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Penn State football history question.




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I know that technically every assistant coach at Penn State has no special title.  Bradley and McQueary are just titled "assistant coach." Having said that, when JoePa was an assistant coach from 1950 to 1965, did he have an area of focus similar to Bradley as defensive coordinator or McQueary as WR coach, or was it just a time period where Rip called all of the shots and the assistants were yes men and coached linebackers one minute and fullbacks the next?

Compounding my confusion, I know from 1954 to 1964 the NCAA enforced "single-platoon" football where players had to play on both sides of the field.  I imagine an offensive lineman would also be a defensive lineman in that situation.  Would you have an OL/DL coach, RB/LB coach, and a WR/DB coach or would you just have an offensive coach and a defensive coach?

 

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Good question

Accoding to this article, he was the backfield coach.

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by jesse. on Jan 11, 2010 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

In spite of these players, Engle was worried about the game with Navy. To Engle no sky is completely blue, no rose without its thorn. What bothered him was that he didn’t have a quarterback, someone to replace last year’s star, Galen Hall. Technically he had three quarterbacks, but none with enough experience. “It’s like going into the World Series with a rookie pitcher,” said Joe Paterno, the backfield coach. Engle agreed. “We won’t know anything until we see how our quarterbacks act,” he said. Saturday they acted. Pete Liske, Don Caum and Ron Coates completed 16 of 24 throws for 234 yards. Passing, as much as running, was responsible for the lopsided score.

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

by Cairo on Jan 12, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

That article is beyond awesome.

394–129–3

by mushdamma on Jan 12, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait, Penn State used to pass the ball?

Someone tell the Big 12!!

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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 12, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

There was a time when

the largest man ever was 6-5, 255.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Jan 12, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Big Red

Doesn’t he also have the title of “Recruiting Coordinator”?

by The Mess on Jan 11, 2010 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

I think he and Jay are the top dogs, officially.

But LJSR is the tits when it comes to recruiting, so I’m willing to bet his word is gold. Although McQuery is the name being attached to the Coxson rumors, so he has to have some pull.

"Have I ever told the story of when I met Miley Cyrus?"

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 11, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry, this is all I got of your post
blah blah blah blah blah tits blah blah blah blah blah

We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.

by psuwxman on Jan 12, 2010 7:15 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry?

"Have I ever told the story of when I met Miley Cyrus?"

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 12, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you had him

at tits.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Jan 12, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought recruiting at PSU was broken down by regions?

I thought it was something along the lines of Scrap takes at least W. PA (possibly the whole state and midwest), LJ gets and dominates the Eastern seaboard states (Larryland, VA, NC, SC, etc.), and I have no idea who gets everywhere else. Maybe it’s by specialty position, with Jay and Big red specifically targeting the QB and WR prospects respectively.

I really don’t know I just thought I had heard it was broken down by regions.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jan 16, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

An Answer for You

Sam Sobczak, number 45, played with my Dad and Galen Hall in the late 50’s early 60’s, is a family friend, and I sent him your blog post. This is his reply….

“We did play both offense and defense. Each assistant coach coaches certain positions on offense and defense. For example: Frank Patrick was one of the backfield coaches and he coached us on offense and defense. Joe Paterno was a backfield coach and he coached us on offense and defense. He also worked with the quaterbacks, J T White worked with the ends on offense and defense and so forth. Rip oversaw the entire practice and did not deal with any specific position.” – Sam

by MsYvone on Jan 16, 2010 8:36 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Awesome

Love your family connection. Thanks for sharing that info here.

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Jan 16, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

from Charlie Ruslavage 1956-58

I also sent the blog to Charlie, and this is what he replied. JtotheP, just sharin’ the love!

Back in our playing days, yes, we played both ways throughout the game. As a matter of fact, when you scored or were scored upon, you stayed on the field for the ensuing kickoff. To answer your question about the "titles" for coaches, there were no coordinators. Each coach was a position coach. Here is what I remember: Basically Joe was the quarterback coach and he worked with the offensive backfield. Jim O’Hora was the line coach, mainly working with the offensive and defensive tackles. J.T. White coached the offensive and defensive ends. Sever Toretta coached the linebackers, offensive guards, and the centers. Frank Patrick coached the defensive backs, punters, and kickers. When we played it was illegal to call plays from the sidelines. On offense the QB called all of the plays on offense, and a linebacker called all of the defenses and the variations. These people were groomed during the week as to what should be called based on the down and yardage and the balls position on the field. I do know that Joe was up in the press box during games and he would relay information down to the coaches and/or players on the sideline. We had one other coach, Earl Bruce, and he was the head coach of the freshmen team. At that time freshmen were inelligible to be on the varsity team. I hope this clarifies this matter for you.

by MsYvone on Jan 16, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry

for the interruption, but yes the same Earl Bruce, and Joe was the QB coach, among other duties.

by DerryPharmer on Jan 17, 2010 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

dude, you can learn how to use the reply buttons

I have faith in your old ass. Get on it!

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by jtothep on Jan 20, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you lactose intolerant or something? Don’t like milk? Lighten up on the dairy farmer! He’s just one of us simple too country folk.
-j/k, because I hate when replies don’t match up with the comment and suddenly there’s a random comment from left field

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by NJ lion on Jan 20, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

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