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Ok, now let me make myself clear right off the bat: I'm not excusing what this kid did.  It's pretty unbelieveable.

But...

Star running back LeGarrette Blount won’t play for Oregon again this year. The school suspended him on Friday for the remainder of season after he slugged Boise State defensive end Byron Hout.

Blount threw the punch Thursday night following the 16th-ranked Ducks’ 19-8 loss to No. 14 Boise State.

As Boise State began celebrating on their famous blue turf, Hout yelled in Blount’s face and tapped him on the shoulder pad. Before Broncos head coach Chris Petersen could pull Hout away, Blount landed a right to Hout’s jaw, knocking him to his knees.

Isn't that a little excessive?  He was goaded, and if it had happened during the game, it would have been a personal foul flag, maybe and ejection, and then water under the bridge.  Suspending a kid for an entire season, and basically the rest of his collegiate career for that, I think, just isn't a very good idea. 

Again, this kind of thing can't be tolerated, but as long as there are programs playing kids with actual criminal rap sheets, it seems ridiculous to me that we're ending kids' careers for school yard sucker punches. 

Let's put it in Penn State terms.  When we had guys get busted for pot last season, they missed 3 games.  Was what Blount did really that bad in comparison?

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i don't think this stuff is that horrible

you can hurt people on the field much more, in a less obviously brutal way. For example that OrSU kid who chop blocked Hayes last year. Lots of people compare this to the Ron Artest thing, which strikes me as dumb – punching a fan is in a whole different league than punching a linebacker.

But the PC way to handle this, to deal with the overblown ESPNers, is to make an overblown punishment.

I thought he handled it pretty well after the fact. The Boise players, otoh, were saying retarded things about Oregon’s coaches and so on.

Ef them both. That was a horrible game to watch.

by borisborisboris on Sep 4, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ron Artest

They haven’t been showing it as much on ESPN, but Blount did actually go after a group of Boise State fans as the coaches were escorting him off the field. That’s when the cops had to jump in and restrain him. That’s probably where the Ron Artest comparisons are coming from.

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by PSUox50 on Sep 4, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I think that’s where the majority of his punishment is/should be coming from. Had he not been restrained he would have attack a fan/fans

by PSUisMyHeart on Sep 5, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another data point

Back in the day, my alma mater’s starting quarterback punched our offensive coordinator during a game and was allowed to stay on the team after issuing a public apology, even though he never saw the field again. That’s essentially the same penalty Blount received. That was D3 football and I don’t think it even made the campus newspaper, whereas this is going to be sports news all weekend; the difference here is the media. What would happen if he had been suspended a few games, came back, did well and Oregon ran their conference table and ended up in the Rose Bowl? The school would be vilified by the media. I don’t think they can ‘win’ another game with him on the team.

The suspension effectively ends Blount’s football career, I would think, or at least puts it in Austin Scott hopes-and-dreams territory. One thing I was thinking about today — if he really went from second round to undraftable as the experts said, that means his punch cost roughly $10 million to throw. What is the most expensive punch thrown in history? Wikipedia says when Kermit Washington punched Rudy Tomjanovich it ended up costing the Lakers over $3 million in 1977 dollars, which is like $11.2 million today.

by gumbercules on Sep 4, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Small tangent, but
…whereas this is going to be sports news all weekend…

You know, if the game had been somewhat interesting, this may have been swept under a little more.

/just sayin…

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by IcersGuy on Sep 4, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Behavior

No this is not an unfair the decision made against LeGarrette Blount. PSU does not tolerate personal foul calls. Have you ever seen Joe Paterno’s reaction to a player if a personal foul is called? He pops a lid.

This is football and smack is talked all the time on and off the field. LeGarrette Blount was talking smack way before the game. You must be able to handle the taunting. Lord knows our PSU players handled their fair share of taunting. It takes class and pride not to rise to the bait.

The whole story…it was said on the ESPN that LeGarrette Blount was in trouble before in Feburary for breaking team rules. LeGarrette Blount can go to another college to play this year…if he wants to take the chance.

If this was a PSU player – it would have been worse. We put a lot of pressure on the young men, but at the end of their career with Penn State they are great additions to society. Not thugs.

by sclions17 on Sep 4, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK

Let’s not make our guys look like choir boys.

The truth is we’ve done our fair share of regrettable things, including a DUI as late as last Sunday morning. In my mind, those kinds of things are much worse than what Blount did last night. Zordich was playing games with life and death (both his own, and potentially others) the other night. He’ll see the field again, probably even this year.

Blount punched someone in the face, and he’s done

I’m sorry, I just don’t think you can compare the two and say what Blount did is worse.

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by fugimaster24 on Sep 4, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, the players of ours that've gotten in trouble in the past are not angels

However, some of them were kicked off of the team, after first being put in the dog house, suspended, and then blowing their chance again.

However, with the exception of maybe Stabby McShankerson, none of those players went as far as Blount did. Yes, he was provoked, but he’s not in middle school any more. A student athlete is supposed to be respectful and let a taunt go, like Clark did when the Akron guy popped his helmet off. Blount pops a guy in the face without warning, then goes on to strut around like a tough guy, only to almost pick a fight with FANS in the stands. The only thing keeping Blount from going ape sh*t on that fan was the coaches and police holding him back. And if you watch the video, he was literally on the verge of needing to be restrained, all of which was on live television.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 7, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember Lawrence Phillips?

He was the stud Nebraska tailback from the mid-90s who got arrested for assaulting his girlfriend during the ’94 season and was punished with…A six-game suspension.

So, forgive me if I feel that this punishment on Blount is rather excessive.

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by Happy Hour Valley on Sep 4, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but that's a bit of an unrealistic comparison, no?

I mean, Tom Osborne had basically sold his soul for a title at that point.

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by ReadingRambler on Sep 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A bit excessive perhaps

When it all unfolded last night, I had no problem calling for a full season suspension. Looking at it more today, a substantial penalty was necessary, but the full season seems a bit much. Oh and let’s not hide this behind the “they’ve killed his career”, because there are other professions where just one transgression on your record can get you blacklisted. Fair or not, that’s how it goes.

Anyone think had he not blown up again at the fans, having to be restrained like a madman, the penalty would have been less severe? Yes, the sucker punch was stupid and a suspension is warranted for that. But if had just walked off the field, looking like he knew he made a mistake, I think they would have given him less. Letting his emotions get the better of him yet again, at the fans no less (right or wrong, the athlete will rarely ever win that battle), helped write the punishment.

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by IcersGuy on Sep 4, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Can Agree With That...

…but the full season is still excessive.

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by fugimaster24 on Sep 4, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll agree - the full season really is too much

I would have put it in the 4-6 game range

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by IcersGuy on Sep 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This Man is Insane

If he was a junior, I would have banned him for 2 years. He made a mockery of a game.

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by raimman on Sep 4, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fine

But then you have to ban everyone that screws up big too. Let’s not pick on this kid because what he did ended up on camera.

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by fugimaster24 on Sep 4, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve heard it debated all day on sports radio, but here’s the bottom line: timing, circumstance, and context are all as important as the actual incident. We are picking on this kid because it ended up on camera, and if that doesn’t seem fair it’s because it isn’t fair. But real life isn’t fair, and if this kid had reacted the way he did off the field in real life, he would have been tasered/maced, arrested, and facing serious charges. No exageration, b/c I’ve seen kids do a whole lot less and end up maced and in the back of the paddy wagon, charged with assault.

In the grand scheme this kid is getting a break b/c he was on a football field and not a city street.

It’s like Zordich’s DUI, if he had made it home no one even knows about it — but he still did it. If this kid reacts like that and there’s no camera, he’s likely off the hook — but he still did it.

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by millzners on Sep 4, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Guess I Don't Feel Bad For Him...

…as much as I feel like justice hasn’t been servered for others. He deserves what he got, but it bothers me how others get off so easy for far greater offenses.

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by fugimaster24 on Sep 4, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't this kid already have a track record behavioral problems?

I keep hearing that he was hammered in February for the dreaded ‘violation of team rules’ and I thought there was even something else. I seem to think he used up all of his strikes when he had to be dragged off the field by one of his coaches, some security guys, Phil Knight, and the team chaplain. Sorry… I seem to think his act and his previous ones led to all of this

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by TheMightyErik on Sep 5, 2009 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He should have just failed a drug test while on probation while failing to do community service….his punishment would have been far less severe

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by FireJayPa on Sep 5, 2009 2:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, to be fair, he started the shit talking before hand.

Saying “We owe them an @ss beating” so, if you are gonna dish it out, take it like a man, don’t punch people coward.

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by Roland86 on Sep 5, 2009 5:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree that the punishment is excessive

The guy was being taunted by a moron who took his helmet off, thus allowing the direct and impressive fist pump to the face. I think both players should have a 2 game suspension. Taunting and being physical are parts of the game, it was just an error of judgment on both players caught up in their emotions.

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by psu on Sep 5, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What sucks is...

Isn’t Blount a senior? So one punch basically screwed his career…?

Hout should be suspended at least 2 games for completely lacking class and being a d-bag.

by psume06 on Sep 5, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly

I would have punched that guy in the face too. Just saying.

by smashtheguitar on Sep 5, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

compare
Let’s put it in Penn State terms. When we had guys get busted for pot last season, they missed 3 games. Was what Blount did really that bad in comparison?

Assaulting a person versus a victimless crime that involved only traces of a drug? Yeah, I’d say what Blunt did is far, far worse.

I actualyl tend to agree that this punishment is excessive. But I think you’re example is misplaced. Koroma and Evans missing 3 games (actually, 2.5) was pretty fair in my mind. A DUI — of which we’ve had way too many, and are actually potentially devistating — would be a much better comparison.

by Laaaaazzz on Sep 5, 2009 11:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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