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If we are destined to struggle.....

with our offensive line for the remainder of the year, then I'm in favor of going the route of youth all the way. In other words, perhaps with the possible exception of Wiz, sit the juniors and seniors and start the freshmen and sophomores and then give them the bulk of the playing time. Let them gain the experience they will need down the road. If you look at our existing offensive line, there are three seniors (counting Eliades) and two juniors. Next year, we are going to be right back where we are now with our offensive line! Groom them to fit the position.

I'm almost inclined to do pretty much the same thing with the defensive ends. Other than Pete Massaro, I'm disappointed in the play of our defensive ends. Pre-season, I was pretty much drooling at the prospects of Crawford, Lattimore, Latham & Stanley and the fantasized pass rushes that quite frankly, never materialized. When watching the games, it is rare to hear any of their names mentioned. If they were totally green, I wouldn't have expected as much, but this is the third year of playing time for some of them. At the midpoint of the season, it is time for  the defensive ends to step up or sit down and watch some underclassman take their job.

Linebacker play has been a bit of a downer as well. I think, for the most part, and except for Gbadyu, Stupar and Colasanti, our linebackers just lack the experience to react to what they are seeing. Stupar is doing fine, but Gbadyu and Colasanti, who played pretty much last year, just don't seem to have that ball hawking instinct that PSU linebackers need to have. Fortt, Mauti, Hodges and any others just need playing time to gain experience,  Couple that with a bunch of injuries, and..... well you see what you get. I would keep rotating and coaching them up, concentrating again on the guys who are coming back.

And don't get me started on tackling, sheesh

The secondary has been doing pretty good, all things considered. When a safety is the third leading tackler on the team, that is not a good thing. The rest of the offense, I think is pretty decent (including Royster). If the O-line would do half of what is expected of them, I believe the offense would at least be respectable.

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The defensive line in general

has been disappointing. I don’t think the tackles have played all that well, either, although Ogbu has had his moments.

And so we land, only to find
We never left the ground...

by icavalera on Oct 11, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't worry...

…positions would be threatened and changes will be made.

What a bad time to be a PSU player on a bye week. Yikes.

Ya gotta be careful with throwing out all caution in regards to oline though. You can’t just plug in a body and say “go tackle the ball carrier” like on defense. (obviously, I’m way over simplifying the mental aspect of defense, but it IS easier to play as an underclassmen on defense or offensive skill position, especially front 7 on defense)

There is a huge mental aspect to offensive line play, if you send guys out there that really don’t know what they are doing, someone can get hurt. The scary part is, plays like the one in the second half where the d tackle was unblocked between center and right guard are still happening. Ya gotta think, the 5 best linemen are out there. Or at least, the 5 best prepared scheme wise are out there.

by hbeach08 on Oct 11, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: plays like the one in the second half where the d tackle was unblocked between center and right guard are still happening.

Prompted Jack Ham to mutter ‘Jesus’ live on air. ‘That was a three-man rush right there, you just can’t let that happen.’

My team is on the field.

by jtothep on Oct 11, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do believe the 5 best are out there.

I believe they have what they’ve determined to be their best players everywhere. But it’s just not even close to good enough as evidenced by the team’s play. That’s what’s so frightening about the program right now and especially about the o-line.

I posted this before (preseason), but the two toughest positions to learn* are qb and o-line and those are where PSU had/has a ton of inexperience. This is a big reason why things are the way they are right now.

  • I’m not going to pretend that I know a lot about football. I played, but am not a big X and O guy. But I’ve been told by high school, college, and pro coaches I know that o-line is second only to qb in how difficult it is to learn.

by J Breezy on Oct 11, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

that's why its not an easy fix

sometimes, you can make a qb change, or bring in a fresh young back, and sparks fly, but oline just isn’t like that

by hbeach08 on Oct 11, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

And I’ve also been told, by the same people, that receiver is one of the easiest positions to learn. That’s why you’ll often see freshmen make an impact there. But like you said, it doesn’t work that way with the o-line.

by J Breezy on Oct 11, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

What you see is what you get.

8 seniors on the team. For the most part, ALL OF THEM are doing a reasonable job.
48 Freshmen on the team. What’s the expectation when you replace ANYBODY with ANY OF THEM.
There is no where to turn,except…..

Every day, in every way, they need to get better and better.
Just Like Me!

For the Glory,
Joe from Boalsburg

Elizabeth, with Vin Scully, only folks working longer than JoePA at same place!

by joefromboalsburg on Oct 11, 2010 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

This team has the potential to be great.

Next year. This year, it will be a constant struggle to avoid more injuries, find the right O Line, run the ball, develop offensive schemes, etc. Hopefully, the coaching staff will look at it as they have raw talent that they can develop. I feel sorry for the Seniors on this team, but I just don’t see us doing anything great this year. I think that they might just pull it around and finish the season well, but I don’t feel confident of a New Years Bowl at all. I just hope they find some momentum by the end of the season to work off of and start the next season with some friggin’ fire in their bellies!

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" Vince Lombardi

by usn_kologi on Oct 12, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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