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Penn State Falls to 0-3 In The Big Ten


If there was nothing else to the story behind the headline, it wouldn't be so bad. But it's an odd feeling. An unknown sensation to Penn State fans. Losing basketball games is actually starting to hurt. Especially when you lose them like Penn State lost to Michigan last night.

The first half belonged to the Nittany Lions. The shots were falling, and Penn State raced out to a 15 point half time lead. At one point Penn State was even playing with Andrew Ott and three true freshmen on the court (Edwards, Frazier, and Sasa) and holding their own. It looked like they were going to just cruise to their first Big Ten win over a Michigan team that has really struggled all season. But the warning signs were there. They defense was not as good as it appeared. Michigan just wasn't hitting their shots and went 0-for-15 from the arc. But all that changed in the second half.

Penn State couldn't do anything right in the second half. They stood around and passed the ball out of bounds on offense. They committed dumb fouls and left shooters wide open on defense. And Michigan started making their shots. It was a total collapse that would have made John L. Smith proud.

On the bright side, Jeff Brooks looked pretty good in the first half. Then he turned into a turnover machine in the second half. Chris Babb looked pretty good. Then Ed sat him down for some reason and Frazier played most of the second half. Again, turnover machine. Andrew Jones was in foul trouble within the first three minutes of the game....AGAIN. And did David Jackson even play tonight? Like I said, when it's the Talor Battle show and nobody else steps up, we can lose to anyone. And tonight we did.

 

Star-divide

I kind of expected Penn State to blow a few games like this. They are a young team. Besides Talor Battle, there is no leadership. There are no clutch players you can go to when you need a bucket and the defense will not let Battle get the ball. Guys like Bill Edwards and Tim Frazier may get there some day, but they're not there yet.

What disappoints me is the total lack of intensity on defense. I can understand the lack of dependable scorers on this young team, but there is no excuse for the lack of hustle on defense. How do you let shooters get open time and time again after they continue to kill you? Why is Tim Frazier down under the basket to help against the dribble drive leaving a shooter all alone at the arc? Why can't our guys fight through screens? And when we step out to help on the screen, why does the ball handler still manage to drive the lane?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised our guys can't defend the pick and roll. It's not like they know how to execute one. Our screens are a joke. They don't slow down anyone. Ott can't even pick nacho crumbs out of his scraggly beard. Michigan was out there contesting every ball handler. They were sticking a hand in every passing lane. Our guys stand there on defense giving the point guard a full look at the court. Step out there and make them work a bit. Don't give me crap about saving Battle for the offensive end. What good is it if he scores 20 points and gives up 16?

This was about as demoralizing as demoralizing losses can get. And this came off the embarrassing showing where Wisconsin did anything they wanted to do for 40 solid minutes. And before that they came from behind to take a second half lead at Minnesota and blew that game. This team has dug themselves a deep hole. We'll find out if these youngsters have the guts to dig themselves out.

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The trasition D blows too

Me and my brother were talking about it during the 1st half. It looks like a pick up game at the IM building some times. Whatever shortcomings we have in the half court sets are compounded by the fact that teams can run on us whenever the hell they want, which is bad news, because we’re supposed to be a team that’s good a pushing the tempo.

Ugh

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Jan 8, 2010 6:14 AM EST reply actions  

These all sound like coaching problems...

running a pick and roll isn’t THAT hard, and it’s not like we don’t have any talent on the team. Intensity is something you need to carry over from practice, as well…

I’m indifferent towards DeChellis, but mainly because I know nothing about the guy. What frustrates me is I can’t even freakin’ tell what kind of offensive or defensive scheme’s he’s trying to run. Offense looks like they’re just kind of giving the ball to Battle and saying “please do something good” and on defense, they just run around sort of playing this half-assed sort-of-man, sort-of-zone thing.

Help please? What did he do at wherever he came from that made him successful enough to be targeted by a B10 program? (or was he not targeted, and he was the only one that came forward and said, “Sure, I’ll coach a school with little to no basketball tradition!”)

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by psuwxman on Jan 8, 2010 8:13 AM EST reply actions  

Well be fair

A player at this level should know when the help, not to help, and how to set a pick. That’s not coaching, that’s dumb play. Give this team time, I keep saying that. Lots of youth.

by STU Boy on Jan 8, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

DeChellis

He had a few successful years at some directional Tennessee State school. He used to either play or coach at PSU years ago. Hence the tie to the program.

by BSD on Jan 8, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't see last night's game

But from what I’ve seen and heard via the radio, there’s a certain lack of inspiration in this team, they seem to be mailing it in every game. Battle heats up invariably, but no no one else heats up with him, it’s like the rest of the team just wants Battle win the game for them.

Maybe you need a couple thousand fans instead of a few hundred in the stands to inspire the young players to give it their all, or maybe you need a signature win that would give the team an identity (winning the VT game would have helped)…

But a loss like this is a big step back, and for a team lacking fire and passion it’s probably going to turn into quite a slump before some one other then Battle emerges as a leader.

I miss Cornley.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Jan 8, 2010 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

I almos wish Battle would get "injured"

just to force this team to start making plays on their own and not expecting Battle to do everything. I of course don’t actually want him hurt, but just something to make this team something other than “Battle and 4 guys that wander around aimlessly”.

I didn’t see the game last night, just read the recap and comments, but from the other games I’ve seen this season it doesn’t come as much a surprise. I was expecting this team to take a step back this year, but was hoping it wouldn’t be as b ad as it is. Hopefully Buie still wants to play for this team, but I almost feel bad for him if he sticks to the commitment, if none of the other guys are even going to try to play.

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 8, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Buie already signed his LOI

So he’s stuck with PSU unless he wants to transfer and sit out a year? Not sure how that works

by psuquinn on Jan 8, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

He's not decommiting

His family moved here, they love PSU. He’s not going anywhere, don’t waste your time worrying.

by STU Boy on Jan 8, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct

He submitted his LOI. He’s going to PSU.

by BSD on Jan 8, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It's one thing to lose. It's another to lose painfully.

I’m tired of seeing losses due to some combination of poor free throw shooting, lazy transition defense, poor perimeter defense, poor interior defense, lazy rebounding, and awful offense. For Ed’s sake, I hope this is all due to youth.

"We've gotta execute! We've gotta have fun out there!" - Ed DeChellis

by ReadingRambler on Jan 8, 2010 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

It's another chicken and the egg thing

The players seem uninspired which you’d like to pump them up with fan support but fans don’t want to treck over to the BJC in the cold and snow to watch a bunch of uninspired players…

Unfortunately it starts with them, they have to care first for the fans to care at all. We saw what a measly NIT tourny bid did for our fans — we lit up and went nuts.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Jan 8, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course they can't dig themselves out.

The NIT is looking like a pipe dream at this point. I have to think that’s at least one step back on our progress scale.

How do you fix any of those problems at this point in the season?

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by OMEGAMAN on Jan 8, 2010 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

definitely a step back

and as others have pointed out, it isn’t the losing that hurts (we’re expected to lose a lot), it is how thoroughly bad we have looked in the losses, combined with showing no real improvement, and weak fundamentals.

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 8, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more Mega.....

Like the announcers were saying last night…..until someone besides Battle steps up to become a legitimate scoring threat…..PSU is doomed!

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?

by pic15 on Jan 8, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm surprised...

from what I watched last year, PSU, while not over flowing with talent, played hard. To hear they aren’t playing hard or with effort is disappointing.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 8, 2010 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

"We've gotta execute! We've gotta have fun out there!" - Ed DeChellis

by ReadingRambler on Jan 8, 2010 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Georgia Tech'd?

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Jan 8, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Ed says

we’ve gotta have fun out there ! WE ARE not having fun out here either ! This team is very disoriented, for lack of a better word…and oh yes, RR, the pie chart is delicious.

by DerryPharmer on Jan 8, 2010 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

The coaching blew last night....

No way the Lions should have blown that big of lead! The personnel mix along with the set plays in the second half sucked!

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?

by pic15 on Jan 8, 2010 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome to the basement of the Big XI, we have a seat for you right next to ours.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Jan 8, 2010 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

UNACCEPTABLE.

But seriously, that blown lead last night was utterly predictable. Saw it a hundred times before from PSU. Enough for me to tip my hat to the DeChellis haters. There’s too much standing around, too much confusion, and too many unforced mistakes. Nice to see Babb hit a few shots, though. We need him.

Andrew Jones is just lost. Totally and completely lost. He and Ott combined for ONE REBOUND last night. One.

Penn State essentially has one guy who can start on any team in the conference (Battle), a bunch of limited and thoroughly average role players (Babb, Jones, Brooks, DJ), and some freshmen (Edwards and Frazier) who have talent but really don’t know what the hell they’re doing yet.

The Jones/Brooks duo is mystifying — exactly what do either of them do very well? And poor Battle is being run into the ground because the team is hopeless if he’s not on the floor. He’s 18th nationally in %minutes played.

There isn’t one obvious win on the rest of the schedule, with the possible exception of Iowa at home. That’s it.

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by Run Up The Score on Jan 8, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed with everything you said

Expect from here on out to see lots more of Sasa, time to gear for next year and time to season these freshmen.

by STU Boy on Jan 8, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

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