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Grading The Penn State Offense Against Akron

Penn State wide receiver Graham Zug, right,catches a pass over Akron defender Tyler Campbell for a touchdown. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

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Penn State wide receiver Graham Zug, right,catches a pass over Akron defender Tyler Campbell for a touchdown. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

Quarterback - Clark had one of his best days ever statistically and looked very comfortable throwing to a brand new set of wide receivers: 29/40, 353 yards, 3/1 ratio with an 8.8 average. All large improvement over his 2008 average, but of course they are, it's Akron. But that's the point: in week one, with a half-new offense, he did what we hoped.

And for the most part he looked good doing it. I'm still impressed with Clark's fearless throws into oncoming moving trucks; I don't remember a pass off his back foot all afternoon. There where occasional flashbacks to inexperience — rocket passes too high for the receivers, focusing on the number one option, forcing a pass into too much coverage — but he also put up beauties for Moye, Powell and Zug all day and (mostly) hit the safety valves out of the backfield.

He still looks like the best quarterback in the Big Ten, a far more poised player than anyone in the league I watched on Saturday, and he's doing it with his arm. Only three rushes for 5 yards (including one sack), and that interception was more bad luck than back accuracy. 

Final Grade: A-

Running Backs - The biggest concern out of the Akron game has to be the rushing attack. The formula last year was to let Royster run patiently behind a strong line, and then open things up from there. Penn State was never able to establish a strong ground game on Saturday and the passing game was successful despite this.

Star-divide

Now it's only one game, and we don't know how strong Akron's run-stop will be this year, but:

YPC 2008
2009
Evan Royster 6.5 4.4
Stephfon Green 5.5 1.4

 

A lot of the criticism will be saved for the offensive line, but there are adjustments that aren't being made by Royster and Green.

No one was better suited to run behind the 2008 line than Royster, his patience combined with their ability to get a good push and continue to drive became mostly deadly.  But that's not happening this year, at least not early on, and Royster needs to know when to put his nose down and fight out a yard or two. He's no power back, but that kind of loss-cutting approach is going to be important this year.

Green, on the other hand, continues to have the opposite problem. He's fast as lightning but is a waste of a carry if there isn't a hole open as soon as he touches the ball. Too many times the line was either still fighting it out or in a stalemate and Green simply ran full steam into the mess.

Final Grade:C

Offensive Line - Something kind of funny happened: pass protection was outstanding yet very few holes were opening up for the backs. This is the opposite of what you would expect during week 1, especially with a proven running game from a year ago and the opponent coming in ranked 101st in rushing defense a year ago. This has surpassed the secondary as my number one concern.

The pass protection was outstanding. Clark had all day to throw and took very few hits even when he was able to stay long enough to find a (often mid-to-deep) receiver.

But the rush was discouraging. The averages above tell part of the story, but often the problem is from the get-go: there simply aren't holes opening after the hand-off. The issue wasn't just up the middle; sweeps and gut shots alike were stuffed by the Zips. The line is only going to get better, that's the nature of replacing three solid starters from a year ago, but keep an eye on this.

Final Grade: B-


Wide Receiver / Tight End - So how many times did we hear about OMG NO WRS DOOM!!1! this off-season? A lot. But now? Not so much.

Derek Moye was an absolute stud with six catches and a 23 yard average. He's a deep threat with height, something we haven't had in a while, and great hands to boot. The TD catch was the balls. Chaz and Zug had sixty-something yards each and looked good as well, bringing in great catches and fighting for yards. I never got the feeling that either one was going to Reggie Bush the secondary or anything, but we didn't see much of that last year either and the offense rolled just fine.

The expanded role of tight end didn't exactly bloom, however. Andrew Quarless (who left injured) and Mickey Shuler combined for just two catches and many of the plays their way seemed forced. This was probably a result of wanting to work on those plays when the gameplan didn't really warrant the calls. This is fine, although Clark needs to realize that if the TE play isn't there Plan B needs to kick in.

Devon Smith quickly: how fun is this guy? You can tell his size will continue to limit him when plays become overcrowded, but he's five yards down field before anyone realizes where the ball is. I'm looking forward to seeing him more.

Final Grade: A

Going forward...There is a lot of good that came out of the Akron game, notably the wide receiver play and pass protection.  Clark didn't skip a beat and Kevin Newsome, very briefly, looked rough but athletic.  However, the rushing game is a major concern, and something needs to be done about creating holes or the passing game will suffer mightily against Big Ten defenses not wearing Orange.

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Agree with the assessment...

Got the feeling everyone on offense was just going through the motions in the 2nd half. No push from the line on most run plays.

by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 8, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would give the WR

an A- or a high B+

they played great and got open…but the turn overs are killers…the tip to an interception is on thing (though that ball should have been caught) but Brackett’s fumble is inexcusable…as a result that led to Akron’s only score…still a strong performance

by Lion Alum on Sep 8, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have no hard feeling about that INT

The throw was right to the numbers but even after being boxed out that DB made a perfectly timed slap at the ball.

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by Kevin HD on Sep 8, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Though you can say

Clark should have been picked off at least 2 more times. I thought Clark played well but it seemed he was forcing things a little too much.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 8, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most certainly

and you could almost feel them coming.

And here is something I forgot to address: I strongly disagree with the way the BTN announcers hounded on the offense after (I can’t remember which) TD, calling it “sloppy” when Clark rolled out after the pocket broke down and hit a receiver on a line in the end zone.

What was sloppy about that? Things didn’t go a planned, but the receivers go open, the QB kept his head, and more than anything I was impressed Clark was still looking downfield in what would be an obvious chance to run.

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by Kevin HD on Sep 8, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTN

I thought they were referring to Akron’s defense as “sloppy” because they gave up contain, allowing Clark to get outside and find the open man even though he could have run for it.

I thought the announcers were nevertheless hard on the offense, suggesting that play was somehow a gimme because the defense was sloppy. It’s still a good play hitting a receiver in stride while rolling out.

by Nittany Lawyer on Sep 8, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was able to watch

the game on BTN Sunday night and totally got a different feel of what I witnessed at the game to how the announcers covered the first half. Everything seemed very downplayed and unexciting…while watching the speed of the team on both sides of the ball in person was electrifying. They did refer to the touchdown as “sloppy” by the Penn State offense (which bothers me, because if TP does this, its brilliance and athleticism)

There was nothing, nothing nothing sloppy about that touchdown…I would argue it was good to see DC17 keep his composure inside the redzone, wait for a receiver to get open, and execute a perfect pass.

"That's why you don't play! 'Cuz you're no good!" -Joe Paterno

by pmm156 on Sep 8, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

I remember Glenn Mason praising the effort of Coastal Carolina last season and talking about how shaky PSU looked. It seems that his MO is to try and make it sound like an interesting game. Funny how he praised the Akron defense in the 1st half when they had given up about 300 yards of total offense.

by catesinator on Sep 8, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glen Mason

Give him credit though. They were talking about LaVar Arrington and the play-by-play guy tried to get Mason to talk about the 1999 game. Mason didn’t take the bait and said he wasn’t going to talk about that. I thought that was classy on his part.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought they were criticizing that he passed the ball

instead of running up that wide open field (which invariably would have closed before he got to the endzone anyway).

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 10, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not freaking out about the running game yet.

Akron made a choice to stop the run at all costs, so Clark ends up throwing 40 times. Heard that Eric Shrive may not be redshirted after all, and I wouldn’t be totally surprised if he showed up at a place like LG at some point this season.

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by Run Up The Score on Sep 8, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on the first point.

I thought Akron’s D was gameplanned perfectly. Your opposition has a great ground game, but untested wide receivers and a suspect offensive line. Put as many guys in the middle, clog up the run, and force the QB to throw under pressure to those untested WRs. How satisfying was it to see the O-line could still effectively pass block with all of that pressure?

by Cairo on Sep 8, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree on the Akron stopping the run point

which would have been my strategy as well. I am guessing at Paterno’s presser today, someone will ask a question about the running game and Joepa will rip them.

by cpm126 on Sep 8, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some things I noticed as well

Joe Suhey seems to be a very nice weapon in the passing game. That play action naked bootleg toss was money for 12 yards every time they ran it.

I thought Clark forced a few throws he shouldn’t have. That first drive was so easy I think he started feeling like Brett Farve and tried to thread some needles into double and triple coverage. He has to just stay consistent and hit the open man and not get locked in on the home run threats. Take the ten yard pass and keep the ball moving. I’m confident he’ll fix that once he sees it on film.

The running game was disheartening, but I thought Akron was sold out on stopping the run by putting eight or nine guys in the box. Penn State made them pay for it as they should have. They’ll work on it this week and I’m sure the running game will be ok. I was very pleased with how well the pass protection held up.

Worst case scenario is the running game never comes together and Daryll Clark has to throw 40 attempts in every game. If that’s the case, and the WRs and Oline play like they did Saturday, it’s going to be a blast to watch this offense this year.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Clark puts up Heisman numbers...

winning it after McCoy gets hurt in a hot dog eating contest and Tebow mysteriously descends to the pearly gates without dying.

I was out in the trenches, which enables me to paint such a powerful picture, like Apocalypse Now.-Cormega

by OMEGAMAN on Sep 8, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ascends, not descends

Tebow (what a man!) could never go down.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 8, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, the talking heads at twwl

Have Clark ranked like 6th in their weekly heisman poll! Right ahead of Jimmy Clausen!

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by Roland86 on Sep 8, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one should ever be head of Clausen in any ESPN poll.

Order your copy of "We Are Penn State" The offseason is long. So is this magazine.

by Kevin HD on Sep 8, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know. Get this one too:

Pryor isn’t even on the list! WHAT? I CALL BIAS

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by Roland86 on Sep 8, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that poll is a travesty without him... total garbage

I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member

by TheMightyErik on Sep 9, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

Please tell me they’re not already stroking the Emu after three years of EPIC SUCK

At least Pryor didn’t make that list.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 8, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Emu's stats were pretty tight

Notre Dame: Passing: Jimmy Clausen, 15-18, 315 yds, 4 TD

says your resident BSD 2009 ND apologist….

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Sep 8, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kill wealthy dowager...

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Sep 8, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've never wanted to be wrong more

Either let me fly, or give me death
Let my soul rest, take my breath
If I don’t fly I’ma die anyway, I’ma live on
but I’ll be gone any day

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Sep 8, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, they were tight

I’d probably put up 100 yards against Nevada, too.

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Sep 8, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And they played....

Say it with me….NEVADA!

Jtot, please don’t tell me you’ve contracted Domer Denial Syndrome. Please.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 8, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fraid so, mein freund

We’ll see how Colin Kaepernick rebounds in the WAC this year, but he’s a serious pro prospect. And the wolfpack coach, one of only four active members of the CFB hall of fame, had only ever been shutout twice before in his 25 year career.

But scUM’s defense apparently looked good last week, too, so I guess we’ll see what happens up in the whore’s nest.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Sep 8, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude... seriously starting to worry about you

I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member

by TheMightyErik on Sep 9, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

Does anyone here know jtot outside of internet anonymity? Someone needs to check on him, I think he may be being held hostage by some ND nut, and is being forced to comment on here in a pro-ND tone.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 9, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jtot? you ok...?

meanwhile… at some decrepit basement in northern Indiana…

I would photoshop the man’s head on there but I have never had any luck importing my own pics :(

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by TheMightyErik on Sep 10, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be fun, but...

I don’t know how that bodes for PSU at MSU to end the season. Lansing is no fun in November (or any other month for that matter).

by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 8, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the Michigan State game last year

It was so cold that my beer froze… I had just finished saying something like, “I’d love to see one of those big 12 offenses come up here and try to throw the ball around all day, it’d be impossible in this weather,” when our offense and especially our passing game exploded.

by Larry Skywalker on Sep 8, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing.

Clark could very well have the best QB season ever for PSU. If his chemistry with the wideouts is as good as it seems, I think he could end up near 3,000 yards and 25 or so TDs.

We have never had a 3000 yard season, I think that’d be neat. He just has so many different weapons, Moye, Zug, Powell, a full back and half back, two good tight ends, Day-von Smith.

I’ll always love “the three” but now we have “the baker’s dozen”

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Sep 8, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny you should say "Day-von Smith"

Saturday was the first time I had heard that. I was calling him Devon, like the beginning of “Devlin” all this time.

It would be cool, but I hate to dilute the Kool Aid by reminding you we’ve only had one game against Akron so far (granted Clark might already have a 1500+ yards after the joke of a non-con schedule we have).

But it’s really odd to hear “3000 passing yards” for a PSU QB, those are almost Nintendo 12 #s (off by about 2000 yards)

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 8, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

If he averages 300 yards against our 4 cupcakes, thats 1200 right there. That means he only has to average 225 yards in big ten play to get to 3000. That isn’t figuring in the bowl game, where he would likely get another 200 yards or so(that would mean he’d only have to average 250 in the non con).

I just pulled those numbers out of nowhere, but they look reasonable to me.

It is entirely doable. I’d say it is even moderately likely. 3000 passing yards isn’t as crazy as a 2000 yard rushing season, its no coincidence that we have produced a slew of great RBs; we traditionally don’t throw a whole lot, especially vertically.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Sep 8, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either way

I say he has the best QB season in our history, which 2750 would also accomplish (yardage wise).

I whole heartedly believe the DC 17 we saw against MSU is the true full-out DC 17. I think early on last year he was still a new starter, then he had concussion issues and by the time he was fully ready and established, he had his best two game stretch(stats wise anyways) of the season, i fully expect it to continue

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Sep 8, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bob... I go with 2751

take that RR!

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by TheMightyErik on Sep 9, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has there ever been a Price is Right fight over the $1 over bid?

Because, seriously, that is quite possibly to most doucheabag move in all of game shows.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 9, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there should be...

I wanna punch those asses in the neck when I see that move

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by TheMightyErik on Sep 10, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is always satisfying

watching the idiots who don’t quite grasp the concept, but still try to be dicks, and bid $1 LESS than a bid.

Those people are destined to go far in life.

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 10, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My personal favorite

I’ve seen where the third person picks $1… then they get beaten with a $2 bid.

You were almost a genius.

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Sep 10, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Won't happen

Newsome will get extensive PT in the other 3 non-con games and IU. Running game will also be more effective so Clark won’t get 40 passes a game.

by catesinator on Sep 8, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

13 Games( i find it hard to believe we will miss a bowl)

DC averaged 200 ypg passing last year

For this year(after the Akron game), he would only need to average 221 ypg the rest of the way to reach 3000.

21 more ypg is no means a crazy amount. 3000 yards is not that big of a deal, we just aren’t used to it.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Sep 8, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny you should say “Day-von Smith”
Saturday was the first time I had heard that. I was calling him Devon, like the beginning of "Devlin" all this time.

Ha, same here.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 8, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny thing about the INT.

The Clark interception was a carbon copy of the 1999 Minnesota interception minus the season-crushing implications and the devastation of my soul.

by Cairo on Sep 8, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

That game was on the BTN last night

right after the Penn State Football story. You’re happily watching Guy Junker recap a nice day in Happy Valley, and BAM — you get hit with that 2×4

by PSU Mudder on Sep 8, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

interesting

i felt the same way after the (pooch) punt on the 35.

by PSUgirl on Sep 8, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you had to pick

one play to scratch from the play book would it be:

1. pooch punt from the 40-35
2. WR throwing the ball to another WR in the endzone on a trick play
3. the 5 yard out-route (on 3rd and 7)

I’m pretty sure I’ll go with 2, but that’s just b/c it really rubs me the wrong way.

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by millzners on Sep 8, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I hate

I hate it when a team lines up in the shotgun on 1st and goal at the five yard line. C’mon.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

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by Run Up The Score on Sep 8, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because

It’s not football.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooo! Ooo!

Can we also get rid of the offenses that lineup, then look to the sidelines to get the actual play call? That’s the latest “fad” that bothers the crap outta me.

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Sep 8, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Know what else I hate?

The pistol formation. That’s where the QB is in shotgun and the RB lines up two yards behind him. Watching Florida State last night they used this formation almost exclusively. In 10 years they won’t even teach quarterbacks how to line up under center anymore.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3-step drop?

but coach, that’ll put me like 15 yards behind the line of scrimage!

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Sep 8, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will say it was working for them though

Don’t have an opinion for or against it, but for Ponder and FSU it was working. But you have to have that athletic QB

by WPIALkid22 on Sep 8, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pffff. You're so SD.

Any legal combination of 11 guys is football! It’s just not Neanderthal, standard definition football. I actually like the shotgun near the goal line, it opens up a bunch of possibilities (draw, veer option, that QB sweep we ran so much last year, etc.)

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by Run Up The Score on Sep 8, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blog War!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Sep 8, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh

Could set up for a nice draw play or something like that.

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by psuphiman80 on Sep 8, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's what I hated most about that play

put in Fera to test his leg. You’re already telling Wagner “we’re not confident you can make this”, so might as well give someone with the leg an opportunity to hit it.

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 10, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet Lou

I thought Eliades looked good (read: quick and athletic) when he was pulling and leading the hole on the left side. He wasn’t terrific finishing those blocks, but he got to his man and I think he will improve on sealing off those guys in the future. It hurt that he couldn’t play in the second half because of his ankle, I would have liked to see the unit get a full 60 together. Might say something about Stank that they only ran that play to the left with Eliades in, Stank nor Wiz ran that play to the right side. Also, once Barham came in I didn’t see it.

On Pannell, only pass rush came wide off his side. We need healthy tight ends to help him shut down the pass rush on his side I thought. If I think he’ll get it, but I think he is a half season away. I’ll give him this, he won’t see many ends as talented as Sewell, even in conference, that dude is pretty legit. He was doubled by Jones and Pannell in the 1st and still made some plays in the run game.

Match up that will dictate the run game this Saturday, Wiz v. Art Jones. Probably get help from Eliades if his ankle is better, but as the containment of Jones goes, so will go the run game.

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweet Lou

I just noticed on two of those screens he ran right by a defender that made the tackle and found himself 15 yards down field having not layed a hand on anyone.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re-watching

the game right now, and agree with you. During the game I saw him streaking down the field and thought he would get better at laying these guys out. Now that I go back I’m starting to worry he gets down the field and isn’t even sure of his assignment.

1 other concern, did Clark and Wiz have trouble with the snap count? It seemed like DC17 spent a lot of time stomping on the ground/clapping his hands/barking out of the shotgun

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stomping the foot

I think they do that a few times to throw off the defense. Kind of like mixing up the snap count.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Landolt thoughts

Did we underrate what it meant losing this guy in the Rose Bowl? Granted, he played against the less talented end, but I have nothing bad to say about him from week 1. Is this a guy who I can forget about all season if healthy? Plug him in and let him go to work.

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Troutman

Mike, related to your Troutman comment in the Depth Chart fanpost, it looks like Johnnie didn’t get in the game at all on Saturday (at least, according to the participation list on gopsusports.com).

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by Run Up The Score on Sep 8, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

It’s rare to see a player make a public statement that depressing. This after Paterno publicly called him out during camp for having a bad summer. Now he gets beat out by a redshirt freshman and doesn’t play at all in the second half of a blowout.

I fear the writing is on the wall for Mr. Troutman. Looks like we may have another scholarship available next year.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is potentially why...

…a certain mammoth freshman OT needs to be ready for a temporary switch to LG.

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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor

by Run Up The Score on Sep 8, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of which

I think I saw him waiting for the bus outside of the Library when I walked to the lab I’m working in this semester from West Halls. He is huge.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 8, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another interesting comment

From our own SOA’s Facebook page:

I’m really gunna b stuck in this place 4 a few more years.

I have no idea what that means.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be anything, really.

Maybe he’s bored.

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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor

by Run Up The Score on Sep 8, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So he's not unamused?

He’s just…bored? This changes everything.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 8, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could be an academic thing too, it’s always disappointing when you realize how many credits you need to graduate, especially so when you change your major… I know it freaked me out.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Sep 8, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah probably

Could just be some freshman year homesickness. Coming from New York City I imagine State College seems pretty country.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't

Adam Shell swing by and cheer him up? He’s too famous here to be this ….whatever he is.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Sep 8, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking along these lines

except, I think he’s just tired of having white guys try to make him smile all the time.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 8, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call me an optimist

I’d prefer to think that he’s growing attached to the University, and plans to keep it that way for a while.

Until I hear otherwise, that’s my story.

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Sep 8, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it meant his position on the depth chart.

Seriously. Maybe he’s just reacting to the level of competition at the position. I dunno.

by Cairo on Sep 8, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, is that true?

I thought for sure I had seen him. He’s 74, right?

Anyway, would be interesting to see if Shrive is a serious contender over there. Doesn’t this also make the move of James Terry to DT even more interesting?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Sep 8, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Devon Smith

It was almost comical seeing Smith lined up with the team on the field. Everytime I saw him out there, all I could think was some junior high kid wore a PSU uniform to the game and somehow snuck onto the field without anyone noticing. But dadgum can that boy run fast!!

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Sep 8, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He makes Jordan Norwood look like Harold Carmichael.

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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor

by Run Up The Score on Sep 8, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was awesome

I’m really gonna love watching this kid play. I said in the open thread he looked like a penny racer. So tiny, but so zugging fast.

Don’t worry, by week three that 4.2 will drop to a 5.1 because he is in the big ten now.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Sep 8, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As JoePa always says

you’ll never know how good a team is until they face adversity.

by Mr. Rosewater on Sep 8, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Ten has two teams in the top 25, Mountain West 3 :-(

NCAAF Rankings
Rankings: Week 2

Bowl Subdivision Polls
AP Top 25

    * 1.Florida (56)
    * 2.Texas (2)
    * 3.USC
    * 4.Alabama (2)
    * 5.Oklahoma St.
    * 6.Mississippi
    * 7.Penn St.
    * 8.Ohio St.
    * 9.BYU
    * 10.California
    * 11.LSU
    * 12.Boise St.
    * 13.Oklahoma
    * 14.Virginia Tech
    * 15.Georgia Tech
    * 16.TCU
    * 17.Utah
    * 18.Notre Dame
    * 19.North Carolina
    * 20.Miami (FL)
    * 21.Georgia
    * 22.Nebraska
    * 23.Cincinnati
    * 24.Kansas
    * 25.Missouri

by Mr. Rosewater on Sep 8, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WHO CARES

Zug them.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Sep 8, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And don't forget

The annual choke against a crappy opponent for Texas and USC.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crossing fingers for a Texas choke up in WYOMING this weekend.

This is the single strangest week of road games in memory.

Texas at Wyoming
Colorado at Toledo
Kansas State at Louisiana-Lafayette
Kansas at UTEP
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
South Florida at Western Kentucky

by Cairo on Sep 8, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is Pitt at Buffalo strange?

Aren’t they in the same conference?

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Sep 8, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pittsburgh at Buffalo

How sad and pathetic is your program when a school we’d usually use as a one-and-done patsy makes you have a home-and-away with them.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 8, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oregon

Surprised Oregon fell out of top 25. Drop from #16 to unranked for losing to the #14 team on the road in the first game of the season? Really? I know that game was ugly but wow.

by jigalion on Sep 8, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lost their star running back too

Add to that that it looked like the coach (who was supposed to be an offensive genius) has at best a tenuous grip on his team, and it spells disaster for the Ducks’ season.

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Sep 8, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

they really couldn’t have looked worse losing, and when your RB removes himself from the team like that, the backlash is going to be a little more harsh.

Order your copy of "We Are Penn State" The offseason is long. So is this magazine.

by Kevin HD on Sep 8, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oregon

They were terrible. They are the Illinois of the PAC-10 right now. Tons of talent, but no heart.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rep time for Newsome/McGloin

Was anyone else wondering why we didn’t see Newsome until there was almost 4 min. left in the game? This didn’t make sense to me how the game was clearly in hand in the fourth quarter and we didn’t give Newsome or McGloin considerable playing time.

by Lion Eyes on Sep 8, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JoePa's Answers to that question
Were you hoping to get [Kevin] Newsome in a little sooner or was that about what you were planning?

I don’t plan those kinds of things because you never know what’s going to happen. I had absolutely no plans to get him in, but if the opportunity presented itself, I was going to get him in. I could second guess myself; I might say “hey, maybe we should’ve gotten him in a series earlier.” He got his nose wet and that’s what you hope you can get done anyway.

And:

Was there a reason Newsome didn’t get in earlier?

We weren’t playing well. We were flopping around all over the place, so I didn’t want to put him in there where he couldn’t have success. I wasn’t going to stick him in there when the offensive line wasn’t blocking very well. We weren’t doing some things well enough that I would want him to get in there and have a setback. You like the kid to go in and have success if you can. I think he had enough success to feel pretty good about himself.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Sep 8, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Understandable, but...

wouldn’t it be wise to put these guys in some poor situations? Say Clark does go down, does that mean the opposing defense is going to play any softer? My point is, there is only so much playing time available and these guys should take it when they have it.

Also, Joe’s response to the question about some offensive lineman he recruited in the 80s was priceless. Around 10:11 in the press conference.

by Lion Eyes on Sep 8, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your point

Is understood. And appreciated. And reasonable.

And probably not taken under advisement by Joe. Whose point is final.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Sep 8, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably not

You don’t want to smash the confidence of a true Freshman. A guy with some experience could handle it, but it’s better to take Newsome along slowly at first.

by gcdyersb on Sep 8, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it was more important to get the starting offense on track in the 2nd half. They had trouble sustaining drives in the 3Q and 4Q.

by catesinator on Sep 8, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

POLE~!

If you folks would kindly report to this thread and vote in the piped-in music poll, Zug would appreciate it.

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"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world. Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me." -- Terrelle Pryor

by Run Up The Score on Sep 8, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

'The Hell, RUTS?

So is it okay for everybody to start pimping their own Fan Posts wherever they feel like it?

"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno

by leeharvey418 on Sep 8, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Suhey, Moye, Chaz, Oline and sweet play call

-I liked Suhey getting a lot of touches. Smart, talented player who knows how to lower his shoulder and get the tough yards on third down
-Moye played a spectacular game. Everyone knows about his stats, but he had great route running, good body control and of course great speed. Also good run blocking
- We talked last year about getting screens to Green, and they threw several his way. Hopefully he learns to read blocks, because his speed in the open field would be nasty
- Good to see Chaz taking over DWill’s role. He got blazing speed and is hugh for a wide receiver. I like how the coaches were lining him up in the backfield and threw numerous bubble screens his way. Just like Green, you got to get Chaz in the open field.
- Hopefully Clark was just getting his feet wet in the first half. I don’t think he looked good early on, not going through progressions and throwing into multiple coverage. Good to see he settled down though
- Offensive line worries me, especially on running plays. Royster is a smart runner who knows how to find holes, but there weren’t many to run through Saturday
- I liked the pass play out of the Patriots playbook. The play fake to Royster, fake reverse to Devon Smith, and deep pass to Moye. If it wasn’t slightly underthrown, it would’ve been a 44 yard TD

by WPIALkid22 on Sep 8, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw the Zugger

throw a Hines Ward block on one of the few plays I saw on Saturday.

I think our WR’s will block downfield.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Sep 8, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good ratings

I thought Clark was great at times and not so good at other times…I would sum it up as inconsistent and I think he should have been better based on the defense that was presented to him.
The running backs were the ones who were targeted. Especially Greene and Royster. We could have adjusted and used them more in the passing game. I think the running game will come around.
If we can improve a bit on Offense we are forcing defenses to make a decision. Stop the run or stop the pass. They can
t stop both. If our D continues to play well we are in for a fun fun season.

Peter

by psuboy on Sep 9, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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