Looking Beyond Penn State's Win/Loss Record
by QBsneak12 on Oct 13, 2010 4:00 PM EDT
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PrintNormally, I would use the "everyone come off the ledge" joke here, but it's been done quite a few times already, so I'll let it be. Most of us tried to curb our expectations at the start of the season insisting we were going to lose three games (Alabama, Iowa, Ohio State) with the potential to lose one more (I assumed it would be Michigan) just for good measure. Well Penn State currently sits at 3-3 (0-2 in the Big Ten) and Ohio State still left on the schedule. So far, Illinois is the plus one, with some thinking it might be more like plus 3 or 4. As a fan base, we aren't surprised at the loses (they happen), but we are surprised by the way the loses are happening.
Losses are always difficult to deal with, even more so when they appear to be blow outs. To clarify, I know there are a few types of blow outs; big blow outs like Penn State's 2000 loss to Ohio State, 45-6 and smaller blow outs, this season's 24-3 loses to Alabama and Iowa. We are six games into the season and we already have three loses of over 20 points. You have to go back to the 2000 season to recall the last time this happened. During that year, Penn State lost by 24 (USC), 39 (Ohio State), and 22 (Michigan). Almost included in that number is the embarrassing 18 point home loss to Toledo, and i'm sure many of us remember that one. The 2000 season was the start of what many dubbed "the dark years." It just so happened that the on-field struggles coincided with the recruitting misses and failures that left the cupboard bare until 2005.
To show you what type of company the 2010 team currently keeps, check out this chart (hat tip to my father-in-law Pat McManus for not throwing out anything Penn State related and for providing me the data):
| Year | # of Losses | Lose Point Differential |
| 2000 | 7 | 115 |
| 2001 | 6 | 75 |
| 2003 | 9 | 102 |
| 2004 | 7 | 63 |
| 2010 | 3 | 62 |
So what does it all mean? Well this team is not as bad as the 2000, 2001, or 2003 teams. The 2010 team has more talent and depth than those teams did, they are just very short on experience.
As you can see, in 2004 (the year before Penn State experienced the Michael Robinson Renaissance) the team lost 7 games by a total of 63 points. Included in those loses were the infamous 6-4 game against Iowa, at 16-3 loss to Wisconsin, and the biggest loss of the season, a 14 point loss at Boston College. After only three loses this season, the 2010 loss differential is already at 62. Here is the point differential for the 2004 season loses:
- 14
- 13
- 9
- 7
- 2
- 11
- 7
And for 2010:
- 21
- 21
- 20
Penn State's offense was pretty bad in 2004. Hard to argue this when a team would prefer to take a safety and punt the ball back to you because they felt (correctly) that the offense wouldn't be able to move the ball enough to even get in field goal range. The biggest difference was that the 2004 team had a defense to keep them in the game and mask a lot of the offense's deficiencies.
That 2004 team was lead by a young Paul Posluszny and a very young prank phone caller named Dan Connor(other players of note: Tim Shaw, Tambi Hali, Matt Rice, Derek (Cameron) Wake, Alan Zematis, and Ed Johnson). 2010 is not led by one clear cut player. The hope was for Michael Mauti, Jack Crawford, Ollie Ogbu, or Bani Gbadyuto be that guy, but inconsistent play and injuries have destroyed that. Nick Sukay, the goat for many fans, was actually playing very well before his season ending injury. The lack of leadership on defense (and on offense) is one of the major issues hurting this team.
Opponents scored 168 points all season against the 2004 Nittany Lions. After six games in 2010, opposing teams have already scored 108 points (with Denard Robinson and Terrelle Pryor still left to play). The 2004 defense was able to do the things the now injury ravished 2010 defense can't seem to do: keep games against superior (or better in Illinois' case) teams competitive.
Under Joe Paterno, Penn State has not be accustomed to losing multiple games in a season by 20 or more points. One of the reasons Penn State runs the Cover 2 is to be fundamentally sound and not give up the big play, the bend but don't break defense. Unfortunately this season the Cover 2 is bent and broken.That argument is, however, for another day.
This season continues to get longer as the injuries pile up, but the experience for the younger players will be vital for 2011 and 2012. It's anyone's guess what the line up is going to look like against Minnesota, but I guarantee you there will be some changes on both sides of the ball.
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Personal attack.
Richard Aceto owns the internet today.
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Slow States - Lacking SEC speed since, like, a month ago.
by Run Up The Score on Oct 13, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
I just cant take it anymore...
I’ll be back when its the BSD I know and love in the comment department
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You don't know what you're missing.
I question your ability as a poster. Are health problems holding you back or plain selfish desire?
"But then again I’d second guess anything a clown like me says anyway."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 13, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That seems a bit immature
It’s almost like your baiting him so he will post his opinion on something and 20 posters can all ridicule him for it.
It's gotten so bad now that it became a running joke.
Best strategy seems to be to ignore it all.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
The best strategy is clearly to mock in the comments
Then ignore when he gets here. You can’t just ignore a good meme.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Oct 13, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That's an elite strategy, my friend.
"But then again I’d second guess anything a clown like me says anyway."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 13, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Best new meme since
I AM A DIEHARD REDSKINS FAN, CAPS, LEAFS, AND I LOVE WATCHING TENNIS. SO WHATS THE BIG DEAL
Hmmmm, whatever happened to Skin4ever . . . .
I'm totally going to betray my BSD-youth.
But who on earth is that?
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
WHAT?!
oh goodness… child, you need to read the following
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2010/2/3/1291439/is-it-time-for-ed-dechellis-to-go
Read the link in the post first then the comments in that link, then the comments on the second thread
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Is this the sort of thing that will hurt my eyes?
Or will it be a good reward for finishing my Austen essay?
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
It's basically required reading if you want to consider yourself a member of this website
so do it anyway
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By the way, if you ever want recommendations for English classes to take
I was an English major who just graduated in May
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Seriously?
I would really, really love recommendations.
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Oh, I am going to be so grateful to you in a few weeks.
Thank you in advance.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
You friended her and you haven't friended me?
I feel so hurt. I mean, who else sticks around to help you with your sermons on Saturday night? Although the fact that I’m usually drinking probably doesn’t help that much :o)
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Now I just feel so awful for begging for friends. LOL!
But I’m so glad to add y’all to my friends list.
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I don't know many people's real names
so the only FB friend I have from BSD is PSUWifey
I mostly use the Twitter now anyway
Whatever
sad panda
i have no BSD friends..then again, im a relative newbie
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I would friend you,
but you do have to know people’s names or email addresses first, and some people don’t want to share that on here.
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Nothing in your profile leads me to your facebook profile
add me instead www.facebook.com/adamshell
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the profile thing is a work in progress
mainly when i get bored at work
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i cant get into twitter. fb yes but twitte no
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont thni i am following many people. havent used it in months
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Austen too,
but she’s driving me up the wall right now.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Seriously.
There’s only so many papers you can write about social class before you just stop caring. And she doesn’t always lend herself to in-depth analysis.
But she’s fun when you have no papers to write.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
True. But she tends to use very similar themes in all her work,
so you can write on that, I guess.
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Or you can just submit the same paper over and over and change the names
… just like Jane Austen did with her books…
SLAMMED
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by AdamShell on Oct 13, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe this didn't get more love
I also feel like BSD needs a book club open thread or something
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Did we really?
I should’ve started posting earlier.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
We can meet every Wednesday at night
and argue about Jane Austen.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Technically I shouldn't be able to make any Wednesday.
I should be doing my reading, like a good English major. Obviously that isn’t working out tonight, though.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
I should be writing a book chapter.
But health care utilization is just not inspiring me tonight.
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hey now thats my busness u are talking about
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
rmemebr i work ofr the evil insurance comaonies
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
neither do i
after those blue cross blue shield commercials that they go door to door
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-Mike Ditka
When I first got to college I was disturbed by how good I got at BS'ng it.
Now I think it’s an awesome life skill.
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i have a philosophy degree u got nothing on me
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Like blow off essays?
BSD effectively distracted me from that thing I was supposed to write tonight.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
I'll repost this
and dare you to submit it:
http://rinkworks.com/bookaminute/b/austen.shtml
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Is that a challenge?
I could probably slip that in the essay and still get an A.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Not knowing your prof, I won't make you
but there are plenty of English profs who would appreciate it
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She would appreciate it.
And it’s a lowkey enough paper that I probably could- only a page and a half. It’s like a baby paper.
But she may appreciate it more if I just did my work.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Surprising, I know.
I’ll never understand why professors feel like they need “assignments” and “tests”. Can’t they just take my word that I’m learning? Classes would be so much better if we all operated on the honor system.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
there is actually some truth in that
only so long as the students actually care about learning.
I know I personally learn much better when I’m not pressured to memorize or learn some specific subset that I’m going to be tested on, but unfortunately if I want the grade that shows I did learn, then I have to suck it up and do that, at the cost of learning what I want to learn. LEARN LEARN LEARN LEARN! LEARN!!!
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 14, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
she really didn't have any life experiences to write about, being poor and you know, a woman
so you just get slightly different versions of her real life, or what I think she would have wished her real to have been
Whatever
Agree.
But although Pride and Prejudice, Emma, Sense and Sensibility and the other two have very similar characters, there are enough differences in plot to keep me entertained. I don’t know Mansfield Part, Northanger Abbey or Persuasion as well as the other three.
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I like them all
but there are always the common threads, not unlike any other author who wrote multiple books. Edith Wharton is the same and I like several of her books
Whatever
I am going to credit you all in my paper.
And confuse the crap out of my professor.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Jeanne Britton
She just got here from Syracuse. She’s really cool, a Romanticist. She always forgives me for dozing off a little in her class.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
That's nice
I always told my professors, “You can have me alert and listening while doing a crossword puzzle, or you can have me sleeping, which would you prefer?”
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My prof. tried to tell me that there are guys who like Austen.
I don’t believe her.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
if thats what it takes to impress girls
i think ive finally realized why im single
Ain't no one going broke in football. Greed is a great sin
-Mike Ditka
It wouldn't impress me as much as it would confuse me.
I mean, come on. It’s Jane Austen.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
so using
“id like to talk to you about northanger abbey” as a pickup line wouldnt work? haha
Ain't no one going broke in football. Greed is a great sin
-Mike Ditka
I'm an Americanist,
So I only respond to American Literature pick up lines. You might get a Brit Lit girl, though.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
hmm
i tried to avoid lit at all costs in college (an engineer tends to dislike english and stuff of that nature) so id probably be better off avoiding that…unless i have google available
Ain't no one going broke in football. Greed is a great sin
-Mike Ditka
There's nothing wrong with Googling for pick up lines.
Just make sure you don’t tell her that you Googled for pick up lines.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
I love the Brit stuff
I also love period piece movie/mini series
But my favorite American is Edith Wharton
Whatever
I've been trying to think of a good American Lit pick up line
but I decided to start recent and go backward… and I stopped at Dan Brown.
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oh God.
Lets not have the Dan Brown conversation.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Which three?
My roommate loves them all, but I’m really hesistant about him.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Angels and Demons, The Lost Symbol
and Digital Fortress, though someone wears a PSU shirt at the end of Deception Point…
If you’re only going to read one, read Digital Fortress or Angels and Demons (Angels and Demons is best, but it’s part of a series)
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the davinci code was great. never read digital fortress
u want to read a good book read. the winter of our discontent
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
really sad sad
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't like DaVinci Code,
I felt sacreligious just reading it. Angels and Demons wasn’t as bad. I liked Deception Point.
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You'd like Pandora's Curse by Jack Du Brul then
it’s got that whole ice thing working… and Phillip Mercer (his character) is a Penn Stater
it’s like… the third in a series
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If it features a Penn Stater protagonist
I almost feel obligated to read it.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
try shutter island
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never even heard of this book
But now I must read it, seeing as I got a geology degree from PSU…
It's Jack Du Brul's Phillip Mercer series
Vulcan’s Forge (1998)
Charon’s Landing (1999)
The Medusa Stone (2000)
Pandora’s Curse (2001)
River of Ruin (2002)
Deep Fire Rising (2003)
Havoc (2006)
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ists not that bad
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't actually have much free time for reading,
so we need to agree on a really good one. I hear a bazillion conflicting opinions on The Da Vinci Code. Every English major I know hates it.
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ewww
steinbeck damn it
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I LOATHE Steinbeck,
except for Of Mice and Men. I kept seeing the Bugs Bunny cartoons while I was reading that.
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loathe
how sad., u need to read east of eden
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Of Mice and Men is wonderful
and everything else of his sucks… YAY we agree on something
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BOOOOOOO
i am shocked and diosmayed at this
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
of mice and men
great book. blasphemy if you do not concur!
Ain't no one going broke in football. Greed is a great sin
-Mike Ditka
I used to hate it
read it again this year, LOVE it now. Maybe I need to give Steinbeck another chance.
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trye eats oif eden
think of cain and able
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh.
Steinbeck is okay. I read Of Mice And Men when I was about ten, and it depressed me a bit.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
it shoudl depress u.
i stills trnigky recomend winter of our discontent
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
True.
Although BMAN13 (I think) pulled a reference out of there once that I didn’t recognize at first. I was actually impressed that someone stumped me on Pride and Prejudice.
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playing an hour and 5 minute set of just John Prine and Jim Croce, with one Jonathan Edwards song ended up with me still married 26 years later.
no
but love that song. Couldn’t pull off the island guitar sound.
I just stepped down from the airplane
When I heard her say.
"Wacka Wacka, nuka, licka
Wacka Wacka nuka licka
Would you like a Lay
my friend's used to do it
they did a lot of Buffett parodies but kept true to John Prine
Some of their parodies are really, really filthy
Whatever
I have played "Why don't we get drunk"
and I have changed a word or two in a song in the third set…..
They'll come find you man!!!
It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife.
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I was an English major
I read the first chapter of Pride and Prejudice and the last chapter for, ironically, a literature of Asia class (the point of the lessons was how story arcs are common throughout all of literature). Anyway, that line is the only thing I enjoy about Austen. Charlotte Bronte is better, but don’t tell my friend Alex I said that or she might actually make me read a whole book of hers.
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What?
Having read neither seriously, you have it on full authority that you’re crazy
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I'm willing to admit that I'm crazy,
only because I spent the entire day beating my head against the wall arguing with RA. I definitely fit the description of insanity today.
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you and me both
him and the two 3 letter 3 number fellas. there were many face palm moments
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nah, they all appear on other boards
RA shows up on the basketball board and I’m sure buk is a regular at FOS. brd sounds like he is from there too. They have been hung up on “elite” for years. Just seems like a waste of time to argue an arbitrary term.
i just read it in a book one time
Ain't no one going broke in football. Greed is a great sin
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no, no, no
movies are much better
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by jman07 on Oct 13, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Austen has better minor characters than Bronte does.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
The noise in the attic in Jane Eyre
is a better minor character than any of Austen’s. Not what was causing the noise… the noise itself.
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Oh
I student taught and my mentor teacher was teaching his AP kids both P and P and Jane Eyre so I listened to discussions on both of them.
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Hey, I said I didn't read either seriously
since when did you need to be informed to have an opinion?
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buahaha.
Oh God, I need to reread that book. I remember killing it in a week and not being too impressed.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
I really have to be in the mood for Austen's romanticism.
I just really appreciate how clear she is. After chewing through the likes of Henry James, I can really appreciate Pride and Prejudice.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
She's my twice yearly pick-me-up.
I just added you on FBook (at least I think it’s you). Beautiful name! Sounds like a future author.
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Thank you!
Needless to say, it’s Spanish. I hope it’s pretty enough to end up on a book cover one day. I think publishing a book would be a dream come true for me.
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I used to have that dream for fiction,
now it’s going to be on a textbook if I get my 3 chapters finished by Friday. Also, I have a book in the Pattee or Paterno library, so that’s an accomplishment I never thought I would have.
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Which book do you have in the library?
I want to go see it!
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Complement and Substitute Effects
of Prescription Drug Insurance on Medicare Covered Services.
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I will read it and pretend I understand everything.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Yep. Never used it, never was meant to.
But if I wanted my degree to have my full name on it, I had to put it on the dissertation. All my journal pubs have my first initial and middle name.
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I don't always use mine either.
People will just straight skip it only use the second half of it.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
I've never been called by my first name,
it’s sort of a Southern thing, I guess, to go by your middle name. In fact, my first name was Ashley for the first 3 days of my life, then my grandmother didn’t like it, so my mom changed it. I’m totally
Gonewiththewind/d
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Love that book.
Even if Scarlett drove me crazy. I actually share my name with my grandmother, so some family members just find it easier not to call me by my first name. And half my professors just have no idea how to approach it. I almost feel bad for them when they try to call attendance.
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haha
i just ofund out my one prf submitted my one paper as a reource for kids., I almsot fell over laughing
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
no ouch
realk exciting stuff John Mitchell and the antracite coal strike of 1902.
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by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you please give it a title like Moll Flanders full title?
The Fortunes and Misfortunes of Moll Flanders Who Was Born In Newgate, and During a Life of Continu’d Variety For Threescore Years, Besides Her Childhood, Was Twelve Year a Whore, Five Times a Wife [Whereof Once To Her Own Brother], Twelve Year a Thief, Eight Year a Transported Felon In Virginia, At Last Grew Rich, Liv’d Honest, and Died a Penitent
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My title will be longer.
Damned if I let Defoe beat me.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
For extra fun
I’ll put an unnecessary “De” in front of my last name, too.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Dammit!!
How did I miss the literature discussion on BSD? Man.
by BurrowesBldg on Oct 13, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
if i could only find that fortune
i know i put it somewhere…..
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Man,
good use of nerdy literature reference.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
i did, well played good sir
alas, i dont think many people would enjoy the pythagorean theorem or hookes law
Ain't no one going broke in football. Greed is a great sin
-Mike Ditka
Give it a shot
worst thing that could happen is that some random people on the internet make fun of you.
I mean, as long as you don’t start professing your love for Disney starlets, you’ll be fine!
Designated "New Thread Is Up" guy.
Fugi could probably get loads of girls
they’ll just be 12
/Sorry Fugi, I’ll go back to not giving you crap about it now
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i had a friend in college
who was obsessed with hillary duff. this was in like 2004. we harassed him good..but were also scared
Ain't no one going broke in football. Greed is a great sin
-Mike Ditka
oh man
im not sure if i could live with the shame if people from the interwebs picked on me…does that count as cyber bullying?
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Ew, science!
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
personal attack!
i didnt say ew lit did i!? hmmmm!? ok its gettin late, now im just being silly
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by jman07 on Oct 13, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was a personal attack on science.
In my defense, science is yucky.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Personal attack will win the next BSD meme competition
you heard it here first
John has a long moustache
I would say they are both elite memes
unfortunately I don’t know the definition of elite
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 14, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
•The Elite is a team of super-powered anti-heroes appearing in stories published by DC Comics. I believe their leader is Richard Aceto
by BMAN13 on Oct 14, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What can I say, I'm a girl of many interests.
Actually, I just always feel like I’m in a state of inertia.
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a body in motion
willl stay in motion unless acted upon by an equal and opposite force
Ain't no one going broke in football. Greed is a great sin
-Mike Ditka
as you get older
the object at rest tends to remain at rest, at least when there is stuff to do around the house.
unless there is a beer to get from the fridge
Ain't no one going broke in football. Greed is a great sin
-Mike Ditka
I make my cousins fetch me things all the time.
Drives my mom crazy, but if I have to take care of them then the least they could do is be useful.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
He's making the rest of the internet look downright mediocre.
"But then again I’d second guess anything a clown like me says anyway."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 13, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
But seriously
I have a lot of feathers in my cap, but I’ve never totally derailed a thread and taken it to 500 comments like Richard and Skins4ever. That’s a rare breed, man.
"But then again I’d second guess anything a clown like me says anyway."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 13, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
They're elite?
I bet you could if you tried. But you go for quality, not quantity.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
rambler just cant get it done when against his peers
Ain't no one going broke in football. Greed is a great sin
-Mike Ditka
Really good read.
Considering how much of this team is made up of younger players, it’ll be interesting to see how this experience effects them all. It looks like nothing is going for us this season, which is depressing, but only in the darkest nights can you see the stars (a virtual dollar for whoever knows where I stole that quote.)
Anyway, everyone’s too busy on the other thread to give you proper recognition, so I’ll have to suffice. Good work, homie.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
What about avg loss pt per game?
If you want to compare the number of losses and the loss point differential, then why not look at the average loss point differential:
2000: 16.4
2001: 12.5
2003: 11.3
2004: 9.0
2010 20.6 (incomplete)
we also have to acknowledge that the season isn’t over. If one considers three more similar losses and extrapolates, it would mean 6 losses accounting for a total of 124 point loss differential. That would suggest this years team IS worse than any of the aforementioned teams. It would be interesting to see the point loss differential going back further, say to 1990 or 1980
It's hard to judge from any one angle.
We’d probably need to go over several different factors of the losses, in a giant mass of numbers and bad memories.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
You're right
No way to say from these first six games that this 2010 team is better than the aforementioned teams. That was a bad analysis, but I appreciate seeing the numbers. They make me feel worse than I already did.
It shouldn’t be hard to go through CFBdatawarehouse.com and compile a list. They give you every game by season and the scores going back 100 years.
If I had to guess, and this is only a guess, this year (assuming we hold to our average) will blow every other year out of the water dating back to pre-Paterno. We usually play better defense than this. And we don’t usually face such good teams when we have a bad defense. It’s just a pefect storm of agony.
I have a feeling watching bolden throw for 3000 yards next season will help us get over it.
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
I agree
Usually catastrophes like last weekend require failures on multiple levels, and the injuries on defense were the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Next season will be better, but with another rebuilding project with the o-line, I suspect the results against Alabama, Iowa, OSU may be all too familiar. Improved o-line play would do wonders to solve Penn State’s running game and redzone issues and make Bolden even more effective. Just like in chess, those pawns are often overlooked, but they make a significant contribution.
Hopefully some good will come out of this. If we had lost to Illinois by 3 points it’s possible that more drastic changes wouldn’t be considered or made.
by Manxome-Lion on Oct 13, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
+1.
I’m starting to feel less and less sure about next year being some magical run. Our schedule is going to be just as hard talent wise.
Another rebuilding year for an o-line that is already struggling? How are we going to do better against Bama, Iowa, and OSU again? Something tells me we could save the recaps from this year, and just repost them next year and change a few names. I hope that’s not the case, I really do.
But every day, I’m seeing a scenario where Joe leaves after a 9-3 or worse season, and doesn’t get some last shot at the championship. That really isn’t the way to send out a legend, but he’s really writing his own book with every additional year he decides to stay.
Computers rank me number 1, blame the BCS...it's their fault.-Joe Budden
He could have left
After ’05 and it would have been epic.
Could have said everyone wanted me to leave but I wanted to show one last time I have what it takes. We just smacked people around….but I guess that’s not good enough c-ya guys
Yeah, but then we probably would not have had '08.
And, outside of that one night I choose to repress, I liked ’08.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
'08 was a bad year
I pretend to ignore it. That season was the only good thing that happened those 365 days…even the Iowa loss wasn’t that bad all things considered.
Up until Iowa
’08 was pretty cool with me. Iowa happened, and everything sucked from there.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
'08
2005 for everyone myself included was like “wtf, are we really this good?” It was such a surprise.
2008 for me at least, I saw it coming. I looked at the lines, the RB, the WR’s, the QB (I was always a Clark fan ever since ND 2006), and I thought “yeah, we’re going to be really good this year”
There’s something extremely exciting about knowing you’re going to be good building up to the season and then it turns out, we’re even better than I thought. That’s why I love 2008’s season despite the two losses.
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
Personal atta...
Aw, nevermind.
"But then again I’d second guess anything a clown like me says anyway."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 13, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
good for you
There will be no battle fatigue in my command
by psu in the w-b on Oct 13, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see an expanded "looking beyond Penn State's W/L record" post
about the quality of of W’s and L’s with regard to the teams we played.
Isn't that more useful in 6 weeks or so?
Not just with the remainder of our performances, but also our opponents. Temple, Illinois (both could prove to be very good), Alabama, Iowa (both could turn out to be worse than we thought) all have a lot of questions still.
'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno
by PSUinBOSSton on Oct 13, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Did Conrad build the desk? Was there a space for an alarm clock at least?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 13, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the funniest episodes
You know most of you (OK, I have too) have thought about doing this.
"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"
I just opened an open thread since we've completely hijacked QBSneak's thread.
If anyone is interested, it’s here.
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