him

so I could tell him that, unfortunately I forgot to put in the personal message before I hit friend and it was right after the Iowa loss so he probably thinks I’m some guy trying to yell at him for the Iowa loss and he hasn’t accepted my friend request yet.

Anyway someone should definitely do that, now that I can’t, until he friends me.

by PSUisMyHeart on Sep 29, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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