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Grading The Offense: Nittany Lions Put The Turd In Saturday

Iowa's Broderick Binns (91) closes in on Penn State quarterback Daryll Clark (17)  during the first half of an NCAA college football game, Saturday, Sept. 26, 2009, in State College, Pa. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

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about 1 month ago: Iowa's Broderick Binns (91) closes in on Penn State quarterback Daryll Clark (17) during the first half of an NCAA college football game, Saturday, Sept. 26, 2009, in State College, Pa. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

Seemed like it would be a pretty easy night after that first offensive play from scrimmage and the 20-play, ten-plus minute field goal drive, didn't it?

First, the drive chart (from espn.com):

 

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When you hear the old cliche about football games being won in the trenches, Exhibit A should be Saturday night's game.  On the 20-play drive, Penn State wasn't necessarily dominating Iowa's defensive line, but was certainly getting a consistent push.  That trend slowly eroded toward the end of the drive, as Iowa generated increased pressure on Clark when Penn State entered the red zone.  You can see what happened throughout the rest of the game.

Quarterback Grade: D.  The numbers are horrific. 12/32, 198 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT.  The opening strike to Chaz Powell was a thing of beauty, and Clark was perfectly fine on the field goal drive.  As Iowa began getting pressure on Clark, however, he clearly couldn't deal with it.  By the second half, Clark was simply imagining pressure in the rare instances that Iowa's defensive linemen weren't in the backfield.  This led to a number of plainly awful throws on what should've been relatively simple throws.  Even on Clark's final interception, which was deflected at the line by the tenacious Karl Klug, Clark tried to impossibly fit the ball into an area between three Iowa defenders.  It never would've had a chance even if Klug didn't get a piece of it.  Clark remains an above-average college quarterback, but he just doesn't perform well when things start to break down around him.  Too many physical and mental mistakes under pressure.  He's not a superstar, and it's time to acknowledge it.

Star-divide

 

Running Backs Grade: C-.  Royster ran for 69 yards on 17 carries, but his fourth quarter fumble squashed Penn State's last, best chance at tying the game.  It seems that the lack of blocking has taken its toll on Royster's decision making, as well.  He's known for making the right cut at the right time, but it's not happening for him so far this season. His mishandling of a short Clark pass led to a backbreaking interception. Stephfon Green got a few series as the feature back.  Nothing really happened.

 

Spectacular 100mph Train Crash Test (via diagonaluk)

Offensive Line Grade:  D-.  Yes, Iowa deserves credit here, but it's hard to oversell how awful Penn State's offensive line was in the final three quarters of the game.  DeOnt'ae Pannell was utterly owned by Broderick Binns on two plays, the second of which led to Iowa's safety.  Nerraw McCormack came in for Pannell on the next series and promptly drew a holding penalty that wiped out a big gain to Derek MoyeStefen Wisniewski often looked lost, and his shotgun snaps are still consistently low, making Clark work a little harder to scan the field.  His move to center seems like a worse idea as the weeks go by.  This section could go on forever, so here's the summary:  too often, the offensive line doesn't know who to block, and when they do know their assignments, they aren't getting the job done with alarming frequency.  Temple caused them problems, so it's no surprise that Iowa blew them up.  Spells big trouble against a team like Ohio State.

 

Wide Receivers:  B-.  Hard to get a read on their performance because there were so many breakdowns by the offensive line and quarterback.  Chaz Powell created nice separation on his long touchdown catch and run.  Derek Moye still looks very, very good.  Everyone else was missing in action.

 

Coaching Grade: D.  Hey, it's easy to say that the players on the offensive line aren't getting the job done, but it's up to the coaching staff to get the proper personnel on the field and make adjustments in protection.  That never happened.  Passing plays often too slow to develop, given the pressure that was being put on Clark.  A stunning lack of emotion on the field, even when things were still going well.

 

Next Week:  Illinois' defense was bad before they lost Martez Wilson for the season.  If Penn State can't move the ball and score points against them, start planning on a third-tier bowl game in Orlando or Tampa.

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that train will be Lee busting through Illinois o-line next week

by PSUBarge on Sep 27, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

O-Line: F QB: C-

You’re too harsh on DC. Pressure starts with the O-Line. DC was obviously frazzled and I don’t know of a single QB in NCAA, CFL, NFL who could pull it off with an O-Line like this.

He also ran with the ball, which shows a lot of guts to make something happen.

by Mr. Rosewater on Sep 27, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agree

When your offensive line’s performance can be rated as “unmitigated disaster” it’s difficult to know how bad the QB play was.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Sep 27, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't agree at all

Oline was bad, fine. But the clock in DCs head was both going off too early and not going off at all. He was dancing and bailing before there was even pressure, and still he didn’t get rid of it before someone did get there. He had time and room to stay in the pocket, step up and get rid of the ball on plenty of plays. Either the coverage was too good, or he was too skittish. TV didn’t allow me to see what the coverage downfield looked like.

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 27, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree on the clock part

Another thing: I am by no means a football technician but if you have smaller linemen, wouldn’t screen plays be a more effective option? I was at the game and can’t remember one single screen play. But I also had endzone seats so I couldn’t get a clear read (was also buzzed from something called “beer”)

by Mr. Rosewater on Sep 28, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Clark.

He feels like a leader. And I want more of that at the QB position, because I feel like #14 was lacking in that category. But his skills aren’t what we thought they were. I hope I hear less about that “but he was concussed last year at Iowa” excuse. He tries to do too much, and doesn’t make smart decisions.

And the O-Line must not like him because they refuse to help.

It's been a long, a long time coming
But I know a change gonna come, oh yes it will-Sam Cooke

by OMEGAMAN on Sep 27, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw

  quite a few fans leaving the stadium at halftime.

by penntatefan on Sep 27, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I noticed the same thing

Very disappointing. Also disappointed in the lack of “White House” and all the signs that said “Welcome to the Great Show” as we were walking out after a loss. Need to repost the rant from last year warning folks not to wear orange pancos or hunting jackets during the white out game. Also – how late does the game have to start for the seniors to get there in time for kick-off?

by dontcallmescooter on Sep 28, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seniors were there

Juniors were the embarassing disgrace that should have their tickets revoked for this season and the next.

by PSUMark2008 on Sep 28, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was the juniors for the first 3 games also.

Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...

by letsgopsu on Sep 28, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was it

the rain or loss of interest b/c they saw this movie before and know how it ends?

by penntatefan on Sep 27, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm hoping rain

If they left at the half because they were scared of the ending, then they shouldn’t be allowed back in the stadium.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either way

unless they’re an 82 year old woman or they found out their son was in the hospital or something, there’s no excuse for leaving early. Support your team people.

by PSUMark2008 on Sep 28, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clark / coaching

My wife was wondering:
when Clark was struggling clearly getting down on himself,and sitting alone,
why is there no one, like a coach, to talk to him on the sideline to help him out;
to try to get him ready for the next critical series?

Last year he at least had A.Q. Just because he is a senior and a captain
is there no one who can try to help him get his head straightened out during the game?

by confirmy on Sep 27, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point

I was at the game so I didn’t notice this, but if your QBs head isn’t right…you either have to do something about it during the time you have on the sideline or get him out of there. No matter who the guy is. Vince Young is a talented QB who’s head isn’t always where it needs to be so he holds the clipboard. Someone, either a player, coach, waterboy, whoever…needs to be in this guy’s ear telling him everything is gonna be alright.

by jimbo2psu on Sep 27, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

That is a VERY good point. But I don’t know who would do it.

Lee is the only player on the team with more leadership/experience, but he’s either on the field or coaching when DC isn’t playing. But seriously, there has to be SOMEONE who can build him up when he’s losing confidence.

by PSUMark2008 on Sep 28, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching - Here is what bothers me....

I mean it is obvious Clark had no time to throw the ball. Has the PSU coaching staff ever watching UT play? I think Colt typically has the ball in his hand for about 1 second before he throws every play.

Did we even try and run any quick slants or anything like that? Did we ever change our gameplan at all once we saw our O-line was terrible. We didn’t really roll Clark out all that much. We just threw on first down and let him take a three step drop and throw an incompletion. We ran on second down. And then lost yards or thew an interception on third down.

DC is a good qb. We have had a lot worse. I just can’t figure out why PSU never does anything to adapt to what the other team throws at them.

At least we lost early this year – I won’t have to be so nervous for the rest of the season.

by ilovejoe on Sep 27, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is it

always the O-line? I’m thinking of the game against Michigan a couple of years ago where all the QB’s got knocked out. Is it scheme or personnel?

by Joe 96alum on Sep 27, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's got to be the scheme and the coaching!

Other teams recruit less athletic “studs” than we do and many become productive early on. I’m thinking of Louisville (when they were good a few years ago), WVU, Cinci or hell, even Michigan from last year to this. Their kids start as Freshmen/Sophomores and seem to be productive.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Sep 27, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The O-line is probably the weakest part of our program.

We seem incapable of reloading at the O-line position more than any other part of the team. Linebackers, D-line, WRs, Secondary,… every year we have solid guys who can step in.

I’m hoping it’s premature and these guys are just going to get better through experience.

by WarBird on Sep 27, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Zug was owned by #19

A total non-factor. He could barely get off the line of scrimmage. Right away, we were playing 10 on 11 football.

by Dinsdale on Sep 27, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

#19 is Spievey

Aside from the first play, he was dominating as usual.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I wasn’t expecting anything from whomever lined up on Spievey.

We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.

by psuwxman on Sep 27, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the game with my girlfriend

(Sorry, no pictures of SOA here)

And even she turned to me at one point and said, “It really seems like Daryll Clark is trying to do too much, he looks so uncomfortable out there. He needs to relax.” She’s smart, but she doesn’t know much about football other than Tom Brady is hot and Gerald Cadogan now plays for the Patriots.

I knew it was going to get bad when she noticed it too.

We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.

by psuwxman on Sep 27, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You sound hot.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I felt like Clark was trying to make up for last year's loss

And single-handedly win this game. I don’t really know why or how to explain it, but it just seemed that way to me. Like when he was forcing bad throws, etc. He just needed to relax.

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Sep 27, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Gerald Cadogan now plays for the Patriots."

Wait, really? I just googled this and couldn’t find anything.

by PSUMark2008 on Sep 28, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cads is with Carolina / he meant Rich Orhn…

"...Drink'n Blue Kool - Aid; One Sip @ a Time..."

by BlueWhiteLife on Sep 28, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops.

Sorry.

I guess I’ll have to think twice before trusting her Patriots knowledge after all lol.

We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.

by psuwxman on Sep 28, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately

Cads is no longer with Carolina. He got cut. That’s why I was so excited to hear he got picked up by the Patriots but I guess not…

by PSUMark2008 on Sep 28, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For some reason it takes the Oline the longest to develop at PSU...

I can remember in ’06 when people were calling Cadogan and Ohrnberger “horrible.” By the time mid-season ’07 rolled around, those two (and that line) were about as solid as you could want.

I’m thinking that the depth chart is a little thin or the freshies just aren’t ready. McShay has been saying he thinks its a general lack of talent, and who knows…maybe he’s accurate..even though I don’t like to credit him with anything.

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 27, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is McShay the one who called last year’s line (the line featuring a center who was praised for essentially owning Rey Maualuga) overrated?

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 27, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could be right...

but I could care less about McShay. The point is I think its more developmental than talent. Hence last year’s line being really awesome after being unspectacular for the ’06 season.

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 27, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's frustrating

Is that I feel confident that the o-line will be ready by 2010, but we’ll have a redshirt freshman QB at the time. New-New still looks very raw, and all PSU freshman QB can’t be Zach Mills.

by Cairo on Sep 28, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Karl Klug

I check cheddar like a food inspector

by SpanishJohnny on Sep 27, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ahh.

Was wondering about that and guessed.

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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor

by Run Up The Score on Sep 27, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feeling of Deja vu

You know, it seems strange, but it is almost like we actually did play Iowa last year—call me crazy.
And that the dreams of last year’s all-star O-line being dominated by Iowa’s D were maybe real.
So is it a surprise that this year’s line would have even more trouble?
Wasn’t there something the coaches could have done to prepare better,
like quicker plays as someone mentioned above?

by confirmy on Sep 28, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As I recall...

But last year, the line struggled early, but started to get better as the game wore on.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 28, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You sure, I thought it was the other way around?

After the first drive, I thought we gained something like over 200 yds on some long drives the rest of the first half and controlled the ball for almost 25 mins against them last year.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 28, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Understandable

I just remember watching the game thinking that we should’ve been killing them but the score was still close.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 29, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

O-line & QB grades should be F's

Giving them a D implies that they are capable of far worse, and I hope that is not true. Also, a D is a passing grade in some courses and they FAILED big time.

by markpsu on Sep 28, 2009 8:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They would've been, but...

…really, they were fine in the first quarter.

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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor

by Run Up The Score on Sep 28, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too harsh on Clark IMO.

The line was getting completely blown away, especially late, and Peyton Manning isn’t doing crap with that kind of time and worry.

Combine that with the low snaps, the fact that he was under center way too often, and the weather…maybe he could have done a better job of minimizing the damage, but throwing the ball away more or ducking up field for 1 yard gains wasn’t going to score the team any more points.

I’m not sure Clark isn’t better than “above average.” He’s still by far the best player at his position in the conference. He showed his talent last year and deserved 1st team Big Ten honors, and even this year, when he had time to pass, he was on pace to break all kinds of records.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Sep 28, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clark has to be smarter with the ball, period.

I know he didn’t have much to work with, but he made absolutely appalling decisions on some of his throws. Just awful. His INT to the flat was terrible, as was the pass that Klug ended up tipping, as was the high burner to Royster (which, yes, could have been caught).

A great player rises above the mess and makes things happen by any means necessary. Clark doesn’t do that. He’s great when the pocket is clean and he can set his feet. So are a lot of other QB’s. And if he’s going to be the leader of this team, he needs to lead it and not sulk on the sidelines.

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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor

by Run Up The Score on Sep 28, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's got weapons at WR and TE.

He was just misfiring all over the place. It really got bad in the second half after he’d been planted into the ground a dozen times.

I give some positive credit to the offensive playcalling for not being as conservative as I thought they would be. It wasn’t all off-tackle runs and QB draws. They were still trying to operate the spread and give Clark the chance to win the game, but the running game wasn’t cooperating and the o-line was extremely erratic.

by Cairo on Sep 28, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what about TEs?

that was the mismatch that psu had all game, and only used it a couple of times in the 3rd quarter.

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Sep 28, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Michigan 07 Exactly..

…that’s the game I most thought of watching this…decently match squads but with 2-to-3 horrible mismatches on the oline with inexperienced players getting pushed around, or sometimes inexplicably firing out and just blocking no one. Really poor coaching and preparation. I also don;t care WHAT Paterno says, constantly playing a horrendous OOCS hurts the team. They get NOTHING out of those games, but it helps TEMPLE improve. Great. Bottom line, while Penn St was jerkin around w/ Akron and Temple Iowa was playing Iowa St and Arizona and it SHOWED. How dare Joe poo poo Iowa playing Iowa St, too? Theyre an actual Big12 team at least, not a middling MAC member.

by JoePaMustStay on Sep 28, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Will you be complaining about our horrendous OOCS as though it’s something we traditionally do when we’re playing Alabma next year?

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 28, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Course Not

’Bama’s a good schedule. As was OR St last year.
But you sandwich that with a 1aa team in Coastal and, ta daaaa Akron again. You got ANOTHER 1aa team 2 weeks from now. Since The Dark Years when you had the Miami’s, Nebraskas and BCs in Joe seems to have said “That’s it, I’m guaranTEEing we start every year 3-o now.” I don’t have a problem with 1 or even 2 cupcakes on a 4 game OOCS, and true Syracuse was still going to bowls when they booked this series it can’t be teams like Temple, Coastal, Akron, Youngstown and E IL every OOC game Every year. Unless I’m wrong NC reached out recently but Joe quashed it b/c they wanted it to be a home and home. Play teams Like NC who really SHOULDN’T pose that much risk, but ensure you of good solid experience. 1 MAYBE 2 cupcakes but def 2 decent non MAC d1 teams. And if you don;t beat them, well you weren;t gonna win the Big 11 ANYway.

by JoePaMustStay on Sep 28, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sigh...

I was at the game in the S Zone (senior student section) – yes fellow alumni, you can get around the new ticket system— booya!

Anyways my thoughts from the game:

  1. most of the students were in early, they were just hanging in below the stadium until kickoff. Although I agree – they should have been there when the team came out for pregame.
  2. If anyone else was there early – how cool did the field look with the white cover on it? Can we do that for every game, rain or shine?
  3. I don’t care how rainy/wet/cold/etc it is in the stadium. Alumni – YOU DO NOT WEAR A YELLOW PONCHO TO A WHITEOUT GAME… ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE PLAYING IOWA!!!!!!!!!!
  4. I still hate the head cheerleader. Shut up and put the microphone down. The lion gets all the different sections to cheer during pregame – we. don’t. need. you.
  5. The O-line sucks.
  6. Whichever coach called the plays on offense after the 1st Q should be water boarded ([crosses fingers] JayPa?)
  7. I do feel bad for the defense. It reminded me of ’05 when the defense spent 90% of their time on the field and just got worn out by the end.
  8. At the same time, during the 4th quarter the senior section started yelling “Guess what!?! They are going LEFT!!!” because Iowa ran the same damn play 100 x in a row and we couldn’t stop it
  9. What time is it? 11am – and Michigan our pass coverage still sucks!…
  10. Too much pumped in music as usual, but much better. Only played the Rain song once (and once during pregame but it was wet and we freaking needed something to do). We need more Blue Band.
  11. By far the best pregame song was “I Gotta Feeling (that tonight’s gonna be a good night)” about 30 minutes before kickoff. Most of the stands went nuts – although in hindsight it couldn’t have been more wrong.
  12. Also – Cheerleaders/Guido/Music Guy/Freshmen… shut up when our team is on offense. Seriously. To the the freshmen: I know you weren’t there at Ohio State in ’05 when we all thanked God/JoePa when the offense was on the field because we finally could stop yelling and give our throats a break – but you need to learn fast that offense time=quiet time.
  13. To everyone waited until Iowa was on the line and out of their huddle before you started yelling: Half the reason we are yelling is to screw up their play calling. They do their play calling in the huddle. I’ll leave it to you to connect the dots.
  14. Hint: If they are calling an audible – you should yell louder.
  15. Dear guy who starts the clock during pregame: Yes we are in the stands early. Yes we are watching the clock when it sits still at 90:23 for 30 minutes. Yes we are waiting for it to start so we can count down to kickoff. Yes, you do suck at your job and we hate your very existence.
  16. TV timeout guy needs to be killed and drug across the field by his stupid yellow outfit. He is the only man I hate more than my dentist

sigh… I’m going to go nurse my pneumonia…

by three20four on Sep 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1,583

For points 3, 4, 12-14

by PSUMark2008 on Sep 28, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No matter how hard Guido tries...

It was apparent Saturday night that we’ll never have another crowd like the ’05 Ohio State game.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 28, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Been saying that for years.

There’s a stubborn refusal to let anything be organic in Happy Valley. Now it’s pre-manufactured whiteout shirts, special theme games, and a frenzied attempt to make every weekend “The Great Show”.

And you know what? Sometimes you’re just playing a regular, crappy home game against Temple.

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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor

by Run Up The Score on Sep 28, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Amen

And I can’t even stand the phrase “the great show.” It sounds so stupid. The actual SI quote was that PSU was “the greatest show in college football” but we can’t use that ‘cause it’s too close to “The Greatest Show on Earth” which is trademarked so Guido wants to call us “the great show” instead. WTF?

But at least we get to wear awesome tie-dye, rock out to Sweet Caroline, and see how many people wore D-Will’s jersey to the game – since, you know, those were all the things that made OSU ’05 so great.

by PSUMark2008 on Sep 28, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny and Anderson

How many more years of subpar to awful O line play must we suffer through before these two dinosaurs are canned? We get a “decent” O line once every 4 years and have yet to have a really good one this decade. These losers have been stealing paychecks from PSU for years now and it’s JoePa’s fault they haven’t been cut loose. If any of us were that bad at our job we’d be unemployed..or in a union.

by brd119 on Sep 28, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm curious

Why do you only post when bad things happen?

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 28, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I usually only lurk

but I’m incredibly fired up about these two frauds this morning. I used to post on here, PennLive and FJP.com, but now I’m down to reading here and posting on FJP.

by brd119 on Sep 28, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's been exactly

Four games since we’ve had an excellent offensive line.

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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor

by Run Up The Score on Sep 28, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, excellent.

4th nationally in sacks allowed, 14th nationally in rushing offense, and the only team in the Big Ten over 5 yards/carry.

I’m not sure what else you want.

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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor

by Run Up The Score on Sep 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RUTS, those are fair points

but look at last years schedule:

Coastal Carolina (FCS school)
Oregon State (72nd in total defense)
Syracuse (96th in total defense)
Temple (73rd in total defense)
Illinois (90th in total defense)
Purdue (108th in total defense)
Wisconsin (78th in total defense)
Michigan (89th in total defense)
Ohio State (16th in total defense)
Iowa (33rd in total defense)
Indiana (40th in total defense)
Michigan State (71st in total defense)
USC (6th in total defense)

In total, against the 3 teams we played that actually had a defense ranked in the top 30ish, we went 1-2 against them, averaged 4.25 yards per carry and lost a QB to a concussion. Sorry, I think they were above average.

by brd119 on Sep 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly how is it the line's fault that Clark had a concussion? He was scrambling

Ohio State – The Buckeyes were blitzing all game, but am I the only one who remembers the line dominating on our last two drives?

Iowa – started out miserable, played OK through most of the first half.

USC – did much, much better than anyone expected against One Of The Greatest Defenses Ever. Shipley utterly pwned Maualauualuga, and Ohrnberger had a good game. I hope you’re not trying to blame this one on the line, because that’s baseless.

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by ReadingRambler on Sep 28, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I blame the Iowa game on moving Ohrnberger and Wiz around

They were trying to protect Wiz (Injured?) from Mitch King. Totally backfired.

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by ReadingRambler on Sep 28, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those stats are interesting

I had no idea IU’s D was so….not horrible.

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by ReadingRambler on Sep 28, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good stats regarding the rushing average

but if you look at little deeper at some of those defenses excluding the PSU game you see that we performed well above average against these defenses…

OSU Rush defense: 106/game, 3.4/att, 6TDs
We gained 160 yards on 4.3 per carry, including a TD.

Iowa Rush defense: 87/game, 3.0/att, 5TDs
We gained 180 yards on 3.9 per carry, including a 2TDs.

USC Rush defense: 83/game, 2.6/att, 7TDs
We gained 137 yards on 4.7 per carry, including a TD.

So yes, you were correct in that only averaged 4.25 per carry but you forgot to mention that the rest of the nation averaged 2.99 against those same three defenses.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 29, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not blaming the USC loss on the line

but if I remember correctly (it’s been 10 months), he was getting knocked down a lot and/or running for his life. The line looked bad against Iowa (not what I expected) and mediocre against OSU (what I expected).

My point in all of this is that Kenny and Anderson are terrible at their jobs and have been for a while. Lots of talk about how good last years line was (and it was the best we’ve had this decade), but let’s talk about the other 7 years of poor to awful lines we’ve had. PSU clearly struggles to generate interior linemen worth a damn. We put one kid in the pros every 4-5 years? That’s terrible at a school like PSU.

by brd119 on Sep 28, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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