Grading The Penn State Defense Against Illinois
Honestly, I don't even know if it's worth going through this exercise. The Penn State defense we saw Saturday was a decimated shell of the defense we expected to see this year. When you look around and see guys like Kevion Latham, DaQuan Jones, James Van Fleet, Mike Yancich, Malcolm Willis, and Jacob Fagnano out there running around you know things are bad. That's no knock on those guys, it's just that they played more on Saturday than they have in their entire careers. In all, Penn State was playing without ten players expected to be part of the two-deep depth chart in the preseason.
The injury losses are truly staggering. Jack Crawford sat out the game with an ankle injury he suffered in practice last week. There are unconfirmed reports that he may need surgery that will end his season. Bani Gbadyu sat out the game with a minor knee injury. Mike Mauti didn't play with an injured foot. Gerald Hodges is still fighting to come back from the leg injury he suffered against Alabama. During the game the Lions lost Nick Sukay, who reportedly tore his pectoral muscle. That will probably end his season. Eric Latimore appeared to have broken his wrist which may end his season. Hopefully if they're lucky he can play with a cast. Pete Massaro had to leave the game and didn't return. Then Andrew Dailey suffered a stinger on a viscious hit and didn't return.
On top of all of these injuries, Sean Stanley and Derrick Thomas sat out their second consecutive game for being knuckleheads violating team rules.
Given this level of unprecidented attrition, it's not surprising that the defense got pushed around like a WalMart shopping cart on a midnight Christmas sale when they're selling 42" plasma televisions for 50 bucks.
So is it really worth going through this exercise of handing out grades just so we can point out the second and third string players aren't ready to compete in the Big Ten? I don't think that's really fair to those guys.
To Tom Bradley's credit, he didn't want to blame the injuries for the poor performance, but there's no denying it played a major role. Losing so many players not only drops the overall level of physical talent, it also drops the experience level. As Bradley said after the game, this limits your ability to run different coverages and disguise things.
So we're going to take a week off from the grades this week. It's time for the bye week, and frankly it couldn't come at a better time. Hopefully, they can get some guys like Hodges, Massaro, Gbadyu, Mauti, Latimore, and Dailey back to health and on the field. The balance of the season may depend on it.
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Good lord, Sukay too?
"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 11, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions
He also missed Hill
who has been nursing an injured ankle and had to be helped off in the 3rd quarter.
We really need to get healthy, because the staple of Minnesota’s offense is “Run it up the middle with our 380 pound lineman [not really an exaggeration, wait until you see those guys]” and can we stop that for four quarters with all of the stuff Mike listed?
"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 11, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
It's like Angry Iowa Running Back Hating God has found a new adversary.
"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 11, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
The Angry Penn State Linebacker Hating God?
jesse., DO SOMETHING!
Fake Adam Weber after a 41-23 loss to Wisconsin made him 0-4 against the Badgers in his career: "I don't even want to play football anymore."
No longer using Yahoo! Sports for anything besides stat checking since 9/29/2010...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 11, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I've seen
We’ve decided not to put any linebackers on the field this year, it’s no small wonder we lost when we play 11 on 8 football.
Beat Off Week. We're getting 7.5 points.
Sounds exactly like 04 Penn State
only that wasn’t an entire offense that wasn’t being fielded. The Nittany Lions punted on first down and let the defense hold the entire game…
Fake Adam Weber after a 41-23 loss to Wisconsin made him 0-4 against the Badgers in his career: "I don't even want to play football anymore."
No longer using Yahoo! Sports for anything besides stat checking since 9/29/2010...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 11, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank God for the Phillies...
…or my fall might be worse. A friend of mine joked about PSU going to the Motor City Bowl after we lost to ‘Bama. Now that joke doesn’t seem so funny. =(
Great week for a bye.
"Red, it took me sixteen years to get here. You play me, and I'll give ya the best I got."
The ESPN "experts" have us in either the Jerry Jones Classic or the Whichever Bowl Plays A MAC Team Bowl.
I just want a bowl win so that the 8 month offseason can at least be bearable.
“Hey, at least we beat Northern Illinois on December 12th!”
@EpicTripod
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 11, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Does Maybin still have eligbility?
LaVar can play defensive end too?
"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 11, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
ROB BOLDEN GOES FOR A WALK WITH THE PENN STATE DEFENSE
Rob Bolden: “Hi, Drew Astorino, Mike Mauti, Nate Stupar, Ollie Ogbu, D’Anton Lynn, and Pete Massaro. Let’s go for a walk.”
Everyone says ok! They go for a walk.
Drew Astorino: “A snake just bit me.”
Mike Mauti: “A wizard put a curse on my knee!”
Nate Stupar: “Someone just changed my name to Subpar.”
Ollie Ogbu: “I guess I’m the only one left.”
D’Anton Lynn: “I’m running away with John Sacca!”
Pete Massaro: “They put a curse on my knee too. That’s unorginal!”
Rob Bolden: “This walk was a bad idea.”
"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 11, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I know it's a depressing and dreary post
but it seems a bit early on a Monday to start drinking.
Designated "New Thread Is Up" guy.
Blasphemy!
@EpicTripod
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 11, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I find it amusing that you think I need to drink to post crap like that.
"I do not have enough energy to scream, so I will sit here until this is over or until the middle of the 4th quarter when I will leave so I can miss traffic."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 11, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
With this year being
The mess that it is we just have to hope the young guys stepping in are getting and using the experience positively towards next year.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Oct 11, 2010 10:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Does anybody find it extremely ironic..
that this team is extremely talented (aside from OL), but has just been decimated by inexperience and injury?
On what basis do you think they are talented (outside of O line)?
Even before the injuries, they didn’t do anything noteworthy, even against bad teams.
really?
rob bolden, justin brown, derek moye, devon smith, Khairi Fortt, mike mauti, lynn, morris, silas redd…..I can keep going if you want.
all of those players have stepped up in some form this year. there’s just a total lack of team execution and an injury bug that’s killing cohesion.
by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 11, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Those are talented individuals, I agree
but that hasn’t translated into a talented product on the field.
Lots of talent at the skill positions
But if the O-line and D-line can’t do anything, it doesn’t matter how talented the rest of the guys are.
We are pulling a Notre Dame.
Without the funny fat guy
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
hey, I thought BWare was pretty funny
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 11, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Cheeseburger Charlie is offended
that you think anybody is as fat and funny as he.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Dailey
Was there a confirmation it was a stinger? Live, it looked for all the world like a concussion.
I'm no doctor, but it didn't look like a concussion to me.
You could see he was in some pretty intense pain, which from what I know, isn’t the case with concussions.
by VVeRPennState on Oct 11, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
doesn't meet your request for 'confirmation'
But I read it was a stinger as well, not sure if Mike and I read that at the same place and I don’t remember which source anymore.
That diagnosis makes sense to me. He was squirming in pain, and I thought I saw him reach to his face, I thought at the time it might have been a broken nose.
My team is on the field.
I did a little googling.
Only the Williamsport Sun-Gazette reported it as a concussion and I’m betting they are mistaken.
by gumbercules on Oct 11, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I had the binoculars on him and it definitely looked like a broken nose.
They were putting ice and dabbing blood, it appeared, at the bridge of his nose. It was an odd angle hit and could have easily jammed his neck too. He took the full brunt on the crown but at an odd angle that pushed the helmut down.
At what point will you just start posting kittens?
They are so darned cute.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
But they're only good in sandwiches.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
From what we've seen, the defense should be better if we can get these guys on the field:
D-line
Massarro
Still
Ogbu
ham sandwich
Mauti
Hodges
Fortt
Lynn
Morris
Astorino
a faster, thinner ham sandwich
If we can get that line up against the Gophers, we might be alright. If we can find some sort of upgrade to the ham sandwich or the faster, thinner ham sandwich, hey we might even have a chance at holding them to within 24.
The question is, who’s going to beat out the ham sandwiches?
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
Thinking "outside the deli" for a moment...
(you see what I did there?)
I’d like to add Stupar to the LB mix as the designated 4th LB. Maybe we can flex Hodges around to strong safety when he’s ready (Sukay’s position, if he’s indeed out for the year) and let Stupar play outside.
by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 11, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
The real trick is how to keep Colasanti off the field, and the only obvious way is for young talent behind him to be healthy. If Hodges can get back on the field, and he, Stupar and Fortt can keep the OLB positions strongly manned (signs are good so far), then when Mauti is healthy he can be looked at more seriously at the Mike. Alternatively, Glenn Carson coming on? Anyway, the Illini offensive gameplan on Saturday should have been an LBU wet dream. An instinctual, swift and suretackling LBU Mike should have had 18+ tackles and 10 passes defensed. It’s not fair to the kid (Colasanti), but what do you think a Lee/Connor/Puz statline would’ve been like against that kind of playcalling and a Dline suffering like ours was? He’s the biggest hole right in our biggest hole. But he’s a Penn Stater, and he’s only gonna get off the field if there are enough healthy players playing better, and that hasn’t been the case yet, like it has been for Bani.
As for your ham sandwiches, I’m guessing we’ll see more of true freshman Daquan Jones (even tho he looks more natural at tackle, he’s needed). Can he outplay journeyman Kevion Latham? And who knows what the rotation in for them will be.
I’m fine with Malcom Willis for your thinly sliced ham at Safety.
My team is on the field.
D-line.
I understand injuries, but you put on a Penn State uniform, and you need to be a little more physical than that. It’s Illinois.
Go State! Beat the bye week!
by Illegal Formation on Oct 11, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions

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